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Deuce sees red

Started by Black, White and Fred, June 17, 2015, 01:34:01 PM

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Black, White and Fred

June 17, 2015, 01:34:01 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/33161464

Clint Dempsey rips up referee's notebook and sees red
Clint Dempsey ripped up a referee's notebook and was sent off as Seattle Sounders finished a cup match against Portland Timbers with seven men.

The United States captain reacted angrily to a red card  for team-mate Michael Azira during a US Open Cup tie.

Referee Daniel Radford sent off the 32-year-old forward as well as Azira, having earlier dismissed Brad Evans.

Dempsey flicked the notebook out of Radford's hand, picked it up off the pitch and then tore it into pieces.

Striker Obafemi Martins also went off injured with all three substitutions used as Seattle lost the game 3-1.

Dempsey, who left Tottenham and returned to Major League Soccer with Seattle in August 2013, was dismissed in extra time at the Starfire Stadium.

After the red card Dempsey, capped 112 caps by the US, had to be restrained by team-mates and sarcastically applauded in the face of an assistant referee as he made his way off the pitch.

'A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows that faith does not prove anything.'

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ToodlesMcToot

#1
June 17, 2015, 02:03:35 PM
Now that's funny.
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." — The Dude

McBride78

#2
June 17, 2015, 02:12:25 PM
If you are going to get carded, i suppose do it in style.

ToodlesMcToot

#4
June 17, 2015, 05:26:10 PM
From what I've been reading, it appears as if this will be deamed "referee assault" (damaging reg's personal property). That carries with it a minimum 3 month ban from USSF.

That, to me, sounds like he'll be banned from all USSF activities which would include the Gold Cup.

Guessing MB90 will be the US captain for a while longer.
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." — The Dude

mccscratch

#5
June 17, 2015, 06:00:03 PM
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on June 17, 2015, 05:26:10 PM
From what I've been reading, it appears as if this will be deamed "referee assault" (damaging reg's personal property). That carries with it a minimum 3 month ban from USSF.

That, to me, sounds like he'll be banned from all USSF activities which would include the Gold Cup.

Guessing MB90 will be the US captain for a while longer.

Having watched the comical game last night because my child refused to go to sleep... The USSF may review and realize that it was probably the worst referee job in the world and may grant him some leniency... it was as I said... comical.
Just score 3+ goals a game and we will gain promotion...I promise

ToodlesMcToot

#6
June 17, 2015, 06:41:38 PM
Quote from: mccscratch on June 17, 2015, 06:00:03 PM
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on June 17, 2015, 05:26:10 PM
From what I've been reading, it appears as if this will be deamed "referee assault" (damaging reg's personal property). That carries with it a minimum 3 month ban from USSF.

That, to me, sounds like he'll be banned from all USSF activities which would include the Gold Cup.

Guessing MB90 will be the US captain for a while longer.

Having watched the comical game last night because my child refused to go to sleep... The USSF may review and realize that it was probably the worst referee job in the world and may grant him some leniency... it was as I said... comical.

I've no reason to doubt it but, once one enters a decider like "was the refereeing comical or not" into the "should a player be allowed to assault (by the letter of the law) a referee" discussion, then USSF has already begun losing control. I predict that not only will Dempsey get the three months ban, he'll get made an example of because of his status within the game. He didn't just step over the line, he mocked it and then tried to go back for more. I foresee a very long vacation for Deuce, possibly the remainder of the season. I certainly wouldn't be surprised to see that.
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." — The Dude

nose

#7
June 17, 2015, 07:02:12 PM
i notice on bbc dempsey is the ex spurs player no mention of fulham, if it had have been the other way round... i.e. tunnycliffe the ex man utd man.... just  saying

nose

#8
June 17, 2015, 07:02:28 PM
by the way what dempsey did was really daft.

ToodlesMcToot

#9
June 17, 2015, 08:44:22 PM
Quote from: nose on June 17, 2015, 07:02:28 PM
by the way what dempsey did was really daft.

yes it was. completely uncalled for. if the ref was that bad, take any one of the many opportunities to give an interview and call out the ref and USSF. take your fine and be done with it.

instead, he's made Joey Barton look composed and hurt both his club team and his national team in one go.
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." — The Dude

SouthIslandWhite

#10
June 17, 2015, 09:00:57 PM
Well done Clint!  Ada boy!

Not!
There is only one Fulham Football Club.

VamosFFC

#11
June 17, 2015, 10:03:57 PM
Here is the video of the incident for anyone who wants to see it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgSeuptey24

aaronmcguigan

#12
June 18, 2015, 08:08:43 AM
If he wins the league and Is top scorer, then he can be labelled ex-Fulham.

For his stupid actions, I'm glad they just labelled him ex-Tottenham

Logicalman

#13
June 18, 2015, 02:27:40 PM

Absolutely disgusting behaviour by a player that should be able to demand respect due to both his status and skill.

Hopefully he will get the book thrown at him, there is NO place is professional sports for any behaviour such as this, no matter how great a player you might be.

Totally agree aaronmcguigan, I am happy the club was not mentioned in this piece.
Logical is just in the name - don't expect it has anything to do with my thought process, because I AM the man who sold the world.

Fulham 442

#15
June 20, 2015, 05:11:39 AM
Hope he doesn't come back to us on loan if he does get a three month ban!  He was woeful on his return when we were struggling in the Prem.  Would rather remember the good old days with Dempsey and THAT goal against Juventus!!

jms

#16
June 20, 2015, 05:04:58 PM
Quote from: Logicalman on June 18, 2015, 02:27:40 PM

Absolutely disgusting behaviour by a player that should be able to demand respect due to both his status and skill.

Hopefully he will get the book thrown at him, there is NO place is professional sports for any behaviour such as this, no matter how great a player you might be.

Totally agree aaronmcguigan, I am happy the club was not mentioned in this piece.


:plus one:........and also we're not talking about a 'great' player here. CD scored a few important goals for us, but he was never a Fulham 'Great' as Haynes; McBride; Leggat and  Saha were.....just to name 4.

ToodlesMcToot

#17
June 20, 2015, 05:34:09 PM
Quote from: jms on June 20, 2015, 05:04:58 PM
Quote from: Logicalman on June 18, 2015, 02:27:40 PM

Absolutely disgusting behaviour by a player that should be able to demand respect due to both his status and skill.

Hopefully he will get the book thrown at him, there is NO place is professional sports for any behaviour such as this, no matter how great a player you might be.

Totally agree aaronmcguigan, I am happy the club was not mentioned in this piece.


:plus one:........and also we're not talking about a 'great' player here. CD scored a few important goals for us, but he was never a Fulham 'Great' as Haynes; McBride; Leggat and  Saha were.....just to name 4.

Please. It's your opinion of course. It's also nonsense.
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." — The Dude

ToodlesMcToot

#18
June 20, 2015, 11:21:10 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on June 20, 2015, 08:44:45 PM
On the radio they were talking about up grading the offence to assault which will make quite a difference to the Length of the suspension.

The US Soccer Federations rules clearly state that assaulting the ref includes the destruction of the ref's personal property and equipment. Dempsey certainly did that. The MINIMUM punishment for that under USSF rules is a 3 month ban which I believe would have been appropriate.

Since the US Open Cup is both a pro and amateur competition, USSF turned over the judgement and punishment to MLS (a cop-out IMO) and MLS clearly protected the on field product over the referees. Consequently, the next time the league has anything to say about respect toward the refs, it'll have no moral high ground upon which to stand, again IMO. I can foresee a future situation where the refs take it upon themselves to ensure they are better respected by their league and its players. Someone needs to.

I'm a fan of Clint's. I've always liked his style. I think that, despite the way that he exited Fulham, he still should be held in high regard as a Fulham player. I know that isn't a popular opinion but, that isn't a bother. Having said that, I think MLS should have thrown the book at him and put it's foot down regarding respect toward the refs. A missed opportunity that would not have hurt much short term and done a world of good in the long run.
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man." — The Dude

Forever Fulham

#19
June 21, 2015, 03:02:18 AM
Just askin': Exactly how bad was the refereeing in that game?  Part of me thinks he got off lightly because he's Clint Dempsey, a major face of the MLS league, and a key player in the upcoming cup.  Another part of me wonders if the Powers that Be saw a video of the game and were perhaps affected by the horrible refereeing (if that was the case). 
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