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Started by CorkedHat, February 02, 2014, 07:21:22 PM

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CorkedHat

Who remembers that day at Northampton – April 23, 1966? We had to win and we did. Keep the Faith.
What we do for others will live on. What we do for ourselves will die with us

Chesh

Well said - and that belief will hopefully resonate onto the pitch as well

COYWs!
Made in Hammersmith (1968)

Southcoastffc


We WILL pull through but we need our twelfth man.   049:gif  049:gif  049:gif


The world is made up of electrons, protons, neurons, possibly muons and, definitely, morons.


LBNo11

...agreed, but the twelfth man needs a new coach and manager, no noise in the Hammersmith End any more, it was embarrassing yesterday, like the team, no fight, no passion...
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Chesh

Quote from: LBNo11 on February 02, 2014, 07:36:05 PM
...agreed, but the twelfth man needs a new coach and manager, no noise in the Hammersmith End any more, it was embarrassing yesterday, like the team, no fight, no passion...

Yep, our support at home is woeful
Made in Hammersmith (1968)

CorkedHat

We took about 7,000 to Northampton that day. It was like a home game. Our twelfth man was the ref who gave us a couple of decisions that were blatantly incorrect in our favour, including an offside where our player was so offside he was in the next suburb
What we do for others will live on. What we do for ourselves will die with us


Andy S

I agree but one feeds off the other. Remember "Stand up if you still believe" and we did and so did they. The rest is history. I remember going to Portsmouth on the last day a few years back. Another great day. The players need to start believing and we will be fine. We have had so little to cheer for so long. But that could be about to change. Who is going on Tuesday?

copthornemike

Some good points - remember the Man City match a few weeks ago. If the team looks 'up for it' so will the fans. The moment the team got a goal so did the fans and City's players were soon out of their comfort zone.

epsomraver

Quote from: LBNo11 on February 02, 2014, 07:36:05 PM
...agreed, but the twelfth man needs a new coach and manager, no noise in the Hammersmith End any more, it was embarrassing yesterday, like the team, no fight, no passion...

There was some  good noise in the JH but after the second goal what can you cheer about?


LBNo11

...Dave, not intending to appear as a pedant, but cheering is for celebrating; singing and chanting is for encouragement, even in the face of adversity.

I would hate if the worst case scenario does happen, that others would judge our fans in being culpable for the lack of atmosphere at the once named 'Fortress Fulham'.

Recent evidence is such that many of the old singers have given up trying to get the new fans to let themselves go and contribute to sustained support. Once we had a drum, right at the back of H6, a former stronghold of the most vociferous 'old school', the drum even had it's own seat. But complaints about the noise it made (a drum intended to make a noise? shock horror!) lead to it being banished, add to that the period where the stewards were over-zealous in preventing standing (at the back)and slowly those former stalwarts have given up and moved to quieter parts of the ground.

That leaves the back of H5 and parts of H4, predominantly the younger fans making the noise. They usually try to get the rest of the crowd going, but lack of knowledge of old chants coupled with the dirge like hate songs aimed at out nearest rivals and nobody appearing to come up with new or funny / original chants gives little material to drum up support (pun intended).

People pay their money and they make their choice, but if they choose not to get involved in being more demonstrative I wish they would go to the more sedentary parts of the ground - and I wish the club would advise those who want to buy a season ticket in the Hammersmith End that it is traditionally where fans make the noise and are encouraged to do so.

Yesterday, apart from the usual suspects, I felt virtually alone, and quite frankly at my age maybe I should join the ranks of the 'mutes' and save my voice and energy, it doesn't bide well for times when we are in trouble and need support inn the face of such adversity, now, or in the future...
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Berserker

I'm better at away matches but only if on my own. I let me hair down more then as nobody that knows me sees me making an arse of myself
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LBNo11

...be careful about letting your hair down Berserker, in  my case it became permanent.. :008:
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CorkCity

LB, stop banging on about the drum
"don't dwell on reality ,it will only keep you from greatness"

LBNo11

Quote from: CorkCity on February 02, 2014, 08:58:37 PM
LB, stop banging on about the drum

...sorry, but I think it is cymballic of our demise..;)
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epsomraver

Quote from: LBNo11 on February 02, 2014, 08:30:50 PM
...Dave, not intending to appear as a pedant, but cheering is for celebrating; singing and chanting is for encouragement, even in the face of adversity.

I would hate if the worst case scenario does happen, that others would judge our fans in being culpable for the lack of atmosphere at the once named 'Fortress Fulham'.

Recent evidence is such that many of the old singers have given up trying to get the new fans to let themselves go and contribute to sustained support. Once we had a drum, right at the back of H6, a former stronghold of the most vociferous 'old school', the drum even had it's own seat. But complaints about the noise it made (a drum intended to make a noise? shock horror!) lead to it being banished, add to that the period where the stewards were over-zealous in preventing standing (at the back)and slowly those former stalwarts have given up and moved to quieter parts of the ground.

That leaves the back of H5 and parts of H4, predominantly the younger fans making the noise. They usually try to get the rest of the crowd going, but lack of knowledge of old chants coupled with the dirge like hate songs aimed at out nearest rivals and nobody appearing to come up with new or funny / original chants gives little material to drum up support (pun intended).

People pay their money and they make their choice, but if they choose not to get involved in being more demonstrative I wish they would go to the more sedentary parts of the ground - and I wish the club would advise those who want to buy a season ticket in the Hammersmith End that it is traditionally where fans make the noise and are encouraged to do so.

Yesterday, apart from the usual suspects, I felt virtually alone, and quite frankly at my age maybe I should join the ranks of the 'mutes' and save my voice and energy, it doesn't bide well for times when we are in trouble and need support inn the face of such adversity, now, or in the future...

I agree Ed, perhaps cheering was a poor choice of words, people did try with" come on Fulham" and against some opinion the clappers generated a lot of noise for some who would not normally join in, We remarked that there was little coming from the back of the Hammersmith end,  I agree there are too many hate the filth songs when they do sing .being in J block we were close to the away fans who were in full voice especially after their goals so we were drowned out as such. It really is a chicken and egg situation , I was pleased to see Sidwell still trying to rally the players as we kicked off after the third goal , lets hope we do get some excitement on the pitch soon that carries over onto the stands


The Swan

LBNo11.
            Good post. I for one cheer,sing, crriticise  and support my team. As you know I have done this since 1961.
    It the early 70's my daughters would often ask me ,why I supported Fulham when they lose so many games.I told them once a Fulham supporter always a Fulham supporter.
    I had a phone call from my 4 year old granddaughter on Saturday evening following the game. She asked me if I was upset because Fulham had lost another game and maybe I should support another team. I love my granddaughter and I gave her the same answer I had given her mum in the 70's, once a Fulham supporter always a Fulham supporter.
All us supporters must cheer our team and hope that we win enough games to get the points to avoid relegation.
The Swan

Julius Geezer

Quote from: LBNo11 on February 02, 2014, 08:30:50 PM
...Dave, not intending to appear as a pedant, but cheering is for celebrating; singing and chanting is for encouragement, even in the face of adversity.

I would hate if the worst case scenario does happen, that others would judge our fans in being culpable for the lack of atmosphere at the once named 'Fortress Fulham'.

Recent evidence is such that many of the old singers have given up trying to get the new fans to let themselves go and contribute to sustained support. Once we had a drum, right at the back of H6, a former stronghold of the most vociferous 'old school', the drum even had it's own seat. But complaints about the noise it made (a drum intended to make a noise? shock horror!) lead to it being banished, add to that the period where the stewards were over-zealous in preventing standing (at the back)and slowly those former stalwarts have given up and moved to quieter parts of the ground.

That leaves the back of H5 and parts of H4, predominantly the younger fans making the noise. They usually try to get the rest of the crowd going, but lack of knowledge of old chants coupled with the dirge like hate songs aimed at out nearest rivals and nobody appearing to come up with new or funny / original chants gives little material to drum up support (pun intended).

People pay their money and they make their choice, but if they choose not to get involved in being more demonstrative I wish they would go to the more sedentary parts of the ground - and I wish the club would advise those who want to buy a season ticket in the Hammersmith End that it is traditionally where fans make the noise and are encouraged to do so.

Yesterday, apart from the usual suspects, I felt virtually alone, and quite frankly at my age maybe I should join the ranks of the 'mutes' and save my voice and energy, it doesn't bide well for times when we are in trouble and need support inn the face of such adversity, now, or in the future...

So true.

The lack of 'proper' support is worrying.

People sit there waiting for things to happen without even murmuring a positive word.

If you look at the teams around us - West Ham, Cardiff, Palace have all got powerful support, week in week out.

Chesh

Quote from: Julius Geezer on February 02, 2014, 09:40:15 PM
Quote from: LBNo11 on February 02, 2014, 08:30:50 PM
...Dave, not intending to appear as a pedant, but cheering is for celebrating; singing and chanting is for encouragement, even in the face of adversity.

I would hate if the worst case scenario does happen, that others would judge our fans in being culpable for the lack of atmosphere at the once named 'Fortress Fulham'.

Recent evidence is such that many of the old singers have given up trying to get the new fans to let themselves go and contribute to sustained support. Once we had a drum, right at the back of H6, a former stronghold of the most vociferous 'old school', the drum even had it's own seat. But complaints about the noise it made (a drum intended to make a noise? shock horror!) lead to it being banished, add to that the period where the stewards were over-zealous in preventing standing (at the back)and slowly those former stalwarts have given up and moved to quieter parts of the ground.

That leaves the back of H5 and parts of H4, predominantly the younger fans making the noise. They usually try to get the rest of the crowd going, but lack of knowledge of old chants coupled with the dirge like hate songs aimed at out nearest rivals and nobody appearing to come up with new or funny / original chants gives little material to drum up support (pun intended).

People pay their money and they make their choice, but if they choose not to get involved in being more demonstrative I wish they would go to the more sedentary parts of the ground - and I wish the club would advise those who want to buy a season ticket in the Hammersmith End that it is traditionally where fans make the noise and are encouraged to do so.

Yesterday, apart from the usual suspects, I felt virtually alone, and quite frankly at my age maybe I should join the ranks of the 'mutes' and save my voice and energy, it doesn't bide well for times when we are in trouble and need support inn the face of such adversity, now, or in the future...

So true.

The lack of 'proper' support is worrying.

People sit there waiting for things to happen without even murmuring a positive word.

If you look at the teams around us - West Ham, Cardiff, Palace have all got powerful support, week in week out.

:plus one: :plus one:
Made in Hammersmith (1968)


Tonywa

Quote from: CorkedHat on February 02, 2014, 07:21:22 PM
Who remembers that day at Northampton – April 23, 1966? We had to win and we did. Keep the Faith.

One of the most extraordinary days in the club's history.  Unforgettable!

LBNo11

Quote from: Tonywa on February 02, 2014, 10:09:00 PM
Quote from: CorkedHat on February 02, 2014, 07:21:22 PM
Who remembers that day at Northampton – April 23, 1966? We had to win and we did. Keep the Faith.

One of the most extraordinary days in the club's history.  Unforgettable!


...I remember being in a bar near Motspur Park where Corked Hat and I watched the drama unfold away at Man Citeh at the last 'Great Escape' 2-0 down and certain relegation - but something miraculous happened that day that fed hope into our psyche, we celebrated so hard I forgot where I lived. A vast expanse now divided Corked Hat and myself, but I hope to celebrate again at the end of the season with my old fiend. We Are The Whites...
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