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Title: Team For Tomorrow
Post by: filham on January 27, 2023, 09:42:51 AM
A difficult team selection as we need to rest players , give fringe players game time but also need to ensure a 5th round Cup place.

How about:-
                                                                            Rodak
                                                Mbabu          Tosin            Diop         Kurzawa
                                                              Cairney            Chalabah
                                                   James                                          Solomon
                                                                         Vinicius

I feel Mbabu has nlaed most of his limited game time out of position and deserves a full match at right back. We really don't want to risk Tete in this game .
Title: Re: Team For Tomorrow
Post by: SerbianLad on January 27, 2023, 09:55:59 AM
I wouldn't want to risk Tete either, but I highly doubt Marco will suddenly play Mbabu after not playing him at all for quite a long time.

I'd go for:
Rodak
BDR Tosin Duffy Kurzawa
Cairney Reed
James Wilson Solomon
Vinicius
Title: Re: Team For Tomorrow
Post by: twang on January 27, 2023, 09:57:04 AM
Think we've got a good shot at a decent cup run and therefore should go pretty much full strength. Also, next match is on Friday so plenty of time to recharge.

Rodak
Tete - Diop - Tosin - Kurzawa
Cairney - Palhinha
Wilson - Pereira - Solomon
Mitrovic

Vinicius steps in if Mitro isn't fully fit.
Title: Re: Team For Tomorrow
Post by: We Are Premier League on January 27, 2023, 09:58:29 AM
I think we should start with 11 players...

                                                                          Rodak
                                                Reid          Tosin            Diop         Kurzawa
                                                              Cairney            Reed
                                                   James              Wilson            Solomon
                                                                         Vinicius
Title: Re: Team For Tomorrow
Post by: filham on January 27, 2023, 10:14:14 AM
Quote from: We Are Premier League on January 27, 2023, 09:58:29 AM
I think we should start with 11 players...

                                                                          Rodak
                                                Reid          Tosin            Diop         Kurzawa
                                                              Cairney            Reed
                                                   James              Wilson            Solomon
                                                                         Vinicius
Yes thanks for the correction, I was dithering about who could fill that midfield attacking role and would agree that Wilson is well worth a try. However a rumour suggests that Wilson could be on the way out in which case perhaps we should give Luke Harris a game or fall back on BDR.
Title: Re: Team For Tomorrow
Post by: Surlyc on January 27, 2023, 10:18:42 AM
Rodak; BDR, Tosin, Diop, Kurzawa; Cairney, Reed, Harris; Wilson, Solomon, Vinicius.

I would like to see Harris get a start, with the likes of Mitrovic and Pereira on the bench should we need them. I don't want to underestimate Sunderland, but we really need to start showing our youngsters they are part of our plans rather than just benchwarmers behind the likes of Onomah/Chalobah.
Title: Re: Team For Tomorrow
Post by: Sting of the North on January 27, 2023, 10:20:58 AM
Quote from: twang on January 27, 2023, 09:57:04 AM
Think we've got a good shot at a decent cup run and therefore should go pretty much full strength. Also, next match is on Friday so plenty of time to recharge.

Rodak
Tete - Diop - Tosin - Kurzawa
Cairney - Palhinha
Wilson - Pereira - Solomon
Mitrovic

Vinicius steps in if Mitro isn't fully fit.

This is exactly the team I want. Keeping the core fairly intact gives a better chance for the others to actually show what they can do. And as you say, next game is on friday so the only reason to rest someone is if they have slight injury problems or similar. The team is also coming from two straight losses, so need the positive feeling of a win.

Some alternative options:
- could play Robinson from the start and give Kurzawa second half.
- Could switch Diop for Ream, as long as Tosin gets the game time.
- Will probably start Vinicius since Mitro is likely not fully fit (as you mentioned).
Title: Re: Team For Tomorrow
Post by: Slaphead in Qatar on January 27, 2023, 10:22:49 AM
i would play Leno.
Title: Re: Team For Tomorrow
Post by: TC's Sporran on January 27, 2023, 10:24:53 AM
i would play our strongest side barring mitro  for 20/ 30 mins ,  get 2-0 or 3-0 up then start making wholesale changes.

instead of the other way round where first teamers come on for the last 20/30 mins

but i place a massive importance on a cup run. marco will not.

Title: Re: Team For Tomorrow
Post by: Thailand Mick on January 27, 2023, 11:27:27 AM
I read Marco stating the Mitro is out injured and will be assessed for the Chelsea game.
Title: Re: Team For Tomorrow
Post by: Thailand Mick on January 27, 2023, 11:37:18 AM
Sunderland are going to be bouyed up after last week's result and feel they have nothing to lose. This is going to be a tough game and making too many changes often goes bad.

                                Rodak
           Tete.    Tosin         Diop. Kasawa
                        Reed.      Palhinha
                              Cairney
               Wilson.  Vinicious.  Soloman
                   
Title: Re: Team For Tomorrow
Post by: filham on January 27, 2023, 12:02:26 PM
Quote from: Thailand Mick on January 27, 2023, 11:27:27 AM
I read Marco stating the Mitro is out injured and will be assessed for the Chelsea game.
Mitro's injury problems seem to be on going, I wonder how many games he is going to be available for over the rest of the season. Essential we give a full 90 minutes to Vinicius against Sunderland to give him further match experience.
Title: Re: Team For Tomorrow
Post by: SerbianLad on January 27, 2023, 12:07:52 PM
Quote from: filham on January 27, 2023, 12:02:26 PM
Quote from: Thailand Mick on January 27, 2023, 11:27:27 AM
I read Marco stating the Mitro is out injured and will be assessed for the Chelsea game.
Mitro's injury problems seem to be on going, I wonder how many games he is going to be available for over the rest of the season. Essential we give a full 90 minutes to Vinicius against Sunderland to give him further match experience.
They are ongoing because players keep stomping on his not fully healed ankle. Dier and Ndidi did it in recent matches and so did Paqueta at the WC. It seemed deliberate on all occasions.

Furthermore, Vinicius has been playing quite well recently and deserves more minutes and I would have been happy if he played even if Mitro was fully fit (like I am happy when Rodak gets a chance in the cup).
Title: Re: Team For Tomorrow
Post by: Nick Bateman on January 27, 2023, 03:26:24 PM
I would give Tom Cairney a full game. He is the missing link in our midfield and Fulham have suffered without him. He was unlucky last time out slipping when he was about to play some defense-splitting passes, that I put down to rust (and the wrong studs, maybe). Vinicius has earned another run out as well. Main thing is Fulham take the FA Cup seriously, as Silva has a terrible record for dismissing it. On Talksport today Stan Collymore was suggesting Sunderland could provide a shock. Let's prove him wrong and go as far as we can in this highly respected historical competition.
Title: Re: Team For Tomorrow
Post by: hovewhite on January 27, 2023, 04:22:26 PM
Quote from: SerbianLad on January 27, 2023, 09:55:59 AM
I wouldn't want to risk Tete either, but I highly doubt Marco will suddenly play Mbabu after not playing him at all for quite a long time.

I'd go for:
Rodak
BDR Tosin Duffy Kurzawa
Cairney Reed
James Wilson Solomon
Vinicius
think that would be my eleven.
Title: Re: Team For Tomorrow
Post by: fulhamfan on January 27, 2023, 04:43:59 PM
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Title: Re: Team For Tomorrow
Post by: Southcoastffc on January 27, 2023, 05:05:59 PM
Quote from: fulhamfan on January 27, 2023, 04:43:59 PM
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I can not believe that Chalobah will start.  The team v Hull was

Rodak

BDR  Diop Tosin Kurzawa

TC Reed

Wilson  Pereira James

Vinicius

I expect pretty much the same again but Solomon either to start  (potentially instead of Pereira or Wilson) or be given significant minutes.
Title: Re: Team For Tomorrow
Post by: WhiteJC on January 27, 2023, 05:18:17 PM
I'd give a start to the "squad" and have a few of the younger players on the bench...

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Title: Re: Team For Tomorrow
Post by: Deeping_white on January 27, 2023, 05:34:21 PM
Somewhat shocked that so many people are advocating making so many changes - Sunderland are no mugs so if we want to take the FA cup seriously we should make no more than 3-4 changes from the XI that started against Spurs, and I would suggest most of those changes are attacking wise to give Wilson, Solomon and TC more minutes. We've got almost a week until our next game after this one so fitness and recovery time shouldn't be an issue for the usual starters
Title: Re: Team For Tomorrow
Post by: Tabby on January 27, 2023, 05:36:25 PM
Would like to see Solomon and Wilson get a shot to impress. Probably Kurzawa too. We need to get them all into match form and they could use a boost in confidence.
Title: Re: Team For Tomorrow
Post by: Jules on January 27, 2023, 05:41:39 PM
There is no way Mbabu will start. He is not in the plans at all.

I would go for:

Rodak
Tete
Kurzawa
Diop
Tosin
Reed
Cairney
Solomon
Wilson
BDR
Vinicius

Title: Re: Team For Tomorrow
Post by: cmg on January 27, 2023, 07:45:54 PM

Harris not with u21s tonight. He has played in the last few matches (and been on the bench the day after last time out). Maybe due some game time tomorrow.

[u21s currently 1-1 at Everton]
Title: Re: Team For Tomorrow
Post by: GuessWhosBack on January 27, 2023, 11:06:48 PM
I'd rather go through today and loose the next 2 league games .. so play as full as strength team as possible .. we will be safe but have no chance of Europe but a win tomorrow and a kind draw who knows.
Title: Re: Team For Tomorrow
Post by: Plodder on January 27, 2023, 11:58:07 PM
I am mystified as to why people always want us to rest players for the FA Cup, when they would not do the same if it was a Premier League game.  If any of our players genuinely need a break for this game, fair enough, but the same should apply to Friday's game at Chelsea.  It is five days since we last played, and another six days until we play after the FA Cup game. In terms of importance to the season, the FA Cup is the one competition we can still win.  It would take an unprecedented and calamitous drop in form for us to be relegated, so that is not a concern.  Why would we not give the FA Cup all we have?

However, Marco's comments at the press conference imply that he will not be fielding his best eleven.

Are any of our players other than Mitrovic ruled out by injury or suspension?  I notice hardly any of the proposed elevens above include Ream, Robinson, Palhinha or Willian.
Title: Re: Team For Tomorrow
Post by: DadCreature on January 28, 2023, 12:08:29 AM
Quote from: Plodder on January 27, 2023, 11:58:07 PM
I am mystified as to why people always want us to rest players for the FA Cup, when they would not do the same if it was a Premier League game.  If any of our players genuinely need a break for this game, fair enough, but the same should apply to Friday's game at Chelsea.  It is five days since we last played, and another six days until we play after the FA Cup game. In terms of importance to the season, the FA Cup is the one competition we can still win.  It would take an unprecedented and calamitous drop in form for us to be relegated, so that is not a concern.  Why would we not give the FA Cup all we have?

However, Marco's comments at the press conference imply that he will not be fielding his best eleven.

Are any of our players other than Mitrovic ruled out by injury or suspension?  I notice hardly any of the proposed elevens above include Ream, Robinson, Palhinha or Willian.
Given Marco plays only the very best on the squad game after game in the league, I think that it is fair for the Cup to be an opportunity for the squad depth to showcase themselves a bit.
Title: Re: Team For Tomorrow
Post by: Southcoastffc on January 28, 2023, 08:31:39 AM
Quote from: DadCreature on January 28, 2023, 12:08:29 AM
Quote from: Plodder on January 27, 2023, 11:58:07 PM
I am mystified as to why people always want us to rest players for the FA Cup, when they would not do the same if it was a Premier League game.  If any of our players genuinely need a break for this game, fair enough, but the same should apply to Friday's game at Chelsea.  It is five days since we last played, and another six days until we play after the FA Cup game. In terms of importance to the season, the FA Cup is the one competition we can still win.  It would take an unprecedented and calamitous drop in form for us to be relegated, so that is not a concern.  Why would we not give the FA Cup all we have?

However, Marco's comments at the press conference imply that he will not be fielding his best eleven.

Are any of our players other than Mitrovic ruled out by injury or suspension?  I notice hardly any of the proposed elevens above include Ream, Robinson, Palhinha or Willian.
Given Marco plays only the very best on the squad game after game in the league, I think that it is fair for the Cup to be an opportunity for the squad depth to showcase themselves a bit.
IMO it's very straightforward.  Once we hit 40 points (or whatever MS deems is league safety) then we'll play our strongest team in the cup - allowing  for any promises MS has made, e.g. Rodak will play in the cup.
Title: Re: Team For Tomorrow
Post by: filham on January 28, 2023, 12:07:33 PM
Quote from: Nick Bateman on January 27, 2023, 03:26:24 PM
I would give Tom Cairney a full game. He is the missing link in our midfield and Fulham have suffered without him. He was unlucky last time out slipping when he was about to play some defense-splitting passes, that I put down to rust (and the wrong studs, maybe). Vinicius has earned another run out as well. Main thing is Fulham take the FA Cup seriously, as Silva has a terrible record for dismissing it. On Talksport today Stan Collymore was suggesting Sunderland could provide a shock. Let's prove him wrong and go as far as we can in this highly respected historical competition.
This is one of those rare occasions when I agree with your every word Nick.
Would just add that I am looking forward to seeing 90 minutes of Cairney, that alone will make the price of the match ticket a bargain.
Title: Re: Team For Tomorrow
Post by: TC's Sporran on January 28, 2023, 02:08:49 PM
just ease up on the man love filham, or you will be tarred with the same brush as me lol

i cant wait to see him today and hope him and solomon link up and do good things