I didn't go to the game.........
Hopefully the last time people ask for Onomah to start
Quote from: Deeping_white on October 02, 2021, 02:22:52 PM
Hopefully the last time people ask for Onomah to start
With luck it will be the last time we see him in a Fulham shirt. He was the catalyst for our poor loss.
Positively rubbish.
Tim Ream discovered that when it rains he needs long studs in his boots .... Bambi on ice ...😡
And no red card for Mitro, we need him for QPR.
Mawson. The fact he's back, looks fitter than ever whilst not losing power, can still pass a ball and I don't think other than a few misplaced passes, did anything wrong today?
I know people will say Reed because he ran around a lot, but he was mediocre first half and just looked ok because he worked hard second.
Quote from: Southcoastffc on October 02, 2021, 02:24:11 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on October 02, 2021, 02:22:52 PM
Hopefully the last time people ask for Onomah to start
With luck it will be the last time we see him in a Fulham shirt. He was the catalyst for our poor loss.
I think if I was ream there may be a few words or two in the dressing room
Quote from: Worcesterwhite on October 02, 2021, 02:27:27 PM
Quote from: Southcoastffc on October 02, 2021, 02:24:11 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on October 02, 2021, 02:22:52 PM
Hopefully the last time people ask for Onomah to start
With luck it will be the last time we see him in a Fulham shirt. He was the catalyst for our poor loss.
I think if I was ream there may be a few words or two in the dressing room
The camera panned to him after it went in and he looked like he wanted to murder Onomah, which to be fair I would too if I were him
Positives??
Gazzaniga, Onomah, DCR all below the required standard. Ream, Mawson, Robinson, Kebano all having poor games. Wilson largely anonymous. That doesn't leave many!
Maybe the international break has come at a fortuitous moment.
The international break came at a good time.
Quote from: FFC1987 on October 02, 2021, 02:27:22 PM
Mawson. The fact he's back, looks fitter than ever whilst not losing power, can still pass a ball and I don't think other than a few misplaced passes, did anything wrong today?
I know people will say Reed because he ran around a lot, but he was mediocre first half and just looked ok because he worked hard second.
Baffled as to why you keep insisting he had a good game. He looked horribly out of position on the right and was wrong footed multiple times. Being the best defender in a defense which conceded four goals does not make a good performance. If he plays, it needs to be instead of Ream and alongside Tosin.
Coventry over the whole game were quicker to the tackle, stronger on the ball but were aided by 2 game changing goals. The 1st was down to the Gazza, Ream, Onomah cock up & the non penalty for the 2nd.
We looked lethargic, leggy lacking in MF penetration or creativity. Onomah was dreadful. No pace, vision or drive. Kebano & Wilson gave nothing for Mitro . BDR needs dropping for a while . Cav needs his contract cancelling. Our CB partnership has to be Tosin & Mawson. They need games together to create a bond.
Reed is the only player who can hold their head high after today.
Quote from: Pluto on October 02, 2021, 02:36:56 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on October 02, 2021, 02:27:22 PM
Mawson. The fact he's back, looks fitter than ever whilst not losing power, can still pass a ball and I don't think other than a few misplaced passes, did anything wrong today?
I know people will say Reed because he ran around a lot, but he was mediocre first half and just looked ok because he worked hard second.
Baffled as to why you keep insisting he had a good game. He looked horribly out of position on the right and was wrong footed multiple times. Being the best defender in a defense which conceded four goals does not make a good performance. If he plays, it needs to be instead of Ream and alongside Tosin.
Even the time he was turned, he got it right positionally and sent his man wide.
I'm just as baffled at you suggesting Reed can hold his head high as an integral part of protecting the back 4 in a side that conceded 4 goals. Yeh he worked hard. I like that. But the quality was missing particularly in the first half. He turned into trouble too many times for me today.
Also, maybe your hang up is in thinking I said Mawson had a good game. I'm not saying that. I'm suggesting it's a positive thing that he looks fit, didn't go off injured and didn't really do much wrong today. Compared to say Ream who was tragic. He was one the betters of an awful bunch, but it's good to see him back, fitter and hopefully he can progress further.
We only lost 4-1!!!!!
One positive for me and that is that is Siva will have seen what an imposter Robinson is......a league one player at best.
There's an international break.
Quote from: Luka on October 02, 2021, 02:49:16 PM
One positive for me and that is that is Siva will have seen what an imposter Robinson is......a league one player at best.
Yeah, alright... this might be the most insanely idiotic comment i've read in recent memory. He plays for the U.S. Men's National Team and won the Nation's Cup this year with his home nation and plays well for us generally. I don't see any League One players at the international level. Check yourself. He's a good Champ player, not the best or great, but he's fine for this league.
Quote from: FFC1987 on October 02, 2021, 02:27:22 PM
Mawson. The fact he's back, looks fitter than ever whilst not losing power, can still pass a ball and I don't think other than a few misplaced passes, did anything wrong today?
.
Are you serious? He was abysmal
Quote from: grandad on October 02, 2021, 02:38:25 PM
Coventry over the whole game were quicker to the tackle, stronger on the ball but were aided by 2 game changing goals. The 1st was down to the Gazza, Ream, Onomah cock up & the non penalty for the 2nd.
We looked lethargic, leggy lacking in MF penetration or creativity. Onomah was dreadful. No pace, vision or drive. Kebano & Wilson gave nothing for Mitro . BDR needs dropping for a while . Cav needs his contract cancelling. Our CB partnership has to be Tosin & Mawson. They need games together to create a bond.
Tend to agree but think you are understating our plight and have let Robinson of the hook.
Quote from: grandad on October 02, 2021, 02:38:25 PM
Coventry over the whole game were quicker to the tackle, stronger on the ball but were aided by 2 game changing goals. The 1st was down to the Gazza, Ream, Onomah cock up & the non penalty for the 2nd.
We looked lethargic, leggy lacking in MF penetration or creativity. Onomah was dreadful. No pace, vision or drive. Kebano & Wilson gave nothing for Mitro . BDR needs dropping for a while . Cav needs his contract cancelling. Our CB partnership has to be Tosin & Mawson. They need games together to create a bond.
I just thinks BDR needs to be placed back out on the left wing. He is the club's best starting option out there. Putting him at the #10 with Fabio out hurts 2 attacking positions.
Not sure why, but he and Mitro just don't partner well in a 9 and 10 combination.
Quote from: ChesterTheTabby on October 02, 2021, 02:53:08 PM
Quote from: Luka on October 02, 2021, 02:49:16 PM
One positive for me and that is that is Siva will have seen what an imposter Robinson is......a league one player at best.
Yeah, alright... this might be the most insanely idiotic comment i've read in recent memory. He plays for the U.S. Men's National Team and won the Nation's Cup this year with his home nation and plays well for us generally. I don't see any League One players at the international level. Check yourself. He's a good Champ player, not the best or great, but he's fine for this league.
Suggest you check yourself ....."Not the best or great but fine for this league" ..... in my book.means bang average.
The fact that I gave up, like the Fulham team, and decided to take the dog for a walk when their third goal went in!
Quote from: Black and White Town on October 02, 2021, 02:55:46 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on October 02, 2021, 02:27:22 PM
Mawson. The fact he's back, looks fitter than ever whilst not losing power, can still pass a ball and I don't think other than a few misplaced passes, did anything wrong today?
Are you serious? He was abysmal
Yep I thought he was poor too
Quote from: Fulham 442 on October 02, 2021, 03:38:25 PM
The fact that I gave up, like the Fulham team, and decided to take the dog for a walk when their third goal went in!
I hope the rain had stopped!
Quote from: SP on October 02, 2021, 03:39:36 PM
Quote from: Fulham 442 on October 02, 2021, 03:38:25 PM
The fact that I gave up, like the Fulham team, and decided to take the dog for a walk when their third goal went in!
I hope the rain had stopped!
I'm in Spain!
I think Antonee Robinson, probably, broke theworld record for the longest period of head shaking and muttering under his breath.
Quote from: FFC1987 on October 02, 2021, 02:27:22 PM
Mawson. The fact he's back, looks fitter than ever whilst not losing power, can still pass a ball and I don't think other than a few misplaced passes, did anything wrong today?
I know people will say Reed because he ran around a lot, but he was mediocre first half and just looked ok because he worked hard second.
I think Reed had to do a lot of running and covering for Onomah, who is pedestrian at best. He looked a different player once Seri came on. Too late by then...
The only positive IMO - Onomah was subbed.
The fact we are still in the top 6 despite todays shower of crap.
Biggest positive. After some dross results and today's performance, being still 2 to 3 points off the top is a massive result....
I missed the game so don't have an opinion, but the range of views about players on this thread speaks volumes. Contributors seem to be thrashing about looking for scapegoats - let's hope Silva is able to make more sense of the performance and make the necessary repairs.
Scrap that. It's now 5 points, we're 5th and we're behind Stoke and Coventry. Tragic.
As for Mawson, I'll try and watch the highlights again but I did t think he was the issue in our back 4 out of the back 4. Ream was leggy and a liability all game.
Were there any positives at all? The only ones I can think of is that hopefully Tete and Carvalho will have recovered in time for our next games. Our current form is erratic to say the least. Eleven games in and we have already lost three. That's not promotion form - we'd be lucky to get into the playoffs. Hopefully Muniz can find some form, because if we lose Mitro for a game or two we could be the brown stuff
Positives ? let me have a think about it.
Well we are still in touch with the leading pack.
Glad Mawson got 90 mins, would like to see him next to Tosin.
Reed showed why he is a key player, and the fact that we currently cannot afford to start a match without Seri like we did today.
Most of the others apart from Mitro, Odio and Kebano will want to forget today in a very big hurry.
Quote from: Southcoastffc on October 02, 2021, 02:24:11 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on October 02, 2021, 02:22:52 PM
Hopefully the last time people ask for Onomah to start
With luck it will be the last time we see him in a Fulham shirt. He was the catalyst for our poor loss.
Bit OTT he's had some good games this season, the whole team crap today
Quote from: Deeping_white on October 02, 2021, 02:28:35 PM
Quote from: Worcesterwhite on October 02, 2021, 02:27:27 PM
Quote from: Southcoastffc on October 02, 2021, 02:24:11 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on October 02, 2021, 02:22:52 PM
Hopefully the last time people ask for Onomah to start
With luck it will be the last time we see him in a Fulham shirt. He was the catalyst for our poor loss.
I think if I was ream there may be a few words or two in the dressing room
The camera panned to him after it went in and he looked like he wanted to murder Onomah, which to be fair I would too if I were him
If I was Ream the only person I would be having worth with was myself. He had a shocking game.
Tosin might not be dropped. Ream had an absolute mare. Mawson was ok, but the defence was laughable.
Quote from: ChesterTheTabby on October 02, 2021, 02:53:08 PM
Quote from: Luka on October 02, 2021, 02:49:16 PM
One positive for me and that is that is Siva will have seen what an imposter Robinson is......a league one player at best.
Yeah, alright... this might be the most insanely idiotic comment i've read in recent memory. He plays for the U.S. Men's National Team and won the Nation's Cup this year with his home nation and plays well for us generally. I don't see any League One players at the international level. Check yourself. He's a good Champ player, not the best or great, but he's fine for this league.
This the Robinson who nearly signed AC Milan Once?
Hopefully being dropped has given Tosin the kick up the arse he has needed. He's been steadily declining since the start of the season.
Quote from: Thames badger on October 02, 2021, 05:54:01 PM
Quote from: ChesterTheTabby on October 02, 2021, 02:53:08 PM
Quote from: Luka on October 02, 2021, 02:49:16 PM
One positive for me and that is that is Siva will have seen what an imposter Robinson is......a league one player at best.
Yeah, alright... this might be the most insanely idiotic comment i've read in recent memory. He plays for the U.S. Men's National Team and won the Nation's Cup this year with his home nation and plays well for us generally. I don't see any League One players at the international level. Check yourself. He's a good Champ player, not the best or great, but he's fine for this league.
This the Robinson who nearly signed AC Milan Once?
Nearly lol........but they didn't sign him did they, thus dodging an expensive bullet.
Name one thing he did today that deserves a positive comment?
TOSIN Didn't he win MOM earlier in season. Still better than ream
The only plus I encountered today was there was no queues at several petrol station and I seized the opportunity to fill up on the way home .
The only positive I can see from today is that surely Gazzaniga can never play for us again. Our worst goalkeeper since the laughable Lastuvka. The very first building block in any defence is the back four having confidence in the bloke behind them and clearly none of them have a shred of confidence in him. I watched him at close quarters today shouting at them after every ricket he dropped in the second half and not one of them ever looked at him or appeared to be listening to a single word. Our defence has many problems at the moment, but it will never improve whilst he is in goal. If Silva can't see the root of our main problem, then he's not the manager I had high hopes he was going to be.
Quote from: Mullers OG on October 02, 2021, 02:28:55 PM
Positives??
Gazzaniga, Onomah, DCR all below the required standard. Ream, Mawson, Robinson, Kebano all having poor games. Wilson largely anonymous. That doesn't leave many!
Maybe the international break has come at a fortuitous moment.
Absolutely spot on ...