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Title: Ranieri/Loftus Cheek/ Parker
Post by: filham on October 24, 2021, 06:37:33 PM
A very good day for us today but three key figures who didn't do too well in our recent past also had good days yesterday.
Ranieri managing Watford saw his team come back from a 1-2 deficit to win 5-2 against Everton.
Parker managing Bournmouth saw then break their unbeaten run record to top the Championship by 5 points.
Loftus Cheek played as substitute for 30 minutesi n Chelsea's huge 7-0 premier league victory.

Perhaps they are better than we thought.
Title: Re: Ranieri/Loftus Cheek/ Parker
Post by: Southcoastffc on October 24, 2021, 06:38:44 PM
One swallow, summer. You know how it goes.
Title: Re: Ranieri/Loftus Cheek/ Parker
Post by: KJS on October 24, 2021, 06:40:23 PM
Who cares they were rubbish for FFC that's all that matters!!
Title: Re: Ranieri/Loftus Cheek/ Parker
Post by: RaySmith on October 24, 2021, 07:18:31 PM
We made them....
Title: Re: Ranieri/Loftus Cheek/ Parker
Post by: jarv on October 24, 2021, 08:14:55 PM
Is Ranieri the cheese man?  Must have worked yesterday.

Loftus cheek, absolute rubbish player, good riddance.

Parker, I think we would all like to know the truth, what went on.
Title: Re: Ranieri/Loftus Cheek/ Parker
Post by: Andy S on October 24, 2021, 08:39:01 PM
Not me as I couldn't care less
Title: Re: Ranieri/Loftus Cheek/ Parker
Post by: Gezza on October 24, 2021, 08:54:18 PM
Quote from: jarv on October 24, 2021, 08:14:55 PM
Is Ranieri the cheese man?  Must have worked yesterday.

Loftus cheek, absolute rubbish player, good riddance.

Parker, I think we would all like to know the truth, what went on.


I think a far as the chesse man is concerned you may be getting confused with Felix McGath
Title: Re: Ranieri/Loftus Cheek/ Parker
Post by: copthornemike on October 24, 2021, 09:14:38 PM
Going back to the OP's comments yep, a good weekend for us all.
Ranieri  - pleased that he had a good day. Basically a decent man but suspect Watford will find it harder moving forwards.
RLC looked impressive in the MOTD highlights - but then again when you beat a team 7-0 it would be surprising if you didn't! Shame he did not show up very often for us and will be surprised if he shows any consistency for them.
Have to say Scotty is doing a great job for Bournemouth, but I guess it was just to right time for him and us to go our separate ways. Just a shame it went a little sour at the end but that's relegation for you. I would have no problem with them getting the runner up spot behind us at the end of the season personally!
Title: Re: Ranieri/Loftus Cheek/ Parker
Post by: I Ronic on October 24, 2021, 09:20:30 PM
Quote from: RaySmith on October 24, 2021, 07:18:31 PM
We made them....

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Title: Re: Ranieri/Loftus Cheek/ Parker
Post by: Terry Towling on October 24, 2021, 09:47:07 PM
Quote from: KJS on October 24, 2021, 06:40:23 PM
Who cares they were rubbish for FFC that's all that matters!!

Um..I seem to remember winning at Wembley to go to the Prem with a guy that looked like parker - who was that man?
Title: Re: Ranieri/Loftus Cheek/ Parker
Post by: Somerset Fulham on October 25, 2021, 12:17:49 AM
Quote from: copthornemike on October 24, 2021, 09:14:38 PM
Going back to the OP's comments yep, a good weekend for us all.
Ranieri  - pleased that he had a good day. Basically a decent man but suspect Watford will find it harder moving forwards.
RLC looked impressive in the MOTD highlights - but then again when you beat a team 7-0 it would be surprising if you didn't! Shame he did not show up very often for us and will be surprised if he shows any consistency for them.
Have to say Scotty is doing a great job for Bournemouth, but I guess it was just to right time for him and us to go our separate ways. Just a shame it went a little sour at the end but that's relegation for you. I would have no problem with them getting the runner up spot behind us at the end of the season personally!

Yep.
Title: Re: Ranieri/Loftus Cheek/ Parker
Post by: blingo on October 25, 2021, 12:26:46 AM
Ranieri was treated badly by FFC. He is certainly not the rubbish manager that some on here seem to think he is.

RLC never had the desire to play for us at all. Was he used wrongly by SP? Probably.

Bournemouth will hit a streak where the lose a few as they have been very lucky in a few of their games. Lets see how they react when they lose a few. I'm not so sure it's SP doing a good job, but perhaps a knock on from their previous managers work. They're having fun .....for now. I still think they will drop off after this run and be lucky to finish in the top six.

Title: Re: Ranieri/Loftus Cheek/ Parker
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on October 25, 2021, 04:47:17 AM
I have no ill feeling towards any of them, it happens in football one mans hero is another mans villain.
Fans can be fickle and drama queens and perhaps too much concern in my opinion over incidentals that pale into insignificance compared to the bigger picture.
Title: Re: Ranieri/Loftus Cheek/ Parker
Post by: Twig on October 25, 2021, 08:03:21 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on October 25, 2021, 04:47:17 AM
I have no ill feeling towards any of them, it happens in football one mans hero is another mans villain.
Fans can be fickle and drama queens and perhaps too much concern in my opinion over incidentals that pale into insignificance compared to the bigger picture.

Completely agree with this.
Title: Re: Ranieri/Loftus Cheek/ Parker
Post by: FFCBadger on October 25, 2021, 10:55:53 AM
Bettineli was also on the bench for Chelsea, remember him!?
Title: Re: Ranieri/Loftus Cheek/ Parker
Post by: RufusBrevettatemyhamster on October 25, 2021, 11:32:08 AM
Does it matter? We didn't fit them, they didn't fit us. Simple really.
Title: Re: Ranieri/Loftus Cheek/ Parker
Post by: WindyCity on October 25, 2021, 06:20:04 PM
RLC is poor and doesn't rate in my book.  I don't know how he gets playing time at Chelsea.  Maybe big leads allow his participation.  As someone else mentioned in this thread, good riddance.  That's how I felt about his time at CC, couldn't wait to see him go.  And what little of him I've seen this season, not impressed.

As far as the other two go, I'd say give some more time to pass and see how they are doing.  Hard to knock Parker so far, he's done well with his new club and remains the only undefeated team in the Champ.
Title: Re: Ranieri/Loftus Cheek/ Parker
Post by: RufusBrevettatemyhamster on October 25, 2021, 07:06:23 PM
Quote from: WindyCity on October 25, 2021, 06:20:04 PM
RLC is poor and doesn't rate in my book.  I don't know how he gets playing time at Chelsea.  Maybe big leads allow his participation.  As someone else mentioned in this thread, good riddance.  That's how I felt about his time at CC, couldn't wait to see him go.  And what little of him I've seen this season, not impressed.

As far as the other two go, I'd say give some more time to pass and see how they are doing.  Hard to knock Parker so far, he's done well with his new club and remains the only undefeated team in the Champ.

Not sure I'd class RLC as poor to be honest. He was never poor for us, just never lived up to potential. We've had far worse.
Title: Re: Ranieri/Loftus Cheek/ Parker
Post by: davew on October 25, 2021, 08:01:40 PM
Quote from: KJS on October 24, 2021, 06:40:23 PM
Who cares they were rubbish for FFC that's all that matters!!
LOL +1
Title: Re: Ranieri/Loftus Cheek/ Parker
Post by: davew on October 25, 2021, 08:04:22 PM
Quote from: RufusBrevettatemyhamster on October 25, 2021, 07:06:23 PM
Quote from: WindyCity on October 25, 2021, 06:20:04 PM
RLC is poor and doesn't rate in my book.  I don't know how he gets playing time at Chelsea.  Maybe big leads allow his participation.  As someone else mentioned in this thread, good riddance.  That's how I felt about his time at CC, couldn't wait to see him go.  And what little of him I've seen this season, not impressed.

As far as the other two go, I'd say give some more time to pass and see how they are doing.  Hard to knock Parker so far, he's done well with his new club and remains the only undefeated team in the Champ.

Not sure I'd class RLC as poor to be honest. He was never poor for us, just never lived up to potential. We've had far worse.
Agreed he wasn't poor not if you are talking about money he was being paid, but maybe if the comment was about his performances, he was worse than poor!! 1 of the most overpaid and under performers I have seen wear a FFC shirt in 65 years!! So glad he is no longer with us!!

Rufus, I would like to learn who you rate as far worse than RLC, sure there have been some.
Title: Re: Ranieri/Loftus Cheek/ Parker
Post by: RufusBrevettatemyhamster on October 25, 2021, 09:14:43 PM
Quote from: davew on October 25, 2021, 08:04:22 PM
Quote from: RufusBrevettatemyhamster on October 25, 2021, 07:06:23 PM
Quote from: WindyCity on October 25, 2021, 06:20:04 PM
RLC is poor and doesn't rate in my book.  I don't know how he gets playing time at Chelsea.  Maybe big leads allow his participation.  As someone else mentioned in this thread, good riddance.  That's how I felt about his time at CC, couldn't wait to see him go.  And what little of him I've seen this season, not impressed.

As far as the other two go, I'd say give some more time to pass and see how they are doing.  Hard to knock Parker so far, he's done well with his new club and remains the only undefeated team in the Champ.

Not sure I'd class RLC as poor to be honest. He was never poor for us, just never lived up to potential. We've had far worse.
Agreed he wasn't poor not if you are talking about money he was being paid, but maybe if the comment was about his performances, he was worse than poor!! 1 of the most overpaid and under performers I have seen wear a FFC shirt in 65 years!! So glad he is no longer with us!!

Rufus, I would like to learn who you rate as far worse than RLC, sure there have been some.

Michael Brown and Bjorn Helge Riise to name two.
Title: Re: Ranieri/Loftus Cheek/ Parker
Post by: WolverineFFC on October 25, 2021, 10:48:38 PM
Quote from: WindyCity on October 25, 2021, 06:20:04 PM
RLC is poor and doesn't rate in my book.  I don't know how he gets playing time at Chelsea.  Maybe big leads allow his participation.  As someone else mentioned in this thread, good riddance.  That's how I felt about his time at CC, couldn't wait to see him go.  And what little of him I've seen this season, not impressed.

As far as the other two go, I'd say give some more time to pass and see how they are doing.  Hard to knock Parker so far, he's done well with his new club and remains the only undefeated team in the Champ.

Honestly, watching RLC the past 2 matches for Chelsea I have been shocked at how good he looks. It reminds me of how Mark Hughes moved Dembele into a deeper role and he became a different level of player.

It is a small sample size, but shows the difference between a Lampard/Parker and someone of Tuchel's level.
Title: Re: Ranieri/Loftus Cheek/ Parker
Post by: WindyCity on October 26, 2021, 04:16:11 PM
Quote from: WolverineFFC on October 25, 2021, 10:48:38 PM
Quote from: WindyCity on October 25, 2021, 06:20:04 PM
RLC is poor and doesn't rate in my book.  I don't know how he gets playing time at Chelsea.  Maybe big leads allow his participation.  As someone else mentioned in this thread, good riddance.  That's how I felt about his time at CC, couldn't wait to see him go.  And what little of him I've seen this season, not impressed.
As far as the other two go, I'd say give some more time to pass and see how they are doing.  Hard to knock Parker so far, he's done well with his new club and remains the only undefeated team in the Champ.
Honestly, watching RLC the past 2 matches for Chelsea I have been shocked at how good he looks. It reminds me of how Mark Hughes moved Dembele into a deeper role and he became a different level of player.
It is a small sample size, but shows the difference between a Lampard/Parker and someone of Tuchel's level.

Admittedly, I've only seen a handful of Chelsea minutes with RLC on the pitch.  So naturally I'm paying attention to what he's doing out there.  Granted, very small sample size but what I've seen so far not all that impressed.  I think he's one of the most over-rated players in the PL.  He must have gained his fame early on in his career, as he still is fairly young.  Not impressed at all (good riddance!) with his time at FFC.  I still scratch my head as to how he even gets playing time at Chelsea.  But, I'm biased of course......
Title: Re: Ranieri/Loftus Cheek/ Parker
Post by: Donnie Lonegan on October 26, 2021, 04:40:40 PM
I'm another who thought Loftus Cheek was nowhere near as bad as some people make out.
When I read this forum I keep seeing that Loftus Cheek and Cavaliero are/were absolute garbage, but I've never held that view.
I'll give another view, I think Tim Ream is crap, a liability who will probably cost us 20 points in a season due to hopeless errors
Title: Re: Ranieri/Loftus Cheek/ Parker
Post by: perry geyton on October 26, 2021, 05:55:29 PM
Burnley will go down

RLC will never play to his potential

Bournemouth I hope will implode
Title: Re: Ranieri/Loftus Cheek/ Parker
Post by: perry geyton on October 26, 2021, 05:57:48 PM
Quote from: Donnie Lonegan on October 26, 2021, 04:40:40 PM
I'm another who thought Loftus Cheek was nowhere near as bad as some people make out.
When I read this forum I keep seeing that Loftus Cheek and Cavaliero are/were absolute garbage, but I've never held that view.
I'll give another view, I think Tim Ream is crap, a liability who will probably cost us 20 points in a season due to hopeless errors
Just Curios do you wear glasses ?
If so you might need stronger ones
Title: Re: Ranieri/Loftus Cheek/ Parker
Post by: filham on October 26, 2021, 06:20:06 PM
Quote from: Donnie Lonegan on October 26, 2021, 04:40:40 PM
I'm another who thought Loftus Cheek was nowhere near as bad as some people make out.
When I read this forum I keep seeing that Loftus Cheek and Cavaliero are/were absolute garbage, but I've never held that view.
I'll give another view, I think Tim Ream is crap, a liability who will probably cost us 20 points in a season due to hopeless errors
Can't let that Ream remark pass without comment as he is now a favourite of mine. What do you think when you hear the frequent Rea---------m chant during matches.
Title: Re: Ranieri/Loftus Cheek/ Parker
Post by: FFCBadger on October 26, 2021, 08:59:41 PM
Callum Chambers! Happy for him  049:gif
Title: Re: Ranieri/Loftus Cheek/ Parker
Post by: AJW48361 on October 27, 2021, 10:13:30 AM
Claudio a disappointed tbh felt  FFC not big enough for him.RLC used the season to get fit and not injured and got lavished with praise on reputation while playing normally at a moderate level.Scott managed the team to stay in games with what I thought was a squad that could've survived with the Handbrake off more often.
Title: Re: Ranieri/Loftus Cheek/ Parker
Post by: Bassey the warrior on October 27, 2021, 10:31:57 AM
Quote from: AJW48361 on October 27, 2021, 10:13:30 AM
Claudio a disappointed tbh felt  FFC not big enough for him.RLC used the season to get fit and not injured and got lavished with praise on reputation while playing normally at a moderate level.Scott managed the team to stay in games with what I thought was a squad that could've survived with the Handbrake off more often.

Agree with all of this, my main gripe with RLC is he often seemed like he wasn't trying hard enough. This could be because he was worried about an injury flare up or something else, but either way he frustrated me as there's no denying his talent.
Title: Re: Ranieri/Loftus Cheek/ Parker
Post by: Twig on October 27, 2021, 12:16:57 PM
Quote from: perry geyton on October 26, 2021, 05:57:48 PM
Quote from: Donnie Lonegan on October 26, 2021, 04:40:40 PM
I'm another who thought Loftus Cheek was nowhere near as bad as some people make out.
When I read this forum I keep seeing that Loftus Cheek and Cavaliero are/were absolute garbage, but I've never held that view.
I'll give another view, I think Tim Ream is crap, a liability who will probably cost us 20 points in a season due to hopeless errors
Just Curios do you wear glasses ?
If so you might need stronger ones

:plus one:

Title: Re: Ranieri/Loftus Cheek/ Parker
Post by: Twig on October 27, 2021, 12:19:01 PM
I have been moderately impressed by RLC's performances for Chelsea this season. However to me that makes his pathetic efforts for us even worse. He clearly has the ability so why on earth did he never show it for us? Shocking!
Title: Re: Ranieri/Loftus Cheek/ Parker
Post by: blingo on October 27, 2021, 12:54:22 PM
Quote from: Twig on October 27, 2021, 12:19:01 PM
I have been moderately impressed by RLC's performances for Chelsea this season. However to me that makes his pathetic efforts for us even worse. He clear.y has the ability so why on earth did he never show it for us? Shocking!

More a case of a good side making him look better than he is, in my view.
Title: Re: Ranieri/Loftus Cheek/ Parker
Post by: Twig on October 27, 2021, 02:43:14 PM
Quote from: blingo on October 27, 2021, 12:54:22 PM
Quote from: Twig on October 27, 2021, 12:19:01 PM
I have been moderately impressed by RLC's performances for Chelsea this season. However to me that makes his pathetic efforts for us even worse. He clear.y has the ability so why on earth did he never show it for us? Shocking!

More a case of a good side making him look better than he is, in my view.

That was my initial thought but having watched a bit more of him I'd concede that he does enough to deserve his place in their starting eleven, I don't think they carry him.  But to my mind that just makes his perrformances for us all the worse.
Title: Re: Ranieri/Loftus Cheek/ Parker
Post by: Whitesideup on October 27, 2021, 02:46:01 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on October 25, 2021, 04:47:17 AM
I have no ill feeling towards any of them, it happens in football one mans hero is another mans villain.
Fans can be fickle and drama queens and perhaps too much concern in my opinion over incidentals that pale into insignificance compared to the bigger picture.
I agree and much prefer bigger pictures.
Title: Re: Ranieri/Loftus Cheek/ Parker
Post by: WolverineFFC on October 27, 2021, 11:52:08 PM
Quote from: Twig on October 27, 2021, 02:43:14 PM
Quote from: blingo on October 27, 2021, 12:54:22 PM
Quote from: Twig on October 27, 2021, 12:19:01 PM
I have been moderately impressed by RLC's performances for Chelsea this season. However to me that makes his pathetic efforts for us even worse. He clear.y has the ability so why on earth did he never show it for us? Shocking!

More a case of a good side making him look better than he is, in my view.

That was my initial thought but having watched a bit more of him I'd concede that he does enough to deserve his place in their starting eleven, I don't think they carry him.  But to my mind that just makes his perrformances for us all the worse.

Tuchel's no fool. There is a reason he is out there. Having better players helps, but ultimately I think it is because he is playing so much deeper and it has made his absence of finishing skill less apparent. The goal on the weekend where he ends up assisting Mount was more about his lack of composure as it was great vision.
Title: Re: Ranieri/Loftus Cheek/ Parker
Post by: Steeeeeeeeeed on October 28, 2021, 12:44:30 AM
Lookman scored for Leicester last night, helped them to qualify for the next round of the League Cup