Should the Five Substitute Rule be introduced in the Premier League next season, what effect do we think that this will have on Fulham and other such clubs?
Why stop at 5? Why not 6? Why not 11?
That would be a huge disadvantage for us. We will be lucky to have 11 players of Premier League quality. Most of the other teams will have much better squad depth until we've had a couple of seasons (hopefully) to build a decent Premier League squad. Next season we will probably need a bit of luck with injuries/suspensions to even have a realistic chance of survival.
Would be in favour of an extra sub if it were restricted to Youth / Home-Grown players etc.
Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on March 30, 2022, 04:28:25 PM
That would be a huge disadvantage for us. We will be lucky to have 11 players of Premier League quality. Most of the other teams will have much better squad depth
Agree with this. Huge advantage for the bigger clubs.
I'd go old school....no substitutions
three is too many and has been part of a concerning change in balance in football. the more subs you allow, the more it favours the biggest and strongest teams.
I am in favour of one sub because that was introduced for injury and then extended to tactical. it was then one a nd a keeper if memory serves and now the top teams who are less than ethical in anything they do want to load the dice further. This is a very bad thing.
And just on watching the game the changes change the dynamic especially the changes in the last few minutes which I would absolutely abolish except for injury. so if you take off somebody in the last 10 miutes because he is 'injured' then he would autmatically miss the next three games, because clearly he is unfit and needs to rest and recover!
As has been said it give the advantage to the bigger teams that already have an advantage. So no not for me. If it ain't broke don't fix it
No Way can this happen, it would not be a level playing field, not that it is one anyway.
The lunatics have clearly taken over the asylum.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on March 31, 2022, 02:02:26 AM
No Way can this happen, it would not be a level playing field, not that it is one anyway. The lunatics have clearly taken over the asylum.
I wish "lunatics have taken over the asylum" that would be a much better situation. Unfortunately, it is much worse than that as "greedy business owners and their international bankers that are total sane have taken over the asylum".
There is no doubt, as it has been proven rationally (i.e. mental analysis) and empirically (i.e. on the field) that "the more substitutes that are allowed, the more the bigger budget team tends to win". The big clubs hate "David beating Goliath" at least when they are Goliath, allowing more substitutes makes upsets much less common and football more boring.
If the big powers get their way and this is pushed through there must be a rule that the subs can only be made within certain time limits in the game and possibly two sets of pairs being made within certain periods.
Rugby Union has got bad enough and we would not want football to go the same way.
A lot of us can remember when a football team consisted of 11 players , we are now getting close to 11 subs which would mean the top teams could field two teams of quality players each on the field for 45 minutes.
No we have gone too far, I would go back to only two subs to cover injured players.
2 for Blingo too.
Two picked from five on the bench seems plenty.
Yet another rule change to protect the big boys but having said that how many times have you seen a team losing use all their substitutes and turn it around, not often from memory.
5 subs gives the big clubs a huge advantage over the lesser ones. And klopp should be shamed for pushing it as he's supposidly all for the politics of equality. I guess he's just not for equality in football lol...then the big guy still reigns over the little one.
Quote from: Thailand Mick on March 31, 2022, 10:26:48 AM
Yet another rule change to protect the big boys but having said that how many times have you seen a team losing use all their substitutes and turn it around, not often from memory.
It's not just that. More subs mean more players can be kept happy therefore the bigger clubs can buyy more of the better players and stop them from going elswhere to get some football..
The new role puts us at a disadvantage, all the more important to increase the quality of the squad
Quote from: _Putney_ on March 30, 2022, 04:21:11 PM
Why stop at 5? Why not 6? Why not 11?
Didn't Sven change the entire England team at half time for one friendly international? It turned that game into a ridiculous spectacle but at least play was not interrupted!
The way big clubs have been using 'player welfare' to gain an advantage over clubs with smaller squads, is as cynical as it is opportunistic. Pathetic.
Also means clubs will be less willing to offload squad players that we might have gone for.
Nine subs on the bench with three periods during a match plus half time when up to a total of 5 subs can be brought on, confirmed.
I really hate what modern football is becoming- it really is all so tiring. It really makes me wanna give up and support non-league. I hate indirectly supporting this stuff. It's only going to get worse if you saw what they're trying to do with the champions league places. These decisions being made above football fans heads are killing the competitive nature of English football and it's all so sickening.
Football is eating itself from within and is no
longer the beautiful game.
Quote from: Mr K.Dilkington on March 31, 2022, 09:11:05 PM
I really hate what modern football is becoming- it really is all so tiring. It really makes me wanna give up and support non-league. I hate indirectly supporting this stuff. It's only going to get worse if you saw what they're trying to do with the champions league places. These decisions being made above football fans heads are killing the competitive nature of English football and it's all so sickening.
Yeah completely agree, the game does seem to be losing its soul
Quote from: WindyCity on March 30, 2022, 04:43:48 PM
Quote from: S.F.Sorrow on March 30, 2022, 04:28:25 PM
That would be a huge disadvantage for us. We will be lucky to have 11 players of Premier League quality. Most of the other teams will have much better squad depth
Agree with this. Huge advantage for the bigger clubs.
Agree 100%.
I think the jury is in. Dreadful manipulation of football. Leicester broke the mould but gone are the days when another mid table team will rise to the top. Teams like Nottingham Forest, Derby, Burnley Manu (haha) etc challenging for honours are gone. I want Fulham to go up but a piece of me says not, the championship has more to offer. eg Luton now sitting 3rd, who would have thought. Good luck to them.
I also think the 'big 6' should be allowed to choose their kick off times and what day a game is played on. Given they're all generally playing in Europe, we need to safeguard the mental health of the players
The beautiful game is really moving on. I relish the time when fans will be allowed to substitute the referee. It would require a real time poll and 50%+ majority of both sets of in-house supporters.
Five sounds fine to me. I cannot empathise with people harking back to the days of one substitute as an injury replacement, when injuries were feigned and injured players were stuck out wide to limp around.
Dreadful descision.
This is just to benifit the top few bigger richer clubs.
This change in rulkes has as much integrity as FIFA or the IOC.
Still, in a world where a World Cup can be played in 40deg C heat in a dry, homophobic, misogynistic, modern slave labour state....slap bang in the middle of a European football season........what aren't football authorities capable of?
Cynical plan that takes two steps in the wrong direction. Yes, it gives advantage to larger clubs. But the amount of bitty interruptions in the second half of games already irritates this paying spectator. I'm there to watch football, not wingers jog walking to the opposite touchline or players looking for the most distant teammate to hand the captains armband to or going out of their way to thank the officials.
Unless it's Mitro and we are winning.
Quote from: Mr K.Dilkington on March 31, 2022, 09:11:05 PM
I really hate what modern football is becoming- it really is all so tiring. It really makes me wanna give up and support non-league. I hate indirectly supporting this stuff. It's only going to get worse if you saw what they're trying to do with the champions league places. These decisions being made above football fans heads are killing the competitive nature of English football and it's all so sickening.
I share that sentiment
