Could he be our answer up front
I thought he was excellent today when he came on
Agreed !! Vini wasn't bad either
I mentioned before that he does look the more dangerous of our strikers. Not the most skilful but the most direst. I know that non of the others are looking great so it could be just wishful thinking.
Quote from: perry geyton on October 07, 2023, 05:30:14 PMCould he be our answer up front
I thought he was excellent today when he came on
He's also shown he can head the ball...two great efforts this season with a surprising leap in him as well
He was good. But thought he had an opportunity to hit a chance first time late on.
Really not sure how much technical ability he has but does put himself about. Vini did however do well today. Was dropping deep and linking up and hold up play and laying off led to at least three good chances one of which led to BDRs goal and he does score here and there. Also runs in behind. Crazy situation however. If you had told me end of last season that we would be debating who should be starting out of Vini and Muniz for our best option up top I would have laughed my arse off said you were insane. Yet here we are.
Very difficult as crazy how few decent strikers are out there. Even top teams can't find them as the quality up there is so much poorer than 20 years ago. I'd give anything for a Zamora, Johnson or ageing Cole or Berbatov but I reckon Tottenham or Chelsea would as well. None of the options over summer looked very good. Note Beto at 25 million still hasn't scored a league goal. Let's pray Vini, Muniz and RJ can at least contribute this season until we somehow find/sign a proper replacement.
Easy to look good against Raul and vini.
Guirassy please, come January, 20 million euro release clause, get on it Fulham.
For a bit of grounding, 3 strikers, 8 games and 1 goals. BDR is our top PL scorer, maybe he should go up top
Quote from: malcbridger on October 07, 2023, 06:27:57 PMGuirassy please, come January, 20 million euro release clause, get on it Fulham.
On fire this season indeed. Reports he turned us down but I believe he also said don't believe everything you read so who knows. Looking at his record nothing special before this season but having said that watching the clips defo looks like he has a lot about him. I'd definitely be taking a punt at £20 million based on this year if he'd come. With so few good strikers out there however watch him go spurs. Just hate Mitro so much right now. I was of the opinion we shouldn't sell him no matter what as irreplaceable which looks true at this point but having said that sounds like he was being such a dick no option. Would love to try and get Guirassy and hope he can do it in the prem if we can somehow convince him.
In the barren post-metro landscape people are being very kind to our goal-shy trio . But hey-Ho the jury are still out.
Thought it was harsh to see him written-off by some given that he is still 22 and has had to acclimatise to playing in a different continent.
Quote from: MikeTheCubed on October 07, 2023, 07:55:00 PMThought it was harsh to see him written-off by some given that he is still 22 and has had to acclimatise to playing in a different continent.
And he wore out the bench at Boro
He could come good, the problem on here is people are always quick to criticise
He is nowhere good enough at this level. Neither is Vinicius. How often can you say we've got two Brazilian centre forwards who are not all that!
Quote from: Thames Bank 1 on October 07, 2023, 08:38:33 PMHe could come good, the problem on here is people are always quick to criticise
This is a football forum. You call it criticism but it's just opinion. Doesn't make it right. Of course he could come good but people are voting on what they've seen so far which IMO is a player who gives his all but is lacking.
Quote from: perry geyton on October 07, 2023, 05:30:14 PMCould he be our answer up front
I thought he was excellent today when he came on
Muniz is quality, he will go a very long way
Muniz, Vinnie and Jiminez, three good strikers who can do a job and should be well supported by us fans, Regret to say that none of them are going to set us on fire and are unlikely to score 10 goals over the season.
I would of course love to be proved wrong.
Vini showed today that he can hold the ball well and is a good team player, adding creativity too.
So, not a goal machine but I'll take that combination of attributes for now.
Quote from: perry geyton on October 07, 2023, 05:30:14 PMCould he be our answer up front
I thought he was excellent today when he came on
Been saying it for a while Piri, his style of play is the closest we have to the way mitro plays
Quote from: filham on October 07, 2023, 09:39:27 PMMuniz, Vinnie and Jiminez, three good strikers who can do a job and should be well supported by us fans, Regret to say that none of them are going to set us on fire and are unlikely to score 10 goals over the season.
I would of course love to be proved wrong.
Is that 10 goals each or 10 between them?
Quote from: davew on October 08, 2023, 06:56:44 AMQuote from: filham on October 07, 2023, 09:39:27 PMMuniz, Vinnie and Jiminez, three good strikers who can do a job and should be well supported by us fans, Regret to say that none of them are going to set us on fire and are unlikely to score 10 goals over the season.
I would of course love to be proved wrong.
Is that 10 goals each or 10 between them?
They could get 10 among the three of them ,that would be expected but we need a striker that is going to get at least 10 individual goals over a season.
Quote from: filham on October 08, 2023, 10:22:07 AMQuote from: davew on October 08, 2023, 06:56:44 AMQuote from: filham on October 07, 2023, 09:39:27 PMMuniz, Vinnie and Jiminez, three good strikers who can do a job and should be well supported by us fans, Regret to say that none of them are going to set us on fire and are unlikely to score 10 goals over the season.
I would of course love to be proved wrong.
Is that 10 goals each or 10 between them?
They could get 10 among the three of them ,that would be expected but we need a striker that is going to get at least 10 individual goals over a season.
Isn't the end result the same?
I would suggest we need to be scoring around fifty goals so we would want at least 30-35 goals from our front four. Last season we scored 42 between our front four positions between 9 players and we scored 10 from 4 defenders + Palhinha and Reed giving us a total of 52.
Those of us fortunate enough to see him live at Stoke a couple of seasons ago in full beast mode cling to the hope that wasn't a one-off and we might just see it again.
Marco wanted him and clearly believes in him, so let's hope he can unlock the potential and then he could turn out to be the best of the three.
Quote from: Ara's bacon crisps on October 08, 2023, 02:04:47 PMThose of us fortunate enough to see him live at Stoke a couple of seasons ago in full beast mode cling to the hope that wasn't a one-off and we might just see it again.
Marco wanted him and clearly believes in him, so let's hope he can unlock the potential and then he could turn out to be the best of the three.
I think we are letting what happened last season at a different club color our opinion of him. What we saw of him in our Championship season was a raw striker with a great deal of potential.
My opinion is given Raul's minutes this season, he would have a couple goals by now. That is not the same as saying he is a Premier League striker at this point. He seems to have gotten bigger since his season with the club though. I imagine he would be a headache in the air this season for defenders at a minimum. Will come in useful at some point. I hope he gets the start at Ipswich.
Anyone who questions his technical ability should watch the youtube clips from his time at Flamengo. Of course he was given a lot more time and space in that league than he will ever get in the Premier League but there is definitely some unlocked potential. I have not given up on him yet. Considering the current form of our other strikers I think he should be given a chance in the starting 11.
Quote from: blingo on October 08, 2023, 12:44:17 AMQuote from: perry geyton on October 07, 2023, 05:30:14 PMCould he be our answer up front
I thought he was excellent today when he came on
Been saying it for a while Piri, his style of play is the closest we have to the way mitro plays
Stop brown nosing me Bongo
Quote from: perry geyton on October 08, 2023, 08:31:19 PMQuote from: blingo on October 08, 2023, 12:44:17 AMQuote from: perry geyton on October 07, 2023, 05:30:14 PMCould he be our answer up front
I thought he was excellent today when he came on
Been saying it for a while Piri, his style of play is the closest we have to the way mitro plays
Stop brown nosing me Bongo
Quote from: blingo on October 08, 2023, 10:52:53 PMQuote from: perry geyton on October 08, 2023, 08:31:19 PMQuote from: blingo on October 08, 2023, 12:44:17 AMQuote from: perry geyton on October 07, 2023, 05:30:14 PMCould he be our answer up front
I thought he was excellent today when he came on
Been saying it for a while Piri, his style of play is the closest we have to the way mitro plays
Stop brown nosing me Bongo
You've got more chance of platting snot Piri
Not surprised we didn't sign one as even a good one to come in no guarantee that it won't take a few months to adjust.
We have replace 15 goals,a bigger problem replacing a major presence up front is the problem.
