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Title: Fulham no.1 transfer deal needs to be done urgently - WAKE UP or lose Carvalho!
Post by: Nick Bateman on January 30, 2022, 06:17:25 PM
Whoever is in charge of Fulham's transfer dealings must act now or we shall regret this opportunity for years to come. Fabio Carvalho has already shown what an outstanding talent he is at the ripe age of 18, yet the club are in talks with future opponents of the club in allowing Liverpool to pinch him for a mere £5million.

Does Tony Khan actually need £5million? After the debacle when we were last promoted and promises were made that this would not happen again, it is happening again under our very noses.

Fulham should offer Calvalho and his agent SILLY MONEY to force the deal through. We have one day to finalize this procreation or we shall be forced to squander one of the best transfer discoveries this club has ever accomplished.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-10457469/Liverpool-negotiating-5m-Fulham-star-attacking-midfielder-Fabio-Carvalho.html (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-10457469/Liverpool-negotiating-5m-Fulham-star-attacking-midfielder-Fabio-Carvalho.html)
Title: Re: Fulham no.1 transfer deal needs to be done urgently - WAKE UP or lose Carvalho!
Post by: Somerset Fulham on January 30, 2022, 06:20:13 PM
What is a transfer discovery?
Title: Re: Fulham no.1 transfer deal needs to be done urgently - WAKE UP or lose Carvalho!
Post by: FFCFOREVER on January 30, 2022, 06:21:44 PM
Quote from: Nick Bateman on January 30, 2022, 06:17:25 PM
Whoever is in charge of Fulham's transfer dealings must act now or we shall regret this opportunity for years to come. Fabio Carvalho has already shown what an outstanding talent he is at the ripe age of 18, yet the club are in talks with future opponents of the club in allowing Liverpool to pinch him for a mere £5million.

Does Tony Khan actually need £5million? After the debacle when we were last promoted and promises were made that this would not happen again, it is happening again under our very noses.

Fulham should offer Calvalho and his agent SILLY MONEY to force the deal through. We have one day to finalize this procreation or we shall be forced to squander one of the best transfer discoveries this club has ever accomplished.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-10457469/Liverpool-negotiating-5m-Fulham-star-attacking-midfielder-Fabio-Carvalho.html (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-10457469/Liverpool-negotiating-5m-Fulham-star-attacking-midfielder-Fabio-Carvalho.html)
Whilst I would love him to stay, no player is bigger than the club and if he wants to go as is being reported we would be left with a player not committed.
Title: Re: Fulham no.1 transfer deal needs to be done urgently - WAKE UP or lose Carvalho!
Post by: PaulJ123 on January 30, 2022, 06:42:34 PM
He's a goner, you don't turn down Liverpool if you're Fab I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Fulham no.1 transfer deal needs to be done urgently - WAKE UP or lose Carvalho!
Post by: Mince n Tatties on January 30, 2022, 06:43:33 PM
Why would Silva state on Friday that he wasn't  going anywhere in this window....Surely he must know what's happening,if not and he goes the manager might look a fool for giving out that statement  on Friday,and he's far from a fool,so we will see.
Title: Re: Fulham no.1 transfer deal needs to be done urgently - WAKE UP or lose Carvalho!
Post by: PaulJ123 on January 30, 2022, 06:49:29 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 30, 2022, 06:43:33 PM
Why would Silva state on Friday that he wasn't  going anywhere in this window....Surely he must know what's happening,if not and he goes the manager might look a fool for giving out that statement  on Friday,and he's far from a fool,so we will see.

Not if Fab's turned around today and said he wants to go? If so really poor from him.
Title: Re: Fulham no.1 transfer deal needs to be done urgently - WAKE UP or lose Carvalho!
Post by: Blawarmy on January 30, 2022, 06:55:24 PM
Quote from: PaulJ123 on January 30, 2022, 06:49:29 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 30, 2022, 06:43:33 PM
Why would Silva state on Friday that he wasn't  going anywhere in this window....Surely he must know what's happening,if not and he goes the manager might look a fool for giving out that statement  on Friday,and he's far from a fool,so we will see.

Not if Fab's turned around today and said he wants to go? If so really poor from him.
Really poor from him if true. It looks more like Liverpool forcing it though.
Title: Re: Fulham no.1 transfer deal needs to be done urgently - WAKE UP or lose Carvalho!
Post by: Bill2 on January 30, 2022, 06:56:36 PM
Do you not think the Club has already tried to get Fab to sign a new contract. There are limitations as to how much they can put on the table and it would appear that he is unwilling to sign.
All we can do is keep him for the rest of the season and see if he will sign in the summer.
Title: Re: Fulham no.1 transfer deal needs to be done urgently - WAKE UP or lose Carvalho!
Post by: JimOG on January 30, 2022, 06:57:05 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 30, 2022, 06:43:33 PM
Why would Silva state on Friday that he wasn't  going anywhere in this window....Surely he must know what's happening,if not and he goes the manager might look a fool for giving out that statement  on Friday,and he's far from a fool,so we will see.

Well if it's a loan back until the end of this season technically Marco is right...?
Title: Re: Fulham no.1 transfer deal needs to be done urgently - WAKE UP or lose Carvalho!
Post by: Somerset Fulham on January 30, 2022, 06:59:06 PM
There is literally nobody to blame here.
Title: Re: Fulham no.1 transfer deal needs to be done urgently - WAKE UP or lose Carvalho!
Post by: H4usuallysitting on January 30, 2022, 07:01:05 PM
Isn't he staying until the end of the season - if we get promoted he'll sign a new deal?
Title: Re: Fulham no.1 transfer deal needs to be done urgently - WAKE UP or lose Carvalho!
Post by: Blawarmy on January 30, 2022, 07:01:23 PM
Quote from: Bill2 on January 30, 2022, 06:56:36 PM
Do you not think the Club has already tried to get Fab to sign a new contract. There are limitations as to how much they can put on the table and it would appear that he is unwilling to sign.
All we can do is keep him for the rest of the season and see if he will sign in the summer.
It looks like he'll be gone in the next 24 hours, which is a real pisser considering the season he's having. I just hope he doesn't lose his motivation knowing he'll be off to Livarpool at the end of the season! 
Title: Re: Fulham no.1 transfer deal needs to be done urgently - WAKE UP or lose Carvalho!
Post by: ChesterTheTabby on January 30, 2022, 07:02:12 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 30, 2022, 06:43:33 PM
Why would Silva state on Friday that he wasn't  going anywhere in this window....Surely he must know what's happening,if not and he goes the manager might look a fool for giving out that statement  on Friday,and he's far from a fool,so we will see.

If the loan back rumor is true, then he's going nowhere for the season, but he will be off to Liverpool in the summer. Coy if true.
Title: Re: Fulham no.1 transfer deal needs to be done urgently - WAKE UP or lose Carvalho!
Post by: Mince n Tatties on January 30, 2022, 07:03:39 PM
Quote from: JimOG on January 30, 2022, 06:57:05 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 30, 2022, 06:43:33 PM
Why would Silva state on Friday that he wasn't  going anywhere in this window....Surely he must know what's happening,if not and he goes the manager might look a fool for giving out that statement  on Friday,and he's far from a fool,so we will see.

Well if it's a loan back until the end of this season technically Marco is right...?

Not really as he also said if you read it,we hope to get it sorted out in the Summer and he stays at the club...
Did he say club he loves?
Title: Re: Fulham no.1 transfer deal needs to be done urgently - WAKE UP or lose Carvalho!
Post by: LC on January 30, 2022, 07:27:07 PM
I saw Neco Williams the Liverpool right back is available on loan, I wonder if he would be a part of any deal.

The manager has said he's staying until then end of the season, a manager doesn't say that this late on in the window if that was not the case.
Title: Re: Fulham no.1 transfer deal needs to be done urgently - WAKE UP or lose Carvalho!
Post by: Caedal on January 30, 2022, 07:29:03 PM
Assuming he's told the club he isn't going to sign a new deal, there's 2 logical reasons he's being sold with 6 month loan back.
1) we're selling with a sell on % as part of the deal. Obviously then what we're overall selling him for could end up being significantly more
2) specifically selling to Liverpool is probably a ffp relief on the Harry Wilson transfer. As we know the Harvey Elliot tribunal fee was also offset on his transfer fee, and the rest not due until the end of the season maybe doing this helps in some way accounting wise
Title: Re: Fulham no.1 transfer deal needs to be done urgently - WAKE UP or lose Carvalho!
Post by: RufusBrevettatemyhamster on January 30, 2022, 07:33:00 PM
You can't force players to sign a new contract, nor can you force them to stay.
No player, no matter who they are, will turn down the opportunity to play for a Premier League title contender and a club playing in the champions league. Fabs wages are probably enough so he'll never have to work again. And, if I'm honest, he'll have more of a chance to play in the first team at Liverpool, than he would at one of the other big clubs.

Fulham FC will still be here whatever Fab does.
Title: Re: Fulham no.1 transfer deal needs to be done urgently - WAKE UP or lose Carvalho!
Post by: Nick Bateman on January 30, 2022, 08:05:08 PM
Harry Wilson chose Fulham's first team over Liverpool's bench. If Carvalho thinks it's more glamourous cleaning Jordan Henerson's boots and brining on the oranges in training in-between bench-warming at Anfield, then he is sorely deluded.

Liverpool have previous to this. They gazzumped us over young Harvey Elliott with a dubious panel awarding him to Liverpool from a mere £1.2million. And what has happened to him??
Title: Re: Fulham no.1 transfer deal needs to be done urgently - WAKE UP or lose Carvalho!
Post by: Somerset Fulham on January 30, 2022, 08:07:24 PM
He got injured turning in some cracking performances for the Liverpool first team.
Title: Re: Fulham no.1 transfer deal needs to be done urgently - WAKE UP or lose Carvalho!
Post by: Rupert on January 30, 2022, 09:32:10 PM
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on January 30, 2022, 08:07:24 PM
He got injured turning in some cracking performances for the Liverpool first team.
No need to let inconvenient facts get in the way of a good rant. Carry on ranting, Nick, you have created a very entertaining and a very well crafted character.
Title: Re: Fulham no.1 transfer deal needs to be done urgently - WAKE UP or lose Carvalho!
Post by: Ara's bacon crisps on January 30, 2022, 09:55:47 PM
Let's be right - if a Portuguese starlet can't be persuaded to stay at a club one place below the PL by a Portuguese manager and a Portuguese assistant, then what can you do?

Unfortunately for us in this instance we have possibly the best Academy outside the PL and there is a conveyor belt of talent emerging for all the 'big' clubs circling to raid at their leisure for peanuts.

Until the rules change and you can sign a 17 year old for more than two years, or the tribunal grows a pair and suddenly wallops a predator with a £20m fee for an Academy product (or even a mandatory 75% sell on clause maybe?) this sort of thing is just going to keep happening.

I can understand Matt O'Riley leaving because he never got a game, but Carvalho is playing regularly and he's still going, so not sure what more we can do. Maybe the best thing we can do is swap him for a couple of Liverpool fringe players in the hope that they turn into another couple of Harry Wilsons?
Title: Re: Fulham no.1 transfer deal needs to be done urgently - WAKE UP or lose Carvalho!
Post by: WolverineFFC on January 30, 2022, 10:48:33 PM
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on January 30, 2022, 06:59:06 PM
There is literally nobody to blame here.

So true.

Fabio - If he is getting offered the wages that are reported, not sure how you can turn this down. No way Fulham can match them. You are also going to a big club with a manager who has not been afraid to play young players. Sink or swim, he will have an opportunity, it is on him to take it.

Liverpool - Acting now takes away the chance they could get outbid over the next 5 months. It is a small price to pay in transfer for a home grown guy who has shown the potential to be a Champions League attacking player.

Fulham - If he has made it clear he is leaving in July and you can get him loaned back for the rest of the season, seems a no brainer to sell him now if the price is right. Offset some FFP costs, bring in another RB and/or DM with the room his transfer creates and move forward with more clarity towards summer.

Even with the above being true I would be disappointed to see him transfer on, but until the club get more stable in the Premier League this is going to keep happening. Much like Ryan Sess though, if he stays on loan and helps the club gain promotion I will be thankful for his contributions and not hold any ill feelings towards him.
Title: Re: Fulham no.1 transfer deal needs to be done urgently - WAKE UP or lose Carvalho!
Post by: Nick Bateman on January 30, 2022, 11:26:15 PM
If he is determined to leave the club that found him at the age of 14 then we might as well take the blood money to invest in some other young scroat who will proably do the same again.

In the six months on loan, I would plough Fabio with cream cakes and high carb fatty milk drinks so that the time Liverpool get him permanently, he'll be the size and shape of Big Daddy!
Title: Re: Fulham no.1 transfer deal needs to be done urgently - WAKE UP or lose Carvalho!
Post by: Somerset Fulham on January 30, 2022, 11:32:33 PM
Shut up mate.
Title: Re: Fulham no.1 transfer deal needs to be done urgently - WAKE UP or lose Carvalho!
Post by: Nick Bateman on January 31, 2022, 01:52:17 AM
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on January 30, 2022, 11:32:33 PM
Shut up mate.

Bournemouth fan?
Title: Re: Fulham no.1 transfer deal needs to be done urgently - WAKE UP or lose Carvalho!
Post by: bugsy on January 31, 2022, 02:08:57 AM
Quote from: Nick Bateman on January 30, 2022, 11:26:15 PM
If he is determined to leave the club that found him at the age of 14 then we might as well take the blood money to invest in some other young scroat who will proably do the same again.

In the six months on loan, I would plough Fabio with cream cakes and high carb fatty milk drinks so that the time Liverpool get him permanently, he'll be the size and shape of Big Daddy!
"blood money"?   Do you think there's a distinction between being a footballer compared to any other JOB?
Title: Re: Fulham no.1 transfer deal needs to be done urgently - WAKE UP or lose Carvalho!
Post by: Denver Fulham on January 31, 2022, 03:54:52 AM
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on January 30, 2022, 06:59:06 PM
There is literally nobody to blame here.

The blame comes from only signing Fab to a 2-year contract when he was 17. Then it appears he had a dissatisfying year with Parker in charge and the die was cast.

But I'd like to know why we didn't nail down Fabio for 3 years in Summer 2020.
Title: Re: Fulham no.1 transfer deal needs to be done urgently - WAKE UP or lose Carvalho!
Post by: RaySmith on January 31, 2022, 05:28:06 AM
Sadly, our game  here is dominated by the wealthiest clubs, who can throw silly money around, make offers that can't be refused.

Of course, I wish Fab would chose to stay with us, where he would likely have a first team place in a Prem team next season, but I suppose from his point of view as an 18 year old, he's probably got 12 years of a  career at the top of the game ahead -  time that will be gone in a flash, and then he has his whole life ahead, so who can really blame  him for taking the money purported to be on offer.

And as a pro player - he knows that next week he could get a serious injury, and be out for ages and never be the same player again. Now,  he is right on his game and attracting all these offers - 'who knows what might be round the corner for you', I imagine he might  be advised, by family as well as avaricious agents - so get it while you can.

At least he is reportedly being loaned back to us for the rest of the season.
Title: Re: Fulham no.1 transfer deal needs to be done urgently - WAKE UP or lose Carvalho!
Post by: Jules on January 31, 2022, 07:01:27 AM
Quote from: Denver Fulham on January 31, 2022, 03:54:52 AM
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on January 30, 2022, 06:59:06 PM
There is literally nobody to blame here.

The blame comes from only signing Fab to a 2-year contract when he was 17. Then it appears he had a dissatisfying year with Parker in charge and the die was cast.

But I'd like to know why we didn't nail down Fabio for 3 years in Summer 2020.
+1 totally agree. Crazy that we didn't tie him down much earlier
Title: Re: Fulham no.1 transfer deal needs to be done urgently - WAKE UP or lose Carvalho!
Post by: Somerset Fulham on January 31, 2022, 08:09:08 AM
I thought that two years was the maximum contract a club can give to a 17 year old?
Title: Re: Fulham no.1 transfer deal needs to be done urgently - WAKE UP or lose Carvalho!
Post by: Fulham1959 on January 31, 2022, 09:21:20 AM
Quote from: Nick Bateman on January 30, 2022, 06:17:25 PM
Whoever is in charge of Fulham's transfer dealings must act now or we shall regret this opportunity for years to come. Fabio Carvalho has already shown what an outstanding talent he is at the ripe age of 18, yet the club are in talks with future opponents of the club in allowing Liverpool to pinch him for a mere £5million.

Does Tony Khan actually need £5million? After the debacle when we were last promoted and promises were made that this would not happen again, it is happening again under our very noses.

Fulham should offer Calvalho and his agent SILLY MONEY to force the deal through. We have one day to finalize this procreation or we shall be forced to squander one of the best transfer discoveries this club has ever accomplished.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-10457469/Liverpool-negotiating-5m-Fulham-star-attacking-midfielder-Fabio-Carvalho.html (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-10457469/Liverpool-negotiating-5m-Fulham-star-attacking-midfielder-Fabio-Carvalho.html)

Do you really think that Tony Khan and the rest of the Fulham hierarchy live in a bubble, don't share the same hopes and dreams of the fans, and aren't aware of the realities in modern day football ?
Title: Re: Fulham no.1 transfer deal needs to be done urgently - WAKE UP or lose Carvalho!
Post by: StuinSalop on January 31, 2022, 09:45:11 AM
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on January 31, 2022, 08:09:08 AM
I thought that two years was the maximum contract a club can give to a 17 year old?

I am pretty sure this is the case.  Fulham or any other club are being stitched up by the rules.  The other thing you have to remember is that because we have a great academy, we take the best players from other clubs too.  It's well documented and reported on here we took Woodrow from Luton, Elliott from QPR, etc etc.
Title: Re: Fulham no.1 transfer deal needs to be done urgently - WAKE UP or lose Carvalho!
Post by: Bronaldinho on January 31, 2022, 09:49:53 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 30, 2022, 06:43:33 PM
Why would Silva state on Friday that he wasn't  going anywhere in this window....Surely he must know what's happening,if not and he goes the manager might look a fool for giving out that statement  on Friday,and he's far from a fool,so we will see.

He may not be leaving if we get him back on loan.
Title: Re: Fulham no.1 transfer deal needs to be done urgently - WAKE UP or lose Carvalho!
Post by: fulhamfan on January 31, 2022, 09:52:45 AM
why does nasty nick get his own transfer thread?
Title: Re: Fulham no.1 transfer deal needs to be done urgently - WAKE UP or lose Carvalho!
Post by: ron on January 31, 2022, 10:09:36 AM
Quote from: RaySmith on January 31, 2022, 05:28:06 AM
Sadly, our game  here is dominated by the wealthiest clubs, who can throw silly money around, make offers that can't be refused

...and, worse, those clubs can dominate the market by denying rivals access to talented youngsters by offering them the earth, but buying them just as benchwarmers.
Title: Re: Fulham no.1 transfer deal needs to be done urgently - WAKE UP or lose Carvalho!
Post by: Denver Fulham on January 31, 2022, 04:33:00 PM
Quote from: StuinSalop on January 31, 2022, 09:45:11 AM
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on January 31, 2022, 08:09:08 AM
I thought that two years was the maximum contract a club can give to a 17 year old?

I am pretty sure this is the case.  Fulham or any other club are being stitched up by the rules.  The other thing you have to remember is that because we have a great academy, we take the best players from other clubs too.  It's well documented and reported on here we took Woodrow from Luton, Elliott from QPR, etc etc.

I'm virtually certain it's a max of three years before Age 18.

Liverpool signed Harvey for three years when they poached him originally, and then re-upped him when he turned 18.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/53311848
Title: Re: Fulham no.1 transfer deal needs to be done urgently - WAKE UP or lose Carvalho!
Post by: gerrys on January 31, 2022, 05:50:16 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 30, 2022, 06:43:33 PM
Why would Silva state on Friday that he wasn't  going anywhere in this window....Surely he must know what's happening,if not and he goes the manager might look a fool for giving out that statement  on Friday,and he's far from a fool,so we will see.
Maybe he knew that there was a deal in the pipeline which would leave Fabio here until the end of the season  :023:
Title: Re: Fulham no.1 transfer deal needs to be done urgently - WAKE UP or lose Carvalho!
Post by: Lyle from Hangeland on January 31, 2022, 05:51:56 PM
Quote from: WolverineFFC on January 30, 2022, 10:48:33 PM
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on January 30, 2022, 06:59:06 PM
There is literally nobody to blame here.

So true.

Fabio - If he is getting offered the wages that are reported, not sure how you can turn this down. No way Fulham can match them. You are also going to a big club with a manager who has not been afraid to play young players. Sink or swim, he will have an opportunity, it is on him to take it.

Liverpool - Acting now takes away the chance they could get outbid over the next 5 months. It is a small price to pay in transfer for a home grown guy who has shown the potential to be a Champions League attacking player.

Fulham - If he has made it clear he is leaving in July and you can get him loaned back for the rest of the season, seems a no brainer to sell him now if the price is right. Offset some FFP costs, bring in another RB and/or DM with the room his transfer creates and move forward with more clarity towards summer.

Even with the above being true I would be disappointed to see him transfer on, but until the club get more stable in the Premier League this is going to keep happening. Much like Ryan Sess though, if he stays on loan and helps the club gain promotion I will be thankful for his contributions and not hold any ill feelings towards him.


This is correct. I don't understand the juvenile and imbecilic hate being thrown towards Richardo or Fulham's managment. Lots of ignorance among some Fulham fans.
Title: Re: Fulham no.1 transfer deal needs to be done urgently - WAKE UP or lose Carvalho!
Post by: davew on January 31, 2022, 06:53:05 PM
I thought last minute offers would be flooding in for Carv, but doesn't seem that way...still 4 hours to go though!! Surely somebody will offer 10m for him?
Title: Re: Fulham no.1 transfer deal needs to be done urgently - WAKE UP or lose Carvalho!
Post by: Rupert on January 31, 2022, 07:01:13 PM
Quote from: Lyle from Hangeland on January 31, 2022, 05:51:56 PM
Quote from: WolverineFFC on January 30, 2022, 10:48:33 PM
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on January 30, 2022, 06:59:06 PM
There is literally nobody to blame here.

So true.

Fabio - If he is getting offered the wages that are reported, not sure how you can turn this down. No way Fulham can match them. You are also going to a big club with a manager who has not been afraid to play young players. Sink or swim, he will have an opportunity, it is on him to take it.

Liverpool - Acting now takes away the chance they could get outbid over the next 5 months. It is a small price to pay in transfer for a home grown guy who has shown the potential to be a Champions League attacking player.

Fulham - If he has made it clear he is leaving in July and you can get him loaned back for the rest of the season, seems a no brainer to sell him now if the price is right. Offset some FFP costs, bring in another RB and/or DM with the room his transfer creates and move forward with more clarity towards summer.

Even with the above being true I would be disappointed to see him transfer on, but until the club get more stable in the Premier League this is going to keep happening. Much like Ryan Sess though, if he stays on loan and helps the club gain promotion I will be thankful for his contributions and not hold any ill feelings towards him.


This is correct. I don't understand the juvenile and imbecilic hate being thrown towards Richardo or Fulham's managment. Lots of ignorance among some Fulham fans.

The problem is, we all love our club and are naturally astonished to find that some of those fortunate enough to play for the Mighty Whites would actually prefer to play for someone else instead. How can this be, we ask? We, who would gladly wade through a river of gore to gain the honour of wearing the white shirt of Fulham FC are incapable of understanding that, to some people, it is merely a job. A well paid job, to be sure, but still, just a job. So, when one of our heroes turns out to be a mere mercenary, more interested in mere baubles like a Champions League winners medal, rather than our glorious adulation, we naturally cast about for who is to blame for this state of affairs. Hence the transfer team are clearly imbeciles for not making our man an unbeatable offer. Financial fair play? Pah! We care not for that. Suitor clubs are seen as better than us? Well, not by us, they aren't! We are the Mighty Fulham FC. How could anyone turn us down?

It obviously comes across as imbecilic and juvenile, though I suspect some is down to some smart people on the wind up, but it is mostly frustration and outrage finding an alternative outlet.

I do understand. I have never forgiven Bobby Campbell for selling Jimmy Conway to Manchester City. If I had a time machine I would go back in time and remove the Campbell tribe from all of history to prevent that outrage from happening. Only then it would turn out to be another sap responsible.
Title: Re: Fulham no.1 transfer deal needs to be done urgently - WAKE UP or lose Carvalho!
Post by: andyk on January 31, 2022, 07:05:32 PM
Why don't we just accept the inevitable.
Bigger clubs will gobble up any high quality players produced by our Academy. 
As far as I can see, there are two options.
We close the Academy and save our resources.
Or we link up with a top 6 club ( Liverpool or Tottenham seem the most obvious) and get them to part fund the Academy with a pathway for them to get the best players. Likewise , players who aren't quite good  enough for them could come our way.
Title: Re: Fulham no.1 transfer deal needs to be done urgently - WAKE UP or lose Carvalho!
Post by: Denver Fulham on January 31, 2022, 07:13:14 PM
Quote from: andyk on January 31, 2022, 07:05:32 PM
Why don't we just accept the inevitable.
Bigger clubs will gobble up any high quality players produced by our Academy. 
As far as I can see, there are two options.
We close the Academy and save our resources.
Or we link up with a top 6 club ( Liverpool or Tottenham seem the most obvious) and get them to part fund the Academy with a pathway for them to get the best players. Likewise , players who aren't quite good  enough for them could come our way.

I choose Option 3: Get as good as Tottenham, like we were a decade ago.
Title: Re: Fulham no.1 transfer deal needs to be done urgently - WAKE UP or lose Carvalho!
Post by: Tabby on January 31, 2022, 07:18:41 PM
I still don't understand why people are so precious about Shahid Khan's money. We aren't restricted by our owners funds, we are restricted by FFP, from which the academy is exempt.
Title: Re: Fulham no.1 transfer deal needs to be done urgently - WAKE UP or lose Carvalho!
Post by: I Ronic on January 31, 2022, 08:00:12 PM
I take solace in the knowledge that he'll become exasperated with playing under Klopp and lining up with some of the best players in Europe. Irritated by having enough money for whatever he may want and treated like a god. All the while thinking about those halcyon nights playing in the cold driving rain up in Middlesborough and the long coach journey home to Motspur Park.
There's something very wrong with that lad!
Title: Re: Fulham no.1 transfer deal needs to be done urgently - WAKE UP or lose Carvalho!
Post by: Mince n Tatties on January 31, 2022, 08:10:22 PM
One report now saying £15 million or no deal.🤫
Title: Re: Fulham no.1 transfer deal needs to be done urgently - WAKE UP or lose Carvalho!
Post by: Blawarmy on January 31, 2022, 08:14:34 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 31, 2022, 08:10:22 PM
One report now saying £15 million or no deal.[emoji2958]
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Title: Re: Fulham no.1 transfer deal needs to be done urgently - WAKE UP or lose Carvalho!
Post by: Mince n Tatties on January 31, 2022, 08:23:38 PM
Quote from: Blawarmy on January 31, 2022, 08:14:34 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 31, 2022, 08:10:22 PM
One report now saying £15 million or no deal.[emoji2958]
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lol.😅
Title: Re: Fulham no.1 transfer deal needs to be done urgently - WAKE UP or lose Carvalho!
Post by: Craven_Chris on January 31, 2022, 08:31:19 PM
Quote from: Tabby on January 31, 2022, 07:18:41 PM
I still don't understand why people are so precious about Shahid Khan's money. We aren't restricted by our owners funds, we are restricted by FFP, from which the academy is exempt.

Absolutely!

As much as we debate whether the academy is maximising its value to the club with these contract issues, its still the case that it is generating transfer revenue and generating players who contribute to the squad and/or first team for a small fraction of the cost of an externally sourced player. All while having its operating costs excluded from the one financial constraint the currently matters to Fulham. So it definitely helps the club, but perhaps it is possible to get more from it...
Title: Re: Fulham no.1 transfer deal needs to be done urgently - WAKE UP or lose Carvalho!
Post by: andyk on January 31, 2022, 09:03:41 PM
Quote from: Denver Fulham on January 31, 2022, 07:13:14 PM
Quote from: andyk on January 31, 2022, 07:05:32 PM
Why don't we just accept the inevitable.
Bigger clubs will gobble up any high quality players produced by our Academy. 
As far as I can see, there are two options.
We close the Academy and save our resources.
Or we link up with a top 6 club ( Liverpool or Tottenham seem the most obvious) and get them to part fund the Academy with a pathway for them to get the best players. Likewise , players who aren't quite good  enough for them could come our way.

I choose Option 3: Get as good as Tottenham, like we were a decade ago.

Would that be the year we sold Dembele to Tottenham,  or Dempsey to Tottenham, or Malbranque to Tottenham
Title: Re: Fulham no.1 transfer deal needs to be done urgently - WAKE UP or lose Carvalho!
Post by: Nick Bateman on January 31, 2022, 09:52:57 PM
Fabio would NOT get a place in Liverpool's starting 11. Even if he might be good enough he would be a long way down the pecking order, even old James Milner would be picked ahead of Carvalho. Does he truly wish to play barely any football in the Premier League while mostly bench-warming, or sign an extension with a lavish buy-out clause (£75million sounds about right) and play for one of the new PL rising clubs namely Fulham FC?? The FC is even named after him...
Title: Re: Fulham no.1 transfer deal needs to be done urgently - WAKE UP or lose Carvalho!
Post by: Mince n Tatties on January 31, 2022, 09:54:03 PM
No Deal.
Title: Re: Fulham no.1 transfer deal needs to be done urgently - WAKE UP or lose Carvalho!
Post by: TC's Sporran on January 31, 2022, 09:58:44 PM
deal
Title: Re: Fulham no.1 transfer deal needs to be done urgently - WAKE UP or lose Carvalho!
Post by: H4usuallysitting on January 31, 2022, 09:59:02 PM
I'd hide all the pen's
Title: Re: Fulham no.1 transfer deal needs to be done urgently - WAKE UP or lose Carvalho!
Post by: Nick Bateman on January 31, 2022, 10:33:39 PM
Quote from: Tabby on January 31, 2022, 07:18:41 PM
I still don't understand why people are so precious about Shahid Khan's money. We aren't restricted by our owners funds, we are restricted by FFP, from which the academy is exempt.

'Twas a good point Tabby but in the grand scheme of things the Khans are businessmen NOT Fulham fans. They grabbed the cheap offer, gave in without a fight, showed they still have not learned from the mistakes made last time we were in the PL which they promised they would, allowing Carvalho's contract to wander so the vultures like Liverpool could exploit, and lost a very rare young talent and shown Fulham are a selling club as far a they are concerned. Who next? Mitrovic??

It's a dark day for Fulham and for the inept board.
Title: Re: Fulham no.1 transfer deal needs to be done urgently - WAKE UP or lose Carvalho!
Post by: Lyle from Hangeland on February 01, 2022, 05:48:01 AM
Quote from: Rupert on January 31, 2022, 07:01:13 PM
Quote from: Lyle from Hangeland on January 31, 2022, 05:51:56 PM
Quote from: WolverineFFC on January 30, 2022, 10:48:33 PM
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on January 30, 2022, 06:59:06 PM
There is literally nobody to blame here.

So true.

Fabio - If he is getting offered the wages that are reported, not sure how you can turn this down. No way Fulham can match them. You are also going to a big club with a manager who has not been afraid to play young players. Sink or swim, he will have an opportunity, it is on him to take it.

Liverpool - Acting now takes away the chance they could get outbid over the next 5 months. It is a small price to pay in transfer for a home grown guy who has shown the potential to be a Champions League attacking player.

Fulham - If he has made it clear he is leaving in July and you can get him loaned back for the rest of the season, seems a no brainer to sell him now if the price is right. Offset some FFP costs, bring in another RB and/or DM with the room his transfer creates and move forward with more clarity towards summer.

Even with the above being true I would be disappointed to see him transfer on, but until the club get more stable in the Premier League this is going to keep happening. Much like Ryan Sess though, if he stays on loan and helps the club gain promotion I will be thankful for his contributions and not hold any ill feelings towards him.


This is correct. I don't understand the juvenile and imbecilic hate being thrown towards Richardo or Fulham's managment. Lots of ignorance among some Fulham fans.

The problem is, we all love our club and are naturally astonished to find that some of those fortunate enough to play for the Mighty Whites would actually prefer to play for someone else instead. How can this be, we ask? We, who would gladly wade through a river of gore to gain the honour of wearing the white shirt of Fulham FC are incapable of understanding that, to some people, it is merely a job. A well paid job, to be sure, but still, just a job. So, when one of our heroes turns out to be a mere mercenary, more interested in mere baubles like a Champions League winners medal, rather than our glorious adulation, we naturally cast about for who is to blame for this state of affairs. Hence the transfer team are clearly imbeciles for not making our man an unbeatable offer. Financial fair play? Pah! We care not for that. Suitor clubs are seen as better than us? Well, not by us, they aren't! We are the Mighty Fulham FC. How could anyone turn us down?

It obviously comes across as imbecilic and juvenile, though I suspect some is down to some smart people on the wind up, but it is mostly frustration and outrage finding an alternative outlet.

I do understand. I have never forgiven Bobby Campbell for selling Jimmy Conway to Manchester City. If I had a time machine I would go back in time and remove the Campbell tribe from all of history to prevent that outrage from happening. Only then it would turn out to be another sap responsible.

Appreciate this very thoughtful response. 049:gif
Title: Re: Fulham no.1 transfer deal needs to be done urgently - WAKE UP or lose Carvalho!
Post by: Rupert on February 01, 2022, 10:32:28 PM
Quote from: Lyle from Hangeland on February 01, 2022, 05:48:01 AM
Quote from: Rupert on January 31, 2022, 07:01:13 PM
Quote from: Lyle from Hangeland on January 31, 2022, 05:51:56 PM
Quote from: WolverineFFC on January 30, 2022, 10:48:33 PM
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on January 30, 2022, 06:59:06 PM
There is literally nobody to blame here.

So true.

Fabio - If he is getting offered the wages that are reported, not sure how you can turn this down. No way Fulham can match them. You are also going to a big club with a manager who has not been afraid to play young players. Sink or swim, he will have an opportunity, it is on him to take it.

Liverpool - Acting now takes away the chance they could get outbid over the next 5 months. It is a small price to pay in transfer for a home grown guy who has shown the potential to be a Champions League attacking player.

Fulham - If he has made it clear he is leaving in July and you can get him loaned back for the rest of the season, seems a no brainer to sell him now if the price is right. Offset some FFP costs, bring in another RB and/or DM with the room his transfer creates and move forward with more clarity towards summer.

Even with the above being true I would be disappointed to see him transfer on, but until the club get more stable in the Premier League this is going to keep happening. Much like Ryan Sess though, if he stays on loan and helps the club gain promotion I will be thankful for his contributions and not hold any ill feelings towards him.


This is correct. I don't understand the juvenile and imbecilic hate being thrown towards Richardo or Fulham's managment. Lots of ignorance among some Fulham fans.

The problem is, we all love our club and are naturally astonished to find that some of those fortunate enough to play for the Mighty Whites would actually prefer to play for someone else instead. How can this be, we ask? We, who would gladly wade through a river of gore to gain the honour of wearing the white shirt of Fulham FC are incapable of understanding that, to some people, it is merely a job. A well paid job, to be sure, but still, just a job. So, when one of our heroes turns out to be a mere mercenary, more interested in mere baubles like a Champions League winners medal, rather than our glorious adulation, we naturally cast about for who is to blame for this state of affairs. Hence the transfer team are clearly imbeciles for not making our man an unbeatable offer. Financial fair play? Pah! We care not for that. Suitor clubs are seen as better than us? Well, not by us, they aren't! We are the Mighty Fulham FC. How could anyone turn us down?

It obviously comes across as imbecilic and juvenile, though I suspect some is down to some smart people on the wind up, but it is mostly frustration and outrage finding an alternative outlet.

I do understand. I have never forgiven Bobby Campbell for selling Jimmy Conway to Manchester City. If I had a time machine I would go back in time and remove the Campbell tribe from all of history to prevent that outrage from happening. Only then it would turn out to be another sap responsible.

Appreciate this very thoughtful response. 049:gif

Thank you, I have some lucid moments from time to time.