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The Official Next Manager Discussion Thread

Started by Rhys Lightning 63, November 07, 2015, 04:14:56 PM

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Hoppus

Quote from: clarkey on December 22, 2015, 08:58:53 AM
In what way is Slavisa Jokanovic a "good fit" ?

attacking football with flair-no
in the Fulham style-no
experience at the highest level-no
used to working with English teams-no
good with the press-no
good personality-no
strong links with major players and clubs-no
likely to impress star players and attract new signings-no
rebuilt a team-no
good sporting player with clean reputation-no
fresh exciting coaching talent-no

I think the good fit evidence is based on less than a season at Watford when he inherited the squad after a quick succession of managers then walked out over a pay demand.

This looks like a good plan and worth wasting a season on.

:-D

He got Watford promoted, that`s more important then him beeing good talking to the press :D

Jem

Just curious but what is the Fulham Style? Is it like the West Ham Style?
"When you're in jail, a good friend will be trying to bail you out. A best friend will be in the cell next to you saying, 'Damn, that was fun'."
― Groucho Marx

Wearethewhites

Quote from: clarkey on December 22, 2015, 08:58:53 AM
In what way is Slavisa Jokanovic a "good fit" ?

attacking football with flair-no
in the Fulham style-no
experience at the highest level-no
used to working with English teams-no
good with the press-no
good personality-no
strong links with major players and clubs-no
likely to impress star players and attract new signings-no
rebuilt a team-no
good sporting player with clean reputation-no
fresh exciting coaching talent-no

I think the good fit evidence is based on less than a season at Watford when he inherited the squad after a quick succession of managers then walked out over a pay demand.

This looks like a good plan and worth wasting a season on.

God knows where you got all this from, but the guy is the real deal. He'll either get us promoted, or will leave us in a much better state than we are now.


Ordar

"Fulham Style"? Playing awful football without the ability to defend, especially from set plays for the past 5 years?

I'm hoping he doesn't want to play the Fulham Style if that's the case

PokerMatt

Watford scored 91 goals last season (second highest). They were also pretty tough to break down (third lowest GC).

If that's not the Fulham way then perhaps we should make it so, because I like the sound of it.
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Ordar

#2725
attacking football with flair- Watford were top scorers in the league
in the Fulham style- lets hope not as the current Fulham style is trash
experience at the highest level-We're not at the highest level. However he's currently managing a team who were in the CL and top of their league...
used to working with English teams- a year at Watford?
good with the press- irrelevant
good personality-irrelevant/unproven
strong links with major players and clubs-He played for Chelsea...
likely to impress star players and attract new signings- unfounded
rebuilt a team- we don't need rebuilding, just recoaching
good sporting player with clean reputation-irrelevant
fresh exciting coaching talent-He's only 47


Chesh

Quote from: Jem on December 22, 2015, 09:48:21 AM
Just curious but what is the Fulham Style? Is it like the West Ham Style?
I would ask the same question - I remember the Tigana style, and the Keegan style, and even the Hodgson style, which were all totally different by the way.

Other than than, there has been no 'Fulham style' that I would be proud of, other than a weak under-belly, and a very stand offish approach (both of which of course are not to be proud of)

That opinion goes back to the mid-70s by the way, and I can't comment on any supposed 'Fulham style' that may have been apparent in the fifties and sixties (certainly not a winning one, that's for sure).
Made in Hammersmith (1968)

Chesh

Quote from: Ordar on December 22, 2015, 10:07:44 AM
attacking football with flair- Watford were top scorers in the league
in the Fulham style- lets hope not as the current Fulham style is trash
experience at the highest level-We're not at the highest level. However he's currently managing a team who were in the CL and top of their league...
used to working with English teams- a year at Watford?
good with the press- irrelevant
good personality-irrelevant/unproven
strong links with major players and clubs-He played for Chelsea...
likely to impress star players and attract new signings- unfounded
rebuilt a team- we don't need rebuilding, just recoaching
good sporting player with clean reputation-irrelevant
fresh exciting coaching talent-He's only 47


Also, didn't he win the double twice with Partizan Belgrade?

He also won a title in Thailand I believe.

To me, it shows a winners attitude if nothing else.

He also has the demeanour of not being a soft touch, which these players badly need.
Made in Hammersmith (1968)

FulhamStu

I tell you what the Fulham Style was at Bolton.
# Boot it upfield from the back 4
# Unable to retain the ball once it got to Dembele
# Miss place paces all over the place in MF
# Unable to cut out or clear crosses
# Totally unsure of best 11
# Loads of good players, no team system

I could go on and on and on.


@jolslover

He does play good attacking football, a possession based game. All watfords fans opinions of him are very positive and when reading Watford forums many said he would 'Sort out our defence' and are happy to see him at another job. He is a great appointment and one of the best we could have realistically made. Who were you expecting??
STH H3

Neil D

Quote from: Ordar on December 22, 2015, 10:07:44 AM
attacking football with flair- Watford were top scorers in the league
in the Fulham style- lets hope not as the current Fulham style is trash
experience at the highest level-We're not at the highest level. However he's currently managing a team who were in the CL and top of their league...
used to working with English teams- a year at Watford?
good with the press- irrelevant
good personality-irrelevant/unproven
strong links with major players and clubs-He played for Chelsea...
likely to impress star players and attract new signings- unfounded
rebuilt a team- we don't need rebuilding, just recoaching
good sporting player with clean reputation-irrelevant
fresh exciting coaching talent-He's only 47

Excellent observations.  I'm with you on this one.

Neil D

The Daily Mail claims Jokanovic is on £450k at Maccabi.  That's not an exceptional salary by Championship standards.  So, compensation to the Israelis must be the issue financially for the Club. 


MJG

Not sure if style is the right word, but i do think apart from a couple of occasions we play the game in the right spirit.

I'd never want us to be dirty side like Wolves were under McCarthy, the gamesmanship of Blackburn under Sam, the thugs and directness of the worst of Stoke.
We don't suffer divers at the club, we soon make it clear to them we don't like it.

We for the most part just played the game like an average side. Tigana was exceptional football, McDonald's side was attacking and fun to watch, Roy at times was methodical. Apart from that its all been much of a muchness.

mkras99

   Raphael Gellar (@Raphael_Gellar)
12/22/15, 7:18 AM
Going on @sport5il radio in 15-20 minutes to talk about Slavisa Jokanovic to #Fulham

Tonywa


We don't suffer divers at the club, we soon make it clear to them we don't like it.

We for the most part just played the game like an average side. Tigana was exceptional football, McDonald's side was attacking and fun to watch, Roy at times was methodical. Apart from that its all been much of a muchness.

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Divers? Can't remember either Ivor or Boa Morte getting a bad time from the crowd;-)


Tonywa

Not forgetting Clint Dempsey who would go over if there was a slight gust of wind.

MJG

Quote from: Tonywa on December 22, 2015, 02:06:23 PM
Not forgetting Clint Dempsey who would go over if there was a slight gust of wind.
You have just opened a massive can of worms with that comment
I'd put the tin hat on right now.

LBNo11

...Day 44: and rumours that a shining star is in the east and heralds the arrival from Israel of someone whose name begins with a J.
If true I won't be an ass and crib anymore, we desperately need a manger!
Will our messiah be announced officially on Riggsmas day..?

:Happy New Year 2:  :xmas bell:  xma1
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bobby01

Quote from: LBNo11 on December 22, 2015, 02:26:36 PM
...Day 44: and rumours that a shining star is in the east and heralds the arrival from Israel of someone whose name begins with a J.
If true I won't be an ass and crib anymore, we desperately need a manger!
Will our messiah be announced officially on Riggsmas day..?

:Happy New Year 2:  :xmas bell:  xma1


Lol ed
Watching the ups and downs since 1958, wouldn't have it any other way, what a roller coaster of a club.

Neil D

Quote from: bobby01 on December 22, 2015, 02:27:55 PM

...Day 44: and rumours that a shining star is in the east and heralds the arrival from Israel of someone whose name begins with a J.
If true I won't be an ass and crib anymore, we desperately need a manger!
Will our messiah be announced officially on Riggsmas day..?

:Happy New Year 2:  :xmas bell:  xma1
Nice one.