Muniz

[H4usuallysitting]

I like him...he never gave up....almost scored and kept his head up....it would have been interesting if we only lost Mitro...but we lost 3 player's and BDR wasn't fully fit...not making excuses for him, but if we had our starting 11 and Muniz replacing Mitro, I'm confident we would have won, and would have Muniz down as a goal scorer

Apart from Rodak, this was arguably our best eleven with Muniz replacing Mitro though (in my opinion our best eleven always include TC as well, but many seem to disagree). However reportedly several players were not 100%, which may explain a couple of below par performances. For what it's worth, I thought Muniz had a reasonable game, and surely didn't look any worse than most strikers we face each week.

It's sounding like half the first team are unwell, and some (that underperformed) were playing....

[Carborundum]

Looks a decent player to me.  He's not the type of highly mobile striker that will give Jagielka and Davies particular problems, but that's not his game.  Got himself in position for chances, which is my objective test. Created space reasonably well and Carvalho benefitted from that.   

Some players are just obviously brilliant when warming up.  Dembele mk1 and Aubameyang were both mesmeric when warming up.  This lad isn't quite at that level, but he's pretty good and worth a look if arriving early.

[Bronaldinho]

He's really raw. He's kinda like AK47 in the fact he's got a lot of potential, if he can be coached in the right way. But right now, his technique etc needs to improve.

He's good in the air, works hard but needs to be coached.

I hope it works out for him, the players love him and he's learning from Mitro.

[Nick Bateman]

Muniz was the worst player on the pitch on Wednesday and I'm including Derby. He would wait for the ball to come to him, allowing opponents to nick the ball off his toe. He wasn't anticipating any of the decent crosses, his work rate was very poor, standing still for long periods not chasing down the goalie (as Mitro would) and when he did have half chances he ballooned them into the stands.

I was surprised Silva did not demand more from his team and we are fortunate to still be on top of the table. We cannot have such a lacklustre attitude on Saturday.

[Jim©]

Muniz was the worst player on the pitch on Wednesday and I'm including Derby. He would wait for the ball to come to him, allowing opponents to nick the ball off his toe. He wasn't anticipating any of the decent crosses, his work rate was very poor, standing still for long periods not chasing down the goalie (as Mitro would) and when he did have half chances he ballooned them into the stands.

I was surprised Silva did not demand more from his team and we are fortunate to still be on top of the table. We cannot have such a lacklustre attitude on Saturday.

Wow, Bateman back to trolling again I see.
I suggest you rewatch it. All that you got right was about him waiting for the ball to come to him.

[Twig]

Muniz was the worst player on the pitch on Wednesday and I'm including Derby. He would wait for the ball to come to him, allowing opponents to nick the ball off his toe. He wasn't anticipating any of the decent crosses, his work rate was very poor, standing still for long periods not chasing down the goalie (as Mitro would) and when he did have half chances he ballooned them into the stands.

I was surprised Silva did not demand more from his team and we are fortunate to still be on top of the table. We cannot have such a lacklustre attitude on Saturday.

I assume that's yet another match you didn't go and see?

[S.F.Sorrow]

He's a young player who has left his home on the other side of the world to play for us. He needs to adapt not only to our style of football but to a new culture, a new language, a new way of life. He still has the rest of the season to adapt and show us that he can play a role for us in the Premier League (if we're promoted, we still have a long way to go!). He had a poor game yesterday but it was a tough game where only Carvalho and Ream were up to their usual standards. His goals pr minute ratio is still pretty good.

He may turn out to be a waste of money of course. There's always a risk with young Brazilian players but it's FAR to soon to write him off. I see a lot of potential. At least he has already contributed more than Fonte ever did for us. Now THAT was a waste of money.

[LC]

He's a young player who has left his home on the other side of the world to play for us. He needs to adapt not only to our style of football but to a new culture, a new language, a new way of life. He still has the rest of the season to adapt and show us that he can play a role for us in the Premier League (if we're promoted, we still have a long way to go!). He had a poor game yesterday but it was a tough game where only Carvalho and Ream were up to their usual standards. His goals pr minute ratio is still pretty good.

He may turn out to be a waste of money of course. There's always a risk with young Brazilian players but it's FAR to soon to write him off. I see a lot of potential. At least he has already contributed more than Fonte ever did for us. Now THAT was a waste of money.

Personally, I agree. We spent what £5-7m on him, I don't think that's bad at all. He needs time and games.

[General]

Yes we do need,shall we say a experienced forward at the end of his career,coming on for the odd game,while munis trains with the first team and play in the 23s for adjusting to English football,and if he needs better experience he will have to be loaned out next first half of the season against better opposition.Well where does that leave us,mitro has been with us approx 4 to 5 years and our only recognised forward. Has our world director of football ever realised that you need back up.I mentioned our leader as has just been spouting off how he signed cairney,McDonald and others odoiu etc boasting on American radio.Unfortunately it was the other director of football who your dad sacked went to Burnley and has left them,I doubt tony had much to do with these player recruitments especially from his mums bedroom.

Our recruitment has been excellent this season ,so of course that cant have anything to do with TK unless of course a player flops and then it must be his fault.

Five new players signed in the summer, Muniz, Chalobah, Quina, Gazzanica and Wilson Only Wilson has so far proved worthy of a Championship place.

Without those signings we'd have had a kid in goal last night, no one to play upfront and Chalobah's been injured a lot since he joined. Nothing to grumble about here at all, though some will of course find a way!

That's not accurate. Without Gazza signing, Fabri would've been in the 25 man squad and probably played. Up front we probably would've put BDR in, despite being on the bench and ill, or played with Carvalho or Wilson up front and started Knockaert.

I'd say out of all the signings from the summer only Muniz and Wilson have been consistently in and around the first team to merit being considered successes. The rest have hardly featured. Chalobah may be injured, but where is Quina? (playing U23s?). Gazzaniga is a liability, although by his own standards had a good game yesterday, there were still one or two heart in mouth moments.

Every player has had game time and been in and around the squad if fit. Quina had his chance and didn't impress, he may come good but at least he's only on a loan.

Yeah that's what I'm saying though, quina and Gazza have both had chances in the team and proven to not be anything better than what we already had, ie not worth it.

[Deeping_white]

Yes we do need,shall we say a experienced forward at the end of his career,coming on for the odd game,while munis trains with the first team and play in the 23s for adjusting to English football,and if he needs better experience he will have to be loaned out next first half of the season against better opposition.Well where does that leave us,mitro has been with us approx 4 to 5 years and our only recognised forward. Has our world director of football ever realised that you need back up.I mentioned our leader as has just been spouting off how he signed cairney,McDonald and others odoiu etc boasting on American radio.Unfortunately it was the other director of football who your dad sacked went to Burnley and has left them,I doubt tony had much to do with these player recruitments especially from his mums bedroom.

Our recruitment has been excellent this season ,so of course that cant have anything to do with TK unless of course a player flops and then it must be his fault.

Five new players signed in the summer, Muniz, Chalobah, Quina, Gazzanica and Wilson Only Wilson has so far proved worthy of a Championship place.

Without those signings we'd have had a kid in goal last night, no one to play upfront and Chalobah's been injured a lot since he joined. Nothing to grumble about here at all, though some will of course find a way!

That's not accurate. Without Gazza signing, Fabri would've been in the 25 man squad and probably played. Up front we probably would've put BDR in, despite being on the bench and ill, or played with Carvalho or Wilson up front and started Knockaert.

I'd say out of all the signings from the summer only Muniz and Wilson have been consistently in and around the first team to merit being considered successes. The rest have hardly featured. Chalobah may be injured, but where is Quina? (playing U23s?). Gazzaniga is a liability, although by his own standards had a good game yesterday, there were still one or two heart in mouth moments.

Every player has had game time and been in and around the squad if fit. Quina had his chance and didn't impress, he may come good but at least he's only on a loan.

Yeah that's what I'm saying though, quina and Gazza have both had chances in the team and proven to not be anything better than what we already had, ie not worth it.

But that ignores the point that Quina was a depth option and he was never likely to start when everyone was fit and we needed him at a time when we had one fit attacking midfielder who broke his toe a week later, and we also needed a backup keeper after we released Betts so that's why we had Gazza, who is 100% better than Betts who was a league 1 standard keeper by the time we released him

[Nick Bateman]

Muniz was the worst player on the pitch on Wednesday and I'm including Derby. He would wait for the ball to come to him, allowing opponents to nick the ball off his toe. He wasn't anticipating any of the decent crosses, his work rate was very poor, standing still for long periods not chasing down the goalie (as Mitro would) and when he did have half chances he ballooned them into the stands.

I was surprised Silva did not demand more from his team and we are fortunate to still be on top of the table. We cannot have such a lacklustre attitude on Saturday.

Wow, Bateman back to trolling again I see.
I suggest you rewatch it. All that you got right was about him waiting for the ball to come to him.

I suggest you learn to respect someone's else opinion rather than resort to accuse one who has a different view to your ego-inflated pontificating antithesis of trolling, Jim (Bob)! Did you fail to see Muniz balloon a pretty good chance high into the Hammersmith Stand? How about his ridiculous overhead attempt that equally reached the same orbital trajectory? Passes from Tete and Kebano he didn't even bother to make an effort for. But perhaps you were in the bar knocking back another bevy while all this occured.

And to Twig (let), I saw all 90 minutes of one of Fulham's worst performances, and the worst referee in the Championship Stroud add no time after Derby wasted at least 2 minutes, and constantly award them drop balls after Fulham had possession before they restarted. Seri was rubbish as well.

[Woolly Mammoth]

Do I deduce an air of hostility on this thread.

[colinwhite]

People are entitled to their opinions but if you start slagging off a 20 yr old kid on his league debut for the club in a match where illness has clearly played a part in how the team performed ......in the middle of an eight game unbeaten run ...... in a fantstic start to the season where we are top of the league..... then you really ought to expect a less than impressed response to your argument , particularly when it is obvious to most that he is far from the finished article .... and is clearly a player that our manager (who has done pretty much a faultless job )  sees alot of potential in.

[Deadcowboys]

Not to worry, I suspect Bateman is doing what he does best & gazing at himself in the mirror pondering his own inadequacies & failures.

[Twig]

Muniz was the worst player on the pitch on Wednesday and I'm including Derby. He would wait for the ball to come to him, allowing opponents to nick the ball off his toe. He wasn't anticipating any of the decent crosses, his work rate was very poor, standing still for long periods not chasing down the goalie (as Mitro would) and when he did have half chances he ballooned them into the stands.

I was surprised Silva did not demand more from his team and we are fortunate to still be on top of the table. We cannot have such a lacklustre attitude on Saturday.

Wow, Bateman back to trolling again I see.
I suggest you rewatch it. All that you got right was about him waiting for the ball to come to him.

I suggest you learn to respect someone's else opinion rather than resort to accuse one who has a different view to your ego-inflated pontificating antithesis of trolling, Jim (Bob)! Did you fail to see Muniz balloon a pretty good chance high into the Hammersmith Stand? How about his ridiculous overhead attempt that equally reached the same orbital trajectory? Passes from Tete and Kebano he didn't even bother to make an effort for. But perhaps you were in the bar knocking back another bevy while all this occured.

And to Twig (let), I saw all 90 minutes of one of Fulham's worst performances, and the worst referee in the Championship Stroud add no time after Derby wasted at least 2 minutes, and constantly award them drop balls after Fulham had possession before they restarted. Seri was rubbish as well.

So you didn't go then. You watched it on tv. The ref was by no means that bad, the single thing I agree with is that he should have added a minute or two after the injury in added time.

[Jim©]

I suggest you learn to respect someone's else opinion rather than resort to accuse one who has a different view to your ego-inflated pontificating antithesis of trolling, Jim (Bob)! Did you fail to see Muniz balloon a pretty good chance high into the Hammersmith Stand? How about his ridiculous overhead attempt that equally reached the same orbital trajectory? Passes from Tete and Kebano he didn't even bother to make an effort for. But perhaps you were in the bar knocking back another bevy while all this occured.

And to Twig (let), I saw all 90 minutes of one of Fulham's worst performances, and the worst referee in the Championship Stroud add no time after Derby wasted at least 2 minutes, and constantly award them drop balls after Fulham had possession before they restarted. Seri was rubbish as well.

Oh the irony of being told to respect someone's opinion by not respecting another person 's opinion.

If, like many of us, you had ever kicked a ball, you would appreciate the skill that went into turning a poor cross into an overhead kick that was no more than a foot over the bar (no idea where you get the impression he ballooned it). Your posts seemingly are meant to take the opposite view to many others whether to be contentious, edgy or provoke reaction who knows?

[Arthur]

... the single thing I agree with is that he should have added a minute or two after the injury in added time.

If there were 30 seconds to play when the player got injured, there are still only 30 seconds to play when he gets up again. The fact the game stopped for a couple of minutes doesn't get added on to the playing time.

[Somerset Fulham]

Do I deduce an air of hostility on this thread.

It's going off all over the shop and Statto is nowhere to be seen!

Actually, where is Statto?