Oce again I think there will be a lot of agreement on our line up for perhaps the toughest match of the season.
Leno
Tete Diop Ream Robinson
Reed Palhina
Periera
Wilson Willian
Mitro
Impact subs Cairney James
That's the team I'd start with and the XI I believe Marco will pick
I think BDR will start in place of Wilson but the rest I agree with.
Quote from: Thailand Mick on November 04, 2022, 12:26:53 PM
I think BDR will start in place of Wilson but the rest I agree with.
Bobby is suspended for tomorrow for yellow card accumulation.
Agree with the team selection. Based upon the so called experts there is no point in us showing up tomorrow. I really hope that we prove them wrong.
Quote from: St Eve on November 04, 2022, 12:39:00 PM
Agree with the team selection. Based upon the so called experts there is no point in us showing up tomorrow. I really hope that we prove them wrong.
Love to see their reaction to a Fulham clean sheet and a couple of Mitro worldies.
I can see that starting eleven.
Man City are very very good but worth remembering that they aren't unbeatable. They lost twice at home last year so whilst I'm not predicting an away win it's most definitely not an impossible task.
I'd give Mitro a break. Let him rest up for the United game. Have Vinicius throw himself about for 90 minutes when it's probably a tall order for us to get anything from it.
Quote from: Thailand Mick on November 04, 2022, 12:26:53 PM
I think BDR will start in place of Wilson but the rest I agree with.
I agree BDR would probably have started over Wilson had he not been suspended as Palhinha Colada (brilliant profile name, btw 👏🤣) pointed out.
Quote from: Hatch007 on November 04, 2022, 01:10:40 PM
Quote from: Thailand Mick on November 04, 2022, 12:26:53 PM
I think BDR will start in place of Wilson but the rest I agree with.
I agree BDR would probably have started over Wilson had he not been suspended as Palhinha Colada (brilliant profile name, btw 👏🤣) pointed out.
yes I missed that so I agree with the op team.
Quote from: Moussa Dembele the 3rd on November 04, 2022, 01:04:58 PM
I'd give Mitro a break. Let him rest up for the United game. Have Vinicius throw himself about for 90 minutes when it's probably a tall order for us to get anything from it.
That would be like taking to the pitch waving a white flag.
i'd expect to line up with what the OP mentioned, but wouldn't be overly surprised if Silva changed to a 5-3-2. He didn't do it in the FA Cup last year but that was much more of a free hit.
Tete
Diop
Tosin
Ream
Robinson
Reed
Pereira
Palhinha
Mitro
Willian
Quote from: filham on November 04, 2022, 04:20:10 PM
Quote from: Moussa Dembele the 3rd on November 04, 2022, 01:04:58 PM
I'd give Mitro a break. Let him rest up for the United game. Have Vinicius throw himself about for 90 minutes when it's probably a tall order for us to get anything from it.
That would be like taking to the pitch waving a white flag.
Exactly Filham!
Agree with the OP. We should always start our strongest team.
Quote from: Moussa Dembele the 3rd on November 04, 2022, 01:04:58 PM
I'd give Mitro a break. Let him rest up for the United game. Have Vinicius throw himself about for 90 minutes when it's probably a tall order for us to get anything from it.
No surrender
Quote from: Fulham 442 on November 04, 2022, 04:52:51 PM
Quote from: filham on November 04, 2022, 04:20:10 PM
Quote from: Moussa Dembele the 3rd on November 04, 2022, 01:04:58 PM
I'd give Mitro a break. Let him rest up for the United game. Have Vinicius throw himself about for 90 minutes when it's probably a tall order for us to get anything from it.
That would be like taking to the pitch waving a white flag.
Exactly Filham!
Agreed
I wouldn't play
Mitrovic , Reed or Tete as they have four yellow cards I would save them for the United match . Give mbabu , Cairney and Carlos a go it is a free hit .
I would rest Mitrovic.
I would personally not play Mitro, purely because he isn't 100% fit and after next weekend he's probably going to play a lot of minutes in a very small window which will aggravate his injury more if not healed by then, so with the aim of preventing him injuring himself any worse then I think keep him out of action for the only game that is considered a free hit all season isn't a daft idea. I also think a slightly more mobile Vinicius might help press a little better because any striker we put up top will do a lot of running tomorrow without seeing much of the ball. Before anyone calls me defeatist, City average 4 goals a game at home this season so it's not overly farfetched to assume we suffer a similar fate, which is no disrespect to where we are as a club considering the embarrasingly talented squad they have that is bankrolled by a oil state
Absolute tosh to rest our best players! What a joke! Southampton got a draw there last year and Palace beat them 2 0.
Of course it's highly probable we'll get tonked but we've got a chance.
If Mitro is not 100% fit then of course he should not play tomorrow and he should not play again until he has fully recovered, this includes world cup games.
If the City players are trying to avoid injury I'd bring on Duffy, Mbabu & Chalobah if we're trailing to make it interesting.
We will lose so let's rotate
Rodak
Mbabu Diop Duffy Tosin Robinson
Cairney Harris
Wilson. Vince. James
The OP team tomorrow as I think we always have a chance every game.
The only problem with the team law of averages says at least 1of the 4 on 4 bookings will get a yellow.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on November 04, 2022, 10:23:44 PM
We will lose so let's rotate
Rodak
Mbabu Diop Duffy Tosin Robinson
Cairney Harris
Wilson. Vince. James
"We will lose". Dear god.
Quote from: hovewhite on November 04, 2022, 10:34:11 PM
The OP team tomorrow as I think we always have a chance every game.
The only problem with the team law of averages says at least 1of the 4 on 4 bookings will get a yellow.
With respect i feel that worrying about something that may never happen will not achieve anything.
It is never an easy journey from the earth to the stars, but that journey you fear is hypothetical and is an error of judgement in my opinion.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on November 04, 2022, 10:23:44 PM
We will lose so let's rotate
Rodak
Mbabu Diop Duffy Tosin Robinson
Cairney Harris
Wilson. Vince. James
I wonder what the loyal traveling Fulham Supporters would think of your statement which contains a lack of morale fibre and nauseating to such an extent that if in the future i ever end up in the same bomb crater behind enemy lines with you, i recommend you find somewhere else to shelter.
May i suggest you absorb the following simple philosophy, " enjoy the ice cream while it is still on your plate ".
No need to rotate. Two games left until the World Cup. Full team out
It's a very interesting and tough question for Silva- what to do tomorrow? If you are a data analytics person, tomorrow is easy. Rotate the squad and give key players a rest. The numbers (for example, the ridiculous -850 odds on City) clearly show that tomorrow's match has incredibly low uncertainty. All the predictive models say that we will lose no matter what we do.
But life is a lot more than data analytics. Silva should think about fans (although that's probably not a big deal over a single match). He needs to consider his team's psyche- does he risk giving signals to the team that he doesn't really believe in them. Seems easy, right? Send a strong signal that we think we can win anything. And yet, turning away from a really bad bet and maximizing the advantage to us- resting before a much more winnable match vs MU might be the smartest way to maximize the club's point total in the league. Let's be honest- that's what matter most. But it sucks to not play to win.
Bottom line- I don't envy making this decision. I think it's one of the hardest of the season.
The main thing is that we are competitive and play well, which I am sure we will.
The players have had a week to rest since last game. They have 8 days until next game. There is zero reason to rotate anything at all. Zero. And that is even before taking into account that it is bad form to give up before a ball has been kicked. Hardly a winning mentality, is it?
Quote from: Sting of the North on November 05, 2022, 06:58:49 AM
The players have had a week to rest since last game. They have 8 days until next game. There is zero reason to rotate anything at all. Zero. And that is even before taking into account that it is bad form to give up before a ball has been kicked. Hardly a winning mentality, is it?
Absolutely correct and sends out a message to
players that they only need to try and win certain matches, and does not breed strength of character or any competitive resilience as strength does not come from winning alone, your troubles develop your strengths.
If you can overcome adversity that is strength.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on November 04, 2022, 10:23:44 PM
We will lose so let's rotate
Rodak
Mbabu Diop Duffy Tosin Robinson
Cairney Harris
Wilson. Vince. James
I recognise a coward by the back of his head as he runs from the battlefield.
Quote from: Kingjay81 on November 04, 2022, 06:27:41 PM
Absolute tosh to rest our best players! What a joke! Southampton got a draw there last year and Palace beat them 2 0.
Of course it's highly probable we'll get tonked but we've got a chance.
Agree, the next game is eight days away, plenty of time to recover and the yellow card problem will only be carried forward to the next game if avoided by missing this one.
Quote from: filham on November 04, 2022, 07:47:09 PM
If Mitro is not 100% fit then of course he should not play tomorrow and he should not play again until he has fully recovered, this includes world cup games.
Exactly this!
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on November 05, 2022, 09:36:51 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on November 04, 2022, 10:23:44 PM
We will lose so let's rotate
Rodak
Mbabu Diop Duffy Tosin Robinson
Cairney Harris
Wilson. Vince. James
I recognise a coward by the back of his head as he runs from the battlefield.
Retreating is a common tactic in war, it conceeds a battle (Man City Away) to freshen up to win the war (Staying Up). Besides putting those 2nd XI players into battle against Man City is the way to sort out the men from the boys.
Quote from: Milo on November 04, 2022, 05:53:38 PM
I would rest Mitrovic.
If Mitro is not available for next week should we say as he is not fit for club games he is not fit for World Cup games and refuse to release him?