Two big weaknesses exposed today

[Neil D]

Also don't understand the corner defending where we put small players on big players and leave our centre backs in zones - not working.

That occurred to me when I saw Bobb (1m 74) on marking duty.  No chance!

[WindyCity]

I've been on about poor corner defense all season long.  At HT in game thread I noted how dodgy we looked on corner defense, with woodwork saving an early goal against.  Still not sorted.

Poor passing in offensive forward movement also thwarted and nullified opportunities.  Very frustrating.

And, finally, finishing (this season and last couple as well) still and always has been a FFC shortcoming.  Had several very good 1st half chances to put game to bed early on, and couldn't see it through.

Disappointing result when clearly a chance to move up the table.

[WindyCity]

Speaking about corner defense, some have mentioned we have small/lightweight players trying to defend against muscle and height.  And that is a problem.  When you have players like Bobb, Kevin, King, Jimenez, and a few others, height advantage favors opposing teams.  We really only have a couple of tall, stronger players that can properly defend (Berge, Bassey, Andersen, etc).  Need to sort something out...

[LittleErn]

Reading this and having not watched the game I thought we'd done really badly and fallen apart against Everton... then I watched the highlights and thought- 'bloody hell we have a dramatic set of fans'..

We had huge amounts of chances to score goals, multiple shots off the post and close shots that just missed/went wide

What I read in the OP vs what I saw couldn't have been more different, from the highlights below it was a question of us not scoring from what looked like an onslaught of opportunities - and nothing to do with Marco, who motivated and set up the team in such a way for us to do so.

Let's not forget how good Everton have been away from home and how average we seemingly made them look.

The other thing I thought and noticed was that for Evertons winner - why wasn't the goal considered a foul on the GK.. their player couldn't have been more of an obstruction if he tried. Perhaps my understanding of the rules if poor, but I thought that type of behaviour against Goalkeepers was frowned upon.

Look, we have lost two games in a row now, but against two in form teams who had a bit of luck on their side and they've been closely fought matches, where we could've/should've got something.

Let's not get overly critical or hyperventilate about it

Today, for whatever reason, didn't come off for us, whereas on many other occasions it most likely would've.

Let's go again

P.s. if bobb played (didn't see anything yet) how'd he do?

Interestingly as well, sky sports commentary says similarly... it actually implied the opposite from what the OP says about subs, and that the double change of Jimenez and Chukwueze was what made us disjointed and allowed Everton to equalise, and the second goal looked like a foul on Leno

https://www.skysports.com/football/live-blog/11661/13503239/fulham-vs-everton-live-premier-league-match-updates-news-score-and-highlights?postid=11011733#liveblog-body

I think that what irks me and others is how the game changed so fundamentally at half- time. With a competent striker we should have scored at least two and probably three in the first half. But after that we were unable to cope with Everton's high press. Not to react with subs until the 75th minute frustrated me. Subs always carry the risk of upsetting the rhythm until the new players have adjusted. The goal was questionable but the Everton player didn't use his arms, as far as I could see, he just stood in Leno's way. I think obstruction involves movement towards the player being obstructed. I've seen them given and not given. Where was the protection?

[SerbianLad]

When you have players like Bobb, Kevin, King, Jimenez, and a few others, height advantage favors opposing teams

Jimenez is pretty tall, by football standards that is, he's somewhere between 187cm and 190cm (somewhere around 6' 2"). For context, Mitro is listed at 189cm everywhere.

[cookieg]

Reading this and having not watched the game I thought we'd done really badly and fallen apart against Everton... then I watched the highlights and thought- 'bloody hell we have a dramatic set of fans'..

We had huge amounts of chances to score goals, multiple shots off the post and close shots that just missed/went wide

What I read in the OP vs what I saw couldn't have been more different, from the highlights below it was a question of us not scoring from what looked like an onslaught of opportunities - and nothing to do with Marco, who motivated and set up the team in such a way for us to do so.

Let's not forget how good Everton have been away from home and how average we seemingly made them look.

The other thing I thought and noticed was that for Evertons winner - why wasn't the goal considered a foul on the GK.. their player couldn't have been more of an obstruction if he tried. Perhaps my understanding of the rules if poor, but I thought that type of behaviour against Goalkeepers was frowned upon.

Look, we have lost two games in a row now, but against two in form teams who had a bit of luck on their side and they've been closely fought matches, where we could've/should've got something.

Let's not get overly critical or hyperventilate about it

Today, for whatever reason, didn't come off for us, whereas on many other occasions it most likely would've.

Let's go again

P.s. if bobb played (didn't see anything yet) how'd he do?

Interestingly as well, sky sports commentary says similarly... it actually implied the opposite from what the OP says about subs, and that the double change of Jimenez and Chukwueze was what made us disjointed and allowed Everton to equalise, and the second goal looked like a foul on Leno

https://www.skysports.com/football/live-blog/11661/13503239/fulham-vs-everton-live-premier-league-match-updates-news-score-and-highlights?postid=11011733#liveblog-body

The thing is it's the manner in which we lost it in the second half which is frustrating. We could well have been home and hosed at half time but Moyes did a number on Marco and he didn't do anything early enough to try to steady the side. Why wait so long to make changes? Marco is so predictable with his late substitutions Moyes would have told his players what they need to do so surely why couldn't Marco have been bold and made changes at half time to throw a spanner in Moyes' game plan? And as for making substitutions when they had a corner was a real school boy error.

On another day we could have won that but watching the game it felt inevitable that they would score in the second half.

The irony here, isn't that we lost, but the fact that so many people seem to have said the solution lay in making substitutions and doing so earlier..and that both of the goals we conceded came straight after having made substitutions - within minutes..

So everyone said make substitutions, and Marco did, and by doing so we lost our composure and rhythm and conceded two goals..

I also think the 2nd goal was a foul and refs and var are having a shocking season so far

I do get the irony re subs but making subs when you are defending a corner is bound to cause some uncertainty as to should be marking who etc. Let the corner be taken get it dealt with and then make subs. Obviously there's no guarantee that they wouldn't have scored anyway given their game plan on Leno but at least the defence would have been organised to a certain extent rather than than bring on new players.

[Logicalman]

I think he means Timothy Castagne in this context, for those who are asking.

Yup, My thoughts exactly, plus his colleague, JC.