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Title: Translation? Silva not happy with transfer activity. (Merged)
Post by: Enfield on July 24, 2022, 07:52:38 PM
Anyone able to translate what Marco said in his interview after the game?
Title: Re: Translation ?
Post by: ALG01 on July 25, 2022, 11:44:25 PM
Yes, i think i can.

He more or less said what all independent honest fulham supporters are saying
1. We should have had more players by now
2. Its 15 days to a new season and we desparately need new players that should have been here by now
3. We need more players soon.

That s whst he said, and that is what i have been saying for ages so obviously the manager and me share the same outlook. Funny that.

Otherwise he said it was a good camp but a bit of a shame we don't have a full squad.

He said all those things.
Title: Re: Translation ?
Post by: Somerset Fulham on July 25, 2022, 11:54:51 PM
Did he say that though, or did you just make that up?


Would be great if you could clarify.
Title: Re: Translation ?
Post by: ALG01 on July 26, 2022, 12:17:04 PM
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on July 25, 2022, 11:54:51 PM
Did he say that though, or did you just make that up?


Would be great if you could clarify.

If you watch
https://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2022/july/25/marcos-estoril-reaction/
at 2.39, 2.49, 3.27, and 3.40
he says we should have had more players by now and we need more players and we are not yet ready for the prem because  that starts in two weeks

I think it was all pretty clear and explicit

he is not slav, so didn't rant, but without any doubt he is sending a message that this is not good enough and clearly not what he expected. Not ready for the prem due to lack of players.... no more than I have been saying for weeks, so if the manager and me agree then I am not sure why anyone argues, unless of course they do not think the manager knows what he is talking about.

Hope this helps
Title: Re: Translation ?
Post by: Marcel_Gecov on July 26, 2022, 12:22:15 PM
He did reflect that it was due to market condition which you didn't mention.

Title: Re: Translation ?
Post by: Kingjay81 on July 26, 2022, 12:30:12 PM
Quote from: ALG01 on July 26, 2022, 12:17:04 PM
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on July 25, 2022, 11:54:51 PM
Did he say that though, or did you just make that up?


Would be great if you could clarify.

If you watch
https://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2022/july/25/marcos-estoril-reaction/
at 2.39, 2.49, 3.27, and 3.40
he says we should have had more players by now and we need more players and we are not yet ready for the prem because  that starts in two weeks

I think it was all pretty clear and explicit

he is not slav, so didn't rant, but without any doubt he is sending a message that this is not good enough and clearly not what he expected. Not ready for the prem due to lack of players.... no more than I have been saying for weeks, so if the manager and me agree then I am not sure why anyone argues, unless of course they do not think the manager knows what he is talking about.

Hope this helps

What you've omitted to mention is that Marco clearly stated that he understands the difficulties in the transfer market. Something many of our supporters do not care to consider themselves.
Title: Re: Translation ?
Post by: FFC1987 on July 26, 2022, 12:31:57 PM
Quote from: Kingjay81 on July 26, 2022, 12:30:12 PM
Quote from: ALG01 on July 26, 2022, 12:17:04 PM
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on July 25, 2022, 11:54:51 PM
Did he say that though, or did you just make that up?


Would be great if you could clarify.

If you watch
https://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2022/july/25/marcos-estoril-reaction/
at 2.39, 2.49, 3.27, and 3.40
he says we should have had more players by now and we need more players and we are not yet ready for the prem because  that starts in two weeks

I think it was all pretty clear and explicit

he is not slav, so didn't rant, but without any doubt he is sending a message that this is not good enough and clearly not what he expected. Not ready for the prem due to lack of players.... no more than I have been saying for weeks, so if the manager and me agree then I am not sure why anyone argues, unless of course they do not think the manager knows what he is talking about.

Hope this helps

What you've emitted to mention is that Marco clearly stated that he understands the difficulties in the transfer market. Something many of our supporters do not care to consider themselves.

No, some of us do, but the people who work around this get paid vast sums to do so. if they aren't managing to do so, then it should be looked at. It's not ideal, but not really a complete failure yet.
Title: Re: Translation ?
Post by: ALG01 on July 26, 2022, 12:49:04 PM
Quote from: Kingjay81 on July 26, 2022, 12:30:12 PM
Quote from: ALG01 on July 26, 2022, 12:17:04 PM
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on July 25, 2022, 11:54:51 PM
Did he say that though, or did you just make that up?


Would be great if you could clarify.

If you watch
https://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2022/july/25/marcos-estoril-reaction/
at 2.39, 2.49, 3.27, and 3.40
he says we should have had more players by now and we need more players and we are not yet ready for the prem because  that starts in two weeks

I think it was all pretty clear and explicit

he is not slav, so didn't rant, but without any doubt he is sending a message that this is not good enough and clearly not what he expected. Not ready for the prem due to lack of players.... no more than I have been saying for weeks, so if the manager and me agree then I am not sure why anyone argues, unless of course they do not think the manager knows what he is talking about.

Hope this helps

What you've omitted to mention is that Marco clearly stated that he understands the difficulties in the transfer market. Something many of our supporters do not care to consider themselves.

57 posts but it reads like the handful of usual suspects!

You're kidding surely?
I said he doesn't speak like slav and is obviously being cautious and guarded in his use of words.
What he is saying is clear if you choose to ignore it then i don't  know how to explain the blindingly obvious.
Title: Re: Translation ?
Post by: Sting of the North on July 26, 2022, 02:06:20 PM
Quote from: ALG01 on July 26, 2022, 12:49:04 PM
Quote from: Kingjay81 on July 26, 2022, 12:30:12 PM
Quote from: ALG01 on July 26, 2022, 12:17:04 PM
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on July 25, 2022, 11:54:51 PM
Did he say that though, or did you just make that up?


Would be great if you could clarify.

If you watch
https://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2022/july/25/marcos-estoril-reaction/
at 2.39, 2.49, 3.27, and 3.40
he says we should have had more players by now and we need more players and we are not yet ready for the prem because  that starts in two weeks

I think it was all pretty clear and explicit

he is not slav, so didn't rant, but without any doubt he is sending a message that this is not good enough and clearly not what he expected. Not ready for the prem due to lack of players.... no more than I have been saying for weeks, so if the manager and me agree then I am not sure why anyone argues, unless of course they do not think the manager knows what he is talking about.

Hope this helps

What you've omitted to mention is that Marco clearly stated that he understands the difficulties in the transfer market. Something many of our supporters do not care to consider themselves.

57 posts but it reads like the handful of usual suspects!

You're kidding surely?
I said he doesn't speak like slav and is obviously being cautious and guarded in his use of words.
What he is saying is clear if you choose to ignore it then i don't  know how to explain the blindingly obvious.

Sometimes your lack of respect for the opinion of others surprises me, given how often you complain about other posters not respecting your posts.
Title: Silva not happy with transfer activity
Post by: Slaphead in Qatar on July 26, 2022, 02:18:25 PM
http://sportwitness.co.uk/need-act-faster-marco-silva-urges-fulham-sign-players-quickly/
Title: Re: Silva not happy with transfer activity
Post by: Bal_13 on July 26, 2022, 02:23:06 PM
Two things jump out from reading that:

1) at least he still sounds in a positive mindset, highlighting the value of pre-season and that it's been mostly positive. Pretty uncontroversial to say our squad is thin right now.
2) seems like the expectation is still for quite a few more bodies in, which makes sense in regards to us negotiating fees so hard with e.g. Arsenal for Leno. Sounds like we're gonna need our budget to stretch as far as possible
Title: Re: Translation ?
Post by: Enfield on July 26, 2022, 02:31:53 PM
I'm sorry that my question maybe was not clear enough. I was referring to the interview given to Portuguese TV after the game. I was hopping that someone who speaks the language could provide the gist of what was said.
If I wanted to know the content of a interview in English I probably could have looked at that myself!

It was a simple question, but if some people have an agenda I guess there's no stopping them from repeating the endless rubbish on this platform.
Title: Re: Translation ?
Post by: Nero on July 26, 2022, 02:35:37 PM
Quote from: Enfield on July 26, 2022, 02:31:53 PM
I'm sorry that my question maybe was not clear enough. I was referring to the interview given to Portuguese TV after the game. I was hopping that someone who speaks the language could provide the gist of what was said.
If I wanted to know the content of a interview in English I probably could have looked at that myself!

It was a simple question, but if some people have an agenda I guess there's no stopping them from repeating the endless rubbish on this platform.

http://sportwitness.co.uk/need-act-faster-marco-silva-urges-fulham-sign-players-quickly/
Title: Re: Silva not happy with transfer activity
Post by: filham on July 26, 2022, 02:47:25 PM
Nothing new or surprising in that report, did anyone expect Silva to say we are ahead of schedule with our signings.
Title: Re: Silva not happy with transfer activity
Post by: rebel on July 26, 2022, 02:54:32 PM
Quote from: filham on July 26, 2022, 02:47:25 PM
Nothing new or surprising in that report, did anyone expect Silva to say we are ahead of schedule with our signings.

Silva had expectations, those expectations hasn't been met. Silva gets it, Khan Jr & Co don't get it.
Preparation is everything.
Title: Re: Silva not happy with transfer activity
Post by: hovewhite on July 26, 2022, 02:55:41 PM
Like the view on here C.B 2 of would be major stepforward ,get them in then a keeper,and a back up striker.
Title: Re: Silva not happy with transfer activity
Post by: Blawarmy on July 26, 2022, 03:08:37 PM
Glad at least he feels like most of us.

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Title: Re: Silva not happy with transfer activity
Post by: General on July 26, 2022, 03:12:29 PM
Says he thinks he has a squad of 16/17. Which if you have two players in each position which is healthy you'd be looking at 5 to 6 new players. 25 squad members which us common would see us need to get another 8 or 9 players.
Title: Re: Silva not happy with transfer activity
Post by: rebel on July 26, 2022, 03:27:38 PM
Quote from: General on July 26, 2022, 03:12:29 PM
Says he thinks he has a squad of 16/17. Which if you have two players in each position which is healthy you'd be looking at 5 to 6 new players. 25 squad members which us common would see us need to get another 8 or 9 players.

8 / 9 in is about right, he's got some training by themselves, they might be leaving the club. 
Title: Re: Silva not happy with transfer activity
Post by: perry geyton on July 26, 2022, 03:32:02 PM
Quote from: filham on July 26, 2022, 02:47:25 PM
Nothing new or surprising in that report, did anyone expect Silva to say we are ahead of schedule with our signings.
Exactly
Title: Re: Silva not happy with transfer activity
Post by: perry geyton on July 26, 2022, 03:34:27 PM
Quote from: rebel on July 26, 2022, 02:54:32 PM
Quote from: filham on July 26, 2022, 02:47:25 PM
Nothing new or surprising in that report, did anyone expect Silva to say we are ahead of schedule with our signings.

Silva had expectations, those expectations hasn't been met. Silva gets it, Khan Jr & Co don't get it.
Preparation is everything.
In the real world it ain't quite that simple Rebel with the slimy agents that are in control of the market
Title: Re: Silva not happy with transfer activity
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on July 26, 2022, 03:37:39 PM
The next ten days is crucial if we are to have a fighting chance of a result against Liverpool.
I expect and want Fulham to give them the fright of their lives.
To be capable of doing that Silva needs reinforcements asap, especially in key positions, and it's the club's responsibility to back him and support him, as a manager can only be as good as the players he has under his command.
Title: Re: Silva not happy with transfer activity
Post by: Blawarmy on July 26, 2022, 03:42:35 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 26, 2022, 03:37:39 PM
The next ten days is crucial if we are to have a fighting chance of a result against Liverpool.
I expect and want Fulham to give them the fright of their lives.
To be capable of doing that Silva needs reinforcements asap, especially in key positions, and it's the club's responsibility to back him and support him, as a manager can only be as good as the players he has under his command.
Arsenal should be giving us Leno. Theyll want us to get a result against Liverpool as much as anyone.

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Title: Re: Silva not happy with transfer activity
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on July 26, 2022, 03:45:23 PM
Quote from: Blawarmy on July 26, 2022, 03:42:35 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 26, 2022, 03:37:39 PM
The next ten days is crucial if we are to have a fighting chance of a result against Liverpool.
I expect and want Fulham to give them the fright of their lives.
To be capable of doing that Silva needs reinforcements asap, especially in key positions, and it's the club's responsibility to back him and support him, as a manager can only be as good as the players he has under his command.
Arsenal should be giving us Leno. Theyll want us to get a result against Liverpool as much as anyone.

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Yes a very good point you make.
Title: Re: Silva not happy with transfer activity
Post by: Baszab on July 26, 2022, 03:50:45 PM
Why doesn't everyone on this board who have been so satisfied with the squad development so far - just tell MS not to worry,  it will all be OK in the end

That Marco - what a doom monger - doesn't know anything about football
Title: Re: Silva not happy with transfer activity
Post by: ianthailand on July 26, 2022, 03:55:27 PM
Quote from: rebel on July 26, 2022, 02:54:32 PM
Quote from: filham on July 26, 2022, 02:47:25 PM
Nothing new or surprising in that report, did anyone expect Silva to say we are ahead of schedule with our signings.

Silva had expectations, those expectations hasn't been met. Silva gets it, Khan Jr & Co don't get it.
Preparation is everything.
This forum has been telling the recruitment team since the Khan's took over. When you're 3rd in line after men in tights and forward rugby in motorcycle gear what do you expect.
Title: Re: Silva not happy with transfer activity
Post by: Somerset Fulham on July 26, 2022, 03:55:44 PM
Eh?
Title: Re: Silva not happy with transfer activity
Post by: Nero on July 26, 2022, 03:59:31 PM
Quote from: Baszab on July 26, 2022, 03:50:45 PM
Why doesn't everyone on this board who have been so satisfied with the squad development so far - just tell MS not to worry,  it will all be OK in the end

That Marco - what a doom monger - doesn't know anything about football

I mean if you read the article it say he understands the difficulty in getting player in, he is manically depressed about like some on this board he understand the process, Tuchel was moaning a lot more the other day about the state of transfer
Title: Re: Silva not happy with transfer activity
Post by: Sting of the North on July 26, 2022, 04:02:18 PM
Quote from: Baszab on July 26, 2022, 03:50:45 PM
Why doesn't everyone on this board who have been so satisfied with the squad development so far - just tell MS not to worry,  it will all be OK in the end

That Marco - what a doom monger - doesn't know anything about football

It's a difference between being satisfied and acknowledging the difficulties (something Silva also does, according to the interview). Silva's quotes sounded nothing like doom mongering. In the real world things are not binary.
Title: Re: Silva not happy with transfer activity
Post by: mrmicawbers on July 26, 2022, 04:20:52 PM
We are going after Silvas choices,we can't make them sign.I suppose if money didn't matter they might have signed earlier.
Title: Re: Silva not happy with transfer activity
Post by: FFC1987 on July 26, 2022, 04:25:56 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on July 26, 2022, 04:02:18 PM
Quote from: Baszab on July 26, 2022, 03:50:45 PM
Why doesn't everyone on this board who have been so satisfied with the squad development so far - just tell MS not to worry,  it will all be OK in the end

That Marco - what a doom monger - doesn't know anything about football

It's a difference between being satisfied and acknowledging the difficulties (something Silva also does, according to the interview). Silva's quotes sounded nothing like doom mongering. In the real world things are not binary.

Posters like you aside, I often find the responses quite binary in these regards. Point out its a concern, get told its hard so don't complain though. As I'm sure you know, stating this isn;t good enough whilst acknowledging it is hard, its more nuanced and an argument certainly made by myself but certain posters (bestofbrede for instance) just claim all we do is moan etc. Makes for a pretty toxic board if you even state the obvious without others saying be quiet. (I appreciate theres certainly a vice versa scenario here of over criticism and attempts to silence optimism though).
Title: Re: Silva not happy with transfer activity
Post by: ALG01 on July 26, 2022, 04:29:46 PM
if you read the thread headed translation.... I mention the marco interview and whilst he is very cautious in the way he talks, it is clear that he is mighty unhappy. You genuinely have to be on another planet not to realise he is very upset at the lack of progress. he is not slav so does not rant but he is unhappy because with two weeks to the start, (less now), we are miles away from having a fullsquad.

And for those that tell us why waiting is such a brilliant idea, he explains why it is not. Marco says what I the majority of real, honest and independent supporters have been saying. And seeing as most of think marco is a brilliant manager, then listen to what he is actually saying and work out where the problem lies.
Title: Re: Silva not happy with transfer activity
Post by: 70sPimlico on July 26, 2022, 04:40:24 PM
Quote from: ALG01 on July 26, 2022, 04:29:46 PM
if you read the thread headed translation.... I mention the marco interview and whilst he is very cautious in the way he talks, it is clear that he is mighty unhappy. You genuinely have to be on another planet not to realise he is very upset at the lack of progress. he is not slav so does not rant but he is unhappy because with two weeks to the start, (less now), we are miles away from having a fullsquad.

And for those that tell us why waiting is such a brilliant idea, he explains why it is not. Marco says what I the majority of real, honest and independent supporters have been saying. And seeing as most of think marco is a brilliant manager, then listen to what he is actually saying and work out where the problem lies.
You tell us on pretty much every post. Relax. We know exactly what you think.
Title: Re: Silva not happy with transfer activity
Post by: Lighthouse on July 26, 2022, 04:46:37 PM
Oh good yet another thread about .....

You are so boring, nobody cares what you think. Fulham are making the same mistakes and will be relegated.

Yes but you have said that every time and....

You are so boring. Nobody cares. Fear is the key. Let's just worry.

THOUGHT I WOULD JUST GET MY BIT OVER AND DONE WITH.
Title: Re: Translation ?
Post by: ALG01 on July 26, 2022, 04:48:46 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on July 26, 2022, 02:06:20 PM
Quote from: ALG01 on July 26, 2022, 12:49:04 PM
Quote from: Kingjay81 on July 26, 2022, 12:30:12 PM
Quote from: ALG01 on July 26, 2022, 12:17:04 PM
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on July 25, 2022, 11:54:51 PM
Did he say that though, or did you just make that up?


Would be great if you could clarify.

If you watch
https://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2022/july/25/marcos-estoril-reaction/
at 2.39, 2.49, 3.27, and 3.40
he says we should have had more players by now and we need more players and we are not yet ready for the prem because  that starts in two weeks

I think it was all pretty clear and explicit

he is not slav, so didn't rant, but without any doubt he is sending a message that this is not good enough and clearly not what he expected. Not ready for the prem due to lack of players.... no more than I have been saying for weeks, so if the manager and me agree then I am not sure why anyone argues, unless of course they do not think the manager knows what he is talking about.

Hope this helps

What you've omitted to mention is that Marco clearly stated that he understands the difficulties in the transfer market. Something many of our supporters do not care to consider themselves.

57 posts but it reads like the handful of usual suspects!

You're kidding surely?
I said he doesn't speak like slav and is obviously being cautious and guarded in his use of words.
What he is saying is clear if you choose to ignore it then i don't  know how to explain the blindingly obvious.

Sometimes your lack of respect for the opinion of others surprises me, given how often you complain about other posters not respecting your posts.

Point taken regarding my tone in responding.

But regarding lack of respect for others 'reasoned opinions' is wrong. If you have a different opinion and are willing to argue the point. I love a good and robust debate. My issue is that many people do not offer opinions, they just compain about mine, tell me I moan to much and am too negative and even on occasions tell me to support another team! and any/all that is what sets me off. 60+ years a season ticket holder means I feel itdeeply when things are wrong.

This post was barely doing anything but having a go. read the second sentence. he is suggesting that after all these years we, not me, we, or if you prefer to be pedantic, many of us do not understand things are not starightforward in conducting transfers. Really, after all these years we don't consider that. Maybe i am to touchy but I am sorry for being less than polite.

So once again point taken, I will try to do better 082.gif
Title: Re: Silva not happy with transfer activity
Post by: rebel on July 26, 2022, 04:50:17 PM
Why does it matter? The things that Marco would try out in pre season, he has to try out at the start of the season, so depending on how it goes, we might lose confidence. One thing the Premiership requires is confidence.

But really pleased Marco has said this, but there are two ways of reading what he has said.
Title: Re: Translation ?
Post by: ALG01 on July 26, 2022, 04:50:35 PM
Quote from: Enfield on July 26, 2022, 02:31:53 PM
I'm sorry that my question maybe was not clear enough. I was referring to the interview given to Portuguese TV after the game. I was hopping that someone who speaks the language could provide the gist of what was said.
If I wanted to know the content of a interview in English I probably could have looked at that myself!

It was a simple question, but if some people have an agenda I guess there's no stopping them from repeating the endless rubbish on this platform.

Whoops! I thought there was a deeper meaning and you wanted to start a dialogue on the subject.
Nonetheless it stopped me starting another thread  082.gif
Title: Re: Translation ?
Post by: hovewhite on July 26, 2022, 04:52:08 PM
If that's his comments then hope he's conveyed them to shad Khan as back up starts with him
Title: Re: Translation? Silva not happy with transfer activity. (Merged)
Post by: Enfield on July 26, 2022, 07:42:50 PM
Thanks Nero, this appears to be the content of a Newspaper report, I was asking about a TV interview
Title: Re: Translation? Silva not happy with transfer activity. (Merged)
Post by: Twig on July 26, 2022, 07:57:58 PM
Quote from: 70sPimlico on July 26, 2022, 04:40:24 PM
Quote from: ALG01 on July 26, 2022, 04:29:46 PM
if you read the thread headed translation.... I mention the marco interview and whilst he is very cautious in the way he talks, it is clear that he is mighty unhappy. You genuinely have to be on another planet not to realise he is very upset at the lack of progress. he is not slav so does not rant but he is unhappy because with two weeks to the start, (less now), we are miles away from having a fullsquad.

And for those that tell us why waiting is such a brilliant idea, he explains why it is not. Marco says what I the majority of real, honest and independent supporters have been saying. And seeing as most of think marco is a brilliant manager, then listen to what he is actually saying and work out where the problem lies.
You tell us on pretty much every post. Relax. We know exactly what you think.

Algo isn't stating what he thinks, he provided a pretty accurate interpretation of Silva's interview then has had to defend himself from those who don't like it. Silva's concerns may echo Algo's but in this instance it's Silva's comments Algo has relayed. People shouldn't't shoot the messenger.
Title: Re: Translation? Silva not happy with transfer activity. (Merged)
Post by: ALG01 on July 26, 2022, 10:19:41 PM
Quote from: Twig on July 26, 2022, 07:57:58 PM
Quote from: 70sPimlico on July 26, 2022, 04:40:24 PM
Quote from: ALG01 on July 26, 2022, 04:29:46 PM
if you read the thread headed translation.... I mention the marco interview and whilst he is very cautious in the way he talks, it is clear that he is mighty unhappy. You genuinely have to be on another planet not to realise he is very upset at the lack of progress. he is not slav so does not rant but he is unhappy because with two weeks to the start, (less now), we are miles away from having a fullsquad.

And for those that tell us why waiting is such a brilliant idea, he explains why it is not. Marco says what I the majority of real, honest and independent supporters have been saying. And seeing as most of think marco is a brilliant manager, then listen to what he is actually saying and work out where the problem lies.
You tell us on pretty much every post. Relax. We know exactly what you think.

Algo isn't stating what he thinks, he provided a pretty accurate interpretation of Silva's interview then has had to defend himself from those who don't like it. Silva's concerns may echo Algo's but in this instance it's Silva's comments Algo has relayed. People shouldn't't shoot the messenger.

Thank you for your comments.

I have been told off above for being disrespectful.... and i probably went a bit too far with a 'new' poster sounding like one of the olde worlde posters. But Pimlico is a long time critic of mine that actually nerver says anything to move a discussion along.., he just uses a low level surly style to try and upset me.... but that is because he doesn't have anything to say himself.

As long as the manager and i have a similar outlook then i am happy enough.
Title: Re: Silva not happy with transfer activity
Post by: The Rational Fan on July 27, 2022, 12:59:03 AM
Quote from: rebel on July 26, 2022, 03:27:38 PM
Quote from: General on July 26, 2022, 03:12:29 PM
Says he thinks he has a squad of 16/17. Which if you have two players in each position which is healthy you'd be looking at 5 to 6 new players. 25 squad members which us common would see us need to get another 8 or 9 players.

8 / 9 in is about right, he's got some training by themselves, they might be leaving the club.

We have already spent £43 million this window with Paulinho, Periera and Wilson, then probably another £7m to lock in Solomon long-term; leaving about another £40m-£50m for eight players (ie £5m per player).

With £5-6m per player, if we pay the asking price for players, then we won't be getting much. We could buy MLM for £5m, but I'd prefer to play short the first five games than play MLM and hope to get a another Tosin for £5m.
Title: Re: Translation? Silva not happy with transfer activity. (Merged)
Post by: We Are Premier League on July 27, 2022, 01:48:09 AM
Leno, Diop and Mbabu in the next week would cover the most gaping holes. We can then take our time and buy/borrow a CB, LB, Mid and Forward later in the window.

All of the top 8 clubs will be letting decent squad players go as their own squads start to come together.
Title: Re: Translation? Silva not happy with transfer activity. (Merged)
Post by: The Rational Fan on July 27, 2022, 02:14:31 AM
Quote from: We Are Premier League on July 27, 2022, 01:48:09 AM
Leno, Diop and Mbabu in the next week would cover the most gaping holes. We can then take our time and buy/borrow a CB, LB, Mid and Forward later in the window.

All of the top 8 clubs will be letting decent squad players go as their own squads start to come together.

When the big clubs starting letting go of quality players, we will probably have already spent all our money with Bournemouth picking up Chelsea's sixth centre back because we impatiently bought West Hams fifth centre back for double the price three weeks earlier. Chelsea's and Man Cities leftovers are more interesting to me than expensive players that West Ham doesn't want.

My Prediction is FFC with Diop gets relegated and next season Bournmouth have the better centre back partnership in the Championship and they would be better defensively prepared if we get promoted again.

For me buying Diop now at £17m is not a great solution for our long-term issues, there is a reason he is West Hams fifth centre back and that is he cannot keep clean sheets. Diop doesn't keep us up and is an expensive option if we go down. I am happy to get a young quality centre back on a five year deal cheap (around £12m) last day of the window. Such a player probably has a similar chance of keeping us up as Diop, but will help our goal of become Premier League more in the long-term.

Thinking about the squad for 2023/24 and 2024/25 is most important. We could come 17th this season, but just as likely even if we do everything right come 18th, therefore we need to think about the future. With good long term planning nothing can stop us getting automatic promotion every time we go down, and a well planned Championship season can have a premier league ready side six months before the first game.

Importantly, I don't think we currently have a premier league ready side with 2 weeks left to go, we may have already left buying players too late for this season, because buying players one season ahead of time is what successful teams must do, we need to focus on the seasons 23/24, 24/25 and 25/26.
Title: Re: Translation? Silva not happy with transfer activity. (Merged)
Post by: Baszab on July 27, 2022, 09:10:06 AM
And there we have it from "rational fan" / ie TK PR team - we are a yoyo team after all
Title: Re: Translation? Silva not happy with transfer activity. (Merged)
Post by: Bassey the warrior on July 27, 2022, 09:15:32 AM
Hopefully we can make a breakthrough on Leno and a cb to reassure Silva, can't blame him being frustrated.

Ultimately money talks and Forest clearly have more of it.
Title: Re: Translation? Silva not happy with transfer activity. (Merged)
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on July 27, 2022, 10:16:08 AM
Yes an important period of 7/8 days of transfer activity coming up that could influence and shape our season.
Title: Re: Translation? Silva not happy with transfer activity. (Merged)
Post by: toshes mate on July 27, 2022, 11:57:04 AM
When Marco Silva speaks it isn't just TK who is listening and that is a big, big, big difference to what went before.  He knows that and so does TK.  Words are words.  Action is what matters most.
Title: Re: Translation? Silva not happy with transfer activity. (Merged)
Post by: The Old Count on July 27, 2022, 12:02:09 PM

I speak Portuguese and astonishingly this entire thread is based on a mistranslation and a misunderstanding of what Silva actually said and meant.
It seems a few on here are so desperate to see themselves as being 'right' that they are quite happy to tinker with the truth.
Title: Re: Translation? Silva not happy with transfer activity. (Merged)
Post by: Bassey the warrior on July 27, 2022, 12:30:46 PM
Quote from: The Old Count on July 27, 2022, 12:02:09 PM

I speak Portuguese and astonishingly this entire thread is based on a mistranslation and a misunderstanding of what Silva actually said and meant.
It seems a few on here are so desperate to see themselves as being 'right' that they are quite happy to tinker with the truth.

Can you translate?
Title: Re: Translation? Silva not happy with transfer activity. (Merged)
Post by: Somerset Fulham on July 27, 2022, 12:41:38 PM
Quote from: The Old Count on July 27, 2022, 12:02:09 PM

I speak Portuguese and astonishingly this entire thread is based on a mistranslation and a misunderstanding of what Silva actually said and meant.
It seems a few on here are so desperate to see themselves as being 'right' that they are quite happy to tinker with the truth.

Interesting...
Title: Re: Translation? Silva not happy with transfer activity. (Merged)
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on July 27, 2022, 12:57:08 PM
Quote from: The Old Count on July 27, 2022, 12:02:09 PM

I speak Portuguese and astonishingly this entire thread is based on a mistranslation and a misunderstanding of what Silva actually said and meant.
It seems a few on here are so desperate to see themselves as being 'right' that they are quite happy to tinker with the truth.

We are counting on you to translate your version of events sir.
Title: Re: Translation? Silva not happy with transfer activity. (Merged)
Post by: TheCeiling on July 27, 2022, 01:01:11 PM
Watching Mbabu's interview, he's mentioned that when he talked with Silva, the gaffer said he wants the team to hold the ball at least 50% of the possessions, and to be a very attacking team. Love hearing it, because I wasn't sure how much of dominant football Silva planned for us in a PL level. Considering all the signings we have made so far are ones Silva pursued, if we settling the CB and GK positions with hopefully a high quality LB, we can build here an exciting offensive minded balanced team here.
Title: Re: Translation? Silva not happy with transfer activity. (Merged)
Post by: Bassey the warrior on July 27, 2022, 01:04:41 PM
Quote from: TheCeiling on July 27, 2022, 01:01:11 PM
Watching Mbabu's interview, he's mentioned that when he talked with Silva, the gaffer said he wants the team to hold the ball at least 50% of the possessions, and to be a very attacking team. Love hearing it, because I wasn't sure how much of dominant football Silva planned for us in a PL level. Considering all the signings we have made so far are ones Silva pursued, if we settling the CB and GK positions with hopefully a high quality LB, we can build here an exciting offensive minded balanced team here.

That's ambitious, realistically we will need to manage with less of the ball and be less attacking against the good sides, counter attack will be key along with defensive solidity. I'm sure he knows this.