Thank god it never happened 🙏
Happened so long ago but this still winds me up big time.
So depressed that day just could not believe it.
Brilliant posting, was before my time. I had no idea it was so close to happening, but clearly it was.
We got away with it, thankfully.
It f@cking infuriates me to this day that Wimbledon didn't. Absolutely infuriates me.
My word. Mary Doughty in that clip. She was like a surrogate football mum to all the youngsters (me included)
She was quite something. Anyone on here remember her?
People often say they knew where they were when a momentous event happened. It is always obvious to me. You were by a radio or tv. But for this I could tell you what I was doing, what I thought and where I went the day and weeks after. It was such a traumatic, unfair event. That it highlighted many things in life not just for Fulham. It showed how easily something that we dedicate time and money to can just be taken away.
It went a long way to making me the cynical and distrustful person I became. It soured football and it made me forever wary of things outside of my control that can totally change my life. Thankfully there are great memories that followed in the battle to stop it.
But I am not sure many of us will ever be as comfy or dedicated to anything after the shock of the news.
Thanks to Jimmy Hill and the Muddymans
And Tom Wilson
Think that game clip was against Walsall whose supporters were fantastic.
What depressing times they were. One newspaper even printed a league table without us in it. A big thankyou to all those who were instrumental in saving us.
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Quote from: Lighthouse on March 02, 2023, 10:39:20 PM
It went a long way to making me the cynical and distrustful person I became. It soured football and it made me forever wary of things outside of my control that can totally change my life. Thankfully there are great memories that followed in the battle to stop it.
Life experiences do that to you and teach you to be wary and suspecting rather than simply accept what you are being told. It is unfortunate but it makes you less susceptible to being hoodwinked or ripped off.
Quote from: 70sPimlico on March 02, 2023, 10:32:37 PM
My word. Mary Doughty in that clip. She was like a surrogate football mum to all the youngsters (me included)
She was quite something. Anyone on here remember her?
Yes, real FFC stalwarts. There's other faces I recall there, including a guy called Sammy (I think) who went on to be a steward.
Loved seeing the guys enjoying the unexpected free lunch.
I remember Sammy. Stewarded in the Stevenage Rd stand. All of a sudden just disappeared.
Back page splash in the Sun... Haynes Weeps For The Club He Loves... had it on my office wall...
Quote from: 70sPimlico on March 02, 2023, 10:32:37 PM
My word. Mary Doughty in that clip. She was like a surrogate football mum to all the youngsters (me included)
She was quite something. Anyone on here remember her?
Yes a real Fulham legend, Fulham written all the way through her like a stick of rock,
everybody seemed to know her.
I can remember Mary on the trains as far back as the 50s/60s if my memory serves me correctly.
Even comes back just as vividly as it was. What a sad day? I remember being on the pitch protesting with my young son. The barriers were still in place to stop supporters entering the pitch. The stewards just opened the gates and let us on. When the players came out for the second half I remember the supporters applauding us. We were all asked to leave the pitch and we did there was no trouble. I think we all had tears in our eyes. I remember the banners all around the ground saying things like Clay Rapes (previous Chairman) Bulstrode murders (chairman at time of announcement) people felt physically sick. We were so lucky that Marler estates went skint and passed it onto Cadbra who also went and Barclays Bank became the owners. They in turn did a deal with the Muddyman family and Jimmy Hill the Muddyman family got an offer from Mohamed Al Fyad and the rest is history as they say
It was so close to being a done deal, thank goodness that Bulstrode's company finances weren't in much better shape than Clay's. Also credit to Hammersmith Council who helped our cause during those dark days.
Two things, aside from personalities, that saved Fulham were the property crash and the level of media and public awareness (due to status then and historically). If you look at the late 70s and 80s it was an absolute graveyard for London non-league clubs beset by asset strippers and property sharks. In that period football lost (club / ground or both):-
Leytonstone
Walthamstow Avenue
Southall
Enfield
Romford
Ilford
Hillingdon Borough
Wealdstone
Dulwich Hamlet
It had good TV coverage up in Glasgow, where I was living at the time - my wife is from there, and her family members, all Celtic through and through, were coming up to me saying they'd watched it, and what great fans we had, and they hoped we managed to survive.
Quote from: Wolf on March 03, 2023, 10:02:55 AM
Two things, aside from personalities, that saved Fulham were the property crash and the level of media and public awareness (due to status then and historically). If you look at the late 70s and 80s it was an absolute graveyard for London non-league clubs beset by asset strippers and property sharks. In that period football lost (club / ground or both):-
Leytonstone
Walthamstow Avenue
Southall
Enfield
Romford
Ilford
Hillingdon Borough
Wealdstone
Dulwich Hamlet
Southall's Western Road ground was still there until relatively recently. Hayes another one gone too, albeit again much later
When the potential merger was first announced the BBC London sports presenter Michael Wale finished the article with the line "I can't wait to receive my new club tie". I almost threw something at the television.
Quote from: Lighthouse on March 02, 2023, 10:39:20 PM
People often say they knew where they were when a momentous event happened. It is always obvious to me. You were by a radio or tv. But for this I could tell you what I was doing, what I thought and where I went the day and weeks after. It was such a traumatic, unfair event. That it highlighted many things in life not just for Fulham. It showed how easily something that we dedicate time and money to can just be taken away.
It went a long way to making me the cynical and distrustful person I became. It soured football and it made me forever wary of things outside of my control that can totally change my life. Thankfully there are great memories that followed in the battle to stop it.
But I am not sure many of us will ever be as comfy or dedicated to anything after the shock of the news.
I recall that day as though it was yesterday - where I was, what I was doing. Never forget David Dein's words - 'there is no place in football for little clubs like Fulham'. Similarly I can remember exactly where I was when I saw the back page of the Standard announcing Al Fayed's takeover.
Quote from: SG on March 03, 2023, 11:59:25 AM
Quote from: Lighthouse on March 02, 2023, 10:39:20 PM
People often say they knew where they were when a momentous event happened. It is always obvious to me. You were by a radio or tv. But for this I could tell you what I was doing, what I thought and where I went the day and weeks after. It was such a traumatic, unfair event. That it highlighted many things in life not just for Fulham. It showed how easily something that we dedicate time and money to can just be taken away.
It went a long way to making me the cynical and distrustful person I became. It soured football and it made me forever wary of things outside of my control that can totally change my life. Thankfully there are great memories that followed in the battle to stop it.
But I am not sure many of us will ever be as comfy or dedicated to anything after the shock of the news.
I recall that day as though it was yesterday - where I was, what I was doing. Never forget David Dein's words - 'there is no place in football for little clubs like Fulham'. Similarly I can remember exactly where I was when I saw the back page of the Standard announcing Al Fayed's takeover.
I can't say what I would like to say about Dein.
I too remember about the Fayed announcement and coincidentally was working with a fellow Fulham fan that day and speaking to him about winning the lottery and ploughing our money into Fulham.
I knew somebody who was part of a consortium approached by Fulham to take over. He obviously conceded that Fulham were much better off with Fayed.
Quote from: SP on March 03, 2023, 08:10:55 AM
Quote from: 70sPimlico on March 02, 2023, 10:32:37 PM
My word. Mary Doughty in that clip. She was like a surrogate football mum to all the youngsters (me included)
She was quite something. Anyone on here remember her?
Yes, real FFC stalwarts. There's other faces I recall there, including a guy called Sammy (I think) who went on to be a s
Loved seeing the guys enjoying the unexpected free lunch.
Yes Sammy Mackay, sadly no longer with us.
He was a great supporter for years home and away.
That was just about rock bottom but somehoe we reslowly,very slowly recovered, We have so much to thank a lot of people for, particularly Jimmy Hill.
Not everybody was pulling in the same direction at the time.But in general it Re energised the Club and galvanised the fans.
I echo so many of the points made above. It was a horrible time to be supporting Fulham. There were other stalwarts (in addition to those mentioned above) such as Allan Gould, Melvin Tanner, all those involved in Fulham 2000, and so many more. We came so close to losing Fulham FC (the genuine article, not the ersatz alternatives of Fulham Park Rangers or Fulham FC playing at someone else's ground). I try to think about the positives, and not to dwell on things like Dein's nasty comments. The attitude of the Walsall fans towards our plight when we protested peacefully at half time was superb, and I wish more people knew about that.
Quote from: Plodder on March 04, 2023, 02:12:52 PM
I echo so many of the points made above. It was a horrible time to be supporting Fulham. There were other stalwarts (in addition to those mentioned above) such as Allan Gould, Melvin Tanner, all those involved in Fulham 2000, and so many more. We came so close to losing Fulham FC (the genuine article, not the ersatz alternatives of Fulham Park Rangers or Fulham FC playing at someone else's ground). I try to think about the positives, and not to dwell on things like Dein's nasty comments. The attitude of the Walsall fans towards our plight when we protested peacefully at half time was superb, and I wish more people knew about that.
Agree, Walsall fans were superb that day.
Quote from: 70sPimlico on March 02, 2023, 10:32:37 PM
My word. Mary Doughty in that clip. She was like a surrogate football mum to all the youngsters (me included)
She was quite something. Anyone on here remember her?
One of Fulham's greatest fans.
Quote from: Motspur Park on March 03, 2023, 12:41:01 PM
Quote from: SG on March 03, 2023, 11:59:25 AM
Quote from: Lighthouse on March 02, 2023, 10:39:20 PM
People often say they knew where they were when a momentous event happened. It is always obvious to me. You were by a radio or tv. But for this I could tell you what I was doing, what I thought and where I went the day and weeks after. It was such a traumatic, unfair event. That it highlighted many things in life not just for Fulham. It showed how easily something that we dedicate time and money to can just be taken away.
It went a long way to making me the cynical and distrustful person I became. It soured football and it made me forever wary of things outside of my control that can totally change my life. Thankfully there are great memories that followed in the battle to stop it.
But I am not sure many of us will ever be as comfy or dedicated to anything after the shock of the news.
I recall that day as though it was yesterday - where I was, what I was doing. Never forget David Dein's words - 'there is no place in football for little clubs like Fulham'. Similarly I can remember exactly where I was when I saw the back page of the Standard announcing Al Fayed's takeover.
I can't say what I would like to say about Dein.
I too remember about the Fayed announcement and coincidentally was working with a fellow Fulham fan that day and speaking to him about winning the lottery and ploughing our money into Fulham.
I knew somebody who was part of a consortium approached by Fulham to take over. He obviously conceded that Fulham were much better off with Fayed.
Dien, one of the biggest sh#ts ever to be involved in football. I hope hope City beat Arse to the title.
Agree about comments on Dein, despicable apology of a human being... but what goes round comes round, as Clay and Bulstrode found out...
Quote from: Marcus on March 05, 2023, 08:56:18 AM
Agree about comments on Dein, despicable apology of a human being... but what goes round comes round, as Clay and Bulstrode found out...
Bulstrode snuffed it with a smile on his face 😈
I remember finding out at work when someone showed me the back page of a red top and being so depressed because it appeared to be a done deal and there was nothing to be done to stop it. Clearly I underestimated the will of Jimmy Hill, the Muddymans and others.
I remember Sammy from away games and he was the steward who opened the gate I went through onto the pitch at the Walsall game. Always wondered why he became a steward as he seemed an unlikely candidate, but that day it all became clear. Trojan horse. And I've always had a soft spot for Walsall since then. Their supporters were magnificent - they were riding high in the division, with Trevor Christie banging the goals in, but I think we sneaked a 2-2 draw with a Leo Donnellan equaliser?
I also remember leaving work so early to queue up for the Hammersmith Town Hall meeting that I ended up in the third row. My memory is a bit vague, but I remember 7 or 8 being on the stage, but can only remember 3 - Dein far left saying this is progress and you can't stop it, Bobby Robson in the middle sitting on the fence (and I never had any time for the 'Saint Bobby' stuff after that) and Jimmy Hill far right being the only person against it.
Was anyone else there at Hammersmith Town Hall, have I remembered correctly and can anyone fill in the gaps on who else was on the stage that night and what they said?
I came over from New York for the Walsall game and the half time protest. Remember thinking how the hell am I getting over the fence with all the stewards and police around. Of course in true Fulham style they just opened the gates. My Fulham 2000 tablet is still displayed with pride in my house
My Fulham 2000 pottery Craven Cottage still has a pride of place in my home!
The meeting that I remember was the one at the old Fulham Town Hall when Jimmy Hill was the main speaker.
The thing that I remember most about it was that at that we were really struggling because although finance was required the best that we could do at that time was to ask for ideas for local fund raising .
It really was at 'Church Fete' level but more was later to go on behind the scenes.
There was no shortage of determination by those who attended the meeting.but Jimmy made his one classic boob of suggesting that if Fulham had to go for development of a new ground it should be for 16000 people as that would be enough for our needs.
Not that I hold anything against him for such a statement.
Quote from: Stoneleigh Loyalist on March 05, 2023, 01:59:11 PM
My Fulham 2000 pottery Craven Cottage still has a pride of place in my home!
The meeting that I remember was the one at the old Fulham Town Hall when Jimmy Hill was the main speaker.
The thing that I remember most about it was that at that we were really struggling because although finance was required the best that we could do at that time was to ask for ideas for local fund raising .
It really was at 'Church Fete' level but more was later to go on behind the scenes.
There was no shortage of determination by those who attended the meeting.but Jimmy made his one classic boob of suggesting that if Fulham had to go for development of a new ground it should be for 16000 people as that would be enough for our needs.
Not that I hold anything against him for such a statement.
Haha. Shows what my memory is like - I couldn't even get the right Town Hall 🤣
Perhaps your memory is not that bad as from my memory the Fulham TH meeting was in the day time and I do not remember Dean and Robson being present.
I would suggest that there were two different meetings?
