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General Category => General Discussion => Topic started by: Ludlow Richard on November 28, 2022, 10:50:55 PM

Title: Home 3rd Round Draws
Post by: Ludlow Richard on November 28, 2022, 10:50:55 PM
I just felt tonight's draw confirmed that we never seem to get home 3rd round draws in the FA Cup; and the big clubs always do. So I've checked the 3rd round draws going back to 2000/01 when we drew Man Utd at home.

In fact, I was wrong. Of our 23 appearances in the 3rd round this century, we've been drawn at home in 13 of them, so over 50%. Surprisingly Man Utd have the same number of home 3rd round draws as us (13/23), as do Spurs. Both Liverpool and Arsenal have had fewer home draws than us, 10 and 11 respectively, while Man City have had 14 out of 23.

The real "winner" is Chelsea, with 17 home draws out of 23, including a sequence of 8 consecutive 3rd round home draws. So it's good to see them drawn away for once.

Title: Re: Home 3rd Round Draws
Post by: Jamie88 on November 29, 2022, 01:05:32 AM
Good work as usual Ludlow.

Be interesting to also see how often we have been drawn to either Premier League or Championship opposition in the 3rd round in the last twenty or so years too. I feel like we very rarely get a tie against a club from the lower leagues and it is always a 'boring' looking tie against a team like Hull!
Title: Re: Home 3rd Round Draws
Post by: SuffolkWhite on November 29, 2022, 07:36:23 AM
 A fair amount if all Prem ties, which is a good thing.
Title: Re: Home 3rd Round Draws
Post by: bencher on November 29, 2022, 07:59:21 AM
Quote from: Jamie88 on November 29, 2022, 01:05:32 AM
Good work as usual Ludlow.

Be interesting to also see how often we have been drawn to either Premier League or Championship opposition in the 3rd round in the last twenty or so years too. I feel like we very rarely get a tie against a club from the lower leagues and it is always a 'boring' looking tie against a team like Hull!

But we also have a bad habit of struggling against lower or non-league opposition. I remember with little fondness our home tie v Leigh RMI.
Title: Re: Home 3rd Round Draws
Post by: Ludlow Richard on November 29, 2022, 09:28:20 AM
Quote from: bencher on November 29, 2022, 07:59:21 AM
Quote from: Jamie88 on November 29, 2022, 01:05:32 AM
Good work as usual Ludlow.

Be interesting to also see how often we have been drawn to either Premier League or Championship opposition in the 3rd round in the last twenty or so years too. I feel like we very rarely get a tie against a club from the lower leagues and it is always a 'boring' looking tie against a team like Hull!

But we also have a bad habit of struggling against lower or non-league opposition. I remember with little fondness our home tie v Leigh RMI.

Since 2000/01 we have been drawn against lower league teams in the 3rd round on 13 occasions, so that is more than "very rarely". We have lost 3 of those 13 (Oldham, Bristol Rovers after a replay and on penalties, and Orient). Both the Oldham and Orient games were at home. The other 10 we obviously won, a few of these after replays.

Title: Re: Home 3rd Round Draws
Post by: Jamie88 on November 29, 2022, 09:53:04 AM
Quote from: Ludlow Richard on November 29, 2022, 09:28:20 AM
Quote from: bencher on November 29, 2022, 07:59:21 AM
Quote from: Jamie88 on November 29, 2022, 01:05:32 AM
Good work as usual Ludlow.

Be interesting to also see how often we have been drawn to either Premier League or Championship opposition in the 3rd round in the last twenty or so years too. I feel like we very rarely get a tie against a club from the lower leagues and it is always a 'boring' looking tie against a team like Hull!

But we also have a bad habit of struggling against lower or non-league opposition. I remember with little fondness our home tie v Leigh RMI.

Since 2000/01 we have been drawn against lower league teams in the 3rd round on 13 occasions, so that is more than "very rarely". We have lost 3 of those 13 (Oldham, Bristol Rovers after a replay and on penalties, and Orient). Both the Oldham and Orient games were at home. The other 10 we obviously won, a few of these after replays.



Sorry I should've clarified. By lower league in this respect I guess I am saying a team that is at least 2/3 tiers below us maybe? Because Hull is technically lower league for us at the moment but it's not exactly Sutton Utd.
Title: Re: Home 3rd Round Draws
Post by: filham on November 29, 2022, 10:32:46 AM
Hull is worse than the average away game it is in Yorkshire and at the same time almost in the North Sea.
Hard to think of a more difficult and less attractive fixture.
Would have been a lot happier with Forrest Green Rovers or Man.u. away.