Brede or Timmy ?
Tough one but I'll go Timmy purely cos he's stayed with us through thick and thin
As much as I love Tim at this moment, Brede did it year in year out for us.
That's an easy one. Brede, no question.
Brede no question
Not a valid question. Brede all day.
Yeah, Brede. Tim doesn't come close in reality. One PL season and a few in the champ don't compare to saving us from PL relegation, top 7th finish and europa league final. Chalk and cheese. And also. Jangeland had a few suitors at the time and chose to stay, similar to Schwarzer, both of whom have mentioned since.
Quote from: General on February 19, 2023, 12:07:26 AM
Yeah, Brede. Tim doesn't come close in reality. One PL season and a few in the champ don't compare to saving us from PL relegation, top 7th finish and europa league final. Chalk and cheese. And also. Jangeland had a few suitors at the time and chose to stay, similar to Schwarzer, both of whom have mentioned since.
And Brede jumped ship the
Quote from: Count Flapula on February 19, 2023, 12:06:08 AM
Not a valid question. Brede all day.
When answering questions I'd appreciate an IMO at the end of it please
Hangeland my favourite ever Fulham player. Ream may just be 2nd
Brede and it's not even close.
Tim is more Aaron Hughes than Brede
IMO the more appropriate question would be Hughes or Ream. I would correlate Diop's role to
Hangeland's and Ream's to Hughes. For one single season it's a tough call but Tim's current season is probably better than any single season Hughes had but there could be recency bias in that opinion. For the entire body of Premier League play I'd have to pick Hughes.
Quote from: perry geyton on February 19, 2023, 12:20:04 AM
Quote from: General on February 19, 2023, 12:07:26 AM
Yeah, Brede. Tim doesn't come close in reality. One PL season and a few in the champ don't compare to saving us from PL relegation, top 7th finish and europa league final. Chalk and cheese. And also. Jangeland had a few suitors at the time and chose to stay, similar to Schwarzer, both of whom have mentioned since.
And Brede jumped ship theQuote from: Count Flapula on February 19, 2023, 12:06:08 AM
Not a valid question. Brede all day.
When answering questions I'd appreciate an IMO at the end of it please
Jumped ship? He left to Palace, having been frozen out at the club by magath and meulesteen. Still ashamed by the way he left and the way the club acknowledged his departure with the pithiest of articles saying he'd left. Barely acknowledged anything he'd done for us.
https://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2014/june/03/hangeland-departs
Players have dome far less for us and been given much more air time than this, which considering he was our captain in one of our most successful periods is quite something.
Both fantastic servants to our club,different attributes so can't really compare in my opinion
Quote from: General on February 19, 2023, 05:04:42 AM
Quote from: perry geyton on February 19, 2023, 12:20:04 AM
Quote from: General on February 19, 2023, 12:07:26 AM
Yeah, Brede. Tim doesn't come close in reality. One PL season and a few in the champ don't compare to saving us from PL relegation, top 7th finish and europa league final. Chalk and cheese. And also. Jangeland had a few suitors at the time and chose to stay, similar to Schwarzer, both of whom have mentioned since.
And Brede jumped ship theQuote from: Count Flapula on February 19, 2023, 12:06:08 AM
Not a valid question. Brede all day.
When answering questions I'd appreciate an IMO at the end of it please
Jumped ship? He left to Palace, having been frozen out at the club by magath and meulesteen. Still ashamed by the way he left and the way the club acknowledged his departure with the pithiest of articles saying he'd left. Barely acknowledged anything he'd done for us.
https://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2014/june/03/hangeland-departs
Players have dome far less for us and been given much more air time than this, which considering he was our captain in one of our most successful periods is quite something.
That announcement really was diabolical. Arguably one of our best ever players, certainly in the last 40 years.
Different players brede best CH signing I've seen no contest better to judge Diop in years to come against him.
Quote from: mrmicawbers on February 19, 2023, 06:13:52 AM
Both fantastic servants to our club,different attributes so can't really compare in my opinion
Correct Answer.
I think those who just say " no contest" are being disrespectful to Tim and it's a bit of a dismissive response. To my mind the form Tim has shown this season is as good and dare I say it, arguably better than Brede. However Brede performed consistently at these levels for several seasons in the top flight whereas Tim hasn't. For that reason it has to be Brede, but for his form in last season's promotion side and this wonderful season in the Prem Tim should be remembered as one of our all time top CB's.
I think it's more about the centre back pair, Brede wouldn't have been anywhere near as good without Aaron they were "the Thames Barrier". Tim is having an exceptional, and unexpected, season wether with Diop or Tosin as a partner
I couldn't choose between them
Brede Hangeland was a mainstay of our defence in the top flight for six or seven seasons, whereas Tim has played several seasons in the Championship. Brede consistently performed in the Premier League and was coveted by Arsenal.
It's very easy to come to the conclusion that a current player is better than a predecessor with the passage of time and a pair of rose tinted glasses. Tim is having an unbelievable season, which is easily on a par with Hangeland's performances, but he hasn't shown the same consistency over the entirety of his time at the club, certainly in the early days.
So it's Hangeland for me but I'm sure we can all agree that both players are Fulham legends.
It is all opinions I know but all players from the past never have to compete against today's crop. They were good in their time as are players of today
Quote from: perry geyton on February 19, 2023, 12:20:04 AM
Quote from: General on February 19, 2023, 12:07:26 AM
Yeah, Brede. Tim doesn't come close in reality. One PL season and a few in the champ don't compare to saving us from PL relegation, top 7th finish and europa league final. Chalk and cheese. And also. Jangeland had a few suitors at the time and chose to stay, similar to Schwarzer, both of whom have mentioned since.
And Brede jumped ship theQuote from: Count Flapula on February 19, 2023, 12:06:08 AM
Not a valid question. Brede all day.
When answering questions I'd appreciate an IMO at the end of it please
Brede got released against his will, there are a few Hangeland interviews where he says this.
Tim playing out of his skin at the moment, but has to be Brede for me - that European run is still our greatest achievement as a club and he was unbelievably good throughout it.
Tim negotiating his new contract minus an agent definitely raised my perception of him more then ever
Quote from: MayoDomo on February 18, 2023, 11:48:44 PM
As much as I love Tim at this moment, Brede did it year in year out for us.
I could have sworn Tim's been doing it year after year aswell, infact way more years then Brede.
Yes there was a couple of dodgy seasons but that was more due to who he was playing alongside, especially in the midfield
Quote from: perry geyton on February 19, 2023, 05:23:29 PM
Quote from: MayoDomo on February 18, 2023, 11:48:44 PM
As much as I love Tim at this moment, Brede did it year in year out for us.
I could have sworn Tim's been doing it year after year aswell, infact way more years then Brede.
Yes there was a couple of dodgy seasons but that was more due to who he was playing alongside, especially in the midfield
No, Ream hasn't been doing it year in year out. He's performed well in the Championship but he hasn't when he played in the PL. To be fair, you could argue this is due to players around him etc, I think it's got more to do with the fact that Ream has stepped him this season. The fact is, Hangeland was a top quality PL defender, and Ream has had a single great season so far in the PL. I would want to see Ream play another season at this level, and I would also want to see him leave the club/retire before making a decision. I also think it's unfair to compare the two- it would be better to compare Ream to Aaron Hughes
Remember that time where Arsenal cam sniffing around for Tim Ream but he decided he wanted to stay at Fulham.
No me neither..
I am sure there are many sporting people who would wish their careers and their fitness levels were without end and unaffected by age. Of course it would make GOAT a pretty much redundant 'news' article where generation x versus generation y is played out in real time instead of on paper. Ream has been a favourite of mine since he arrived from Bolton but it is still nice to read all the positive stuff about him this season. I also hope some of his professionalism rubs off on others in the various FFC squads.
A Brede - Tim partnership might have been very interesting - how about thirty PL games without conceding a goal ... and counting ... (not to mention all the other potential partnerships we could have seen up close and personal)
Did Brede always play with better players around him, in better organised Fulham sides, than Tim has for much of his Fulham career?
Roy signed Brede - I witnessed his debut on a freezing night up at Bolton, when he helped us to a clean sheet in the 0-0, a precious away point that maybe symbolised us turning the corner, and bringing off an almost miraculous Prem survival-
but he had the benefit of a side with Roy's level of defensive organisation, and generally playing alongside better players; while Tim hasn't always had this at Fulham, but maybe does now - well, he's become something of an attacking cb!
Impossible to choose between them, I think, both brilliant for Fulham - rightly club legends.