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Since the Khan's took over

Started by H4usuallysitting, November 07, 2021, 02:34:21 PM

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toshes mate

Quote from: The Rational Fan on November 09, 2021, 10:58:10 PM

Since Marco Silva has joined, the Recruitment Model has not changed at all, while the on field style now follows the recruitment style.
It may seem illogical (or irrational) to you, TRF, but in a sense style of play will always follows recruitment e.g. muddled recruitment - muddled style; ill fitted recruitment - long process to resolve on field style.  We have seen this with Jokanovic and Parker predominately and we have both TK's and Parker's word that both were involved and so there shouldn't have been anything but successful resolutions.  But there were no real successes to be seen over whole seasons other than Parker's promotion play-off run.  He didn't win automatic promotion (which was the Khan target) and he was an abject failure when it came to having the style to survive in the PL.  I think you are obsessed with a belief in TK which has absolutely nothing to do with how things, in reality, panned out.

As to whether or not TK has been marginalised I, personally, don't have a clue, but I do know that many negatives attach to his performance as DoF and they far outweigh the positives.  All of this could have been avoided has TK's ego been sufficiently reined in and players and coaches would have benefitted had that been the case.  IMO.

Dougie

Quote from: The Rational Fan on November 10, 2021, 07:18:51 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on November 10, 2021, 12:55:12 AM
You are embarrassing yourself defending the indefensible, which is the buffoon Tony Khan and massaging his inflated ego will not improve him one bit. My wife has forgotten more about football than TK will ever learn.

Tony Khan took over when the team was 20th in the Championship and has built a team that should finish 2nd in the Championship. He is a fantastic DOF because he keeps the funding tap for players on and recruits better players than he losses.

Tony Khan took over in February 2017. We were firmly in the playoff race at that point, thanks to some amazing signings when Mike Rigg was DoF. TK's first transfer window was Cisse, Fonte and Kamara for a combined £12.25m.

ALG01

Quote from: mrmicawbers on November 10, 2021, 09:46:31 AM
Quote from: ALG01 on November 10, 2021, 09:27:59 AM
Quote from: mrmicawbers on November 10, 2021, 08:02:23 AM
I think it's probably somewhere in between those conflicting view points.What is obvious is whatever he does some posters will never give him any credit as it doesn't suit their weary agendas.

I Lways give him credit when it is due. You can check my posts and see that is the case.
I wasn't picking anyone out in particular,just fed up reading these over long posts which keep repeating the same old.

I do understand that and as you know I am one of the most guilty of repeating myself at length and I do apologise ffor that!!!

I think you were right in what you said. So thought it a good opportunity and meant to  say i support fulham, i want what is best. If tony does well, brilliant, if he doesn't then I say so. same with the players. seri was dreadful but now is brilliant and i love him for that.

when I see something very wrong, uncorrected I cannot help mysel but speak up.

But your comment IMO remain correct.


toshes mate

Quote from: Dougie on November 10, 2021, 10:34:56 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on November 10, 2021, 07:18:51 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on November 10, 2021, 12:55:12 AM
You are embarrassing yourself defending the indefensible, which is the buffoon Tony Khan and massaging his inflated ego will not improve him one bit. My wife has forgotten more about football than TK will ever learn.

Tony Khan took over when the team was 20th in the Championship and has built a team that should finish 2nd in the Championship. He is a fantastic DOF because he keeps the funding tap for players on and recruits better players than he losses.

Tony Khan took over in February 2017. We were firmly in the playoff race at that point, thanks to some amazing signings when Mike Rigg was DoF. TK's first transfer window was Cisse, Fonte and Kamara for a combined £12.25m.
As far as I am aware TK and CK took over recruitment in Summer 2016 at the beginning of Jokanovic's first full season.  You may remember SJ's comment at the time about 'some computer guy (CK) does the recruiting'. Rigg was ousted about this time in 2016 when the CM 'train station' saga  reared its ugly head.   It should be stated, however, that SJ's and Kit Symons's records were very similar with the latter slightly better on a points per game basis during his 2015/16 stewardship.

Somerset Fulham

Isn't Silva on record saying that as soon as Chalobah became available, especially for free that he was going to get him?

Thought they worked together at Watford?

Dougie

Quote from: toshes mate on November 10, 2021, 02:00:05 PM
As far as I am aware TK and CK took over recruitment in Summer 2016 at the beginning of Jokanovic's first full season.  You may remember SJ's comment at the time about 'some computer guy (CK) does the recruiting'. Rigg was ousted about this time in 2016 when the CM 'train station' saga  reared its ugly head.

Mike Rigg was Chief Football officer until December 2016, and TK took over as DoF in February 2017. Our best transfer window was 2016, whilst Rigg was at the club. If control was taken away form him five months before he left the club, that's not something I'm aware of.