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Blinkered BBC

Started by Brawn, February 20, 2021, 10:53:38 PM

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FFC1987

I don't buy the bias aspect but it wasn't a pen. A keeper can challenge for a ball within 2 yards of his goal. As for Murphy, I have a soft spot for him but often disagree with him particularly on talksport. Games about opinions though so like to listen to him still but just because he sometimes says nice things about us doesn't mean he has authority on an objective truth of a situation.

cookieg

It's the follow through that gets the Sheff Utd player which is the issue. Yes Areola blocked the ball but did give the forward a kick.

FFC1987

Quote from: cookieg on February 21, 2021, 09:40:34 AM
It's the follow through that gets the Sheff Utd player which is the issue. Yes Areola blocked the ball but did give the forward a kick.

But in almost all tackles there's some follow through. I don't see from the angles of both players, how he can't make contact, and win the ball.


SP

I find it amusing that Danny Murphy who's never officiated an official game knows more than both the on-field referee & the refs at Stockley Park.

mrmicawbers

I don't care what it was we have 3 points.About time we a fair rub of the green.This was a main taking point because how important it was for us.

cookieg

Quote from: SP on February 21, 2021, 09:53:01 AM
I find it amusing that Danny Murphy who's never officiated an official game knows more than both the on-field referee & the refs at Stockley Park.

Or the refs don't know as much about the game as those who actually played it at a high level.


cookieg

Quote from: FFC1987 on February 21, 2021, 09:49:44 AM
Quote from: cookieg on February 21, 2021, 09:40:34 AM
It's the follow through that gets the Sheff Utd player which is the issue. Yes Areola blocked the ball but did give the forward a kick.

But in almost all tackles there's some follow through. I don't see from the angles of both players, how he can't make contact, and win the ball.

You get many sendings off when this happens outfield when the player may have got a touch on the ball but the follow through takes out the other player.

sunburywhite

Sheffield knew how good RLC was as they chopped him down every time they could. How many fouls were there on him?
Remember you are braver than you believe, stronger than you seem, and smarter than you think.
I will be as good as I can be and when I cross the finishing line I will see what it got me

FFC1987

Quote from: cookieg on February 21, 2021, 10:14:13 AM
Quote from: FFC1987 on February 21, 2021, 09:49:44 AM
Quote from: cookieg on February 21, 2021, 09:40:34 AM
It's the follow through that gets the Sheff Utd player which is the issue. Yes Areola blocked the ball but did give the forward a kick.

But in almost all tackles there's some follow through. I don't see from the angles of both players, how he can't make contact, and win the ball.

You get many sendings off when this happens outfield when the player may have got a touch on the ball but the follow through takes out the other player.

But that's mainly because of the lunging at speed actions, not a GK whose almost planted. Again, it's extremely different and not a fair comparison.


SP

Quote from: cookieg on February 21, 2021, 10:11:38 AM
Quote from: SP on February 21, 2021, 09:53:01 AM
I find it amusing that Danny Murphy who's never officiated an official game knows more than both the on-field referee & the refs at Stockley Park.

Or the refs don't know as much about the game as those who actually played it at a high level.

Yes, a valid point, but not the point I'm making.  My post was about understanding the laws of football & enforcing the interpretation of them.  Danny may well be an expert in this area?

Andy S

I think it is great having talking points over football matches. We have all watched the same game from the same angle on tv yet some feel it was a cast iron penalty while others don't think so. Even the ex pros see it differently to the referee's There is only one ruling that is important. That was the referees during the game

Deeping_white

The thing is though, for everyone saying it's a penalty, explain to me what Areola was meant to do differently? The ball is two yards from the goal, he HAS to go for it in normal circumstances, let alone the 90th minute of a relegation dogfight that's massive in terms of how the season pans out,  and he puts his body on the line as you'd expect a pro to do. Yes Bogle touches it first but Areola blocks the ball with his left leg, and his right leg goes in to Bogle. It's not like we can alter the laws of physics to stop his momentum, it was two players both going in for the ball and it ending in a collision that was deemed a fair outcome of a 50/50 by VAR. Sets a very dangerous precedent if we're saying a keeper can't dive in to make a save (which he makes because he gets the ball before the man). I'd understand if he didn't cleanly block the ball and cleaned out Bogle, I.e it continued on towards the goal rather than away from it that then you've got a case for a penalty, but I don't get what he was meant to do differently that wouldn't have resulted in him and Bogle coming together after making a save?


ALG01

if the incident was at the other end of the pitch chris wilder would have said it was never a penalty, nor a sending off nor reckless. we all know that..and I would agree with him.

but he is a biased bitter man and so invents fiction. the pundits were also wrong, the lot of them. I do not know why, the keeper was not reckless, he went for the ball in a proper manner, as did the forward, that was genuinely what happens in a 50 50 challenge.

filham

I was sweating on that late incident, 2 precious points were at stake as well as Arelola missing matches. Relegation or safety could have hinged on that decision.

SP

Quote from: ALG01 on February 21, 2021, 11:41:56 AM
if the incident was at the other end of the pitch chris wilder would have said it was never a penalty, nor a sending off nor reckless. we all know that..and I would agree with him.

but he is a biased bitter man and so invents fiction. the pundits were also wrong, the lot of them. I do not know why, the keeper was not reckless, he went for the ball in a proper manner, as did the forward, that was genuinely what happens in a 50 50 challenge.

Yes, funny that Wilder didn't mind Baldock literally kicking lumps out of Lookman.  Having said that, the ref didn't seem to mind either.