Just watching the full replay on FFCTV (paused after 30 minutes) after listening to the commentary yesterday, surely this young man should be on our January wish list of signings? Thoughts please guys.
To be honest he looked very impressive. Very direct and his second was well taken.
The Bristol City forums were as shocked as we were about that performance. It seems to not happen very often.
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on January 16, 2022, 07:54:55 PM
The Bristol City forums were as shocked as we were about that performance. It seems to not happen very often.
Yeah I saw that but he did look good .
I think he could fit in well with our squad. Big, strong and more importantly has great pace. Would be good competition and cover for Munez/Mitro. Guessing he wouldn't cost the earth either.
Found his silencing motion to the Hammyend very off putting, but players do this sort of thing all the time I suppose, a la Carv a few months ago...still find it off putting though.
And he's only 22
Quote from: South Coast White on January 16, 2022, 08:02:17 PM
I think he could fit in well with our squad. Big, strong and more importantly has great pace. Would be good competition and cover for Munez/Mitro. Guessing he wouldn't cost the earth either.
Surely Jay Stansfield is the next in line behind Mitro and Muniz?
He's made 70 league appearances for Bristol and scored 5 goals including the two yesterday. And he's a centre forward. No thanks
Quote from: Jamie88 on January 16, 2022, 08:42:46 PM
He's made 70 league appearances for Bristol and scored 5 goals including the two yesterday. And he's a centre forward. No thanks
Prolific
And young Bowie is developing into a strong lad who can score goals.
Looked v v impressive yesterday, and scored immense goals, but I don't think that's the norm for him.
Could be worth a scout, but wouldn't be top of my wish list right this second.
Need to set our sights on much better players. Be more ambitious
Quote from: Jamie88 on January 16, 2022, 08:42:46 PM
He's made 70 league appearances for Bristol and scored 5 goals including the two yesterday. And he's a centre forward. No thanks
Making signings on the basis of a couple of good goals is as bad as making them on the basis of a few good stats.
Quote from: filham on January 16, 2022, 09:04:17 PM
Quote from: Jamie88 on January 16, 2022, 08:42:46 PM
He's made 70 league appearances for Bristol and scored 5 goals including the two yesterday. And he's a centre forward. No thanks
Making signings on the basis of a couple of good goals is as bad as making them on the basis of a few good stats.
Very true. You never know why he played so oddly well yesterday....wanting a move,lucky,in the mood?
So many reasons for a player looking good in one game compared to the overall stats. Multiple in person scouting reports or watching the tapes prevents knee jerk mistake signings. Saying that there is something there and he is very raw still
No chance, Stansfield please. 5 goals in 70 apps and people want him here, give our youngsters a chance instead
GJ made the same point yesterday
Us older supporters have seen plenty of players players have a good game against us,but once they sign for us they are just mediocre
Quote from: Jamie88 on January 16, 2022, 08:42:46 PM
He's made 70 league appearances for Bristol and scored 5 goals including the two yesterday. And he's a centre forward. No thanks
Have you seen him play? Stats are one thing and can paint an inaccurate picture of the player. This is also why you never judge a player based on stats- especially a young one. Let me ask you something, how many of those games did he come off the bench? How many full seasons has be played in his professional career (one season).. was he always a striker or was he played out of position under another manager? Not exactly unheard of being a younger player and all..
He looked a young capable player, who given time and the right coaching, could be a good asset. Gentlemen Jim said at least three times during the match that he hoped we were looking at him.
Quote from: LC on January 17, 2022, 01:31:29 AM
Quote from: Jamie88 on January 16, 2022, 08:42:46 PM
He's made 70 league appearances for Bristol and scored 5 goals including the two yesterday. And he's a centre forward. No thanks
Have you seen him play? Stats are one thing and can paint an inaccurate picture of the player. This is also why you never judge a player based on stats- especially a young one. Let me ask you something, how many of those games did he come off the bench? How many full seasons has be played in his professional career (one season).. was he always a striker or was he played out of position under another manager? Not exactly unheard of being a younger player and all..
He looked a young capable player, who given time and the right coaching, could be a good asset. Gentlemen Jim said at least three times during the match that he hoped we were looking at him.
I think yesterday's "stats can paint an accurate picture of the player", as Semenyo was immense and his statistics (who scored 8.86) were amazing. Unfortunately his statistics, before this game, indicate he had no idea how to shoot with 79 shots and 3 goals. Before today, Bristol City fans would have swapped Semenyo for Rui Fonte, i doubt he has improved that much in the last week.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on January 17, 2022, 03:18:40 AM
Quote from: LC on January 17, 2022, 01:31:29 AM
Quote from: Jamie88 on January 16, 2022, 08:42:46 PM
He's made 70 league appearances for Bristol and scored 5 goals including the two yesterday. And he's a centre forward. No thanks
Have you seen him play? Stats are one thing and can paint an inaccurate picture of the player. This is also why you never judge a player based on stats- especially a young one. Let me ask you something, how many of those games did he come off the bench? How many full seasons has be played in his professional career (one season).. was he always a striker or was he played out of position under another manager? Not exactly unheard of being a younger player and all..
He looked a young capable player, who given time and the right coaching, could be a good asset. Gentlemen Jim said at least three times during the match that he hoped we were looking at him.
I think yesterday's "stats can paint an accurate picture of the player", as Semenyo was immense and his statistics (who scored 8.86) were amazing. Unfortunately his statistics, before this game, indicate he had no idea how to shoot with 79 shots and 3 goals. Before today, Bristol City fans would have swapped Semenyo for Rui Fonte, i doubt he has improved that much in the last week.
Couldn't imagine Fonte scoring those goals! Not at that level anyway.
Interesting use of stats in this week's The Apprentice.
The teams had to create a toothbrush for children. In a survey of four children, two boys and two girls, carried out by the Men's team, one boy said the team's toothbrush was 'really cool,' but none of the other three kids liked it.
This was presented by the team to potential buyers from Superdrug and BUPA as '50 percent of boys liked the toothbrush.'
The Men's team lost the task, with their toothbrush design condemned as 'looking like a turd' by Sir Alan.
Quote from: Stoneleigh Loyalist on January 16, 2022, 08:48:20 PM
And young Bowie is developing into a strong lad who can score goals.
I do agree Bowie and Stansfield are looking increasingly more impressive so I do agree those guys should be next in line really.
Quote from: RaySmith on January 17, 2022, 05:08:00 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on January 17, 2022, 03:18:40 AM
Quote from: LC on January 17, 2022, 01:31:29 AM
Quote from: Jamie88 on January 16, 2022, 08:42:46 PM
He's made 70 league appearances for Bristol and scored 5 goals including the two yesterday. And he's a centre forward. No thanks
Have you seen him play? Stats are one thing and can paint an inaccurate picture of the player. This is also why you never judge a player based on stats- especially a young one. Let me ask you something, how many of those games did he come off the bench? How many full seasons has be played in his professional career (one season).. was he always a striker or was he played out of position under another manager? Not exactly unheard of being a younger player and all..
He looked a young capable player, who given time and the right coaching, could be a good asset. Gentlemen Jim said at least three times during the match that he hoped we were looking at him.
I think yesterday's "stats can paint an accurate picture of the player", as Semenyo was immense and his statistics (who scored 8.86) were amazing. Unfortunately his statistics, before this game, indicate he had no idea how to shoot with 79 shots and 3 goals. Before today, Bristol City fans would have swapped Semenyo for Rui Fonte, i doubt he has improved that much in the last week.
Couldn't imagine Fonte scoring those goals! Not at that level anyway.
Interesting use of stats in this week's The Apprentice.
The teams had to create a toothbrush for children. In a survey of four children, two boys and two girls, carried out by the Men's team, one boy said the team's toothbrush was 'really cool,' but none of the other three kids liked it.
This was presented by the team to potential buyers from Superdrug and BUPA as '50 percent of boys liked the toothbrush.'
The Men's team lost the task, with their toothbrush design condemned as 'looking like a turd' by Sir Alan.
It doesn't matter how good a player looks; if his "shooting accuracy" statistics are three times worse than Knockaert.
For me, he's one of those players that would be a real punt, especially if we are playing in the PL next season as we hope. For PL level he does not have anywhere near the pedigree yet, and I would expect him to first score a minimum 15 in the Championship before we would consider him for the next level, but if we were expecting to be in the Championship, yes it would be interesting. The problem is he is unlikely to get enough chances for us to really develop.
Next season we will not be able to afford the luxury of giving up and coming players the chance to hone their craft, they will need to be PL ready. With that said, we will also need a player of that kind of profile next season.
Quote from: The Cravenette on January 16, 2022, 08:41:48 PM
Quote from: South Coast White on January 16, 2022, 08:02:17 PM
I think he could fit in well with our squad. Big, strong and more importantly has great pace. Would be good competition and cover for Munez/Mitro. Guessing he wouldn't cost the earth either.
Surely Jay Stansfield is the next in line behind Mitro and Muniz?
+10 Madam.
Hal Robson-Kanu looked like class player for Wales against Belgium in 2016. Then he got his Premier League move and continued to be as unimpressive as he had been at Reading.
Aboubakar Kamara is a pretty apt comparison to Semenyo (though I'd argue Kamara had shown more at his age).
It was one game and as others have pointed out his stats before that game were unimpressive. I'd rather back our own youngsters and see them given opportunities.
Quote from: Twig on January 17, 2022, 09:48:05 AM
It was one game and as others have pointed out his stats before that game were unimpressive. I'd rather back our own youngsters and see them given opportunities.
I agree. Give our own youngsters a chance. It might actually encourage them to sign extended contracts.
He looked good on the basis of that one performance, but his stats show he would be a bit of a punt. I would agree with others, that Muniz and Stansfield deserve a chance next season to prove themselves. There is no point in bringing in another player with 'potential' to challenge for one spot in the team.
In terms of attacking players, I think we just need a new winger to challenge/replace Kebano and be cover for Wilson - but who can also play centre forward if the aforementioned youngsters struggle. I would say that Ismaila Sarr would be ideal (if Watford go down), but of course there would be plenty of rivals for his signature...
Any new winger coming in would probably be dependent on one or both of Knockaert and Cavaleiro leaving and they will be difficult to shift :022:
After this game, I thought, boy is he a handful. Had a look at his stats and was a bit perplexed so thought, no chance. Upon reflection, I'd keep tabs till end of season and maybe, if cheap, take a punt. Reasoning, he's quick and direct albeit strong. So could be a replacement for say Kamara for that raw athleticism. Something we'll need in Prem. He's also 20 so stats wise, I'd expect them to be relatively low but if its showing progression, then its something we can work with. I'd expect his stats to go up in a better team too. As usual, the argument we need to not sign players as we have youth falls flat. If these youngsters are good enough, they will play. Simple as that. Compromising the strength of your team/squad on the chance you allow a youth player to come through is a bad way to run club.
I didn't even think Semenyo was their best player, that fuzzy haired defender Han-Noah Massengo seemed to be all over the pitch. Their manager thought otherwise though and hooked him after 50 minutes.
Should look good though, wasn't cheap!
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/han-noah-massengo/profil/spieler/536508
Not for me, I wasn't over impressed.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on January 17, 2022, 03:18:40 AM
Quote from: LC on January 17, 2022, 01:31:29 AM
Quote from: Jamie88 on January 16, 2022, 08:42:46 PM
He's made 70 league appearances for Bristol and scored 5 goals including the two yesterday. And he's a centre forward. No thanks
Have you seen him play? Stats are one thing and can paint an inaccurate picture of the player. This is also why you never judge a player based on stats- especially a young one. Let me ask you something, how many of those games did he come off the bench? How many full seasons has be played in his professional career (one season).. was he always a striker or was he played out of position under another manager? Not exactly unheard of being a younger player and all..
He looked a young capable player, who given time and the right coaching, could be a good asset. Gentlemen Jim said at least three times during the match that he hoped we were looking at him.
I think yesterday's "stats can paint an accurate picture of the player", as Semenyo was immense and his statistics (who scored 8.86) were amazing. Unfortunately his statistics, before this game, indicate he had no idea how to shoot with 79 shots and 3 goals. Before today, Bristol City fans would have swapped Semenyo for Rui Fonte, i doubt he has improved that much in the last week.
Here are some different stats, 6 starts this season, 3 goals and 3 assists.
12 total games, but most were cameo appearances, if you breakdown how many minutes he has played, he played just over 7 full games. So 7 games 3 goals and 3 assists. Not that bad for a young player with only 1 full season under his belt.
I'm not saying I think we should buy him, but the attitude of, his stats are bad so let's ignore him, frankly is a poor approach.
