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Arbeloa

Started by South Coast White, June 11, 2026, 08:52:27 AM

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cookieg

Quote from: JimOG on June 14, 2026, 01:49:01 PM
Quote from: KJS on June 14, 2026, 01:35:13 PM
Quote from: Jims Dentist on June 13, 2026, 10:28:56 PMAgree with Elray above.
TK etc seem to have had no plan B in the event of MS deciding to move on.
Also interesting how a number of possible replacements soon ruled themselves out.


I think SK/TK firmly believed Silva was going to sign. If they had meetings planning for next season why would they think anything different? It may well have been that Silva had told them he was off and they went through this whole will he won't he saga to keep the club stable for the last few weeks either way I can't believe that there wasn't a plan b in place. You don't get to be a successful businessman like SK with having contingencies.

Or he did have a plan B diluted didn't want to make it public incase it failed and some fans flagged him off for no reason whatsoever as is pretty much the norm for certain posters on FoF

Far more likely . These are astute business people for whom contingency planning is second nature

cookieg

Quote from: Jims Dentist on June 13, 2026, 10:28:56 PMAgree with Elray above.
TK etc seem to have had no plan B in the event of MS deciding to move on.
Also interesting how a number of possible replacements soon ruled themselves out.


But then they've also ruled themselves out of other jobs by taking time out etc so I don't think you can read anything in to this.

LittleErn

I'll be pleased if this is announced tomorrow, if only to have some certainty which will allow us to concentrate on the transfer market. Whoever the manager is, he will need new and better players in a number of positions. A dominant midfielder and a reliable striker would be my first targets. The rest depend very much on whether or not Robinson and Lukiz move on, and whether one or two of the others can be improved upon. It will then be interesting to see if the new manager can get the best out of ESR, Sess, Iwobi, and Josh King


SuffolkWhite

Currently in Kavos if any other Fulham are about 👍🏻, anyway Arbeloa, he could possibly attract some half decent players. I have also been thinking is his managerial experience that bad, fat Frank plus others had very little experience and still managed in the Prem.
Guy goes into the doctor's.
"Doc, I've got a cricket ball stuck up my backside
"How's that?"
"Don't you start"

Jock White

Spanish Real Madrid supporting friend reckons he's mince, worst Real record 🤷�♂️
Who knows...🤨

Fulham 442

Quote from: Jock White on June 14, 2026, 04:58:25 PMSpanish Real Madrid supporting friend reckons he's mince, worst Real record 🤷�♂️
Who knows...🤨
Well unfortunately we don't get a vote as to who our next manager will be.  Hopefully he will be a great appointment for us, time will tell.  However if he's rubbish, like Ranieri, Magath, Parker etc hope we get rid sooner rather than later before any real damage is done..


perry geyton

I remain positive and am quite happy we didn't get any of the  donkeys that were linked with us

This could turnout to be an extremely shrewd move, time will tell

SuffolkWhite

I've said on another thread, there is an element of luck with any signings player or manager. There really is an element of luck.
Guy goes into the doctor's.
"Doc, I've got a cricket ball stuck up my backside
"How's that?"
"Don't you start"

Andrew

I think he is a risk option and likely a bad mistake. He has no proper experience and I suspect this is a big step backwards.

If he does join, I hope my concerns prove to be unfounded.

But objectively this really is a crazy option to be considering.


Deeping_white

Quote from: Andrew on June 14, 2026, 05:36:10 PMI think he is a risk option and likely a bad mistake. He has no proper experience and I suspect this is a big step backwards.

If he does join, I hope my concerns prove to be unfounded.

But objectively this really is a crazy option to be considering.

Been coaching for several years, started out with youth football and steadily progressed to senior football after winning trophies at all levels. Not sure how it's objectively a crazy option as it feels like that's your subjective opinion

FFC007

Quote from: Deeping_white on June 14, 2026, 06:35:41 PM
Quote from: Andrew on June 14, 2026, 05:36:10 PMI think he is a risk option and likely a bad mistake. He has no proper experience and I suspect this is a big step backwards.

If he does join, I hope my concerns prove to be unfounded.

But objectively this really is a crazy option to be considering.

Been coaching for several years, started out with youth football and steadily progressed to senior football after winning trophies at all levels. Not sure how it's objectively a crazy option as it feels like that's your subjective opinion

Like Magath... :welcome1:

v

Maybe it's the hunger element which has persuaded SK to go with Arbeloa. After all, Magath and Ranieri had both won league titles in England and Germany before joining us, but both disappointed.

Maybe Khan sees something of Silva in Arbeloa. No trophies yet but wanting to get back into management with a point to prove.


Andrew

Quote from: Deeping_white on June 14, 2026, 06:35:41 PM
Quote from: Andrew on June 14, 2026, 05:36:10 PMI think he is a risk option and likely a bad mistake. He has no proper experience and I suspect this is a big step backwards.

If he does join, I hope my concerns prove to be unfounded.

But objectively this really is a crazy option to be considering.

Been coaching for several years, started out with youth football and steadily progressed to senior football after winning trophies at all levels. Not sure how it's objectively a crazy option as it feels like that's your subjective opinion

With all due respect, you are joking aren't you.

He has not managed a senior team except real where he failed, using the talent he had at his disposal as the benchmark. He is moving to new country to a team he knows nothing about.

Of course it's objective based on facts based on lack of experience and failing with the best players.

If you have a different opinion and think this is a brilliant unexpected choice that's up to you.


@jolslover

Not sure how to post a twitter link but have a look at some of the replies here ... Madrid fans speaking very positively on Arbeloa
https://x.com/FulhamTransfer/status/2066207293151007001
STH H3

@jolslover

Quote from: Andrew on June 14, 2026, 07:22:08 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on June 14, 2026, 06:35:41 PM
Quote from: Andrew on June 14, 2026, 05:36:10 PMI think he is a risk option and likely a bad mistake. He has no proper experience and I suspect this is a big step backwards.

If he does join, I hope my concerns prove to be unfounded.

But objectively this really is a crazy option to be considering.

Been coaching for several years, started out with youth football and steadily progressed to senior football after winning trophies at all levels. Not sure how it's objectively a crazy option as it feels like that's your subjective opinion

With all due respect, you are joking aren't you.

He has not managed a senior team except real where he failed, using the talent he had at his disposal as the benchmark. He is moving to new country to a team he knows nothing about.

Of course it's objective based on facts based on lack of experience and failing with the best players.

If you have a different opinion and think this is a brilliant unexpected choice that's up to you.



Pep Guardiola had never managed senior football before Barcelona. Arteta had never managed a senior team before Arsenal. Xabi Alonso was a huge risk before Leverkusen.

All three had worked with some brilliant coaches as assistants (similar to Arbeloa)..
STH H3


I Ronic

Quote from: v on June 14, 2026, 07:07:22 PMMaybe it's the hunger element which has persuaded SK to go with Arbeloa. After all, Magath and Ranieri had both won league titles in England and Germany before joining us, but both disappointed.

Maybe Khan sees something of Silva in Arbeloa. No trophies yet but wanting to get back into management with a point to prove.

Khan has always stressed 'sustainability' and Arbeloa's use of youth probably appeals.

sarnian

Quote from: Andrew on June 14, 2026, 07:22:08 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on June 14, 2026, 06:35:41 PM
Quote from: Andrew on June 14, 2026, 05:36:10 PMI think he is a risk option and likely a bad mistake. He has no proper experience and I suspect this is a big step backwards.

If he does join, I hope my concerns prove to be unfounded.

But objectively this really is a crazy option to be considering.

Been coaching for several years, started out with youth football and steadily progressed to senior football after winning trophies at all levels. Not sure how it's objectively a crazy option as it feels like that's your subjective opinion

With all due respect, you are joking aren't you.

He has not managed a senior team except real where he failed, using the talent he had at his disposal as the benchmark. He is moving to new country to a team he knows nothing about.

Of course it's objective based on facts based on lack of experience and failing with the best players.

If you have a different opinion and think this is a brilliant unexpected choice that's up to you.



If we appointed Pep some on this board would moan probably just for the sake of it.

Cambridge Away

Quote from: v on June 14, 2026, 07:07:22 PMMaybe it's the hunger element which has persuaded SK to go with Arbeloa. After all, Magath and Ranieri had both won league titles in England and Germany before joining us, but both disappointed.

Maybe Khan sees something of Silva in Arbeloa. No trophies yet but wanting to get back into management with a point to prove.
"Hunger".. "Point to prove". Isn't this the trademark of the Khans? I mean, they never seem to sign a Barry Hayles or Geoff Horsfield type person etc (in the ascendency with less of a "point to prove"). Which makes the Kieran McKenna rumours the most surprising thing of this whole saga. The only thing he had to prove was that he could cut it in the Premier league


Rambler

From the bbc. I feel cautiously optimistic based on this

What can we learn from Arbeloa's time at Madrid?
By
Guillem Balague
BBC Sport Columnist

By the time Arbeloa was promoted from Real Madrid Castilla - sitting fourth in their Primera RFEF group at the time - he had created a football identity of teams with personality and wanting to dominate.
Yet at the first team, he says he couldn't simply be himself.
As he put it: "I had to be the manager I had to be."
So his time as first-team manager at Real Madrid may be no real reference for Fulham.
At Castilla, his side was built around what he calls offensive joy - possession and pressing without the ball were the two pillars.
Arbeloa was always willing to go more direct when a match demanded it.
On paper it was a 4-3-3; in practice, one midfielder pushed on almost as a number 10, shifting the shape into a 4-2-3-1 with a clear reference point up front, and wide areas mattered enormously.
Something was non-negotiable - intensity. Arbeloa's defensive model is built on relentless pressing - this was not a team that wanted to sit back and defend its own box, whatever else changes around it.
Much of that thinking has roots in the dressing rooms he played in.
At Liverpool, Rafa Benitez left him with the example of a coach obsessed with improving individual players, constantly talking to them, constantly correcting.
Back at Real Madrid from 2009, Manuel Pellegrini showed him a coach who loved pace in the game, with the wings left free to exploit it.
From Mourinho, who took charge at the Bernabeu during his playing days there, Arbeloa points to the way he led and demanded maximum effort every day, a meticulously prepared coach whose training was built entirely around his model of play.
Carlo Ancelotti and Vicente del Bosque, the latter from his time with Spain, taught him something different again - that tactics alone aren't enough.
As Arbeloa sees it, a coach who can't manage the group is "doomed to fail" - however sharp his ideas on the pitch.