I ask because I don't think its much better than sticking Tom Carney in our holding mid spot. Difference would be I'd expect TC to win at least half his balls in the air.
Great passer of the ball and very composed with little pressure...
Unfortunately... I think more and more teams are going to attack his spot on the pitch.
Ill be happy to be incorrect.
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To be honest, I don't know why we aren't playing him further forward, especially with Carvalho injured. I get Silva is using him to dictate our play, but if he's higher he can still do that
Seri has been great this season - no complaints from me.
our best player today for me.
He's been cracking, I can't see a single problem with the guy.
More than happy with his performances this season
I wasn't disappointed by his performance, but I don't understand the love-in for him recently either. He's done OK for me but not outstanding either defensively or in an attacking sense.
The majority of time he just receives and passes without doing a whole lot of work. Occasionally sends in a nice through ball but I don't see him as a defensive midfielder the way he plays. Agree with the post suggesting they would like to see him more advanced.
Seri - great game today
Slightly overwhelmed in defensive midfield by poor performances by Chalobah and Josh
Quote from: Baszab on September 25, 2021, 08:43:38 PM
Seri - great game today
Slightly overwhelmed in defensive midfield by poor performances by Chalobah and Josh
Exactly
No I think you do have a point. It's not because he's particularly bad defensively but Marco commits a lot of players forward so more often than not if we are countered against Seri is on his own.
He's not a big lad and not a ball winner so he's not going to cause too many issues for players in that respect.
But he's not being played for his ability to defend in fairness. It's his ability to connect play from deep positions.
He usually has a minder alongside him, either Reed or Onomah but I agree that I would like to see him as the advanced player in the midfield triangle with Onamah and Red in the defensive positions behind him.
really can't understand why peeps are moaning about Seri, thought he was good again
Quote from: Thamesbank on September 25, 2021, 10:19:30 PM
really can't understand why peeps are moaning about Seri, thought he was good again
Don't think anyone is saying he had a bad game.
He's good at what he does, but the way we play at the moment is exposing some of the weaker elements of his game. I don't think there will be too many keen to compare him to a Kante/Makelele/Etuhu type holding midfielder.
Lively vision today, brilliant as ever this season
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on September 25, 2021, 05:54:40 PM
I ask because I don't think its much better than sticking Tom Carney in our holding mid spot. Difference would be I'd expect TC to win at least half his balls in the air.
Great passer of the ball and very composed with little pressure...
Unfortunately... I think more and more teams are going to attack his spot on the pitch.
When we have the ball Serí is the best #6 in the Championship, but defensively he is a little weak. Seri can be a part of this squad, but we need to balance the starting XI around him. I particularly think we need to rethink if we play Seri can we really afford to play Ream in the same team.
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on September 25, 2021, 05:54:40 PM
I ask because I don't think its much better than sticking Tom Carney in our holding mid spot. Difference would be I'd expect TC to win at least half his balls in the air.
Great passer of the ball and very composed with little pressure...
Unfortunately... I think more and more teams are going to attack his spot on the pitch.
Ill be happy to be incorrect.
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Danny Murphy never did enough defensively in the center of the midfield either...
Guys who pass like Seri and are a rock defensively in the midfield cost about 100 million to purchase. What are there, like one or two of them in the world? The club are creating a ton of chances with Seri lying deep as a playmaker. His ability or inability defensively has had little impact on the results thus far.
Quote from: Caedal on September 25, 2021, 05:59:56 PM
To be honest, I don't know why we aren't playing him further forward, especially with Carvalho injured. I get Silva is using him to dictate our play, but if he's higher he can still do that
Exactly, he should be further forward, which he's done in a couple of games.
That is fine if Reed is playing in that defensive midfield spot,
I think Seri would be an ideal number 8 or 10 whatever it's called now :0)
Seri needs more cover and we seem a little weak on corners; maybe 3-3-3-1 and add some height to the team is the solution.
Mitro
Kebano Carv Wilson
Robinson Seri Christie
Tosin Mawson Hector
Gazza
Reid could play at #10 if Carvalho injured
Reid could play instead of Christie for extra attack
Bryan could play instead of Kebano for extra defense
Quote from: The Rational Fan on September 26, 2021, 12:11:27 PM
Seri needs more cover and we seem a little weak on corners; maybe 3-3-3-1 and add some height to the team is the solution.
Mitro
Kebano Carv Wilson
Robinson Seri Christie
Tosin Mawson Hector
Gazza
Reid could play at #10 if Carvalho injured
Reid could play instead of Christie for extra attack
Bryan could play instead of Kebano for extra defense
I agree we need more height.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on September 27, 2021, 01:47:30 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on September 26, 2021, 12:11:27 PM
Seri needs more cover and we seem a little weak on corners; maybe 3-3-3-1 and add some height to the team is the solution.
Mitro
Kebano Carv Wilson
Robinson Seri Christie
Tosin Mawson Hector
Gazza
Reid could play at #10 if Carvalho injured
Reid could play instead of Christie for extra attack
Bryan could play instead of Kebano for extra defense
I agree we need more height.
Fulham having too many short players means putting the ball out for a corner is risky for us, as defending corners is a weakness.
When hit on the counter attack or any attack, putting a ball out for a corner is often the easiest defensive move and if we cannot use it we are in danger. Players shorter than Joe Bryan include Seri, Francois, Knockart, Wilson, Carvalho, Quina, Kebano and Reid normally making up four players on the field at any particular time.
And, not having enough tall players means putting the ball out for a corner is a good defensive tactic for them. I would only consider Gazza, Tosin and Mitro as tall, the next tallest starter is Ream who is often out jumped.
Nothing to worry about here, Reed will shortly be reinstated as the first choice CM beside Seri and that will make the "problem" go away.
I think Reed, Kebano, Bryan will start ahead of Chalobah, Onamah and Robinson on Wed.
Seri needs to move the ball quicker, at times it does get moved on quickly enough for me. More 'dynamism', at times it's like 'treacle', just too slow.
Quote from: rebel on September 27, 2021, 09:49:31 AM
Seri needs to move the ball quicker, at times it does get moved on quickly enough for me. More 'dynamism', at times it's like 'treacle', just too slow.
Interesting, because I feel that Seri as opposed to some of our other midfielders (especially, but not only, Onomah) most often releases the ball quickly when he should do so and keeps it when appropriate. I think his passing is above most you ever will see at this level both in timing and in accuracy. The only one on the same level in our team is TC. In my opinion.
He's been our best player this season IMO
Seri and Mitrovic have weaknesses that if they play the rest of the team needs to cover, but they are both good enough to build a team around. We need to decide to build a team around them.
This means we need some extra height when Seri plays, some extra pace to compensate for both of them and maybe a new formation that supports them.