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Title: Team For Tomorrow
Post by: filham on February 10, 2023, 01:20:55 PM
The injury to Reed and Cairney is a blow, it makes an opening for new signing Lukic but i suspect he is not bedded in sufficiently to start.

                                                                       Leno
                                       Tete               Diop                 Ream          Robinson
                                                    BDR              Palhinha
                                       
                                           Solomon                 Periera              Williian

                                                                        Mitro

                       
Title: Re: Team For Tomorrow
Post by: Twig on February 10, 2023, 01:26:53 PM
That would be my choice (assuming Reed is injured) and with Lukic on the bench to come on if we need to change up the mid field. There are lots of decent alternatives however so it will be interesting what Marco chooses to do.
Title: Re: Team For Tomorrow
Post by: SerbianLad on February 10, 2023, 01:38:27 PM
If Reed and Cairney are unavailable I'd go for:
             Leno
Tete Diop Ream Robinson
    Pereira Palhinha
BDR Solomon Willian
          Mitrovic

Or BDR in the middle Solomon on the left, Willian on the right.

If one of those two is available then he starts alongside Palhinha, Pereira moves back to his place and Solomon goes to the bench.
Title: Re: Team For Tomorrow
Post by: Whitestone on February 10, 2023, 01:48:07 PM
If Reed is out I reckon Silva will give Lukic his debut. He's a quality player who was signed for decent money. He's been with the squad for 10 days so there really is no reason for him to given more time to adjust to his new surroundings.
Title: Re: Team For Tomorrow
Post by: Sting of the North on February 10, 2023, 01:53:01 PM
I believe Lukic starts if both Reed and TC are out. That way Silva keeps 10/11's of his preferred staring line up and doesn't need to play anyone out of their usual position. Personally don't think Solomon has shown enough to really push for a start yet. Looks a step too slow in the important moments so far. I'm sure he'll get there though before the season is over.

I don't think that both will miss the game though, and suspect therefore that we will never get to know what he would have done.
Title: Re: Team For Tomorrow
Post by: Deeping_white on February 10, 2023, 01:53:06 PM
Title: Re: Team For Tomorrow
Post by: ChesterTheTabby on February 10, 2023, 02:16:14 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on February 10, 2023, 01:53:06 PM


Of the two potential injuries, this is the better of the two outcomes.
Title: Re: Team For Tomorrow
Post by: Sting of the North on February 10, 2023, 02:28:41 PM
Quote from: ChesterTheTabby on February 10, 2023, 02:16:14 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on February 10, 2023, 01:53:06 PM


Of the two potential injuries, this is the better of the two outcomes.

To me it depends on how ready Silva considers Lukic to be. But I tend to agree, since we can start our usual lineup.
Title: Re: Team For Tomorrow
Post by: alfie on February 10, 2023, 02:35:47 PM
I see no reason why Luke's should not start.
Title: Re: Team For Tomorrow
Post by: S.F.Sorrow on February 10, 2023, 02:42:26 PM
Excellent news. Lukic in Cairney's role as an impact sub then. Cairney was outstanding against Sunderland but Reed is a more important player for us in the PL.
Title: Re: Team For Tomorrow
Post by: MickyAdamsFamily on February 10, 2023, 03:10:13 PM
I love BDR, he's a true Swiss Army Knife player, and has performed admirably wherever he's been asked to play. That said, if Marco feels Reed is not 100% and wishes to rest him, I feel that he will use Sasa Lukic, who has been brought in specifically for this purpose. BDR would be more suitable to replace Perriera.
Title: Re: Team For Tomorrow
Post by: filham on February 10, 2023, 03:58:20 PM
If Reed is available, and that means 100% fit, then he has to start in his usual position.

                                                                          Leno
                                                    Tete         Diop        Ream        Robinson
                                                                     
                                                               Reed                      Palhiha
                                                 BDR                    Periera                     Willian
                                   
                                                                             Mitro
           
               If we are struggling for a goal on the hour then Wilson or Solomon to replace BDR             
       
Title: Re: Team For Tomorrow
Post by: fulhamfever on February 10, 2023, 04:41:05 PM
Cairney's own fault that injury could of passed it to Mitro but decided to carry it on
Title: Re: Team For Tomorrow
Post by: General on February 10, 2023, 04:44:25 PM
Quote from: Whitestone on February 10, 2023, 01:48:07 PM
If Reed is out I reckon Silva will give Lukic his debut. He's a quality player who was signed for decent money. He's been with the squad for 10 days so there really is no reason for him to given more time to adjust to his new surroundings.

Think he'll stick with tried and tested, but I imagine we'll see Lukic on the bench and come on at some point. It actually works out well that Cairney is out as it gives Silva less excuses not to give him game time.

Lukic is fit and match fit too having played regularly at Torino so I don't think there'll be the issues he had with Kurzawa and Solomon (even solomon got on in the season opener vs Liverpool).
Title: Re: Team For Tomorrow
Post by: General on February 10, 2023, 04:53:51 PM
Quote from: filham on February 10, 2023, 03:58:20 PM
If Reed is available, and that means 100% fit, then he has to start in his usual position.

                                                                          Leno
                                                    Tete         Diop        Ream        Robinson
                                                                     
                                                               Reed                      Palhiha
                                                 BDR                    Periera                     Willian
                                   
                                                                             Mitro
           
               *If we are struggling for a goal on the hour then Wilson or Solomon to replace BDR*           
       

Surely you mean Kurzawa - he's our most prolific goalscorer recently...
Title: Re: Team For Tomorrow
Post by: Sting of the North on February 10, 2023, 05:08:51 PM
Quote from: General on February 10, 2023, 04:44:25 PM
Quote from: Whitestone on February 10, 2023, 01:48:07 PM
If Reed is out I reckon Silva will give Lukic his debut. He's a quality player who was signed for decent money. He's been with the squad for 10 days so there really is no reason for him to given more time to adjust to his new surroundings.

Think he'll stick with tried and tested, but I imagine we'll see Lukic on the bench and come on at some point. It actually works out well that Cairney is out as it gives Silva less excuses not to give him game time.

Lukic is fit and match fit too having played regularly at Torino so I don't think there'll be the issues he had with Kurzawa and Solomon (even solomon got on in the season opener vs Liverpool).

Do you honestly think Silva wouldn't just use the players he believes gives us the best chance to win?
Title: Re: Team For Tomorrow
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on February 10, 2023, 05:45:21 PM
Quote from: filham on February 10, 2023, 01:20:55 PM
The injury to Reed and Cairney is a blow, it makes an opening for new signing Lukic but i suspect he is not bedded in sufficiently to start.

                                                                       Leno
                                       Tete               Diop                 Ream          Robinson
                                                    BDR              Palhinha
                                       
                                           Solomon                 Periera              Williian

                                                                        Mitro

                       

Lukic does not need a bed? he should be ready for anything and he should be busting a gut to play.
He is allegedly an athlete.
Title: Re: Team For Tomorrow
Post by: TheCeiling on February 10, 2023, 05:47:48 PM
                                                                          Leno
                                       Tete               Diop                 Ream          Robinson
                                                                Reed             Palhinha
                                       
                                           Solomon                 Periera              Williian

                                                                           Mitro

This is our best firepower according to my own view (Solomon and Willian can change positions from time to time), I appreciate BDR and I think he's a real Swiss army knife, But as a winger Solomon offers more. With BDR I never feel he puts pressure on defenders. He often makes the 'right play' but barely creates anything of nowhere like Manor can. Also last game showed Manor can work a lot defensively as well. I'm running with him.

Would like to see Lukic getting minutes of the bench. Curios to see what player he is. Hopefully TC, BDR and Wilson can provide some spark off the bench. 

Let's go!!
Title: Re: Team For Tomorrow
Post by: WindyCity on February 10, 2023, 06:27:34 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on February 10, 2023, 05:45:21 PM
Quote from: filham on February 10, 2023, 01:20:55 PM
Lukic does not need a bed? he should be ready for anything and he should be busting a gut to play.
He is allegedly an athlete.

Thank you very much for posting that Woolly.  I do not discount the fact that this is a team sport and there is some benefit for players to know each others' capabilities and tendencies.  BUT, this whole notion of 'bedding in' or 'gelling' I think is way way way overblown and too much is made of it, and sometimes can be used as a built in excuse.  These guys are pro athletes and, if fit, should be able to be 'plugged in' to action.  JMHO
Title: Re: Team For Tomorrow
Post by: RaySmith on February 10, 2023, 06:39:28 PM
Quote from: WindyCity on February 10, 2023, 06:27:34 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on February 10, 2023, 05:45:21 PM
Quote from: filham on February 10, 2023, 01:20:55 PM
Lukic does not need a bed? he should be ready for anything and he should be busting a gut to play.
He is allegedly an athlete.

Thank you very much for posting that Woolly.  I do not discount the fact that this is a team sport and there is some benefit for players to know each others' capabilities and tendencies.  BUT, this whole notion of 'bedding in' or 'gelling' I think is way way way overblown and too much is made of it, and sometimes can be used as a built in excuse.  These guys are pro athletes and, if fit, should be able to be 'plugged in' to action.  JMHO

Good points, and he's been training with the  squad for several days now, and I trust Marco and Boa, and the qualified coaches and physios, etc., they have available, to  make an informed decision on whether or not the bloke is ready to play in the forthcoming game.

Only one player, in a midfield position, a bit different than bringing a number of new players and sticking them in the team immediately, and if he is a good, and experienced, as  he's said to be, he should be able to adapt to our system of play quickly.
Title: Re: Team For Tomorrow
Post by: filham on February 10, 2023, 06:56:42 PM
Quote from: TheCeiling on February 10, 2023, 05:47:48 PM
                                                                          Leno
                                       Tete               Diop                 Ream          Robinson
                                                                Reed             Palhinha
                                       
                                           Solomon                 Periera              Williian

                                                                           Mitro

This is our best firepower according to my own view (Solomon and Willian can change positions from time to time), I appreciate BDR and I think he's a real Swiss army knife, But as a winger Solomon offers more. With BDR I never feel he puts pressure on defenders. He often makes the 'right play' but barely creates anything of nowhere like Manor can. Also last game showed Manor can work a lot defensively as well. I'm running with him.

Would like to see Lukic getting minutes of the bench. Curios to see what player he is. Hopefully TC, BDR and Wilson can provide some spark off the bench. 

Let's go!!
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I like your line up with real attacking wide men but up to now Silva has preferEd to star with BDR in that wide right position ,no doubt for his work rate and defensive abilities. I think he will persist with this policy and who are we to say he is wrong. I suppose a lot depends on the ability of the Forest wide right player.
Title: Re: Team For Tomorrow
Post by: McBrideOfFrankenstein on February 10, 2023, 09:01:03 PM
I hope we see Lukic.
Title: Re: Team For Tomorrow
Post by: SP on February 10, 2023, 09:04:04 PM
Quote from: McBrideOfFrankenstein on February 10, 2023, 09:01:03 PM
I hope we see Lukic.

More likely to be sat next to Hugh on the Cottage balcony tomorrow?
Title: Re: Team For Tomorrow
Post by: filham on February 10, 2023, 10:19:31 PM
Quote from: McBrideOfFrankenstein on February 10, 2023, 09:01:03 PM
I hope we see Lukic.
Until we see him we can't really make judgements on him, at the beginning of the season some of us were putting our faith in Mbabu without having seen much of him, how misguided that was.
Lets hope we are 3-0 up at half time tomorrow and Lukic comes of the bench for the last 15 minutes.
Title: Re: Team For Tomorrow
Post by: hovewhite on February 11, 2023, 10:20:44 AM
Think it will be our normal line up,lukic on bench with Soares.