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Martin Jol - will he walk?

Started by ffc73, August 12, 2013, 10:11:08 AM

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Me-ate-Live, innit??

Did we not hear that Khan sticks with the manager to the end of the season ??? that is when he wealds the axe
 

So the ball is in Jol court ???  

Don't you remember when Jol didn't tell Mac he had had commitments at Ajax ??

Fulham frustrated by Ajax's refusal to negotiate over Martin Jol
• Dutch club unwilling to release their manager
• Jol has told Ajax he wants to join London club
David Hytner
The Guardian, Tuesday 20 July 2010 21.21 BST

Ajax do not want to lose Martin Jol despite his desire to join Fulham. Photograph: Keith Williams/Action Images
Martin Jol's proposed move to Fulham has encountered a problem, with Ajax refusing to negotiate with the London club over the manager's release. Alistair Mackintosh, Fulham's chief executive, was in Amsterdam today in an attempt to close the deal but he has been frustrated by the Dutch club's stance.

Fulham remain hopeful they will be able to name Jol as the successor to Roy Hodgson, who has left to manage Liverpool, because the Dutchman has told them that he wants to join them. They have also been satisfied that Jol has told Ajax it is his intention to move to Craven Cottage. Mohamed Al Fayed, the Fulham chairman, is driving the deal and he remains determined to get his man.

Ajax, however, do not want to lose Jol, who led them to second place in last season's Eredivisie and success in the Dutch Cup, and they have dug in their heels. It is believed that they have a contractual clause in their favour. Ajax have recorded losses of €20m (£16.9m) and, to Jol's disgust, have released the striker Marko Pantelic and the midfielder Dennis Rommedahl this summer in the first phase of a cost-cutting scheme. They are set to sell the full-back Gregory van der Wiel to Bayern Munich, while Luis Suárez could also be moved on. The Uruguay striker, who scored 49 goals for Ajax last season, has a close relationship with Jol.

Jol has expressed his frustration at being asked to win the Dutch title with one hand metaphorically tied behind his back but Ajax hope they can persuade him to stay and pacify him with concessions over transfer targets and funds. The financial director, Jeroen Slop, and the chief executive, Rik van den Boog, have reportedly told him that he could have a greater percentage of the proceeds from the potential sales of Van der Wiel and Suárez to rebuild the squad.

Jol was quoted by today's edition of the Amsterdam newspaper De Telegraaf as saying Fulham "were interested but, in principle, I'm staying at Ajax", which prompted bewilderment in west London, where the assumption was the comment had to be some sort of political manoeuvring for the benefit of his countrymen.

Tonight, Jol hinted on Dutch television that he might stay at Ajax if his conditions were met. "I am worried about the future and Ajax is worried, too," he said. "But if they think like me, then we can talk again tomorrow. The other clubs like PSV and Twente are getting better and they are not decreasing their squads like Ajax is. If we are really inventive, we can get to the same level as last season. That is what we are talking about – to make ourselves better."

Perhaps the main attraction for Jol at Fulham would be a freer rein on transfers. Although Al Fayed never allots a specific budget for new signings, he is happy to allow his managers to suggest names to him and he has a history of backing them. His pockets have also been swelled by the £1.5bn sale of Harrods.

One of Jol's frustrations during his time at Tottenham Hotspur was the conflict over transfer policy with the then sporting director, Damien Comolli, while with his next job, at Hamburg, he was unhappy the club embarked on a spending spree after he had left. His job at Ajax has been made more difficult by the extravagant spending of his predecessor, Marco van Basten.

Fulham's players are on their pre-season tour of Sweden and they are preparing for Thursday's game against Halmstad, under the guidance of the caretaker manager Ray Lewington, from a position of uncertainty. Hodgson's departure has, inevitability, prompted a number of them to consider their futures but the capture of Jol has been billed as the big-name to appease them.

The new manager has a difficult act to follow as Hodgson oversaw the most successful period in Fulham's history. He guided them to the final of last season's Europa League, having 12 months previously taken them to a seventh-placed Premier League finish, the club's best finish in the top flight.



While Mo listened  to the fans when  Sanchez was tooling about,  Khan may not,   so we may as well  
toe the party line !!!
Repeat after me :  
Martin Jol is an excellent manager and we are lucky to have him [/b]  

jms

Quote from: Berserker on August 12, 2013, 11:14:55 AM
If we do not play well in the next couple of months he will either go himself or be sacked.

I personally think we have decent enought players but they are not played to their full potential in the right formations and positions
:plus one:

Berserker

Quote from: KCat on August 12, 2013, 06:34:34 PM
Did we not hear that Khan sticks with the manager to the end of the season ??? that is when he wealds the axe
   
b]


While Mo listened  to the fans when  Sanchez was tooling about,  Khan may not,   so we may as well 
toe the party line !!!
Repeat after me : 
Martin Jol is an excellent manager and we are lucky to have him [/b]   


That is just so funny, made me smile
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sussexwhite

Quote from: RaySmith on August 12, 2013, 01:01:22 PM
Bryan  looked great in Costa Rica --against inferior opposition, and I think that is the crux of the matter.

He has struggled with the pace and physicality of the Prem, but having  said that he has put a lot of effort in, and has improved, and been an important player for us.

Then surely Jol needs to improve the standard of players around him (Ruiz), to help him.....no ?

But yes, he might do better in a better team.

RaySmith

Bryan is a class player, and an essential part of the current Fulham set up.

Unique skills and also hardworking, with everything going through him, but he can seem ineffective, just as the team is often ineffective as an attacking unit.

With the right set up, and the right players around him, we might then  get the best out of him. Taarabt might help both Bryan and Berba with his skill and pace.

It's frustrating because I think this Fulham team could really play well under Jol, but hasn't quite clicked - some pieces of the jigsaw are missing - and we just don't threaten the opposition goal enough.

Lighthouse

Quote from: RaySmith on August 12, 2013, 10:47:37 PM
Bryan is a class player, and an essential part of the current Fulham set up.

Unique skills and also hardworking, with everything going through him, but he can seem ineffective, just as the team is often ineffective as an attacking unit.

With the right set up, and the right players around him, we might then  get the best out of him. Taarabt might help both Bryan and Berba with his skill and pace.

It's frustrating because I think this Fulham team could really play well under Jol, but hasn't quite clicked - some pieces of the jigsaw are missing - and we just don't threaten the opposition goal enough.

Yes I thought this last season even with the loss of players. But we looked so insipid and inept at times. I can't help thinking we should be getting more out of a talented player like Ruiz and it isn't all his fault that we are not.
The above IS NOT A LEGAL DOCUMENT. It is an opinion.

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