Looking at the suggested squad for Scotland, ex-Chelsea Steve Clarke has omitted our brilliant playmaker Tom Cairney.
Scotland have selected players from Southampton, Norwich and even Bologna(??) above Fulham's fabulous captain.
Either Clarke's style of football does not require Scotland need a playmaker as they play hoof-and-hope, or Clarke simply just hates Fulham.
He cannot be that obtuse to the current form of Fulham and Cairney as we scythe a path through the Premier League aiming for the European places. The fact TC hasn't played every match should not be an issue, certainly in comparison to the likes of Billy Gilmour, Ryan Christie & Stuart Armstrong. I would rather have Cairney than John McGinn whom Clarke seems to blow smoke up.
It's a shame Tom Cairney declared for Scotland as it has been a fruitless committment - he would have better chances for an England cap as the national team could do with a "Hoddle-esque" type creator.
How does time on pitch compare to those called up? The only other consideration is Cairney is barely Scottish. He's clearly as English as you can be whilst having a Scottish relation... maybe Clarke thinks going for a player who has such limited ties and interest in Scotland is off-putting?
I'm just speculating though.
I'm sure he retired after McLeish got involved last time around, didn't he?
Actually, ignore this. A quick Google and I have put myself right.
I have always been surprised at how few caps Cairney has , for some reason he is just not rated by Scottish selectors.
Clarke's time in charge has brought the Scottish team up from rubbish to mediocre by playing dull, unambitious football.
He wouldn't know how to use a player with Cairney's quality.
One player they have brought in to their squad from bologna ex aberdeen midfielder and captain scored 6goals and silva likes him could be cairneys replacement is 24.
For what is it worth Patrick Barclay was on the Fulhamish podcast a few months ago and believes TCs lack of action is one of the worst mistakes in modern Scottish football history.
He's not a first choice player for Fulham, why would he be picked for a national squad?
Quote from: gang on March 22, 2024, 09:39:21 AMHe's not a first choice player for Fulham, why would he be picked for a national squad?
Lots of players that are not first choice play for their national teams (Maguire and Phillips for England as prime examples). He plays enough for it not to be a big disadvantage. Also, many (most) national teams (for example Scotland) have a much lower overall quality of players than Fulham.
Quote from: gang on March 22, 2024, 09:39:21 AMHe's not a first choice player for Fulham, why would he be picked for a national squad?
Odd take considering around half of Fulham players getting called up have not been full time starters.
Quote from: peachcobbler on March 22, 2024, 12:49:54 PMQuote from: gang on March 22, 2024, 09:39:21 AMHe's not a first choice player for Fulham, why would he be picked for a national squad?
Odd take considering around half of Fulham players getting called up have not been full time starters.
And Scotland probably have a few in the same boat generally.
iirc, cairney refused to play for scotland on a couple of occasions. He's never really been up for it, so I kind of get it to be honest...
I do find it a bit odd that people moan about waste of time internationals, because of players getting injured/fatigued, then have a go because a player has not been selected. A mate of mine has just done that so I upset him by calling him a hypocrite.
He thought about it then obviously realised you can't have it both ways.
Quote from: southwest6 on March 22, 2024, 02:31:24 PMiirc, cairney refused to play for scotland on a couple of occasions. He's never really been up for it, so I kind of get it to be honest...
He pulled out due to injury in 2018 and everyone was saying it was a ploy to get picked up for England. If I recall correctly TC came out and rejected the notion he ever was trying for England, that it was all banter and his dad would kill him if he played for England.
I believe, although I might be totally misremembering, McLeish confirmed he thought the England interest was a story only and that Tom had showed no interest in dodging Scotland for England.
Netherlands 4-0 Scotland. 'Nuff said!
Quote from: bill taylors apprentice on March 21, 2024, 08:30:30 PMClarke's time in charge has brought the Scottish team up from rubbish to mediocre by playing dull, unambitious football.
He wouldn't know how to use a player with Cairney's quality.
It didn't stop Scott Parker ::smile::
Quote from: gang on March 22, 2024, 09:39:21 AMHe's not a first choice player for Fulham, why would he be picked for a national squad?
He has kept Andreas on the bench for a good part of the season. Andreas who has just been star man (albeit sub) for Brazil. A team that beat England at Wembley for the first time in years.
Quote from: Cambridge Away on March 26, 2024, 12:34:17 PMQuote from: gang on March 22, 2024, 09:39:21 AMHe's not a first choice player for Fulham, why would he be picked for a national squad?
He has kept Andreas on the bench for a good part of the season. Andreas who has just been star man (albeit sub) for Brazil. A team that beat England at Wembley for the first time in years.
Hasn't Andreas started all but one game this season (or something like that)? He has certainly not been kept out by TC, but they have started several games together.
Quote from: Cambridge Away on March 26, 2024, 12:34:17 PMQuote from: gang on March 22, 2024, 09:39:21 AMHe's not a first choice player for Fulham, why would he be picked for a national squad?
He has kept Andreas on the bench for a good part of the season. Andreas who has just been star man (albeit sub) for Brazil. A team that beat England at Wembley for the first time in years.
He hasn't though. He kept Lukic and Reed on the bench. He didn't start against Everton in the opening game agaist Everton because he just recovered from a serious injury. Next game he didn't start was Brighton away where ot was Iwobi that took his place. The final game he didn't start was the 2-1 win against Arsenal when it was again Iwobi that took his place. So that statement is factualy incorrect.
I doubt he's that bothered at his age he's probably happy not to have to go
Same would apply if he was at England playing
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Quote from: SerbianLad on March 26, 2024, 03:06:57 PMQuote from: Cambridge Away on March 26, 2024, 12:34:17 PMQuote from: gang on March 22, 2024, 09:39:21 AMHe's not a first choice player for Fulham, why would he be picked for a national squad?
He has kept Andreas on the bench for a good part of the season. Andreas who has just been star man (albeit sub) for Brazil. A team that beat England at Wembley for the first time in years.
He hasn't though. He kept Lukic and Reed on the bench. He didn't start against Everton in the opening game agaist Everton because he just recovered from a serious injury. Next game he didn't start was Brighton away where ot was Iwobi that took his place. The final game he didn't start was the 2-1 win against Arsenal when it was again Iwobi that took his place. So that statement is factualy incorrect.
Lol, i stand 'factually corrected' then
Sorry if that offended, Serbia White ::smile::
Quote from: Cambridge Away on March 26, 2024, 07:38:40 PMLol, i stand 'factually corrected' then
Sorry if that offended, Serbia White ::smile::
No offence here. Reading my response again, it does sound rather harsh. Sorry, I didn't intend it that way. English isn't my first language so it does happen from time to time. So sorry if I offended you in any way 🤝
Quote from: SerbianLad on March 26, 2024, 07:42:37 PMQuote from: Cambridge Away on March 26, 2024, 07:38:40 PMLol, i stand 'factually corrected' then
Sorry if that offended, Serbia White ::smile::
No offence here. Reading my response again, it does sound rather harsh. Sorry, I didn't intend it that way. English isn't my first language so it does happen from time to time. So sorry if I offended you in any way 🤝
I'd like to believe you, but i have encountered you before and find you a little disingenuous (and your response time to my posts are always literally a minute, which i do find a little suspect). I've set quite a low bar when i read things from you and am happy with my own thoughts on the matter (even if no one else agrees); so, no, i am not offended. I think you do a good service to this board in general, so try to keep to the positive side. Much love.
Quote from: Cambridge Away on March 26, 2024, 07:55:07 PMI'd like to believe you, but i have encountered you before and find you a little disingenuous (and your response time to my posts are always literally a minute, which i do find a little suspect). I've set quite a low bar when i read things from you and am happy with my own thoughts on the matter (even if no one else agrees); so, no, i am not offended. I think you do a good service to this board in general, so try to keep to the positive side. Much love.
I'm really sorry if that's the case. Genuinely that wasn't what I was aiming for. As for my quick response to your messages, I usually respond to everyone very quickly, and I'm sure many can attest to that. The reason for that is, I do all my work on the computer and FOF is one of the websites that I always keep opened, even when I'm working. Pretty much every 10-15 minutes, or sometimes even more frequently, I refresh 5-6 pages that I always have opened and check if there is anything new that is interesting. If I have time I respond imidiately. If I don't reply to someone for a longer period of time, that usually means that I'm spending time with my family or friends. Again, sorry if you got offended, I definitely didn't intend that.
Scotland 0-1 Northern Ireland. Theys till don't want Cairney!
I would imagine there is History. Scotland not over blessed with Footballers who play Regularly in the Premier League.Not to even make a Squad seems sinister.
I dont think he dislikes TC, just think he is a bit out of his depth managing at this level. I am a Scot but think Scotland will struggle in the Euros and then will be looking for another manager. Sadly, there are too few on the horizon. Perhaps Alex Ferguson could make a comeback. ::thumb::
Trying to imagine Steve Clarke laughing or even smiling.I have already given up. Dour would be an understatement.
