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Started by Andy S, September 06, 2026, 11:52:52 AM

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Moussa Dembele the 3rd

Quote from: jayffc on September 13, 2026, 02:03:35 PM
Quote from: F(f)CUK on September 12, 2026, 06:27:21 PMI don't boo our team.

However, maybe the booing and the negativity helped AA to look at what he was doing. The team had no shape in the first 3 games and he responded well in the pre match interview.

I just want to see us play with a more balanced approach at home and then we can consider the first 3 games as a blip and we can get on with the season.

Except he already started adapting the system in the game vs Palace with his substitutes towards end of that game when he adjusted the shape. We had a few absolute marish freak moments like garcias that cost us and a penalty that never was, but the basis of what we're trying to do makes sense if done properly.

Not having this idea the boo boys are to thank for making him realise something he wouldn't have otherwise, like losing 3 games wasn't enough 😂 The guys played football at the top level his whole career...real madrid fans on twitter were saying how ridiculous it was to accuse him of being stubborn or unable or unwilling to adapt - citing all the different approaches and formation adjustments he made at Madrid in his time there.

The team has and had a shape it's supposed to play - the plan has been clear...it just wasn't being executed properly and for sure needed refining and adjustment and perfecting as well as the right personnel to play it.. Clearly now being able to push Iwobi back forward and bring in Affengruber are essential components of this system functioning better.


It's a very different approach . We know how we're MEANT to be playing but it's taking some time to execute in game...high wing backs on overlap means our CMs/DMs need to drop back and defend when they do, as well as wingers tucking in when the full back advances. The issue was this wasn't happening effectively.



What you're describing at the end there, is basically how we played under Marco. I think the difference this year is that King has vastly improved, making us more dynamic. And from yesterday I think the addition of Affenburger and Charles next to Berge also help us play more progressively. But the way we played against Liverpool systemwise is not that far off from how Marco set us up. I think just with slight tweaks and the allowance for players to be a little more attacking minded is exactly what we needed after Marco, without a wholesale change of system.

jayffc

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Quote from: Moussa Dembele the 3rd on September 13, 2026, 02:12:09 PM
Quote from: jayffc on September 13, 2026, 02:03:35 PM
Quote from: F(f)CUK on September 12, 2026, 06:27:21 PMI don't boo our team.

However, maybe the booing and the negativity helped AA to look at what he was doing. The team had no shape in the first 3 games and he responded well in the pre match interview.

I just want to see us play with a more balanced approach at home and then we can consider the first 3 games as a blip and we can get on with the season.

Except he already started adapting the system in the game vs Palace with his substitutes towards end of that game when he adjusted the shape. We had a few absolute marish freak moments like garcias that cost us and a penalty that never was, but the basis of what we're trying to do makes sense if done properly.

Not having this idea the boo boys are to thank for making him realise something he wouldn't have otherwise, like losing 3 games wasn't enough 😂 The guys played football at the top level his whole career...real madrid fans on twitter were saying how ridiculous it was to accuse him of being stubborn or unable or unwilling to adapt - citing all the different approaches and formation adjustments he made at Madrid in his time there.

The team has and had a shape it's supposed to play - the plan has been clear...it just wasn't being executed properly and for sure needed refining and adjustment and perfecting as well as the right personnel to play it.. Clearly now being able to push Iwobi back forward and bring in Affengruber are essential components of this system functioning better.


It's a very different approach . We know how we're MEANT to be playing but it's taking some time to execute in game...high wing backs on overlap means our CMs/DMs need to drop back and defend when they do, as well as wingers tucking in when the full back advances. The issue was this wasn't happening effectively.



What you're describing at the end there, is basically how we played under Marco. I think the difference this year is that King has vastly improved, making us more dynamic. And from yesterday I think the addition of Affenburger and Charles next to Berge also help us play more progressively. But the way we played against Liverpool systemwise is not that far off from how Marco set us up. I think just with slight tweaks and the allowance for players to be a little more attacking minded is exactly what we needed after Marco, without a wholesale change of system.

Silva played the system completely lopsided. Everything was geared around attacking on the left side of the pitch. (or when it did end up with Wilson- cutting in to curl one) He pushed Robinson high when in attack and that was the focal point of our attack, but our fullbacks were no where near as advanced at the start of build-up play under Silva. We are far more balanced now in terms of where we attack from, and go through the centre of the pitch also more than under Marco... Our 8 LM and RM also rotate around eachother far more and our system out of possession with high press very different. In attack it's much more fluid with King given more freedom to go out into wide areas and rotate round the other players around him.

It's not a complete abandonment in terms of numbers of players in their supposed position, but the rotation within that system both in attack and defence much more varied.

Silva just became - get ball to Robinson, form triangles on left while right side stayed back to cover. Or chuck to Raul and hope he can flick on to Wilson who cuts in and shoots. Our right width was completely lacking. This is why we had comments from Timmy saying "we now have been given license to kill"

This has been the source of much discussion and frustration for Castagne who's spoken publically on it before- and the reason why Timmy has become the starter now - because that's more his preferred game than Kenny's. Tete was favoured under silva as he is a defensive powerhouse tasked with staying mostly back

McGruber

One interesting thought is, would King have started any games so far under Silva? I kind of think not, but who knows, obviously we don't see the team in training every day...


LittleErn

King of the Cottage requires only one thing to complete his game. He needs to put his boot through the ball when shooting. It's the follow through that gives the power. For those that are old enough Bobby Charlton was an expert at that.