The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2018/19

[Twig]

Same old boring lot slagging off a player before he has even put his boots on. Be positive. We used the loan facility well last season. We are doing the same this one.

I hadn't noticed anyone slagging him off, must have missed those comments.  Personally, I agree that he would be a great loan for us.

[Woolly Mammoth]

When does it become apparent that getting Targett could be the best move?

Everyone knows we need a LB, so will price their players up. Targett would need no embedding in time, and crucially, will allow Sessegnon to play further forward.

£15m is not too bad for a young English LB, who already knows the club.

The problem is that Southampton have worked out that they want to keep him - as far as I can see they have never given a price and we just keep making offers to see if anything will tempt them, while looking elsewhere as a back up plan

The problem is Southampton are fully aware of our need and think they have us over a barrel.
15million for a full back who is good in the Championship but unable to command a place in the Southampton team is ridiculous.

We should have a good hard look elsewhere.

The important bit being left out here is, he's not quite good enough to get in front of a champions league winner and international class full back. He would be good enough otherwise, we know that based on how well he did last season. I'd personally pay 15m for him all things considered.

In the absence of any other suitable candidate, under the circumstances and with time not on our side, and I appreciate that Fulham want a good deal out of this.
Hence the reason why so far we are not marching to the beat of the Southampton Drum.
But sometimes there comes a moment unfortunately when you can't fanny around any longer, when  that moment is I do not know.
But Matt Targett would be a good signing. Certainly good enough for us.

[Twig]

Am I the only one not terrible excited by the prospect of loaning Chambers? He has been schooled in the Arsene Wenger school of defending, i.e. always looks likely to give away a goal, and whenever I've seen him play I've not been overly impressed. He's a reasonable footballer, just not a great defender.

Well I think he will be a terrific addition and as for your view that the "Arsene Wenger school of defending" involves always looking likely to give away a goal, well I really can't see that Arsenal coach their defenders that way.

[Ordar]

With the Targett situation, I havent seen that our last 13m bit has been rejected? So I assume that negotiations are ongoing. Unless paying an extra million or 2 is going to prohibit any other signings that we're looking to make, just get it done.

Personally, I think we could do better than Targett, especially for the money that is being mentioned for him. However we know what we're buying with Targett and know that he can fit into the system, which I suppose is a valuable, safe advantage that buying him has over a better, overseas player at this juncture of the window.

Although realistically we only have Seri, Schurrle and Chambers who will currently be first choice from the team that finished last season, so continuity shouldnt be an excuse at all

[Count Flapula]

How quickly Ream seems to have been discarded in favor of Mawson, who is injured and who's team was relegated last year, is beyond me. Neither Chambers (if it happens) nor Mawson walk in and take over Reeeaamm's slot. POTS and vital to our promotion. Those two can fight it out for the 2nd CB position until Ream loses his spot for good reason.

Agreed people are so fickle!!! Ream won't be discarded, 1 of our best players last season, we should welcome any new signings but until now (including an injured Mawson), we haven't got anybody who can walk in and take Tim's place!
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Fully agree, one of the centre back places has to be Ream's to lose.

I agree that Ream should be a starter, he was immense last year.  I don't agree with Mao O'Connor's comment that Mawson's ability or readiness to start has anything to do with the fact that his side were relegated.  That is irrelevant.

All of the above is a moot point as Ream is a LCB and Mawson / Chambers are RCB, so the latter two will be in direct competition with each other to play alongside Ream or MLM. Ream will get this chance for sure this season and rightly so.

Chambers would be another cracking signing. Think he also has more pace about him than the other CBs on our books which is another bonus. Heartening to hear he comes from a Fulham supporting family if thats true!

[Tabby]

All of the above is a moot point as Ream is a LCB and Mawson / Chambers are RCB, so the latter two will be in direct competition with each other to play alongside Ream or MLM. Ream will get this chance for sure this season and rightly so.

Mawson played on the left last season. It is possible that if we get Chambers in, we could end up playing Chambers/Mawson.

[Holders]

I think the point with Targett is that we're trying to get a player whom they weren't planning on selling. Everyone has their price but that can be rather higher if there's no intention to sell and they may be looking for silly money. Of course they think they have us over a barrel (deadline/ease of fit) and I would hope that the club has a back-up option.

[Skatzoffc]

Am I the only one not terrible excited by the prospect of loaning Chambers? He has been schooled in the Arsene Wenger school of defending, i.e. always looks likely to give away a goal, and whenever I've seen him play I've not been overly impressed. He's a reasonable footballer, just not a great defender.

A Southampton fan I work with rates him as a RB. Good at going forward which suits our play.
He says Arsenal played him out of position as a RCB and he's not strong enough in that position.

So as a covering RCB or a RB starter I'd give him a go tbh.

[hovewhite]

I think the point with Targett is that we're trying to get a player whom they weren't planning on selling. Everyone has their price but that can be rather higher if there's no intention to sell and they may be looking for silly money. Of course they think they have us over a barrel (deadline/ease of fit) and I would hope that the club has a back-up option.

he's there player so they call the shots,money, players contract.

[Holders]

Am I the only one not terrible excited by the prospect of loaning Chambers? He has been schooled in the Arsene Wenger school of defending, i.e. always looks likely to give away a goal, and whenever I've seen him play I've not been overly impressed. He's a reasonable footballer, just not a great defender.

A Southampton fan I work with rates him as a RB. Good at going forward which suits our play.
He says Arsenal played him out of position as a RCB and he's not strong enough in that position.

So as a covering RCB or a RB starter I'd give him a go tbh.

Wherever, he sounds like versatile cover and most of our acquisitions seem to be at least partly chosen for versatility.

[Holders]

I think the point with Targett is that we're trying to get a player whom they weren't planning on selling. Everyone has their price but that can be rather higher if there's no intention to sell and they may be looking for silly money. Of course they think they have us over a barrel (deadline/ease of fit) and I would hope that the club has a back-up option.

he's there player so they call the shots,money, players contract.

I think that's what I saw saying but you've put it more succinctly.

[Skatzoffc]

Am I the only one not terrible excited by the prospect of loaning Chambers? He has been schooled in the Arsene Wenger school of defending, i.e. always looks likely to give away a goal, and whenever I've seen him play I've not been overly impressed. He's a reasonable footballer, just not a great defender.

A Southampton fan I work with rates him as a RB. Good at going forward which suits our play.
He says Arsenal played him out of position as a RCB and he's not strong enough in that position.

So as a covering RCB or a RB starter I'd give him a go tbh.

Wherever, he sounds like versatile cover and most of our acquisitions seem to be at least partly chosen for versatility.

Agreed.
A good policy to have a few players who are comfortable in a number of positions.

COYW!

[fulhamben]

Am I the only one not terrible excited by the prospect of loaning Chambers? He has been schooled in the Arsene Wenger school of defending, i.e. always looks likely to give away a goal, and whenever I've seen him play I've not been overly impressed. He's a reasonable footballer, just not a great defender.

A Southampton fan I work with rates him as a RB. Good at going forward which suits our play.
He says Arsenal played him out of position as a RCB and he's not strong enough in that position.

So as a covering RCB or a RB starter I'd give him a go tbh.

Wherever, he sounds like versatile cover and most of our acquisitions seem to be at least partly chosen for versatility.

Agreed.
A good policy to have a few players who are comfortable in a number of positions.

COYW!

yep, we might not have gone up, if our right footed left back couldn't have slotted in as a CB. I never used to be a fan of the jack of all trades, but it has served us well in the last couple of  seasons

[Slaphead in Qatar]

This gooner  is not happy with Callum leaving

https://paininthearsenal.com/2018/08/06/arsenal-calum-chambers-fulham-mistake/

[Woolly Mammoth]

Arsenal's loss is our gain thankfully and hopefully.

[AllyWhite]

Am I the only one not terrible excited by the prospect of loaning Chambers? He has been schooled in the Arsene Wenger school of defending, i.e. always looks likely to give away a goal, and whenever I've seen him play I've not been overly impressed. He's a reasonable footballer, just not a great defender.

A Southampton fan I work with rates him as a RB. Good at going forward which suits our play.
He says Arsenal played him out of position as a RCB and he's not strong enough in that position.

So as a covering RCB or a RB starter I'd give him a go tbh.

No way. I've watched almost every Arsenal game (and Fulham of course please don't stone me) for the last 3 seasons and every time Chambers played, he impressed at RCB not RB.

[AllyWhite]

This gooner  is not happy with Callum leaving

https://paininthearsenal.com/2018/08/06/arsenal-calum-chambers-fulham-mistake/

And this Arsenal fan writes "Chambers is, as it stands, our best defender from last year." And do some of you still think that he's not good enough?

[Woolly Mammoth]

Am I the only one not terrible excited by the prospect of loaning Chambers? He has been schooled in the Arsene Wenger school of defending, i.e. always looks likely to give away a goal, and whenever I've seen him play I've not been overly impressed. He's a reasonable footballer, just not a great defender.

A Southampton fan I work with rates him as a RB. Good at going forward which suits our play.
He says Arsenal played him out of position as a RCB and he's not strong enough in that position.

So as a covering RCB or a RB starter I'd give him a go tbh.

No way. I've watched almost every Arsenal game (and Fulham of course please don't stone me) for the last 3 seasons and every time Chambers played, he impressed at RCB not RB.

That's even better news.

[WhiteJC]

 
Lucas Perez also going to Fulham for just £5million – Arsenal clearout gathers pace
Just after it was confirmed that the Arsenal defender Calum Chambers was moving to Fulham on loan, we have now heard from Lucas' Perez's agent, who denied any contact with Sporting Lisbon the other day, now admits that his client could be moving across London as well... CalcioMercato reported today...

Despite little contact being made the other day, Lucas Perez's agent, Rodrigo Lovelle, spoke exclusively to Sam Wilson of CalcioMercato.com this morning, confirming that his player could well be on the way out of Arsenal and to West Ham.

Lovelle said, when asked about contact with West Ham: "West Ham is an option, he might leave [Arsenal]"

Then, Lovelle justified the potential move, stating that "West Ham keeps him in London and in the Premier League, and they are a great club."

So, it appears that now a move for Lucas Perez is finally beginning to materialise, in a deal that could see him move across London for as little as €6 million, a fraction of the €20 million Arsenal signed Lucas for from Deportivo.
I can't say I am surprised at this sale, like I was with Chambers' loan, but the Spaniard could be a good buy for the Cottagers. One thing I will say about these deals is that it means that Arsenal don't seriously consider Fulham to be a rival for the Top Six positions!



http://www.justarsenal.com/lucas-perez-also-going-to-fulham-for-just-5million-arsenal-clearout-gathers-pace/135760

[the nutflush]

I just read this and I am confused.  Is he going to West Ham or coming to us?  Am I missing something here?