NFR - Harvey Elliott

[Porthogs FC]

He'll probably end up at Brentford.

and then on the scrapheap like Fabio.

I'm most sad about Fabio

[SuperFreeman]

 

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/cdxp0dwe1nno

Arrogant, overweight and over-rated. Good to get shot of this waster at the time

[Carborundum]

At the core of this story is that when a premier league team plays particularly well, as Villa have done this season and their players stay relatively fit, a very good footballer or two are going to find themselves without much to do on matchday.  Throw in an unusual contract arrangement and it's no surprise it's HE.   

Which of us would like to be judged by the most regrettable thing we did as a teenager?

I look at Harvey Elliot and there's three evidence points about what he does on the pitch.

At a young age, people who know a lot about football could see that he had standout quality.

He scored five goals at a U-21 finals tournament and was player of the tournament.  He gets in the box and shoots and when he's hot he's hot.  Which of our current midfield can we say that about?

When he came on with fifteen minutes to go against us last season, he sorted out Liverpool's dysfunctional midfield and got them back in the game.  Danny Murphy levels of game 'grip'.

That's enough to be confident that he's got a better than average chance of being quite a force to be reckoned with.  If he's a little older and wiser for having to deal with adversity, he'll be just fine.  If he's incapable of that, it's doubtful.

I'd take the chance.

[cookieg]

It's amazing how many adults have forgotten that they were once teenagers and did silly things.

[Fulham Tup North]

It's amazing how many adults have forgotten that they were once teenagers and did silly things.

It was ok because when I was a teenager there was no internet ... no Social Media and very few camera's ...

Thank God !!     

[Deeping_white]

At the core of this story is that when a premier league team plays particularly well, as Villa have done this season and their players stay relatively fit, a very good footballer or two are going to find themselves without much to do on matchday.  Throw in an unusual contract arrangement and it's no surprise it's HE.   

Which of us would like to be judged by the most regrettable thing we did as a teenager?

I look at Harvey Elliot and there's three evidence points about what he does on the pitch.

At a young age, people who know a lot about football could see that he had standout quality.

He scored five goals at a U-21 finals tournament and was player of the tournament.  He gets in the box and shoots and when he's hot he's hot.  Which of our current midfield can we say that about?

When he came on with fifteen minutes to go against us last season, he sorted out Liverpool's dysfunctional midfield and got them back in the game.  Danny Murphy levels of game 'grip'.

That's enough to be confident that he's got a better than average chance of being quite a force to be reckoned with.  If he's a little older and wiser for having to deal with adversity, he'll be just fine.  If he's incapable of that, it's doubtful.

I'd take the chance.

He was a bit of a scrote as a teenager and the way he left was a bit unsavoury with stuff that happened behind the scenes, but he's undoubtedly a very talented footballer. The biggest issue I think we have at the moment is that we're losing our ball playing talisman in TC and we need to find a long term replacement. For me HE does fit that profile; got an eye for a pass, can get around the pitch and knows where the onion bag is and would be able to play in that TC role. Perhaps not a starter when we go away to the big six unless we play him as a #10 but he would in a midfield three be able to play on the left side and get us moving the ball better. Certainly I can see a scenario where he thrives with Lukic and Berge behind him giving him cover and recycling the ball so he can be a playmaker, and potentially he gets the best out of Lukic making those darting runs forward because he'd be brave enough to try and pick the pass out.

Unfortunately for me, I actually think that the way we play under Silva currently would be a waste of his talents, we need someone willing to take more risks or be more direct in our build up to get the best out of him & our wingers. Whether that's Silva or a new coach is another question entirely.

[Logicalman]

We should sign him

... just until the next 'big' club comes calling and mugs us off yet again? No Thanks.

Like Pat Roberts, he'll learn the hard way, and perhaps someone that the new batch of youngsters should read about. The best thing for him is to be an example.

I do like the fact they still use Pat's Fulham pic on wiki though.