Tomas Sivok

[AlFayedsChequebook]

Hughes played every match during the last few months and the defence was back to it's solid usual self, while Senderos was benched again. So yes, I tend to think it's Hughes.

Selling Senderos would of course go against everything that has happened so far this off season, which would be odd.

[twang]

According to Marca Fulham have beaten Sevilla to the signing of Sivok. Apparently we have offered the free agent €1,5m annually (almost £25k p/w), something that cash-strapped Sevilla aren't prepared to match.

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one of our CBs off then.

I've had a feeling for quite a while that Senderos will be let go if a decent offer comes in. He failed to really establish himself in the starting eleven even though he got a head start on Hughes by Jol.

But as I said it's strictly a gut feeling, and based the fact that it makes sense financially since we got him on a free and his contract expire next year.

How does it make financial sense? Hughes is also out of contract next year and significantly older.

As said above: Signed as free transfer, sold two years later for £xm. Good deal all around

Hughes on the other hand has very little resale value and, at least IMHO, would make the better backup (solid as a rock, old and experienced, won't kick up a fuss if he's not in the side).

[Legate21]

Is this Sivok really any good then?

[ffc73]

Maybe he's a replacement for Hangeland as are not all players with only 1-year left on their contract automatically "off to pastures new"?

[Mr Fulham]

Hughes played every match during the last few months and the defence was back to it's solid usual self, while Senderos was benched again. So yes, I tend to think it's Hughes.

Selling Senderos would of course go against everything that has happened so far this off season

Really?


Why....

[AlFayedsChequebook]

Hughes played every match during the last few months and the defence was back to it's solid usual self, while Senderos was benched again. So yes, I tend to think it's Hughes.

Selling Senderos would of course go against everything that has happened so far this off season

Really?


Why....

Because we would be selling a young (ish) player.

[Mr Fulham]

Ah.

[MasterHaynes]

It also depends on how Jol rates Dan Burn and Josh Passley and when/if he thinks they maybe ready to step up. To quote Jol if your good enough your old enough.

[Lighthouse]

It is claimed that he has already left his club and signed a contract with his new one. So we may well know sooner rather than later.

[twang]

Is this Sivok really any good then?

I hadn't really heard of him pre the Euros but IMHO he, along with quite a few of his team mates, was impressive for the Czechs. After they got destroyed by the Russians, the Czech coach dropped Sivok's central defender partner and paired him up with left back Kadlec. It was obviously a great move as it made their defence really solid, only letting in 2 goals in the 3 remaining matches.

[Reindeer]

Hughes played every match during the last few months and the defence was back to it's solid usual self, while Senderos was benched again. So yes, I tend to think it's Hughes.

That's rubbish.  Our problem was our weak away form.  Defensively we've been solid at home with whoever played at the back.

This revisionist BS gets on my nerves.  So you don't like Senderos?  He didn't cost us one match last year and well you know this.  

Hughes is a year older next season and Phil will be depended on to play more games.  

[Mr Fulham]

This revisionist BS gets on my nerves.  So you don't like Senderos?  

I just think Hughes is the better defender. That's pretty much everything, y'know?

[Reindeer]

This revisionist BS gets on my nerves.  So you don't like Senderos? 

I just think Hughes is the better defender. That's pretty much everything, y'know?

That's your opinion.  However you quote previously as fact that we became a better side when Hughes came back.  This is not fact, we achieved  similar results at home and got beat away. 

I never hear Kelly getting a hard time and for me, he is the worst 1st team defender we've got. Still if you can through imaginary mud at Senderos, then feel free.

[rhyspabsolom]

To quote Jol if your good enough your old enough.

Although he probably said it with better grammar.

[west kowloon white]

And talking of Sendros??SIVOK?? and who is off- yes they probably are-perhaps a new thread on Sendros' talent/religious beliefs.
sivok????????????????

[NorthernWhite]

Reports from Spain are saying that Sivok signed a pre-contract with an unnamed French club before the Euro's so this deal is far from being close if true. The report also says he'd still be keen on Sevilla but his agent has close ties with Fulham and we're offering more money.

[twang]

Reports from France are saying that Sivok signed a pre-contract with an unnamed French club before the Euro's so this deal is far from being close if true. The report also says he'd still be keen on Sevilla but his agent has close ties with Fulham and we're offering more money.

But why would Sivok's agent negotiate with other clubs if his client has already signed a contract somewhere else? That doesn't really make much sense.

[NorthernWhite]

Reports from France are saying that Sivok signed a pre-contract with an unnamed French club before the Euro's so this deal is far from being close if true. The report also says he'd still be keen on Sevilla but his agent has close ties with Fulham and we're offering more money.

But why would Sivok's agent negotiate with other clubs if his client has already signed a contract somewhere else? That doesn't really make much sense.

Not sure but not beyond the realms that he thought he'd chance his arm to get a higher salary, signing on fee and cut for himself after he had a good Euro's.

[Mr Fulham]

It's ridiculous that an EURO participant signs a pre-contract agreement with a club ahead of the EUROs...

[NorthernWhite]

It's ridiculous that an EURO participant signs a pre-contract agreement with a club ahead of the EUROs...

If true, I agree, it would be. He may have signed back in Jan though and was unsure whether he would be playing in the tournament.