Fitness or just bad luck & our time for the drop???

[Fulham76]

The last minute of the home game & last 4 of the away games vs West Brom this season have cost us 4 points. Those 5 minutes could be the difference between us staying up or going down. Add to that the last minute Liverpool goal which cost us another point, plus the other late ones this season.
Is it just our time for the drop or can we hold on to these points with better fitness or concentration?

[epsomraver]

Last minute Liverpool goal cost us 3 unfortunately

[Fulham76]

Last minute Liverpool goal cost us 3 unfortunately

3??? Felt like it but just the 1

[Burt]

Generally these things should even themselves out during the course of the season e.g. Bent at Old Trafford.

However in our position we can't afford not to close out games from either a position of getting a point against a top 4 club (Liverpool) or 3 against a fellow relegation scrapper (WBA).

[JackyFulham90]

We can still stay up but we need a win badly, we have to beat Cardiff

[Fernhurst]

The last minute of the home game & last 4 of the away games vs West Brom this season have cost us 4 points. Those 5 minutes could be the difference between us staying up or going down. Add to that the last minute Liverpool goal which cost us another point, plus the other late ones this season.
Is it just our time for the drop or can we hold on to these points with better fitness or concentration?

Something I've been mulling over for while... Is it just our turn for the drop?

It's just too much to think we can crack the top 6 so we have bobbed about between 8th and 17th for a dozen seasons.
Blackburn and Bolton (who came up with us in 2001) disappeared a while ago.

We've had our best ever season under Roy and now the wheel has turned and we are experiencing our worst.
With our natural support (minus the tourists and neutrals ??) around 13,000 on a good day maybe we should all swallow hard an prepare ourselves.

A horrible combination of circumstances have conspired ( especially outstandingly poor player and management selection) to put us in pole position for the dreaded.

We taken chances and danced all over the trapdoor before and it is impossible to to make 13th place your own continuously.

Feeling very black after Norwich's result today. 

Beat the Blue Poo next week and rainbows will appear in the sky again.

Whatever happens I will be there against Chelski and in my usual seat v Doncaster next season.

[epsomraver]

Last minute Liverpool goal cost us 3 unfortunately

3??? Felt like it but just the 1

How come? we were 2-2 and on a point and Gerrard scored the penalty so we dropped 3 points

[Julius Geezer]

I hate to say it but I have a feeling we will be looking back on these dropped points at the end of the season saying 'if only we had held on'.

The West Brom game was ours for the taking and we faultered against a poor side.

Still, there's points to be won, there's a new energy around the club - let's crack on and turn this around!

[Admin]

Fitness isn't an excuse, you make your own luck in life, it's our time for the drop, and I base it on 3 years of refusing to invest into the squad and expecting 33-34 year old players to compete at the highest level.  

[Fulham76]

Last minute Liverpool goal cost us 3 unfortunately

3??? Felt like it but just the 1

How come? we were 2-2 and on a point and Gerrard scored the penalty so we dropped 3 points

If it finished 2-2 we get a point but that last minute penalty of theirs took our point away & gave us none = 1 point dropped/lost.

[Buffalo76]

Last minute Liverpool goal cost us 3 unfortunately

3??? Felt like it but just the 1

How come? we were 2-2 and on a point and Gerrard scored the penalty so we dropped 3 points

Maths not your strong point at school?

[St Eve]

We also dropped a point to Newcastle with 4 minutes to go and a point to Cardiff in injury time

[St Eve]

Last minute Liverpool goal cost us 3 unfortunately

3??? Felt like it but just the 1

How come? we were 2-2 and on a point and Gerrard scored the penalty so we dropped 3 points

Maths not your strong point at school?

You think!

[Fulham76]

We also dropped a point to Newcastle with 4 minutes to go and a point to Cardiff in injury time

Yep, those handful of games is the difference between us sitting bottom or about 13th

[nose]

all through the season we have thrown points away, under jol, under rene, yesterday.
we have enough talented players to be doing much better BUT we do not have a proper forward line.
IMO, no matter what other shortcomings we have the inability to send the ball forward and have a player to get on the end of it and hold it up has been a disaster.... when bobby Z left we did not replace him with anyone. berba was a great player, no question one of the most gifted I have seem but not what we needed.

You need a player up top that can play with his back to goal and hold up the [lay and bobby was a master at that game, we just do nit have such a player and other than a few world class teams every team needs a player of that type. we lose possesion far to easilly going forward and bent doesn't do that, hugo can't and mitroglu is an unknown commodity. I think that is one of the issues why we concede so may late goals, the ball is whacked up the field, but comes straight back, what we need is a man that can get it and hold it and bring the midfield into play, frustrate the opposition and waste some time, and even pinch the odd sucker punch goal.

Jol was neglectful of this because of berba, rene never got such a player and now felix has to figure out a way to deal with it and i don't think it is going to be that easy.

yesterday brought into focus the problem of not having such a  player