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See yer non plan b Kit!

Started by BestOfBrede, November 21, 2014, 09:43:11 PM

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BestOfBrede

I warned you all - Kits a great and luvverlyFulham man, but unfortunately nowhere near experienced enough for a team expecting promotions.

Goodnight

Ordar

I have been saying this since his first game, but have been accused by most (apart from my uncle) of being "negative"

GrahamG

Most people wanted Kit and we've got him. A nice guy who supposedly knows the players. Sadly, he will not be successful. We look a complete mess.


Twig

Quote from: BestOfBrede on November 21, 2014, 09:43:11 PM
I warned you all - Kits a great and luvverlyFulham man, but unfortunately nowhere near experienced enough for a team expecting promotions.

Goodnight

Sorry but your post makes no sense. Typos and also promotions plural????

Artful Dodger

1 defeat in 7 and the doommongers are out in force!!
Faber est suae quisque fortunae

Twig

Oh dear the knives are already out.


andyk

Kit will do us proud this year. We will finish respectable mid table. To be honest any decent coach would get this squad to mid or upper half position. But does Kit have the quality, experience or the confidence to build a squad that can not only gain promotion but stay in the Prem? I don't think so. Khan will give him the season and then it will be goodbye, barring a miracle.

GrahamG

He got the job because of fan pressure given impetus by the dithering of the owner. We, the fans, should have been much more demanding but we've got what the majority asked for - a nice 'Fulham guy' who is out of his depth.

nose

this is a crazy thread.
1. Experience means nothing, jo;l and magath had bags of experience as did branfoot and they were miles worse than any other managers we have ever had!
2. kit has worked wonder and is doing an amazing job... we did really well to keep in the game in the first half, took our chance well in the second, pretty much were cruising to a win but the equaliser was unfortunate and out of the blue... the winner a cruel deflection.
3. keep calm, we are bound to lose games because the quality of our players is not good enough and that can be corrected
4. we will not always play well and brentford pinned us back meaning we had to play the long ball and it was working

5. where kit is wrong IMO is the obseesion with ruiz, yet again he was simply nowhere to be seen, out of his depth and not able to put in the effort in this type of game, we were playing with 10 players...
I also thought woodrow was a better choice than eisfeld, we needed somebody to hold up the ball as it went forward because whilst hugo is popping them in, he has an appauling lack of first touch
6. williams is struggling for physicality and is only half a player... he will be great, no doubt, but in a year or two, not now...   so in the end we were effectively 9.5 players

Kit has to drop ruiz, the man is a liability
i would give david a chance and i think it is time williams was rested for his own good

but i thought we showed character tonight and were, in the end, rather unlucky!
Stop moaning about the manager, he is in fact brilliant.


SouthWest6

Quote from: andyk on November 21, 2014, 09:56:59 PM
Kit will do us proud this year. We will finish respectable mid table. To be honest any decent coach would get this squad to mid or upper half position. But does Kit have the quality, experience or the confidence to build a squad that can not only gain promotion but stay in the Prem? I don't think so. Khan will give him the season and then it will be goodbye, barring a miracle.

No he hasn't, that I'm pretty sure of. Another Paul Bracewell type appointment done on the cheap to bring stability, will prob be moved on next season if we achieve a mid-table finish.

andyk

Quote from: nose on November 21, 2014, 10:17:25 PM
this is a crazy thread.
1. Experience means nothing, jo;l and magath had bags of experience as did branfoot and they were miles worse than any other managers we have ever had!
2. kit has worked wonder and is doing an amazing job... we did really well to keep in the game in the first half, took our chance well in the second, pretty much were cruising to a win but the equaliser was unfortunate and out of the blue... the winner a cruel deflection.
3. keep calm, we are bound to lose games because the quality of our players is not good enough and that can be corrected
4. we will not always play well and brentford pinned us back meaning we had to play the long ball and it was working

5. where kit is wrong IMO is the obseesion with ruiz, yet again he was simply nowhere to be seen, out of his depth and not able to put in the effort in this type of game, we were playing with 10 players...
I also thought woodrow was a better choice than eisfeld, we needed somebody to hold up the ball as it went forward because whilst hugo is popping them in, he has an appauling lack of first touch
6. williams is struggling for physicality and is only half a player... he will be great, no doubt, but in a year or two, not now...   so in the end we were effectively 9.5 players

Kit has to drop ruiz, the man is a liability
i would give david a chance and i think it is time williams was rested for his own good

but i thought we showed character tonight and were, in the end, rather unlucky!
Stop moaning about the manager, he is in fact brilliant.

I thought we were winning when Ruiz went off, so how, exactly, was he to blame. Ruiz is a world class footballer, he would walk into any of the top championship teams and a good few of the premiership ones. 

Chutney

I stopped coming on this board because it became full of people wanting to criticise, moan and be negative at every possible chance. We won't win every game with this squad. The team was torn apart in the summer by a mad man and we are re-building, its not kit's team. Can we concentrate on the fact we have only lost one in seven? or is that too positive for you all? I should of stayed away, its depressing on here.
C O Y W


ChesterTheTabby

You are all a bunch of moaners who seem to sincerely wait by your keyboard for bad news and then groan and throw a fit. We lost to a better team, we were away from home, we are dealing with a team that has been torn apart horrendous decisions by previous managers and and backroom staff (all the way to the top). We all know it's been and will continue to be a rough season..just for the love of God put the knives down and give it all a rest. Yes we all have opininions and I respect what everyone has to say..but this forum is becoming so utterly toxic it's hard to read at times.

On to Brighton!
Someone once asked me, "Why Fulham?".
My response, "Well, lad, you just haven't seen the light yet"

ChesterTheTabby

Quote from: Chutney on November 21, 2014, 10:22:40 PM
I stopped coming on this board because it became full of people wanting to criticise, moan and be negative at every possible chance. We won't win every game with this squad. The team was torn apart in the summer by a mad man and we are re-building, its not kit's team. Can we concentrate on the fact we have only lost one in seven? or is that too positive for you all? I should of stayed away, its depressing on here.

Didn't realize another had posted this before me, but I agree.
Someone once asked me, "Why Fulham?".
My response, "Well, lad, you just haven't seen the light yet"

Berserker

We didn't loose too badly tonight. I'm really looking forward to my trip to Brighton.
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'Only in the darkness can you see the stars'

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HV71

I really do want us to stick with Kit and get behind him .  He has many positive attributes - not least of which is bringing on players and obviously creating a good team spirit .Being inexperienced and  naive does not make him the wrong man for the job. What will surely cause his downfall is if he doesn't learn from his mistakes and see what so many of people on this forum see and that is the way we are overrun in the middle of the park. We are not strong enough in the middle for this division. Players often hit long balls from the back when they are being overrun and under constant pressure.
The defence probably isn't good enough but without a strong midfield they will never stand a chance over 90 mins.
We need  either to get someone in on loan, use a different formation,and or different players to suit the game ( especially away games like tonight - when Ruiz was far too lightweight and could never cope with the cut and thrust of such a derby ). Then  in January we have to strengthen . We cannot just wait for our undoubted young talent to mature sufficiently to cope with the rigours of this league.
Kit may not fancy certain players, he may want to remain loyal to his youth team ,but for his own sake he does need to develop a plan B and C for that matter
We were not unlucky tonight - we were not robbed by the ref . Ross was spot on - they were the better side .
Please please Kit - show us you can change it when it needs it , either for certain types of games and for certain  during games when our backs are so often against the wall.
COYW

Baszab

#16
There is no plan B because we haven't got any B players - the squad has been decimated by the previous idiot.

We needed to shore up the midfield at 1-1 - we don't actually have a player capable of doing that - Eisfeld/ David ? useless at defensive duties

Nose - you are right Williams doesn't contribute enough and we have too weak a midfield - didn't go but assume LVC did a fair amount of running -
thought Ruiz did OK though  -

Zverotic = useless - is that KS' fault ?? who should we bring on - we haven't got a right back a the moment -- or is it KS' fault that he doesn't have a Shaw or Clyne in the squad

I thought we were unlucky to lose in the end - not fortunate to be one up at all

ron

I blame the spectre of a play-off place jaundicing quite a few on here's view of this season. If you think that our right is to finish in the top six, then every defeat is going to seem like a knife in the heart. Listen to the doomsayers!

Tonight we went down 2-1 to a top team in the division. That is all. We were in the lead, OK, that was our misfortune that we gave it away from there.

Forget the playoffs. Enjoy the high points of the season, there will surely be quite a few, particularly in the context of our first seven games.........

I'll stop there...It's beginning to sound too much like 'Desiderata'......!       049:gif


Mince n Tatties

Quote from: ron on November 21, 2014, 10:46:11 PM
I blame the spectre of a play-off place jaundicing quite a few on here's view of this season. If you think that our right is to finish in the top six, then every defeat is going to seem like a knife in the heart. Listen to the doomsayers!

Tonight we went down 2-1 to a top team in the division. That is all. We were in the lead, OK, that was our misfortune that we gave it away from there.

Forget the playoffs. Enjoy the high points of the season, there will surely be quite a few, particularly in the context of our first seven games.........

I'll stop there...It's beginning to sound too much like 'Desiderata'......!       049:gif

Love your optimism Ron...

nose

Quote from: Baszab on November 21, 2014, 10:37:18 PM
There is no plan B because we haven't got any B players - the squad has been decimated by the previous idiot.

We needed to shore up the midfield at 1-1 - we don't actually have a player capable of doing that - Eisfeld/ David ? useless at defensive duties

Nose - you are right Williams doesn't contribute enough and we have too weak a midfield - didn't go but assume LVC did a fair amount of running -
thought Ruiz did OK though  -

Zverotic = useless - is that KS' fault ?? who should we bring on - we haven't got a right back a the moment -- or is it KS' fault that he doesn't have a Shaw or Clyne in the squad

I thought we were unlucky to lose in the end - not fortunate to be one up at all

we will have to disagree re ruiz, he was anonymous and unable to keep up and wasteful in possesion... i am not sure what you see in him. but i thought we were unlucky in the end even though we were pushed back for far too long... we need a few bigger and better players