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OK... I AM FRANKLY SICK OF YOU ALL... and I expect better from you...

Started by mccscratch, September 23, 2010, 02:11:35 PM

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mccscratch

Enough of the slagging off Eddie Johnson...face it...for the next few weeks...he will be playing up top for our team...the very team we all support...

Constantly in every thread it seems people on here dismiss him... not good enough, no skills, donkey this, donkey that...

SHUT THE HELL UP... Half of you don't know what you are even talking about... He has played in the last three matches and honestly is not anywhere near horrible like you all claim over and over and over ad nauseum...

Perhaps 1 out of the 1000 of you even went to Stoke and yet are giving no credit into the fact that we actually were the better side once he came on in the 57th minute... The one or two reports from guys that actually made the trip on over on the offal stated that he was actually not bad and made their defense a little shakier with the threat of the through ball...You all act like this kid has never scored a goal in his life despite the fact that he was one of the more prolific strikers in MLS and scored important goals for a team still taking part in Europa League who actually wanted him back...No the MLS and the Greek Superleague are not the Prem but guess what??? We have no fricking healthy strikers right now (Also you lot that are screaming for David Elm are just retarded...he is nowhere near as useful as Eddie) and until they come back he might very well play an important part for us over the next month... Get off his back and starting cheering him on as he is a confidence player...

I have seen Eddie score lots of goals for Kansas City as that is my MLS team and he actually is a very decent footballer but most of you can't get a hold of the fact that players improve and adapt at different paces... the fact is Mark Hughes would never have him near the pitch if he was as awful as you all say... also for you morons that state "Heck, I am better than EJ"... get off it...cause your are not and never will be...

:dft007:
Just score 3+ goals a game and we will gain promotion...I promise

Peabody

When you say "you all" do you mean us all? if so, I would like you to show me a post were I have criticised EJ.

mccscratch

Sorry Peabody...Yank figure of speech... Thanks for backing EJ.
Just score 3+ goals a game and we will gain promotion...I promise


Lighthouse

I too have supported him as our only forward and have even named him ahead of Gera. So it hurts when you are criticised for supporting EJ and then hurts again when you are told you are not supporting him enough. I can do without this constant and needless attacks.  :012:
The above IS NOT A LEGAL DOCUMENT. It is an opinion.

We may yet hear the horse talk.

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White Noise

I honestly don't think its an EJ thing specifically mccscratch I think Elm, EJ, AL and Kamara have all had a lot of flack over recent months - almost none of it deserved in my opinion but it seems that if you are injured or not getting in the first team for any other reason you are a bad person who is taking our hard spent supporter pounds.

The bottom line is that Sparky seems to think he is worth perservering with and he should therefore get his chance over the next couple of months to show what he can do. He had a very good pre-season by all accounts and I think Sparky's more attacking style will benefit EJ in the long run.

TonyGilroy


I hope EJ proves his doubters wrong but nothing that I've seen from him gives me any confidence that he will.



AlFayedsChequebook

Wake up on the wrong side of bed this morning mrscratch?

You infact highlight the exact problem with Eddie Johnson in your rant - he is the last resort. We have no other fit and viable strikers for the Everton game so we have to go with last resort Eddie. Why has he not played much and consistently shifted out on loan? Probably because he is not good enough. Surely if he was any good he would have started a few games under Hodgson?

Yes he has scored in the US and yes he is not as bad as we all make out but he is certainly no great shakes either. I would love him to prove me wrong and knock in 10 goals this season but I think Hangeland has a better chance of notching that tally than EJ.

I do still have a belief that EJ will grab a last minute winner at some point this season - at which point you will no doubt come back on here and scream in our faces about how you were right etc.

Jimpav

I can't recall criticising his performances to date but maybe now could be my big chance.

IMO EJ is abottom of the barrel striker. I will cheer him on at Everton if he plays but I do not rate him as a player and do not feel that he has enough skill to become a fully fledged PL striker - starting week in and week out.

BZ took a hell of a slagging but blossomed into a fine player. AJ is regularly and wrongly written off but is also a good striker and I will no doubt point this out again when he is fit again and poaching goals once more.

It's nothing personal against EJ, I just don't think he is good enough to be starting for us.

Rambling_Syd_Rumpo

for me he hasn't done anything wrong,due to the fact he hasn't done anything of any note yet,
now is his time to shine,if he goes on that pitch in a Fulham shirt he has my backing that's a given,so lets see what the boy can do!


LBNo11

...and I'm sick of sweeping generalisations!

Employing Blitzkrieg tactics to post your points of view will not be a popular stance, and you cannot change opinions that people may have formed from what they themselves have viewed.

The only person who can make those who doubt his ability at this level (and I'm one) is Eddie Johnson, and if he scores 15 goals this season do you think I will be sad at being proved wrong..?

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Airfix

Am I included?  I never said a word about Eddie Johnson on any forum ever.  I don't think any comment about the relative merits of a player, no matter who he plays for, ever justifies the outburst that you have thrown out at us.  Evidently there are some, perhaps many, who do not agree with your point of view - so what?  It happens, deal with it.

Frankly, I see no reason for you to get your tits in a tangle over this.

Grow up, eh?

YankeeJim

As a yank, I'm afraid I'm am with the majority.  "honestly is not anywhere near horrible" is a description of me and I'm old & fat. And as much as I would like to believe, I am not Premiership quality. Lets all hope EJ is the break out story of the league this year, but lets all be real. Come on back fast Bobby!!
Its not that I could and others couldn't.
Its that I did and others didn't.


Terry Tibbs

Les, that's strong from you (pardon the 70s Fulham pun!!)

Have you had some new directive to crack down!!??

Quote from: LBNo11 on September 23, 2010, 02:32:36 PM
...and I'm sick of sweeping generalisations!

Employing Blitzkrieg tactics to post your points of view will not be a popular stance, and you cannot change opinions that people may have formed from what they themselves have viewed.

The only person who can make those who doubt his ability at this level (and I'm one) is Eddie Johnson, and if he scores 15 goals this season do you think I will be sad at being proved wrong..?

:red:

SmithyFFC

As yet, in England, EJ hasn't proved himself to be good enough. He wasn't good enough first time round at Fulham or on-loan at Cardiff. He did score a few goals in the Greek League for what is a good team which beat Atletico Madrid in the Europa League! Lets hope Hughes has seen enough in training and his appearance from the bench that he believes he can get the best out of EJ and make him a decent striker and score 5 maybe 10 goals this year.
FTID

aFFCn_Fan

Dempsey took time to gain the status he has now, and as I understand it he was a hot prospect from the US. He needed to adapt, and has for a couple of seasons been one of our standouts, and is one of my favourite players in the current set up. BZ has taken a season to gain the following and respect (England call up) that he has done.

From what I saw of EJ most recently, in the Wolves game, he didn't excite me as a striking option when he came on, while he seems quick his touch was a little off. But he has not been given the chance to build his confidence. We all trusted that Roy knew who was worthy of keeping hold of and playing, and he sent EJ out on loan. I hope Hughes has seen that he can work with Eddie's potential.

I wanted Elm to be our cheap, little secret that scored for fun. But he wasn't, and I don't think he will be. Between him and EJ, they are our most out and out strikers who are fit at the moment. Honestly from what I have seen they are both Championship level. I would love to be proved wrong (does happen a lot :dft001:), and I hope Hughes helps to build EJ's potential into the player he has been in the USA.  Perhaps partnering him with Dempsey might rebuild confidence?
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epsomraver

Quote from: White Noise on September 23, 2010, 02:20:12 PM
I honestly don't think its an EJ thing specifically mccscratch I think Elm, EJ, AL and Kamara have all had a lot of flack over recent months - almost none of it deserved in my opinion but it seems that if you are injured or not getting in the first team for any other reason you are a bad person who is taking our hard spent supporter pounds.

The bottom line is that Sparky seems to think he is worth perservering with and he should therefore get his chance over the next couple of months to show what he can do. He had a very good pre-season by all accounts and I think Sparky's more attacking style will benefit EJ in the long run.

WN he was poor in preseason, missed an absolute sitter at Bournmouth my granny would have scored. he has had so many chances to shine couldn't do it in the fizzy pop even,had a good chance at Stoke and missed ,sorry scratch this is just the old don't slag a yank player nonsense again

Terry Tibbs



TonyGilroy

I've actually got more hope for Elm than EJ.

I think he's been unlucky with illness and injury. His big weakness is a lack of pace but he's big, willing, has decent touch and, I think, a fair amount of nous.

Used as a target man I can see him being useful for Gera, Dempsey, Dembele etc.

EJ's game essentially is the same as AJ but without the necessary control or composure.

But as others have said - prove me wrong. Please.

mccscratch

Quote from: epsomraver on September 23, 2010, 03:00:54 PM
Quote from: White Noise on September 23, 2010, 02:20:12 PM
I honestly don't think its an EJ thing specifically mccscratch I think Elm, EJ, AL and Kamara have all had a lot of flack over recent months - almost none of it deserved in my opinion but it seems that if you are injured or not getting in the first team for any other reason you are a bad person who is taking our hard spent supporter pounds.

The bottom line is that Sparky seems to think he is worth perservering with and he should therefore get his chance over the next couple of months to show what he can do. He had a very good pre-season by all accounts and I think Sparky's more attacking style will benefit EJ in the long run.
WN he was poor in preseason, missed an absolute sitter at Bournmouth my granny would have scored. he has had so many chances to shine couldn't do it in the fizzy pop even,had a good chance at Stoke and missed ,sorry scratch this is just the old don't slag a yank player nonsense again

Epsom...did you see the Stoke miss or did you just listen to GJ? Quite frankly we all know GJ has his favorites and the ones he constantly knocks on the broadcast... Clint was not given any credit by GJ for quite some time until it could not be avoided... The account of the miss at Stoke was he did a good job getting into the position and was being ridden by the defender during contact...so hardly a sitter...
Just score 3+ goals a game and we will gain promotion...I promise