What was the point in him, I thought Silva went after him?
Quote from: Arthur on October 02, 2021, 04:11:29 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on October 02, 2021, 04:02:10 PM
Quote from: Radiowhite on October 02, 2021, 03:42:14 PM
Of all the players to complain about, you choose muniz?
No to$$pot, why did we buy him if we don't use him.
Unnecessary.
Like Radiowhite, I thought you were complaining that he wasn't any good - if only because he was substituted on both today and Wednesday, which, to most of us, constitutes 'using him'.
I'd say it was obvious I was making reference to where is he, rather than what he has done in his 120mins appearance.
Why would Silva go after and pay a big amount of money for a player "he" wanted. screams of Ruiz or that Greek guy mitroglou
Quote from: DevonFFC on October 03, 2021, 12:56:09 AM
Quote from: Arthur on October 02, 2021, 04:11:29 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on October 02, 2021, 04:02:10 PM
Quote from: Radiowhite on October 02, 2021, 03:42:14 PM
Of all the players to complain about, you choose muniz?
No to$$pot, why did we buy him if we don't use him.
Unnecessary.
Like Radiowhite, I thought you were complaining that he wasn't any good - if only because he was substituted on both today and Wednesday, which, to most of us, constitutes 'using him'.
I'd say it was obvious I was making reference to where is he, rather than what he has done in his 120mins appearance.
Why would Silva go after and pay a big amount of money for a player "he" wanted. screams of Ruiz or that Greek guy mitroglou
I think you are entirely wrong and I don't appreciate your rudeness. Muniz is young, he is a project; he has just moved from Brazil and it will take him time to become settled. To throw him in at the deep end could cause serious damage to his career. It should be clear to anyone he wasn't bought to come in straight away and score a load of goals. Also, we have Mitro, and I don't think there is much room for both of them to start games together in this system. Squad depth is also crucial.
We could have done with the Coventry striker Gyokeres. Great pick up by Coventry. Scored 9 this season. I'd never heard of him but having looked him up he has a couple of Sweden caps.
Another perspective, for the money spent on Muniz, (a player some distance away from starting) we could have bought both Lookman AND Aina (give or take a pound) two players who would both be in our starting eleven now,
The three Silva signings (So far) Chalobah, Quina and Muniz have all been poor so far (and I'm trying to be polite)
It is of course sensible to have young players gradually developing for the future but would much prefer them to be our home grown talents rather than risky, expensive purchases from overseas. Any one going to be brave enough to guess when Muniz will be ready for championship matches.
Hope we will be giving equal opportunities to Stansfield who we seem to be overlooking.
I posted a month ago on another thread that, although I'm fully behind Silva, I have a concern about the transfers he's had a chance to be involved in thus far. Chalobah and Quina have shown little to suggest they are an upgrade on what we already have, Muniz could be a star one day but will need time and is a gamble, Gazza is certainly not an upgrade on Rodak and probably shouldn't be number one choice, Wilson started well but has faded for whatever reason.
Quote from: Riversider on October 03, 2021, 10:41:58 AM
Another perspective, for the money spent on Muniz, (a player some distance away from starting) we could have bought both Lookman AND Aina (give or take a pound) two players who would both be in our starting eleven now,
The three Silva signings (So far) Chalobah, Quina and Muniz have all been poor so far (and I'm trying to be polite)
You think we could buy Lookman and Aina for a combined £6m. Madness.
Quote from: Riversider on October 03, 2021, 10:41:58 AM
Another perspective, for the money spent on Muniz, (a player some distance away from starting) we could have bought both Lookman AND Aina (give or take a pound) two players who would both be in our starting eleven now,
The three Silva signings (So far) Chalobah, Quina and Muniz have all been poor so far (and I'm trying to be polite)
Now lets get back into reality.
We had no chance of signing lookman, he was far too good for us, and got the move he deserved.
Aina would not be starting over Tete if he was fit.
End.
To paraphrase John Lennon - 'All we are saying, is give them a chance.'
Quote from: Riversider on October 03, 2021, 10:41:58 AM
Another perspective, for the money spent on Muniz, (a player some distance away from starting) we could have bought both Lookman AND Aina (give or take a pound) two players who would both be in our starting eleven now,
The three Silva signings (So far) Chalobah, Quina and Muniz have all been poor so far (and I'm trying to be polite)
When you say "give or take a pound" do you really mean £18,000,000? Because I'd guess that's about how far out you are.
Quote from: Sammyffc on October 03, 2021, 11:50:27 PM
Quote from: Riversider on October 03, 2021, 10:41:58 AM
Another perspective, for the money spent on Muniz, (a player some distance away from starting) we could have bought both Lookman AND Aina (give or take a pound) two players who would both be in our starting eleven now,
The three Silva signings (So far) Chalobah, Quina and Muniz have all been poor so far (and I'm trying to be polite)
Now lets get back into reality.
We had no chance of signing lookman, he was far too good for us, and got the move he deserved.
Aina would not be starting over Tete if he was fit.
End.
Aina would have been starting over Odoi though wouldn't he ?
We were quoted £4 million for Aina at one stage, would have him in our current back four over both Ream and Odoi.
Sergio Romero would of been the right Argentine to sign on a free transfer not Gazza WTF
Its still early days with Muniz, although he seems the type who likes a cross into the box.
I feel we are still suffering with the inverted winger disease.
Only Kebano can cross regularly with both feet, yet we persist with Caveleiro on the left and Wilson on the right cutting back before crossing.
This does not help Muniz or Miro.
A post script to the above:
This situation was similar with Knocky.
Although a higher caliber player contrast this with Foden playing on the left v Liverpool on Sunday, it all flowed so well.
Quote from: Riversider on October 04, 2021, 09:59:40 AM
Quote from: Sammyffc on October 03, 2021, 11:50:27 PM
Quote from: Riversider on October 03, 2021, 10:41:58 AM
Another perspective, for the money spent on Muniz, (a player some distance away from starting) we could have bought both Lookman AND Aina (give or take a pound) two players who would both be in our starting eleven now,
The three Silva signings (So far) Chalobah, Quina and Muniz have all been poor so far (and I'm trying to be polite)
Now lets get back into reality.
We had no chance of signing lookman, he was far too good for us, and got the move he deserved.
Aina would not be starting over Tete if he was fit.
End.
Aina would have been starting over Odoi though wouldn't he ?
We were quoted £4 million for Aina at one stage, would have him in our current back four over both Ream and Odoi.
Sky reported that the potential fee to keep Aina was around £11m.
Quote from: Riversider on October 03, 2021, 10:41:58 AM
Another perspective, for the money spent on Muniz, (a player some distance away from starting) we could have bought both Lookman AND Aina (give or take a pound) two players who would both be in our starting eleven now,
The three Silva signings (So far) Chalobah, Quina and Muniz have all been poor so far (and I'm trying to be polite)
We signed Muniz for 7 million, in what world are we signing Aina and Lookman for a similar price 🤣🤣 that's crazy talk. Not to mention Aina is on 70k a week, and Lookman is on 50k. Neither Chalobah or Quina have had any sortnof pre-season so will take them time too. It's early days, Muniz will take probably 6 months to properly settle. He's 20 years old and only just left his home country to a completely different culture and he doesn't know the language. Torino wanted 11 million for Aina, Lookman would cost about 15 too, so completely unobtainable signings in the championship together
Quote from: WestSussexWhite on October 07, 2021, 09:07:04 AM
Quote from: Riversider on October 03, 2021, 10:41:58 AM
Another perspective, for the money spent on Muniz, (a player some distance away from starting) we could have bought both Lookman AND Aina (give or take a pound) two players who would both be in our starting eleven now,
The three Silva signings (So far) Chalobah, Quina and Muniz have all been poor so far (and I'm trying to be polite)
We signed Muniz for 7 million, in what world are we signing Aina and Lookman for a similar price 🤣🤣 that's crazy talk. Not to mention Aina is on 70k a week, and Lookman is on 50k. Neither Chalobah or Quina have had any sortnof pre-season so will take them time too. It's early days, Muniz will take probably 6 months to properly settle. He's 20 years old and only just left his home country to a completely different culture and he doesn't know the language. Torino wanted 11 million for Aina, Lookman would cost about 15 too, so completely unobtainable signings in the championship together
+1 original post makes no sense aswell
We are not signing outstanding players these days are we, forget loan deals and you have to go back to Mitro and Cairney for players that have been outstanding for us.
you know very quickly when you have hit the jackpot. It took 1 game to realise that in Saha we had unearthed a star. I'm sorry but I don't sense that Muniz will ever be a premier League forward of any note ....
Hopefully he starts against Stoke U23's tonight and manages to score a brace, that will do his confidence the world of good,
Shocking decision if he doesn't start.
