Marco Silva has just finished a short post-game press conference. Pleased with the performance against a Champions League team.
But when asked if Fulham are ready for the Premier League season: "No."
Ready for PL? "No, no. These players they are ready for the Premier League. I congratulate them for the work they have been doing. I'm always behind them, they did fantastic last season. They are working really hard.
We as a squad are not ready."
Silva said it had been a strange preseason, and that he was working with 16 senior players. He said the players here were ready and have worked hard, but that was it not possible for the team to be ready with two centre-backs, as example.
Silva asked if team needs 1 or 2 additions: "You are being positive. We have 16 senior players in our squad, no one can compete at this level with 16. I will tell you one more. No one can prepare a season with two central defenders at this level."
On talks with hierarchy: "Of course we're all on the same page, we're all in the same boat. My words are not against any one because I'm the first one out in front. Don't confuse or put Marco is angry. I'm being realistic with you."
Arrivals soon? "I expected they arrive in the beginning of the preseason, the first week of preseason second week of the preseason I hope they can arrive soon. I know that Alistair (Mackintosh) and Tony (Khan) are working on it."
Silva: "Everyone that understands football can see we need at least five or six players that is clear, if we want to be competitive. These players need help to be competitive in the training every day. We cannot be now five weeks in the preseason with two central defenders."
Total shambles. Seniors players knockaert, cav and kolongo not involved.
Slow transfers. Cb position totally no quality or cover.
Oh wells. Maybe we will see a slew of loan signings on deadline day again
We have not learnt our lessons from previous seasons have we?
He is only stating the truth and what we all know. How the powers that be have let it get this far with only two centre backs is beyond me. Yes we have made great additions but not signing 2 quality centre backs which are the priority and have been since we got promoted is setting us up to fail from the first game. I love our manager but he needs the tools to do the job. All of this falls on TK.
When you factor in Wilson's injury and Chalobah's knock (he rarely seems to be fully fit though!), then Silva's comments are extremely concerning. We need at least one centre back in urgently, otherwise an injury to Ream or Tosin (especially Tosin), then we are in deep trouble. With Wilson out, bringing in that extra attacker asap is now also crucial.
Whole thread of comments here. Says we need 5 or 6 more players to be competitive as a squad but also in the league. Most of us agree I think.
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Not perfect,but we will battle through ,badly need CHs and a miracle come the scousers next up.
Thought we were ok today and tried to play and it wasn't a loss.
Anyone with any brains on this board and other social media sites has been saying this for 3 months
What on earth are the management of our club thinking
Really pees me off to see another chance in the PL thrown down the toilet
Quote from: Baszab on July 31, 2022, 06:03:50 PM
Anyone with any brains on this board and other social media sites has been saying this for 3 months
What on earth are the management of our club thinking
Really pees me off to see another chance in the PL thrown down the toilet
And not only that, the people that have been saying it have begun to be picked on for stating the facts and are being labelled as 'hysterical' and other similar adjectives
After watching today I think relegation is the only outcome, without 4 or 5 new players in pretty quickly. We were ok in places but Silva is dead right that we have ZERO depth. Any injuries and we are done.
Bobby Reid, Kebano, Harrison Reed and Ream are not up to it in the PL - all of who will likely be starting next weekend. Robinson looked weak defensively and Bryan is not adequate cover as we already know. If Mitro gets injured - we are absolutely f**ked.
Disappointing more than anything, we had a good base from last year and we really haven't built on it. Staggered that we haven't got at least one CB in. Silva rightly fuming. Got a feeling he'll have walked by the Christmas World Cup break.
The only news here is that he's honest enough to say it. Anyone with half a brain and some basic knowledge about football has been saying the same for weeks now. It's the same old story and it won't get any better as long as TK is in charge.
@Rog
Reed was one of our best players in our previous PL campaign and Marco went out of his way to say "don't confuse or write Silva is angry"
Quote from: Hatch007 on July 31, 2022, 06:48:33 PM
@Rog
Reed was one of our best players in our previous PL campaign and Marco went out of his way to say "don't confuse or write Silva is angry"
He sounds quite angry to me.
It has been clear from past experience, MS is vocalizing the obvious, rightly so.
The only people that don't get it, are Khan Jr and Ali Mac. Ali Mac won't tell the truth to power.
Transfer's need to be quickly transacted, there has been so many sagas. Even new signings seemed relieved when done. Moneyball has been replaced by 'Wheeler Dealer'.
It's all about 'quality and depth' which just isn't there.
So presumably 5/6 would be - GK, CB, CB, LB, CAM, CF?
Even with those, I can't help but feel that'd be the absolute base of what we require.
Can't believe how much we wasted on Cav/Knocks... unbelievable that we're still beating the FFP brunt of those today.
Not worrying at all. Just fact. We knew we needed at least 8-10 new players. We have 4 so far.
Quote from: Craven Mad on July 31, 2022, 07:01:21 PM
So presumably 5/6 would be - GK, CB, CB, LB, CAM, CF?
Even with those, I can't help but feel that'd be the absolute base of what we require.
Can't believe how much we wasted on Cav/Knocks... unbelievable that we're still beating the FFP brunt of those today.
Agree. Thats the minimum requirement.
"As I said last week, and I repeat again, we have to act much faster. Pre-season is to prepare your team for the Premier League.
"Some players that arrive now, they need four weeks to be ready. They need five weeks to be ready. That is the situation."
Quote from: rebel on July 31, 2022, 07:37:02 PM
"As I said last week, and I repeat again, we have to act much faster. Pre-season is to prepare your team for the Premier League.
"Some players that arrive now, they need four weeks to be ready. They need five weeks to be ready. That is the situation."
Respectfully disagree with him on this, Good players dont need four weeks to come in and make a difference, Anderson and Tosin came in last time and turned things upside down defensively from game one without a preseason here, our attacking players came in much sooner and did naff all. Mbabu came on today and got an assist in about 4 minutes having arrived a couple days ago, years ago players moved mid season with no dramas. I do agree it's desirable to have everyone in before pre-season but its just not always possible for a world of reasons. That said, it really is time to get these deals over the line. Hopefully a good 2 or 3 this week at least.
Leno Monday, then Diop or another CB shortly after would be ideal. Lets hope it happens
Quote from: jayffc on July 31, 2022, 07:42:26 PM
Quote from: rebel on July 31, 2022, 07:37:02 PM
"As I said last week, and I repeat again, we have to act much faster. Pre-season is to prepare your team for the Premier League.
"Some players that arrive now, they need four weeks to be ready. They need five weeks to be ready. That is the situation."
Respectfully disagree with him on this, Good players dont need four weeks to come in and make a difference, Anderson and Tosin came in last time and turned things upside down defensively from game one without a preseason here, our attacking players came in much sooner and did naff all. Mbabu came on today and got an assist in about 4 minutes having arrived a couple days ago, years ago players moved mid season with no dramas. I do agree it's desirable to have everyone in before pre-season but its just not always possible for a world of reasons. That said, it really is time to get these deals over the line. Hopefully a good 2 or 3 this week at least.
Leno Monday, then Diop or another CB shortly after would be ideal. Lets hope it happens
Sorry buddy hut you're living in dreamland. Players coming in and immediately settling is an anomaly, not the rule. Not being funny but Silva is dead right on this and posters like yourself have said before, trust in Silva. Well now we're just picking and choosing on how much we want to give the clubs management some slack. Regardless, it's been a shambles and unless Silva pulls out a miracle, heads should roll. They won't though. Yoyo status quo.
Quote from: rebel on July 31, 2022, 07:37:02 PM
"As I said last week, and I repeat again, we have to act much faster. Pre-season is to prepare your team for the Premier League.
"Some players that arrive now, they need four weeks to be ready. They need five weeks to be ready. That is the situation."
Bearing this in mind. Why does it take so long for us to get deals done? I get TK has other interests which is fine IF he is handing the responsibility of getting deals done to somebody who can dedicate all their time to do just that. I know we are lucky to have our owner but I feel he really he needs to sideswipe TK and get a competent DOF to take on these roles as Ali Mac is as much use as a chocolate fireguard. Shad really needs to do what is right but I cant see it in the near future. COYW
Full post match press conference
https://m.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=347&v=l1WnOpfCmDY&feature=emb_title
3 teams went up.... Forest had to sign a bundle of players, Boscombe haven't signed anybody, we've done a bit of good business
If you listen to the whole press conference MS was fuming - he couldn't make the situation any clearer - for a manager to talk like that in a press room, there must be serious trouble ahead
Quote from: Baszab on July 31, 2022, 08:44:42 PM
If you listen to the whole press conference MS was fuming - he couldn't make the situation any clearer - for a manager to talk like that in a press room, there must be serious trouble ahead
He's upset at the situation, he's not upset with Ali Mac or Tony. He said they're in the same boat as him, and they speak every day.
I am glad that at least there's constant communication. It's not Silva versus the hierarchy.
I'm curious what he means by needing to "act" though. I can only assume it means giving into the other club/player demands rather than trying to find the best deal - whatever is needed to get the deal done.
Exciting that he wants things done by Tuesday/Wednesday - even if too late for Saturday's match.
Quote from: Matt10 on July 31, 2022, 09:08:18 PM
Quote from: Baszab on July 31, 2022, 08:44:42 PM
If you listen to the whole press conference MS was fuming - he couldn't make the situation any clearer - for a manager to talk like that in a press room, there must be serious trouble ahead
He's upset at the situation, he's not upset with Ali Mac or Tony. He said they're in the same boat as him, and they speak every day.
I am glad that at least there's constant communication. It's not Silva versus the hierarchy.
I'm curious what he means by needing to "act" though. I can only assume it means giving into the other club/player demands rather than trying to find the best deal - whatever is needed to get the deal done.
Exciting that he wants things done by Tuesday/Wednesday - even if too late for Saturday's match.
Saturday was always going to be a free shot. Silva will more than likely want at least 3 or possibly 4 deals completed in time to face Wolves.
Can get good odds on him being the first PL manager to leave this season anything from 7/1 to 12/1.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=l1WnOpfCmDY&feature=emb_title
at around two minutes marco says it like it is. we knew what we needed to do at the end of last season and alastair and tony have not been successful.
wow, he is so negative, he keeps repeating that we are short of players 064.gif 064.gif
the half dozen or so people that keep having a go at me for saying exactly the same thing should have a go at him 064.gif 064.gif 064.gif
he is very politic in how he talks about his bosses..... but alastair and tony are failing miserably to have left us with 15 to 16 first team players and a wasted pre season for anyone they may be able to get in now..... we needed the competion of a full squad during pre season was what he said, we had plans he said but we failed at senior level... again (that last word is mine!).
Two centre backs is not enough he said, it is not possible to be competitive with just two centre backs at this level.... marco said so!
seems me and marco (and loads of others) think the same.
There are still 31 days to the end of the transfer deadline. I understand that there is derision directed towards player recruitment within Fulham FC however with FFP restrictions plus agents seeking to extract as much money for themselves as well as their representative restricts our possible adventure within the transfer market. If we can acquire a decent CB (assume Leno is signing too) to improve our defence for the start of the season then subsequent defensive signings can hopefully be arranged between now and 31st August.
I don't take any joy in being right but I've been saying this since the end of last season. We needed a squad ready to compete for pre season and we're woefully underprepared. Possibly thankful it's Liverpool first game of the season as realistically it's going to be very tough to get anything from that game even with a full squad so gives us an extra week to get players in.
What a sorry state we find ourselves in. Some of the free signings (Ben Mee) to just even fill the squad with experienced PL players would have been ideal. Our subs bench today was mostly academy players who just aren't ready
Quote from: Motspur on July 31, 2022, 09:31:55 PM
There are still 31 days to the end of the transfer deadline. I understand that there is derision directed towards player recruitment within Fulham FC however with FFP restrictions plus agents seeking to extract as much money for themselves as well as their representative restricts our possible adventure within the transfer market. If we can acquire a decent CB (assume Leno is signing too) to improve our defence for the start of the season then subsequent defensive signings can hopefully be arranged between now and 31st August.
The manager's comments spoke volumes about 'the plans' that were in place at the end of last season... players needed in time for pre season not now being here and even when we get them needing another four or five weeks to bed in. this is just a case of very poor management.
What happened to the days when a player came one day and was in the team the next day, don't recall too many having problems.
Quote from: Rodshig on July 31, 2022, 05:54:18 PM
Total shambles. Seniors players knockaert, cav and kolongo not involved.
Slow transfers. Cb position totally no quality or cover.
Oh wells. Maybe we will see a slew of loan signings on deadline day again
We have not learnt our lessons from previous seasons have we?
The fact Cav, Knock, Onomah and Kongolo have been frozen out makes no sense to me. Fair enough they aren't ideal and we need upgrades, but they have premier league (and some of them international) experience.
When we literally dont have enough players to field a full bench you'd think Silva would at least have them report to training.
Makes the "we have 16 senior players" ring a bit hollow.
Quote from: alfie on July 31, 2022, 10:01:13 PM
What happened to the days when a player came one day and was in the team the next day, don't recall too many having problems.
Precisely, but that was when men were men and women loved them for it.
Absolute shambles. Same s*** different year and different manager, the club hierarchy once again failing to address the glaring issues in our squad that have existed for the last 4 years at least, despite having had over 100 days this time and 2 previous failures to learn from to put things right. We are getting relegated with the squad as it stands and once the recruitment team finally sign some players on deadline day in 4 weeks time we'll have written off nearly a quarter of the season and it'll be too late, just like it was the last 2 times.
Tony, Mackintosh, Shahid and anyone else involved in this farce need to sort it out or get out, enough is enough:
Tony because he clearly has a preference for his wrestling business and is not prepared to devote the time to being the director of football of a Premier League club, and because he has an ego greater than the Riverside Stand he's blinkered to his own failures. He picks fights with fans on Twitter and tells them to 'go to hell' and that he'd've killed for us to be a yoyo club, whilst taking all the credit for signings in the announcements whilst never admitting when they go wrong. And although he's obviously not to everyone's liking, having Jamie Carragher call him a 'clown' on national TV 2 years ago was an embarrassment to the club whichever way you spin it.
With Mackintosh it's always difficult to work out what he's done right or wrong due to his cowardice and inability to take responsibility (probably intentionally), however the bottom line is he's the CEO and as Silva has said he is joint responsible for transfers and is known to drag them out. Not only that but he is also responsible for overseeing the increasingly astronomical costs that Fulham fans are being made to put up with. Whether it's on a matchday with inaccessible ticket prices, soon-to-be £6.80 pints of beer in plastic cups and laughably crap and expensive food, or replica shirts that cost as good as 90 quid with personalisation, everything is on an upward trajectory in terms of costs for the fans, whereas on the pitch we are stagnating and failing to capitalise on these opportunities to become a better, more stable club what with our new stand, strong support and prime London location and financial resources, and the matchday experience for fans outside the riverside is still broken toilets and obstructed views. As Archie Rhind-Tutt put it on the Fulhamish podcast the other week, the fans are being made to bear the costs of the hierarchy's own failures: a £20-30 difference in ticket price only equates to a couple of million a year, whereas we spent £10m in agents fees last year in the Championship. And all this during a cost-of-living crisis just reeks of tone deaf and general apathy about the club's true fans.
As for Shahid, I know he has his fans on here for his financial backing and up to a point I respect that. However what I cannot let slide is the total lack of holding the club's failures to account and a general lack of involvement in the club beyond perhaps a yearly visit and a ghostwritten end-of-year statement. In most businesses if your employees are wasting millions of pounds of your company's annual budget then heads roll, or at least severe restructuring takes place to ensure it doesn't happen again. The fact that his son for one is seemingly able to get away with multiple PR blunders and poor investments (not even to mention the academy, which, given the paltry fees we get for our players is basically useless) not only reeks of nepotism but also of a lack of engagement or interest in the club's affairs. So while on the one hand you could say it's generous that he's prepared to write off millions of pounds of debt to keep the club afloat, it sets a dangerous precedent, and raises concerns should he want to sell up eventually (don't forget he's not actually a Fulham man; he wanted Spurs first, and his ultimate goal is to buy Wembley and move the Jaguars there, so if that suddenly comes to fruition don't be surprised if daddy Khan's magic money tree suddenly disappears).
Sorry for the rant but these things need saying because the club cannot continue like this, and the sooner we as fans recognise this the better.
Quote from: alfie on July 31, 2022, 10:01:13 PM
What happened to the days when a player came one day and was in the team the next day, don't recall too many having problems.
They got replaced by the days of higher-quality, higher intensity football which necessitates a higher level of tactical integration and fitness.
It's one thing advising what you want and one thing acquiring those players. Many instances this close season of players or agents playing us off against other interests. Lets remember we are not a massive club and acquiring quality players is a challenge. it's easier getting Championship players but feel the club has a different target from previous years for EPL; however we are restricted with FFP regulations so unable to offer stupid money to acquisitions plus how we can offer to avoid discontent within the squad.
One area I do agree where we missed out is with Mee going to Brentford; it would have been a brilliant short term acquisition with leadership and experience in our back line.
Quote from: Motspur on July 31, 2022, 10:16:12 PM
It's one thing advising what you want and one thing acquiring those players. Many instances this close season of players or agents playing us off against other interests. Lets remember we are not a massive club and acquiring quality players is a challenge. it's easier getting Championship players but feel the club has a different target from previous years for EPL; however we are restricted with FFP regulations so unable to offer stupid money to acquisitions plus how we can offer to avoid discontent within the squad.
One area I do agree where we missed out is with Mee going to Brentford; it would have been a brilliant short term acquisition with leadership and experience in our back line.
If Nottingham Forest, Leeds, Brentford, Crystal Palace and Southampton plus Wolves and West Ham if you want to count them can all sign at least one CB before we can then there's no excuse really.
Clearly people didn't listen to what Silva actually said. We aren't ready. we have a small squad . we need more players. Wilson is out with a knee injury.
But he did say how hard everybody is working to bring players in. But they need to do it quicker. He didn't childishly blame individuals he simply stated the bleeding obvious and is a s frustrated as everybody is.
However the fans will blame the usual suspects because it is easy for them to do so. Silva never blamed anybody and mentioned people by name that he wasn't blaming anybody. But what he said wasn't shock news to anybody with an idea of what is needed to mount a survival push in the Prem.
Quote from: Lighthouse on July 31, 2022, 10:28:31 PM
Clearly people didn't listen to what Silva actually said. We aren't ready. we have a small squad . we need more players. Wilson is out with a knee injury.
But he did say how hard everybody is working to bring players in. But they need to do it quicker. He didn't childishly blame individuals he simply stated the bleeding obvious and is a s frustrated as everybody is.
However the fans will blame the usual suspects because it is easy for them to do so. Silva never blamed anybody and mentioned people by name that he wasn't blaming anybody. But what he said wasn't shock news to anybody with an idea of what is needed to mount a survival push in the Prem.
'Arrivals soon? "I expected they arrive in the beginning of the preseason, the first week of preseason second week of the preseason I hope they can arrive soon. I know that Alistair (Mackintosh) and Tony (Khan) are working on it."'
Don't know about you but that sounds like naming names to me. Even if he's not directly blaming them managers don't do that unless they're unhappy.
Quote from: Lighthouse on July 31, 2022, 10:28:31 PM
Clearly people didn't listen to what Silva actually said. We aren't ready. we have a small squad . we need more players. Wilson is out with a knee injury.
But he did say how hard everybody is working to bring players in. But they need to do it quicker. He didn't childishly blame individuals he simply stated the bleeding obvious and is a s frustrated as everybody is.
However the fans will blame the usual suspects because it is easy for them to do so. Silva never blamed anybody and mentioned people by name that he wasn't blaming anybody. But what he said wasn't shock news to anybody with an idea of what is needed to mount a survival push in the Prem.
Look at our FFP status and realise why we are not in a situation to be shelling out monies like other clubs as a result of our yo yo status and wasting money on earlier season transfers i.e Knockhaert and Cavaleirho; other established EPL clubs have more revenue to 'play' with plus most of their squads require less acquisitions. Forest hadn't spent much in previous seasons but acquired players via loans so have a bigger purse to use for acquisitions. Look at our finance and salaries paid even in the Championship to understand our FFP position; it's not only transfer fees that have to be considered.
Sorry not directed at your post but a previous one. I don't usually copy in earlier posts. 093.gif
Quote from: Motspur on July 31, 2022, 10:50:09 PM
Sorry not directed at your post but a previous one. I don't usually copy in earlier posts. 093.gif
If it's me you're trying to respond to then my response will be well the FFP limitations are a mess of our own. Case in point, two crap signings who we then failed to ship out, we've put ourselves in this predicament and are to blame for it. Maybe if we actually had some sustainability, i.e. sold players at a profit for once then we'd have more leeway
I imagine this is a knock on effect of a reputation that's built of lasting just one season in the premiership before getting relegated. Players are less inclined to want to join though it then becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.
That being said TK has historically been a difficult customer to deal with according to some reports so maybe that also plays a part. Definitely not different to his personality traits at times.
Massive dig at Tony and rightfully so. Marco won us the league and recruitment supporting that has been pathetic. Glad he's digging him out.
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Quote from: Blawarmy on July 31, 2022, 10:55:00 PM
Massive dig at Tony and rightfully so. Marco won us the league and recruitment supporting that has been pathetic. Glad he's digging him out.
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Not sure he's specifically digging out TK, but he's saying that for some reason they haven't got the job done as they should've.
This can be for a number of reasons- we've been relegated three times twice after automatic promotion. You can understand why players may be hesitant.
Quote from: General on July 31, 2022, 11:00:25 PM
Quote from: Blawarmy on July 31, 2022, 10:55:00 PM
Massive dig at Tony and rightfully so. Marco won us the league and recruitment supporting that has been pathetic. Glad he's digging him out.
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Not sure he's specifically digging out TK, but he's saying that for some reason they haven't got the job done as they should've.
This can be for a number of reasons- we've been relegated three times twice after automatic promotion. You can understand why players may be hesitant.
This is atrocious squad management whatever way you want to look at it. It's Tonys responsibility as DOF. That's where it stops.
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Quote from: General on July 31, 2022, 11:00:25 PM
Quote from: Blawarmy on July 31, 2022, 10:55:00 PM
Massive dig at Tony and rightfully so. Marco won us the league and recruitment supporting that has been pathetic. Glad he's digging him out.
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Not sure he's specifically digging out TK, but he's saying that for some reason they haven't got the job done as they should've.
This can be for a number of reasons- we've been relegated three times twice after automatic promotion. You can understand why players may be hesitant.
This is atrocious squad management whatever way you want to look at it. It's Tonys responsibility as DOF. That's where it stops.
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There are some deals that will be hard to do, and you have to deal with the fact that there will be more 'value' towards the end of the window, so if you blow your load too early there is a good chance you won't have the cash around to take advantage of a couple of opportunities and/or build the depth required. The fact is we need two CBs, if we overpay for one, it massively reduces our ability to get another of sufficient quality.
But the really unforgivable thing that I don't understand is that the deals seem to always be taking far longer than they should need to - all 4 of the people we signed have been reported as done deals at least a week before they were actually training with the team, and it's the same with Leno.
Still, if we sign those two CBs and pick up another LB, CM and attacker of PL quality it will have been a very, very good window.
Quote from: RogFFC on July 31, 2022, 06:15:51 PM
After watching today I think relegation is the only outcome, without 4 or 5 new players in pretty quickly. We were ok in places but Silva is dead right that we have ZERO depth. Any injuries and we are done.
Bobby Reid, Kebano, Harrison Reed and Ream are not up to it in the PL - all of who will likely be starting next weekend. Robinson looked weak defensively and Bryan is not adequate cover as we already know. If Mitro gets injured - we are absolutely f**ked.
Disappointing more than anything, we had a good base from last year and we really haven't built on it. Staggered that we haven't got at least one CB in. Silva rightly fuming. Got a feeling he'll have walked by the Christmas World Cup break.
Hi Rog from another Rog.
I have to disagree about Harrison Reed, with "that section" of the field 'almost covered' with Paulhino, Peraira etc,
Harrison is ideally suited and capable as the third midfielder/clogger/breaker up of attacks.
OK he doesn't score any goals, but he does his job very well, has a competitive nature, I even suggested him as
captain.
We've also got a good attacking and creative 'squad' Mitro, Wilson, Solomon, CAIRNEY, Kebano, Stansfield (looks at a similar stage
than Carvalho was) Blah blah
Hello Roger
Quote from: Blawarmy on July 31, 2022, 10:55:00 PM
Massive dig at Tony and rightfully so. Marco won us the league and recruitment supporting that has been pathetic. Glad he's digging him out.
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Not really. He's unhappy, yes. But bringing a player in isn't just about Tony Khan wishing it so. The player and the opposing team play just as much part, if not more than what amount of money Tony is sending out.
Our reputation as a yoyo club can't be helping the situation. And yes, TK has a part to play in that, but not solely him.
Quote from: Neutral Zone Ultra on July 31, 2022, 10:52:19 PM
Quote from: Motspur on July 31, 2022, 10:50:09 PM
Sorry not directed at your post but a previous one. I don't usually copy in earlier posts. 093.gif
If it's me you're trying to respond to then my response will be well the FFP limitations are a mess of our own. Case in point, two crap signings who we then failed to ship out, we've put ourselves in this predicament and are to blame for it. Maybe if we actually had some sustainability, i.e. sold players at a profit for once then we'd have more leeway
Agree, it was hard to see Elliot and Carvalho on the pitch in the "Shield" game
Minimal compensation
Blimey he don't look happy
Not sure why we let the likes of Seri and Hector etc go before we brought in replacements
Hope this interview don't rub the Khans the wrong way
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The fact Cav, Knock, Onomah and Kongolo have been frozen out makes no sense to me. Fair enough they aren't ideal and we need upgrades, but they have premier league (and some of them international) experience.
When we literally dont have enough players to field a full bench you'd think Silva would at least have them report to training.
Makes the "we have 16 senior players" ring a bit hollow.
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I agree with this opinion, especially with regard to Kongolo.
He's right to be upset. I know he says he's not blaming the transfer team, but if not them, then who? Heck, I'm upset. I live in California, and for the past two months the first thing I do when I wake up is check the Fulham transfer news only to be disappointed. But let me play devil's advocate for a moment. When Fulham cleared out the squad a few months back, I assumed it was to make room for all the new incoming talent the Fulham acquisition team had lined up and ready to go. Obviously, I was wrong. But who made the decision to let those players go before having replacements signed? Was that a MS decision? I'm not suggesting by any means that Mawson and Hector are PL-quality CBs, but when you let them go and then don't bring Kongolo on the pre-season trip, you announce to the world that Fulham is desperate at CB - since there is literally zero depth at the position. Is it any wonder every player, team, and agent are toying with Fulham?
Quote from: Lighthouse on July 31, 2022, 10:28:31 PM
Clearly people didn't listen to what Silva actually said. We aren't ready. we have a small squad . we need more players. Wilson is out with a knee injury.
But he did say how hard everybody is working to bring players in. But they need to do it quicker. He didn't childishly blame individuals he simply stated the bleeding obvious and is a s frustrated as everybody is.
However the fans will blame the usual suspects because it is easy for them to do so. Silva never blamed anybody and mentioned people by name that he wasn't blaming anybody. But what he said wasn't shock news to anybody with an idea of what is needed to mount a survival push in the Prem.
That is exactly how I interpreted what he said, but unfortunately we have an anti TK group on here who use every excuse to try to drag everyone down. The quality of player we have so far purchased compared to Forest are far better. We all know what we need but for some reason this year it seems most of the PL seem to want centre half's.
Quote from: bobby01 on August 01, 2022, 10:19:52 AM
Quote from: Lighthouse on July 31, 2022, 10:28:31 PM
Clearly people didn't listen to what Silva actually said. We aren't ready. we have a small squad . we need more players. Wilson is out with a knee injury.
But he did say how hard everybody is working to bring players in. But they need to do it quicker. He didn't childishly blame individuals he simply stated the bleeding obvious and is a s frustrated as everybody is.
However the fans will blame the usual suspects because it is easy for them to do so. Silva never blamed anybody and mentioned people by name that he wasn't blaming anybody. But what he said wasn't shock news to anybody with an idea of what is needed to mount a survival push in the Prem.
That is exactly how I interpreted what he said, but unfortunately we have an anti TK group on here who use every excuse to try to drag everyone down. The quality of player we have so far purchased compared to Forest are far better. We all know what we need but for some reason this year it seems most of the PL seem to want centre half's.
I do not think what you say is entirely correct in that silva was very cautious in what he said because he can hardly blame his bosses in the way slav did BUT maybe they are trying hard but management is about gett8ing results and for each of three promotions, we have failed in one way or another to get our purchasing correct. And seeing as marco mentioned alistair and Tony as the leading players in getting new players in, then the failure to succeed must be with them. If it was one player, like solomon with a very special circumstance, we understand that, but to have way to few players and no new centre backs, then this is a failure of the management team. In any other business the two of them would have been shown the door for the repeated failures in this respect. MAF would surely have replaced both of them years ago.
After those remarks selling clubs will realise we are now desperate for certain players and 20% will be added to transfer fees.
If they didn't know that we needed centre halves before that interview then the other clubs you speak of are in a much worse state than us. Its obvious to everyone, which is why the continual bleating about is so tedious.
Parker on Bournemouth:
"It's obviously clear that we barely have any defenders. We've lost eight at the start of the season, at this present time the squad is much weaker than when we got promoted. It's difficult. We need to work out what we want to be , how ambitious we want to be this year in terms of us and how competitive we want to be."
https://bournemouth-forum.vitalfootball.co.uk/threads/parkers-comments-today.16176/
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on August 01, 2022, 11:15:06 AM
Parker on Bournemouth:
"It's obviously clear that we barely have any defenders. We've lost eight at the start of the season, at this present time the squad is much weaker than when we got promoted. It's difficult. We need to work out what we want to be , how ambitious we want to be this year in terms of us and how competitive we want to be."
https://bournemouth-forum.vitalfootball.co.uk/threads/parkers-comments-today.16176/
Sounds eerily familiar.
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 01, 2022, 11:21:47 AM
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on August 01, 2022, 11:15:06 AM
Parker on Bournemouth:
"It's obviously clear that we barely have any defenders. We've lost eight at the start of the season, at this present time the squad is much weaker than when we got promoted. It's difficult. We need to work out what we want to be , how ambitious we want to be this year in terms of us and how competitive we want to be."
https://bournemouth-forum.vitalfootball.co.uk/threads/parkers-comments-today.16176/
Sounds eerily familiar.
It really does and I wasn't never overtly anti Parker when that particular division was tearing the board up.
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on August 01, 2022, 11:26:46 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 01, 2022, 11:21:47 AM
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on August 01, 2022, 11:15:06 AM
Parker on Bournemouth:
"It's obviously clear that we barely have any defenders. We've lost eight at the start of the season, at this present time the squad is much weaker than when we got promoted. It's difficult. We need to work out what we want to be , how ambitious we want to be this year in terms of us and how competitive we want to be."
https://bournemouth-forum.vitalfootball.co.uk/threads/parkers-comments-today.16176/
Sounds eerily familiar.
It really does and I wasn't never overtly anti Parker when that particular division was tearing the board up.
Same. Whilst I think I held reservations about him being our manager long term in Prem, I always thought he deserved a chance after getting us promoted. But that statement sounds line for line what he said when with us when we had more to deal with ie short pre season and earlier than usual start to season with more to do.
Eerily familiar
This is the THIRD time we have cocked up the squad preparation for the PL in 3 attempts
PPL / no time / difficult to pay - it's all so tedious
We are heading for the FOURTH relegation under the Khans
How disappointing
Those Bournemouth forums have mostly been at ease with what they have but that quote has sent them into a full meltdown and he must have known that would happen.
Its a strange tactic.
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on August 01, 2022, 11:32:49 AM
Those Bournemouth forums have mostly been at ease with what they have but that quote has sent them into a full meltdown and he must have known that would happen.
Its a strange tactic.
He knows they are getting relegated so is already trying to spin it so his media mates can blame the club and absolve him of any responsibility.
