View from Millwall

[love4ffc]

Ladies & Gentlemen,

This topic has strayed a bit from what I believe is the intentions of the OP.  I believe everyone enjoys and appreciates the work that TerryR puts into pulling together these views from our opposing clubs.  I don't believe TerryR intended for the OP to start a debate on racism or politics.

While I do think that racism and the taking of the knee should be discussed, it is painfully obvious that it can not be done in a civil manner on this forum. 

Please remember the FoF guidelines for posting and keep your postings civil towards your fellow Fulham fans. 

[Somerset Fulham]

I'm not going to respond to your presumed reply 

Another one who knocks the Monopoly board off the table when he's losing

I may well do when I'm losing, but this isn't one of those times. ;)

Over and out.

[Statto]

I'm not going to respond to your presumed reply 

Another one who knocks the Monopoly board off the table when he's losing

I may well do when I'm losing, but this isn't one of those times. ;)

Over and out.

Lol, what did I just say about "intelligent debate"?

Over and out indeed

[colossus]

Technically you should never say 'Over and out' as it doesn't make sense. "Over to you but I'm ending the dialog'.

In this instance neither of you are being intelligent

[MikeTheCubed]

''Horrible arrogant team & full on woke fans.......plenty of clapping when they take the knee ....let's be loud & proud with the boo''
And some people think there's not a problem with racism in football!

Thought it was well-established by now that not supporting the knee-taking isn't racist. Clearly not.
And some people think there's not a problem with idiocy in contemporary race relations discourse!

There's not supporting it and there's actively booing it. As far as I am concerned the latter is ignorant racism! And that includes anyone who tries to manufacture some argument to justify the boo boys. Ignorant, bigoted, sad racists.

What if one simply doesn't feel that this has a place at a football match for such a prolonged period of time? After all it is not deemed to be an acceptable discussion on this forum.

By the same divisive logic of "you either accept it or you're a racist" the moderator who goes on to remove these posts in support of such arguments could also be deemed as racist.

You might not feel it has a place, clearly Statto doesn't either. However actively booing those players choosing to take the knee is a nasty racist response in my book. Tell me, what cogent argument can you offer for booing?

I'll boo simply because I find it tedious and believe it has outlived its purpose, the latter of which numerous victims of online abuse have attested to.

If an extraterrestrial came to Earth a year ago, fell in love with football and decided they'd quite like to stay, they could be forgiven for believing that Racial Inequality is the only issue permeating football. That there's no corruption, greed, mistreatment of youth players etc.

With Respect, You have lost me, It is not about football, Footballers (of all colours) use the platform of a match to highlight the social differences and attitudes many Black and afro Caribbean people face on a day to day basis. If we lived our lives with some of the things they have had to live through, a few of those who boo the taking of the Knee would probably not do so. I have black friends, I grew up in London, I have seen and heard discrimination and still hear comments today that are shameful. One little anecdote, Living in London I have never been stopped by the police while driving, three times when in a car being driven by either a black or Asian person the car has been stopped. None of my Black and Asian friends have ever been arrested or been in prison and have jobs that are regarded as respectable and well paid, They have grown up being stopped many times for very little reasons by the police, I have been stopped twice in my lifetime. They do not want special treatment from anyone, just the same as everyone else and this is one way to highlight that discrepancy.

"It's not about football"

Couldn't agree more!

I'll leave it at that in light of above post.

[terryr]

Ladies & Gentlemen,

This topic has strayed a bit from what I believe is the intentions of the OP.  I believe everyone enjoys and appreciates the work that TerryR puts into pulling together these views from our opposing clubs.  I don't believe TerryR intended for the OP to start a debate on racism or politics.

While I do think that racism and the taking of the knee should be discussed, it is painfully obvious that it can not be done in a civil manner on this forum. 

Please remember the FoF guidelines for posting and keep your postings civil towards your fellow Fulham fans. 

Correct
This post is like all posts regarding the ''View from'' posts I make.
Though I believe debate on issues in wider society can be useful and constructive, it was never my intention to start that debate here.
Football and Fulham related ''stuff'' is all I'm interested in posting on the mighty FOF.
Lets smash Millwall regardless of the fans there ( good and bad like all of society)!

[ffcne]

Being opposed to the gesture of an extreme group which wants to radically reform society does not make you racist

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