Questions for Pearce about Beckham. NFR

[fulhamben]

Why should Richards be picked when he turns down being on standby for England?

Why should Richards be picked when he turns down being on standby for England?

hmm maybe because the team gb manager actually bothered to call him unlike the england manager who got someone who wasnt even affililated with england national team to tell him he hadnt made the final 23. poor poor management from roy if you ask me

[JBH]

I also agree with the comment about his last 10-15 England caps, 10 minute cameos to try and get him up to 100 and "legend" status. Well, one goal against Greece in a qualifier and a poor record in Tournements suggests his not good enough to clean Charlton, Moore, Hurst et al's boots!

He may not deserve to play in the Olympics but this paragraph is tosh. He did so much more than one goal against Greece, it's a sad day when a player like David Beckham gets stick for all he did for England. At least when he was captain he wore it with pride and led by example on and off the pitch.

Led by example so you are saying that getting sent off for a stupid reaction in an important World Cup match setting a good example.

Brand Bechham is about him and him alone without his profile he is nothing, just an averare footballer not fit to lace the boots of real players like Johnny Hayes and George Cohen.  065.gif

[King_Crud]

There are alot of tickets for the football unsold, and the view is they will probably remain so because  Beckham is not involved, he would have been a bit of a draw .................even I would not mind seeing Becks play one last time. 
He was very involved in the bid and the amateur status thing is no longer a  real consideration.

Is anyone going to the football or  have tickets  for any of the events ???

Me, Mrs S and Junior are at Wembley on the 29th for a mens qualifier double-header. Think it's Senegal v Uruguay followd by GB v United Arab Emirates.

yeah I got 6 tickets for the cheap seats there as well. Should be a laugh, couldn't really care about the results, I just want to see entertaining football

[Luke]

I also agree with the comment about his last 10-15 England caps, 10 minute cameos to try and get him up to 100 and "legend" status. Well, one goal against Greece in a qualifier and a poor record in Tournements suggests his not good enough to clean Charlton, Moore, Hurst et al's boots!

He may not deserve to play in the Olympics but this paragraph is tosh. He did so much more than one goal against Greece, it's a sad day when a player like David Beckham gets stick for all he did for England. At least when he was captain he wore it with pride and led by example on and off the pitch.

Led by example so you are saying that getting sent off for a stupid reaction in an important World Cup match setting a good example.

Brand Bechham is about him and him alone without his profile he is nothing, just an averare footballer not fit to lace the boots of real players like Johnny Hayes and George Cohen.  065.gif

I said at least when he was captain, was he captain in the 1998 World Cup? No. The thing about Beckham was that he was a professional, no racial charges, a secure marriage and family, model professional off the pitch. He was not an average footballer; I do not believe for one second that people on this board would have rejected Beckham as a 20-30 year old footballer if that would hypothetically happened, why? Because he was a class player.

[Mr Fulham]

Beckham was one of the main faces who advertised the Olympics and tried hard to get them to GB. I think it's ridiculous that he was not been included, especially as he was part of the whole campaign and even included in the privisional squad.

Very odd decision by Pearce.

[HatterDon]

Jurgen "The Idiot" Klinsmann told our young Olympians that they had cost THEMSELVES a series of huge pay packets by not making London 2012, and he was -- for once -- spot on. These tourneys mean nothing to the home FAs or fans, but they are great showcases for young talent. We have several players who might have been targets of European clubs in January had they the opportunity to show what they could do this summer. That is the single benefit I can think of concerning olympic team sports competitions.

Having said all that, I am bored to death with the Olympics and basically hold my breath until they douse the fire. I hate the jingoism, the medal tables, the professionals, the jump-cutting from event to event, the concept -- here in the USA -- that the worst form of losing is an Olympic silver medal, and the national bloody anthems.

About soccer as an olympic sport, I think it went professional because the Olympics wanted it that way. People weren't taking the event seriously because teams were made up of players not good enough to land that professional contract by the age of 14. The very fact that Major League Baseball refused to suspend their season every four years was enough to get baseball eliminated as an Olympic sport.

The Olympics have apparently accepted that most of their winter sports -- skiing, skating -- view the event as just another stop on the winter tour, and one that's vastly less prestigious than the World Championships, but they don't want the same to be true of the summer ones.

I will care about the Olympics when and if:

a. it is predominately track and field, skiing and skating
b. the only "team" event is the relays
c. the athletes participate as individuals
d. the athletes are amateurs
e. the summer olympics are held every four years in Greece
f. the winter olympics are held every four years in Norway.

Until then, they're just a distraction to the football season.

[Mr Fulham]

Olympic football seems pointless to me.

It's not the World Championship and teams are hybrid almost exhibition teams. Mostly kids with a few deserving elder statesmen.

On that basis Beckham should have been picked as an icon.

No international football association gives the Olympics any priority. IMO the games should be limited to sports like athletics and swimming where it IS regarded as the supreme occasion and minority sports that never get any other exposure.

Not the likes of football and tennis.

This isn't strictly true - other countries DO give it importance. FIFA see it as a u21 world cup style competition and that is why they dont have a separate u21 WC.

It is not taken seriously by the British, but the Spanish, Brazilians, Italians, Germans and the Argies all use it to train players to get used to international tournaments.

For this reason, I can completely understand why Beckham has not been included. I dont think it is an unfair call either - he chose to go for the money and move to the MLS, so he can't complain when he is overlooked for developing players or those getting regular game time in the Prem (Giggs).

The Germans are not interested in Olympic Football.  Definitely not.

[ToodlesMcToot]

The point that it is an under 21 tournament, I admit, does give it some credibility, As far as over age players going, surely, based on merit and on the field performances DANNY MURPHY should have been the first pick.

I have watched Beckham in MLS games and he just strolls around on the right wing and takes free kicks and corner kicks. Hardly inspiring.

Although, he got involved this week-end, tried to start a fight and several team mates were holding him back. Then he came back for more!!! :58: All at the end of a 4-3 loss.

Becks also kicked not one but two balls at an injured player down on the pitch, actually hitting him with the second.

Despite the obvious leadership qualities Becks brings, how could Pearce explain bringing a freekick specialist who can't hit a downed man lying still from twenty yards at better than a 50% rate? Not good enough.

[jarv]

Slight change of direction....shouldn't it be team England and Wales. :011: Any Irish or Scots? OK, I know they didn't really want to join in. Jordan Rhodes at least so we can see if he really is any good.

[Mitch]

In terms of who has been called up I can see easily why Beckham wasn't included. Far better midfielders for a 4-4-2 or a 4-3-3 than him.

[beijing ben]

I also agree with the comment about his last 10-15 England caps, 10 minute cameos to try and get him up to 100 and "legend" status. Well, one goal against Greece in a qualifier and a poor record in Tournements suggests his not good enough to clean Charlton, Moore, Hurst et al's boots!

He may not deserve to play in the Olympics but this paragraph is tosh. He did so much more than one goal against Greece, it's a sad day when a player like David Beckham gets stick for all he did for England. At least when he was captain he wore it with pride and led by example on and off the pitch.

Led by example so you are saying that getting sent off for a stupid reaction in an important World Cup match setting a good example.

Brand Bechham is about him and him alone without his profile he is nothing, just an averare footballer not fit to lace the boots of real players like Johnny Hayes and George Cohen.  065.gif

I said at least when he was captain, was he captain in the 1998 World Cup? No. The thing about Beckham was that he was a professional, no racial charges, a secure marriage and family, model professional off the pitch. He was not an average footballer; I do not believe for one second that people on this board would have rejected Beckham as a 20-30 year old footballer if that would hypothetically happened, why? Because he was a class player.

Secure marriage? I think you might Loos the argument there!..

[Lighthouse]

I think this leaves the door open for the Spice Girls to reform. Becks can stay home with the Nanny and the kids.