Friends of Fulham

I am interested to see what you all think.

A trip to Cuba takes an early lead. Would have gone for public execution if that was an option after some of the 💩 I've read in the media.

Is there a betting market?  I think we know of someone that likes a gamble.  :023:!

5-6 matches

5-6 games. Can we have a serious poll about this please?

I think he could get a huge fine 8-10 games with 2 knocked off if he completes some sort of anger management course

Death penalty for attempting to rip the ref's arm off. He could have killed him!

Almost anything is possible. Some people are saying that kids watching so he needs to be seen to take a severe punishment. Kids have been behaving badly for many years so it is all paper talk

10 game ban would be interesting - next match would be Man U at Old Trafford!
What possibly could go wrong.
Personally I can see him being banned for the rest of the season, and maybe 5 games at the start of next season to emphasise the seriousness!

I think they will make an example out of him, 10 game ban coming his way...

What's surprised me in this is there has been little to no voice of reason throughout all of this. Long gone is the time where there'd be a reasonable diplomatic type collating all the news and weighing up the pros and cons and having a sensible debate about what happened.

If you look at a majority of the press and the BBC in particular, most of the air time has immediately jumped to asking referees, referee associations and even sunday league refs for their opinions, instead of taking a long view. The double standards are staggering and extremely concerning.

Since when has a rational and sensible approach ever been taken by listening to just one side of the arguement? Absurd.

The histronics of people with invested interests getting the limelight and coming up with things like Mitro being banned from football for 181 days is ridiculous. There's so little balance or logic in that. People using terminology like violent, are smoking something. It was aggressive, but brushing someones arm, or pulling it back momentarily to get someones attention isn't 'violent', it's simple an attempt to get someone's attention when they're refusing (wrongly so) to listen. The Ref reached for the red card so quickly when given the option.

Whatever happens, if it becomes too extreme I hope that Fulham hierarchy challenge it and take the referee in question, the refereeing association or the FA to court, because the double standards are so clear.

How has Toney not been banned despite a significant breach and admitted guilt to gambling (against the FA's code of ethics), yet still allowed to play on indefinitely. Where was Bruno Fernandes's retrospective ban for shoving the linesman? Who's to say that players in the PL didn't see what Bruno got away with and having not got punished felt that was now allowed, even though it clearly states he was on the borderline of being sent off and didn't even get a yellow card for it.

The whole thing has become a farce and I hope Fulham do football the world of good by tackling this bias head on and, equally important, winning.

Refs have to be held accountable too. The Ref clearly said something to Mitro before Mitro flared up too, what's to say the Manchester born ref didn't incite Mitro knowing he was on the edge, said something to give him a reaction and ability for the ref to send Mitro off?

Kavanagh should be suspended as a ref until this whole thing has been decided, alongside a review into his ability to do the job at the PL level.

Why didn't he give Fulham a penalty for the Shaw push on Mitro earlier? - he was looking straight at it?

How did he let West Ham score two goals, with clear handballs in the build up to them when Fulham played West Ham. If I were at the club, i'd be putting together a legal challenge on these grounds.

I'd also be petitioning for refs to have reflinks and their conversations recorded. That'd clear up a lot of this.

Some.of the above but including a lifetime ban and a public flogging. Also include community service as asked for by that muppet Field.

Quote from: General on March 21, 2023, 12:57:57 PM
What's surprised me in this is there has been little to no voice of reason throughout all of this. Long gone is the time where there'd be a reasonable diplomatic type collating all the news and weighing up the pros and cons and having a sensible debate about what happened.

If you look at a majority of the press and the BBC in particular, most of the air time has immediately jumped to asking referees, referee associations and even sunday league refs for their opinions, instead of taking a long view. The double standards are staggering and extremely concerning.

Since when has a rational and sensible approach ever been taken by listening to just one side of the arguement? Absurd.

The histronics of people with invested interests getting the limelight and coming up with things like Mitro being banned from football for 181 days is ridiculous. There's so little balance or logic in that. People using terminology like violent, are smoking something. It was aggressive, but brushing someones arm, or pulling it back momentarily to get someones attention isn't 'violent', it's simple an attempt to get someone's attention when they're refusing (wrongly so) to listen. The Ref reached for the red card so quickly when given the option.

Whatever happens, if it becomes too extreme I hope that Fulham hierarchy challenge it and take the referee in question, the refereeing association or the FA to court, because the double standards are so clear.

How has Toney not been banned despite a significant breach and admitted guilt to gambling (against the FA's code of ethics), yet still allowed to play on indefinitely. Where was Bruno Fernandes's retrospective ban for shoving the linesman? Who's to say that players in the PL didn't see what Bruno got away with and having not got punished felt that was now allowed, even though it clearly states he was on the borderline of being sent off and didn't even get a yellow card for it.

The whole thing has become a farce and I hope Fulham do football the world of good by tackling this bias head on and, equally important, winning.

Refs have to be held accountable too. The Ref clearly said something to Mitro before Mitro flared up too, what's to say the Manchester born ref didn't incite Mitro knowing he was on the edge, said something to give him a reaction and ability for the ref to send Mitro off?

Kavanagh should be suspended as a ref until this whole thing has been decided, alongside a review into his ability to do the job at the PL level.

Why didn't he give Fulham a penalty for the Shaw push on Mitro earlier? - he was looking straight at it?

How did he let West Ham score two goals, with clear handballs in the build up to them when Fulham played West Ham. If I were at the club, i'd be putting together a legal challenge on these grounds.

I'd also be petitioning for refs to have reflinks and their conversations recorded. That'd clear up a lot of this.

Oh so he was the clown in charge of that farce at West Ham. emm.  :022:

Quote from: Shredhead on March 21, 2023, 12:47:00 PM
5-6 games. Can we have a serious poll about this please?

Absolutely agree, the amount of people talking for bans which far exceed any punishment dished before is ridiculous.

What saddens me is how self righteous these professional assholes are until the next time they get caught repeating the very actions they condemn.  Anthony Taylor is opening a 'How not to referee a football match' course which promises a full box ticked FA referees certificate on completion (NB People living in SW6 are illegible for this course until further notice).

The offering by General at (appropriately) #10 cheered me up no end.  I seriously hope FFC challenge whatever measures the FA determines against all three - Silva, Willian, and Mitro.  A public hanging of the offending referee(s) will not be a necessity for me - just to see their backs for one last time will be good enough but I would like to see the FA bankrupted by the payouts they are forced to make to all clubs and players neagtively affected by poor decision making.   Then we can have OUR football back. 

8 match ban.

10 match ban, suspended if he transfers to ManU.

Chose Another.....guessing 5-6 game ban

Reading everything available I think it will be a minimum of 6 and probably extended to 8. It is an independent panel that will take evidence and past practice into account so there has to be a balanced reasoned response as opposed to the hysteria in the media

Quote from: General on March 21, 2023, 12:57:57 PM
What's surprised me in this is there has been little to no voice of reason throughout all of this. Long gone is the time where there'd be a reasonable diplomatic type collating all the news and weighing up the pros and cons and having a sensible debate about what happened.

If you look at a majority of the press and the BBC in particular, most of the air time has immediately jumped to asking referees, referee associations and even sunday league refs for their opinions, instead of taking a long view. The double standards are staggering and extremely concerning.

Since when has a rational and sensible approach ever been taken by listening to just one side of the arguement? Absurd.

The histronics of people with invested interests getting the limelight and coming up with things like Mitro being banned from football for 181 days is ridiculous. There's so little balance or logic in that. People using terminology like violent, are smoking something. It was aggressive, but brushing someones arm, or pulling it back momentarily to get someones attention isn't 'violent', it's simple an attempt to get someone's attention when they're refusing (wrongly so) to listen. The Ref reached for the red card so quickly when given the option.

Whatever happens, if it becomes too extreme I hope that Fulham hierarchy challenge it and take the referee in question, the refereeing association or the FA to court, because the double standards are so clear.

How has Toney not been banned despite a significant breach and admitted guilt to gambling (against the FA's code of ethics), yet still allowed to play on indefinitely. Where was Bruno Fernandes's retrospective ban for shoving the linesman? Who's to say that players in the PL didn't see what Bruno got away with and having not got punished felt that was now allowed, even though it clearly states he was on the borderline of being sent off and didn't even get a yellow card for it.

The whole thing has become a farce and I hope Fulham do football the world of good by tackling this bias head on and, equally important, winning.

Refs have to be held accountable too. The Ref clearly said something to Mitro before Mitro flared up too, what's to say the Manchester born ref didn't incite Mitro knowing he was on the edge, said something to give him a reaction and ability for the ref to send Mitro off?

Kavanagh should be suspended as a ref until this whole thing has been decided, alongside a review into his ability to do the job at the PL level.

Why didn't he give Fulham a penalty for the Shaw push on Mitro earlier? - he was looking straight at it?

How did he let West Ham score two goals, with clear handballs in the build up to them when Fulham played West Ham. If I were at the club, i'd be putting together a legal challenge on these grounds.

I'd also be petitioning for refs to have reflinks and their conversations recorded. That'd clear up a lot of this.

Well said, General.

It would appear that you are the voice of reason.

I want it to be no more than a 6 game ban, but would not be surprised if it for the remainder of the season.

Quote from: HamsterWheel on March 21, 2023, 03:00:32 PM
10 match ban, suspended if he transfers to ManU.

+1, or Liverpool, Newcastle, Chelsea, Man City or Arsenal.

Quote from: Sgt Fulham on March 21, 2023, 12:51:04 PM
Death penalty for attempting to rip the ref's arm off. He could have killed him!

After this Referee's performances in Fulham matches perhaps this should read 'should have killed him!' only joking. What has not been discussed is this ref. Perhaps he should get the same length of ban as Mitro's going to get where, he can learn about pushes in the back and what constitutes handball (West Ham).
Sorry General didn't read your excellent post before replying. Agree with you wholeheartedly.

Looking at the manic media, 3 years in Chokie being Toney's B*+ch

Quote from: General on March 21, 2023, 12:57:57 PM
What's surprised me in this is there has been little to no voice of reason throughout all of this. Long gone is the time where there'd be a reasonable diplomatic type collating all the news and weighing up the pros and cons and having a sensible debate about what happened.

If you look at a majority of the press and the BBC in particular, most of the air time has immediately jumped to asking referees, referee associations and even sunday league refs for their opinions, instead of taking a long view. The double standards are staggering and extremely concerning.

Since when has a rational and sensible approach ever been taken by listening to just one side of the arguement? Absurd.

The histronics of people with invested interests getting the limelight and coming up with things like Mitro being banned from football for 181 days is ridiculous. There's so little balance or logic in that. People using terminology like violent, are smoking something. It was aggressive, but brushing someones arm, or pulling it back momentarily to get someones attention isn't 'violent', it's simple an attempt to get someone's attention when they're refusing (wrongly so) to listen. The Ref reached for the red card so quickly when given the option.

Whatever happens, if it becomes too extreme I hope that Fulham hierarchy challenge it and take the referee in question, the refereeing association or the FA to court, because the double standards are so clear.

How has Toney not been banned despite a significant breach and admitted guilt to gambling (against the FA's code of ethics), yet still allowed to play on indefinitely. Where was Bruno Fernandes's retrospective ban for shoving the linesman? Who's to say that players in the PL didn't see what Bruno got away with and having not got punished felt that was now allowed, even though it clearly states he was on the borderline of being sent off and didn't even get a yellow card for it.

The whole thing has become a farce and I hope Fulham do football the world of good by tackling this bias head on and, equally important, winning.

Refs have to be held accountable too. The Ref clearly said something to Mitro before Mitro flared up too, what's to say the Manchester born ref didn't incite Mitro knowing he was on the edge, said something to give him a reaction and ability for the ref to send Mitro off?

Kavanagh should be suspended as a ref until this whole thing has been decided, alongside a review into his ability to do the job at the PL level.

Why didn't he give Fulham a penalty for the Shaw push on Mitro earlier? - he was looking straight at it?

How did he let West Ham score two goals, with clear handballs in the build up to them when Fulham played West Ham. If I were at the club, i'd be putting together a legal challenge on these grounds.

I'd also be petitioning for refs to have reflinks and their conversations recorded. That'd clear up a lot of this.

Summed it all up succinctly General. They will declare war and Fulham (and fans) must stand against it!

I'll go for 6-8

A spell at an anger management training facility. Where much like in a Clockwork Orange, he will be made to look at Fulham misdemeanours with horrific consequences. While watching the referee ignore handballs and fouls and kick outs by the opposition with the accompaniment of classical music and lovely fluffy bunnies. He will realise that we live in a corrupt land with corrupt consequences but we must all just allow ourselves to be manipulated and cheated without losing our temper.

He will come out and go to Room FA1. Here he will be subjected to more torture and in the end will plea for them to do it to Toney not him.

He will then be sitting in a cafe and a gaunt figure of his one time coach will come in. Having been through the same treatment they will ignore each other and love the FA.

5 game, many a player have tugged a ref arm to get there attention , he did even grab him with his arm, Mitro was in complete control until he flashed the red without a warning that when he truely lost it. but even after that when he went back to speak to him he was in control . If the the FA really believe coked up Terry isnt going to smack a ref  because Mitro tugged his arm they've another thing coming. the ref has a whistle and should have used it to bring the situation under control

I find this such a big issue for us and just don't want to face facts and be serious, wish we could get it done and dusted ASAP.
Did read before the incident that Chelsea were thinking of making an offer for him, a move to the Bridge may be considered sufficient punishment.

Six, Three too many.

10 is too many, 6 or 8.

He shouldn't be allowed to play again until he can provide proof he has redeemed himself by bathing in the living waters beneath the mines of Mandalore.

Quote from: Lighthouse on March 21, 2023, 04:56:09 PM
A spell at an anger management training facility. Where much like in a Clockwork Orange, he will be made to look at Fulham misdemeanours with horrific consequences. While watching the referee ignore handballs and fouls and kick outs by the opposition with the accompaniment of classical music and lovely fluffy bunnies. He will realise that we live in a corrupt land with corrupt consequences but we must all just allow ourselves to be manipulated and cheated without losing our temper.

He will come out and go to Room FA1. Here he will be subjected to more torture and in the end will plea for them to do it to Toney not him.

He will then be sitting in a cafe and a gaunt figure of his one time coach will come in. Having been through the same treatment they will ignore each other and love the FA.

Another appropriate epithet about the truly corrupt FA and how its poison must not be allowed to get to FFC no matter how many centuries Mitro may be banned for.  What still sticks in my throat is that Mitro  is a genuine guy and doesn't deserve this kind of rubbish thrown at him by the FA or anyone else in football.  It is the FA who need to be put on trial.

It's a great pity Shahid didn't buy Wembley and have the clout to evict the FA for being a bunch of boringly useless brown nosers who don't know the first thing about even handedness and the fair application of justice at the individual level.     

I hope that he'll take comfort and solace from people like Kebano and TC and treat his time out, however long, like a long term injury.  The advantage of course will be that he will have time to get back to full fitness, which he doesn't seem to have been for a while.   

6 seems reasonable. Don't forget the extreme - Suarez got 10 for biting a player. Mitro moved the refs arm back a bit.

Curtis Davies shared his opinion on twitter which I though put things into a healthier perspective.

The #Mitrović situation is interesting. I understand people calling for a longer ban than the standard three games.

I’m playing devil’s advocate but as a player I would consider a player putting in a potential leg breaking tackle as a lot worse and more influential to youngsters

— ℂ𝕦𝕣𝕥𝕚𝕤 𝔻𝕒𝕧𝕚𝕖𝕤 (@TheCurtisDavies) March 21, 2023

Refs I think would get a lot more respect if they actually showed impartial and genuinely good ability at it. It was clear that Marco and perhaps even mitro were incensed particularly by Kavanagh's inability to award a penalty to Mitro for Luke Shaw's push, Marco even said it himself.

At PL level, and in the quarter final of the FA cup, Ref's really should be doing better. This is meant to be the creme de la creme of the footballing and professional sporting world. How he can let the pen appeal go and then cause the sport to melt down so drastically in one match shouldn't be allowed.

In a just world, no bans and this ref should never officiate our games again. In the real ridiculous world, a 10 game ban for both!

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The whole incident is being blown out of all proportion by commentators and the media and for that reason I don't expect a sensible outcome. It was an idiotic move by Mitro for sure but it certainly wasn't violent conduct. There was never any danger of the referee coming to any physical harm, thankfully. In ordinary circumstances a 3 game ban would be about right. I can understand the call for more because of the 'hands on' the referee. That shouldn't happen. Mitro was bang out of order, no matter what provoked him. Any more than a 5 game ban would be unjustified IMO.

Realistically, Mitro should get 6 games max and Silva 3 games max. However, I wouldn't be surprised if they gave Mitro 10+ game ban and Marco 6-7, which would of course be incredibly unfair.

He's going to be deported to Rwanda.

I believe that Mitro will get a season ending ban alongside Silva. Both may be ordered to attend anger managent sessions and also Refereeing sessions on the rules of Football.

Maybe his 10 game ban will only apply to FA Cup games

He'll be retired before he serves that

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8 game ban followed by an immediate cessation of chocolate rations...???
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Anger management is not necessary as Mitro was always under control. Mitro was probably asking why he gave that decision after giving a corner. He could have been asking if Man Utd players who surrounded him had influenced him in changing his decision. Marco on the other hand wanted to know if the officials had been paid. In fairness I cannot see how the FA can sort this out as it is all hear say. There is no proof anywhere

Quote from: Finnans Right Peg on March 21, 2023, 12:47:59 PM
I think he could get a huge fine 8-10 games with 2 knocked off if he completes some sort of anger management course

...and that's just the referee!

I don't think that Mitro will play for Fulham again this season and will probably be sold during the summer!!

Totally agree with the General at #10. I would like to see Mr. Khan use some of his millions to mount a vigourous legal challenge to any FA hearing and decision given the extreme utterances to date.  Talk about guilty before trial!!
And I mean for Marco as well as for Mitro.