He's lost since the BBC took "It's a Knockout" off their schedules. His commentary yesterday was just inept. Penalty was "6 of one half a dozen of the other" just simply wrong. Lerma initiated the contact by blocking Mitro, and then compounded the error by holding on to him and wrestling with him. Of course Mitro is going to try and escape Lerma's very firm grip on him. As Jenas pointed out, Lerma did not look at the ball and was only focused on stopping Mitro. Clear penalty. Then Pearce "Mitro won the penalty - I'll choose my words carefully on that". He is implying that Mitro cheated. What else was Mitro to do?
There was no mention of Fredericks ridiculous dive for the penalty. Yes there was a slight contact from Ream, (which wasn't Ream's finest moment by the way) after Richards had put his arm across Ream - Pearce did not see fit to mention the Oscar winning performance from Fredericks.
And no mention of the award of the corner when the Bournemouth's player flick clearly did not touch Robinson. That could have been a match-losing corner, but fortunately Leno made up for his initial mistake.
Ship Pearce off somewhere remote please.
Funny how they lap up Kane 'winning' penalties though.
Im sure the BBC have someone more appropriate for the modern audience lined up to replace Pearce.
Not a lover of BBC full stop and stuff like this sums up the network.
bbc is awful. not just the football highlights but all the garbage on regular tv. WHY do we have to pay (by law) to have this crap piped into our homes?
I was going to be crude....but it's Sunday
Quote from: Whitesideup on October 16, 2022, 08:39:25 AM
He's lost since the BBC took "It's a Knockout" off their schedules. His commentary yesterday was just inept. Penalty was "6 of one half a dozen of the other" just simply wrong. Lerma initiated the contact by blocking Mitro, and then compounded the error by holding on to him and wrestling with him. Of course Mitro is going to try and escape Lerma's very firm grip on him. As Jenas pointed out, Lerma did not look at the ball and was only focused on stopping Mitro. Clear penalty. Then Pearce "Mitro won the penalty - I'll choose my words carefully on that". He is implying that Mitro cheated. What else was Mitro to do?
There was no mention of Fredericks ridiculous dive for the penalty. Yes there was a slight contact from Ream, (which wasn't Ream's finest moment by the way) after Richards had put his arm across Ream - Pearce did not see fit to mention the Oscar winning performance from Fredericks.
And no mention of the award of the corner when the Bournemouth's player flick clearly did not touch Robinson. That could have been a match-losing corner, but fortunately Leno made up for his initial mistake.
Ship Pearce off somewhere remote please.
He is one of those annoying commentators who voice what they think rather than what they saw.
Quote from: hovewhite on October 16, 2022, 08:52:40 AM
Not a lover of BBC full stop and stuff like this sums up the network.
By the sounds of it they are becomming the equivilent of NBC and the match commentators (I use the term VERY loosely as they seem to comment on everything except whats happening on the pitch at the time), such are Arlo White et al, have nothing bad to say about Spuds, United or Liverpool (whom they swoon over), and never anything good to say about the likes of us, Arsenal, or any other team, except for Citeh, of course, to whom they appear more ambivilent, as their bias would show even more. As for the 'experts' they have accompanying them, the ex-players, I will stop there before I get in trouble!
Suddenly this thread has brought out all the BBC haters. I prefer Johnathan pierce to some of the sky commentators. But it is harder than you imagine.most of us couldn't do it anywhere near the standard of Johnathan Pierce. He's been doing it a long time and the reason is that he is good at it as for knocking the Beeb, it is a pleasure not to be bombarded with adverts and that is why I hope the Beeb goes on ad free forever
BBC is rubbish. I hate it.
Jonathan Pearce has never been good on Television. Should have stuck to radio commentary.
I don't think Pearce should be giving his opinions while commentating. His role is to commentate on the facts only. The opinions should come from the pundits who sit next to him eg Hoddle, Wright, Shearer or whoever they have that week. Although they too vary, at least they have some experience playing at a senior level to give some influence to their opinions.
Quote from: Whitesideup on October 16, 2022, 08:39:25 AM
He's lost since the BBC took "It's a Knockout" off their schedules. His commentary yesterday was just inept. Penalty was "6 of one half a dozen of the other" just simply wrong. Lerma initiated the contact by blocking Mitro, and then compounded the error by holding on to him and wrestling with him. Of course Mitro is going to try and escape Lerma's very firm grip on him. As Jenas pointed out, Lerma did not look at the ball and was only focused on stopping Mitro. Clear penalty. Then Pearce "Mitro won the penalty - I'll choose my words carefully on that". He is implying that Mitro cheated. What else was Mitro to do?
There was no mention of Fredericks ridiculous dive for the penalty. Yes there was a slight contact from Ream, (which wasn't Ream's finest moment by the way) after Richards had put his arm across Ream - Pearce did not see fit to mention the Oscar winning performance from Fredericks.
And no mention of the award of the corner when the Bournemouth's player flick clearly did not touch Robinson. That could have been a match-losing corner, but fortunately Leno made up for his initial mistake.
Ship Pearce off somewhere remote please.
He seemed massively biased towards Boscombe.
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Not sure why he is picked on. The whole level of commentators has dropped alarmingly. When more women were brought in people thought it was just box ticking. But most the Men are far worse at spotting incidents and all of them just spout the usual garbage and seem to support the usual suspects.
The fact that last weeks West Ham debacle and illegal goals has not been mentioned or highlighted more just makes me even more sure that they really don't have the insight or expertise of the old commentators.
Seems to enjoy doing Womens Football .
Let him stay there.
I've never liked him . For mainly reasons I can't put here . And as for his opinionated comments , we don't need them.
On the extended highlights on FFCTV, it has him commentating in the 1st half and Jim/Jamie on the 2nd. Haven't heard his comments on the Mitro pen but it was stonewall compared to the Bournemouth incicident in the 1st half which he claimed was a penalty because Ream grabbed at Fredericks. There is absolutely no way Ream's contact would have caused Fredericks to go down like that but evenJim and Jamie thought we had got away with one. Through my biased eyes both decisions were absolutely correct.
MOTD's coverage made it look like we were lucky to draw.
You'd never have known how much we dominated the second half. OK our final balls were poor but we were the team trying to win.
Quote from: Mullers75 on October 16, 2022, 04:25:07 PM
MOTD's coverage made it look like we were lucky to draw.
You'd never have known how much we dominated the second half. OK our final balls were poor but we were the team trying to win.
Yes, if I were a fan of theirs I'd be reasonably pleased with the draw but concerned by the last twenty minutes when they sat so deep & looked spent.
I always remember him getting in a right state over this incident in a France game at the 2014 World cup.
https://www.theguardian.com/football/gallery/2014/jun/15/world-cup-2014-world-cup-football
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/06/15/jonathan-pearce-goal-line-technology_n_5497142.html
Quote from: Andy S on October 16, 2022, 01:55:41 PM
Suddenly this thread has brought out all the BBC haters. I prefer Johnathan pierce to some of the sky commentators. But it is harder than you imagine.most of us couldn't do it anywhere near the standard of Johnathan Pierce. He's been doing it a long time and the reason is that he is good at it as for knocking the Beeb, it is a pleasure not to be bombarded with adverts and that is why I hope the Beeb goes on ad free forever
Though isn't the WHOLE point that the BBC cannot show adverts as they are mainly finances via public funding, and not only just public funding, but enforced public fuding whether one watches the BBC channel(s) or not.
Where else do we see this same type of funding in an open & competitive market?
To that end, then people should expect the BBC to either be able to provide content, and presenters, as good as any other broadcaster, or stop being funded by a public that too often appears to have been somewhat hostile to the manadotry fee for many years, and both the corporatio & it's staff live in the real world.
As for Johnathan Pierce, I don't know him and cannot say I recall ever hearing his commentary, but, with very much all respect, I would not expect any of us here to be as good as he is at his own, and not our, career, as I would not expect him to be at my level in my chosen career, but if I had to think of his competitors in the commentary circle for a comparison, then I feel his required level to be average isn't as high as we should expect in any case.
It felt to me the commentary was added later to the pictures . I remember from his capital gold days when he used to go on and on about Merson and his magic hat and all other nonsense . It's a low bar but prefer BT commentary generally .
And agreed on the point about how the game was shown. Cairney was voted man of the match but there was no evidence of How he changed the game in those highlights .
Could be mistaken, but I believe Pearce DOES add the commentary after the match.
All the MOTD commentary seems to be added after the match. Makes the commentators look like geniuses as they identify the goalscorer correctly each time etc.
Pearce I really detest. He's always had it in for certain teams. Liverpool in particular. Guess I can add Fulham to the list.
Quote from: HamsterWheel on October 17, 2022, 02:30:30 PM
All the MOTD commentary seems to be added after the match. Makes the commentators look like geniuses as they identify the goalscorer correctly each time etc.
Pearce I really detest. He's always had it in for certain teams. Liverpool in particular. Guess I can add Fulham to the list.
Think that is right or certainly edited after a game .
Commentators should not try to get inside player's heads since as psychiatrists will tell you it can be dangerous. I doubt Jonathan Pearce has a clue what goes on inside even his head let alone anyone else's.
I miss the commentaries that were descriptively accurate so much so that if you could get to see replays of the match you could identify the moments you heard described. It is a very long time ago since the major broadcasters hd quality in their coverage. These days the coverage is biased, often inarticulate, and largely served to please the kind of people the BBC would like to have lostening to them - there is a term for these people but I'll avoid writing it for the sake of moderation.
Sky had longer highlights on Sunday. Their commentary team thought the foul on Mitrovic a clear penalty due to Lerma's prolonged hold on Mitro and that he didn't look at the ball / freekick taker at all. I though it was very poor commentary from Pearce - if that's not a penalty then there are no fouls committed at corner/free kicks.
Sky and BBC didn't show the VAR check for a Bournemouth handball in the first half. Looked to clearly hit the outstretched arm in real-time - my assumption is VAR decided the arm was in a natural position (although I thought if you dive in and it hits an arm away from your body that is handball).
If you watch highlights on FFCTV Pearce for some reason does initial commentary. He says something along the lines of Pereira hasn't scored since his early Man Utd days totally forgetting he scored last week.
