I guess this is our substitute for the missing Fulham game.
Brazil should generate interest and with the possibility of seeing Periera play I guess I will watch.
It is live on Channel 4 starting at 6pm.
I shall be there watching England 🏴
Might give it a go.... hopefully our boy starts
Fulham have a few Brazilians but only Pereira may feature. Should be worth a watch. I see Southgate has derided the Nike symbol which he said is not the flag of St.George.
Well, that's because it isn't, I think that everybody agrees with that.
Other than the Fulham connection I remain very cool towards pointless matches. As interesting as the Womens Rugby. Never see the point of having them live on tv. Still live and let live.
Well we won the singing contest without breaking into sweat.
No interest at all in watching England these days but I have looked at the team selection, seems like a lot of our "stars" don't want to play and Fulhams bench these days looks better than Englands tonight! Come on Andreas!!
No goals but a good game. Once again Bellingham is a class apart.
Paqueta is the best player on the pitch but he should also have about 4 yellows. He's lucky this is a friendly or he would be off.
Chillwell is a liability at the back and almost useless going forward, apart from that its a decent game.
Maguire was showing a bit of poise at the back until he made his usual lapse but got away with it.
I hope we see Andreas in the second half. It would be a huge moment for him.
Have never rated Chilwell. What am I missing?
Bellingham & Gordon having good games. Konsa also looked composed since coming on. Gallagher started well but faded as the game went on; he's a bit of liability from his technical ability IMO.
As others have said, Paqueta having a very good game, but would not still be on the pitch if this wasn't a friendly. Would be nice to see Andreas come on for him. It's impressive how quickly they can shift the ball when they turn it on. There's some serious individual technical ability in that squad.
On a side note, Maguire takes far too many touches. Just release the ball earlier mate.....
Pereira coming on
Pereira doesn't get the assist but he played the key pass that led to the goal
Pereira with the key pass to Vinicius and the rebound was scored by FM24's highest rated teenager
Thought the Brazil goal was offside tbh..
Several TV minutes analysing the goal without mentioning Pereira's peach of a pass once.
Quote from: Fulham 442 on March 23, 2024, 08:46:47 PMThought the Brazil goal was offside tbh..
It did, not sure how VAR thought it wasn't.
Quote from: Fulham 442 on March 23, 2024, 08:46:47 PMThought the Brazil goal was offside tbh..
I thought so too at first, but I'm pretty sure he was one after watching the replays. Someone on the far side was playing Vinicius on. Endrick was definitely on.
Happy for Andreas to get a big contribution.
Considering 60-odd years supporting Fulham FC, I find it rather thrilling to see one of our players getting a cap for Brazil.
It bodes well for us that we have a number 10 who just sliced England in half.
Stats say we have had 3 shots on goal but I cannot remember one.
Fantastic pass by Pereira.
But f*** me, we are so uninspiring.
Pereira with another cheeky pass to Endrick for a 1 vs 1 but he missed.
Quote from: demeant0r on March 23, 2024, 08:57:16 PMPereira with another cheeky pass to Endrick for a 1 vs 1 but he missed.
Yes. Muniz would have put it away.
Andreas almost got an assist there as well.
Have to say as a neutral, Brazil deserved that. They weren't great either, but I thought they edged it. They had more good chances than England.
Andreas played really well. Hopefully this will give him even more confidence (he seems like a confident guy already) and he can start playing even better for Fulham.
Hard to remember an England game with so many missed chances, from both teams.
Shows hw we miss Harry kane who was sitting on the bench in his track suite, why was he not used.
Quote from: cmg on March 23, 2024, 08:58:47 PMQuote from: demeant0r on March 23, 2024, 08:57:16 PMPereira with another cheeky pass to Endrick for a 1 vs 1 but he missed.
Yes. Muniz would have put it away.
This was from BBC:
"90+5 mins
Post update
England 0-1 Brazil
Brazil almost score on the counter-attack but Endrick's shot is saved."
No mention of the sublime pass by Pereira.
Quote from: cmg on March 23, 2024, 08:50:18 PMConsidering 60-odd years supporting Fulham FC, I find it rather thrilling to see one of our players getting a cap for Brazil.
+1
Quote from: filham on March 23, 2024, 09:05:03 PMHard to remember an England game with so many missed chances, from both teams.
Shows hw we miss Harry kane who was sitting on the bench in his track suite, why was he not used.
Injured.
I know its great that we have a player in the Brazil squad/side but from an actual football perspective I really struggle with a Brazil side that is littered with players from the likes of us, West Ham, Wolves and Newcastle. It shows just how lopsided the power and them money is with the Premier League to me.
But that is not to detract from the game, which was intriguing and what friendlies should be about. There would be no point playing Norway or Georgia at this point, these games against quality opponents are the ones that are going to provide Southgate with the problems he needs to solve before a tournament starts.
Fully expected loss. You should never mess with our flag
True Somerset, and there were plenty of them. Not least was Southgate's style possession football with the usual slow build up, giving their defence time to regroup.
I look through the players in the England squad and I just don't see what everyone raves about. Yes, Southgate is terrible and constantly picks players out of form or that don't play regularly for their clubs. However there are multiple positions, especially defensively where the options we have are terrible
What I saw of the game wasn't that inspiring.... Bellingham head & shoulders above everybody.... Foden also.....on that performance, can't see either team winning a tournament
Absolutely thrilled for Andreas. He showed he belonged in the Brazil team. Created two big chances. Just need to get Muniz in the team next.
Crazy to have a Fulham player in the Brazil team and playing well.
I thought Andreas was Brazil's most impressive player.
Poor finishing robbed Pereira of 2 assists in 20 minutes, best player on the pitch.
That is making an impression Andreas 2 key passes and he's our player.
Southgate for Manure well they would be the only team in that area that would sign him.
It was a poor England performance where Brazil could have been three up by half time.
It's as if they weren't playing for pride on what was a prestigious occasion.
I thought our Fulham team would have done better.
Southgate said there were many good things he saw in England's performance...really?
Pity no spotlight on TV or mention in the match report of the smart pass by Andreas that brought about the winner.
At least we've got 'Hendo' to come back in....
Jo Cole was analysing the goal and went to say about the Andreas pass
and obviously could'nt remember his name. Not sure he's that good as a pundit.
Toothless up front against well organised and strong teams and always got a mistake in us at the back equals we will never win anything with this manager.
Playing his favourite Maguire nearly cost us in the first half and past his sell by date Dunk's poor attempt at clearing the ball led to their goal.
Both of these are good PL players but lack the speed of thought and pace at the highest level which is a weakness at the heart of defence.
Plenty of attacking flair which works against the lesser teams but wrong tactics again see us fail again against clever and determined opponents.
Decent enough build up play but a lack of cutting edge in the final third. I thought Chilwell was especially poor and yet again Maguire was error prone. I also worry about lack of pace across our back line, especially after Walker went off and I wasn't impressed by Dunk either.
With Kane and Saka fit and the exciting Bellingham we'll be ok going forward but defensively I don't see us as being good enough.
TBF England did surround the ref effectively when Brazil scored......
Andreas pass was brilliant and the goal was definitely NOT offside. A different Brazilian was clearly offside but the ball went nowhere near him.
Quote from: bill taylors apprentice on March 24, 2024, 09:55:35 AMToothless up front against well organised and strong teams and always got a mistake in us at the back equals we will never win anything with this manager.
Playing his favourite Maguire nearly cost us in the first half and past his sell by date Dunk's poor attempt at clearing the ball led to their goal.
Both of these are good PL players but lack the speed of thought and pace at the highest level which is a weakness at the heart of defence.
Plenty of attacking flair which works against the lesser teams but wrong tactics again see us fail again against clever and determined opponents.
I do not think that Maguire lacks speed of thought just speed of bodily reaction. Most modern footballers are the exact opposite.
Channel 4's "woke" panel share no insight, even sounding positive about that poor performance. Joe Cole is one of the thickest blokes they can have who didn't even pick up on Dunk's mistake. He even praised Chillwell who had a mare (or his usual game). The one chance England created showed why we still need Kane, Ollie Watkins bad control made him hoof it into row Z.
They went on and on about this Brazilian "wonderkid" yet he choked when one on one with Pickford at the death, but they seemed to ignore that one as it doesn't fit the narrative.
Portuguese ref was suprising fair I thought.
In the comments lots of calls for Shirtgate to be the next Manchester United manager (this may not be entirely reflected by United fans). Also hate for Gallagher and Chilwell. Not sure what they have in common.
The team that played with passion won the day.
MOM Andreas Pereira ::scarf::
Quote from: Twig on March 24, 2024, 11:00:24 AMDecent enough build up play but a lack of cutting edge in the final third. I thought Chilwell was especially poor and yet again Maguire was error prone. I also worry about lack of pace across our back line, especially after Walker went off and I wasn't impressed by Dunk either.
With Kane and Saka fit and the exciting Bellingham we'll be ok going forward but defensively I don't see us as being good enough.
Southgateball in a nutshell
Big Sam deserved more of a chance - he was set up.
At least he likes his teams to attack - long ball from defence into the mixer, big man on the end- no shilly-shallying playing out from the back.
Get a long throw merchant in.
Players getting inside the ref's head, questioning every decision against us - where were the England players waving imaginary cards?
OK, so he's fond of a brown envelope - allegedly, but at least he's a winner!!!! :)
I went, was a good game always good to see some of best players in world. Thought Bellingham was again class above other England players and is a generational talent. For Brazil thought Paqueta was best player and always funny to me that Brazils best player plays for West Ham. Good to see Pereira come on
When I think back to past tournaments, the winning nation have invariably had a creative forward midfield player. England have never had a truly skilled and consistent player in that role. Sorry Gazza (inconsistent) and Bryan (great heart but not skillful). Only Bobby Charlton comes close and that didn't work out badly, did it? Now in Jude Bellingham, we have I believe found our nirvana. All we need now is a manager.
Quote from: Grassy Noel on March 26, 2024, 12:10:17 AMWhen I think back to past tournaments, the winning nation have invariably had a creative forward midfield player. England have never had a truly skilled and consistent player in that role. Sorry Gazza (inconsistent) and Bryan (great heart but not skillful). Only Bobby Charlton comes close and that didn't work out badly, did it? Now in Jude Bellingham, we have I believe found our nirvana. All we need now is a manager.
You're forgetting Haynes!
According to the late Jimmy Greaves Haynes was a better player than Charlton !
Quote from: Holders on March 26, 2024, 06:38:01 AMQuote from: Grassy Noel on March 26, 2024, 12:10:17 AMWhen I think back to past tournaments, the winning nation have invariably had a creative forward midfield player. England have never had a truly skilled and consistent player in that role. Sorry Gazza (inconsistent) and Bryan (great heart but not skillful). Only Bobby Charlton comes close and that didn't work out badly, did it? Now in Jude Bellingham, we have I believe found our nirvana. All we need now is a manager.
You're forgetting Haynes!
I have not forgotten him nor his wonderful hat-trick in the mid-week mist against USSR. It is just that he never got an extended run to show his true worth. If only.