Quote from: Buffalo76 on November 07, 2015, 04:23:20 PM
Pearson. No- nonsense type of manager.
Quote from: Buffalo76 on November 07, 2015, 04:23:20 PM
Pearson. No- nonsense type of manager.
Quote from: grandad on November 07, 2015, 05:22:20 PMWhy are so few decent managers British? Maybe we should look abroad if we want to avoid the discard pile from other clubs...but then we tried that with Jol / Meulenstein / Magath...
Why should we hire any one from that list of losers & has beens. I would want someone who is doing the business now. Managers are no different from players. If you offer enough money in salary & transfer funds you can get almost anyone.
Anyone from the list mentioned would be frying pan fire for me.
Quote from: Domino1879 on November 07, 2015, 05:58:57 PM
Always wanted Laudrup - would get good football and command respect.
Let's face it, Kit is a pussy cat.
Quote from: grandad on November 07, 2015, 05:22:20 PM
Why should we hire any one from that list of losers & has beens. I would want someone who is doing the business now. Managers are no different from players. If you offer enough money in salary & transfer funds you can get almost anyone.
Anyone from the list mentioned would be frying pan fire for me.
Agreed. Get someone who is successful now and make them an offer they can't refuse. Show some ambition FFC Board
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on November 07, 2015, 05:53:03 PMI'd be happy with that
Not a one on that list for me. Bob Bradley. Won't happen and won't be accepted with this bunch. Still my choice.
Quote from: alexmur on November 07, 2015, 06:09:42 PMQuote from: ToodlesMcToot on November 07, 2015, 05:53:03 PMI'd be happy with that
Not a one on that list for me. Bob Bradley. Won't happen and won't be accepted with this bunch. Still my choice.
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Quote from: Swiss72 on November 07, 2015, 06:13:11 PMto much of a gamble for me. He would be the fourth manager in a row to never have managed in England before being appointed to us. He is only on his first season in Europe too isn't he?Quote from: alexmur on November 07, 2015, 06:09:42 PMQuote from: ToodlesMcToot on November 07, 2015, 05:53:03 PMI'd be happy with that
Not a one on that list for me. Bob Bradley. Won't happen and won't be accepted with this bunch. Still my choice.
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Me too.
Quote from: f321ffc on November 07, 2015, 05:48:47 PM
(http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38641000/jpg/_38641609_tigana220.jpg)
Quote from: grandad on November 07, 2015, 05:22:20 PMNot sure Pearson was a loser, just had an attitude problem with Leicester. Certainly had fire in his belly and would like to see that in our players.
Why should we hire any one from that list of losers & has beens. I would want someone who is doing the business now. Managers are no different from players. If you offer enough money in salary & transfer funds you can get almost anyone.
Anyone from the list mentioned would be frying pan fire for me.
Quote from: love4ffc on November 07, 2015, 06:00:49 PMNo he would be a kit katQuote from: Domino1879 on November 07, 2015, 05:58:57 PM
Always wanted Laudrup - would get good football and command respect.
Let's face it, Kit is a pussy cat.
Or would that make him a Kit-ten :005:
Quote from: fulhamben on November 07, 2015, 06:17:43 PMI also believe he is leaving Stabaek at the end of the Danish season, but for me too would be a gamble after the 4 previous guysQuote from: Swiss72 on November 07, 2015, 06:13:11 PMto much of a gamble for me. He would be the fourth manager in a row to never have managed in England before being appointed to us. He is only on his first season in Europe too isn't he?Quote from: alexmur on November 07, 2015, 06:09:42 PMQuote from: ToodlesMcToot on November 07, 2015, 05:53:03 PMI'd be happy with that
Not a one on that list for me. Bob Bradley. Won't happen and won't be accepted with this bunch. Still my choice.
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Me too.
Quote from: aaronmcguigan on November 07, 2015, 06:56:56 PMMy Zdenek is better than yours. Where did you get him from? Grygera has no managerial experience, though clearly a talented player in his day.
Zdenek Grygera
Quote from: Neil D on November 07, 2015, 06:24:54 PMThats the trouble with wiki, anyone with a keyboard can make things up on it.Quote from: f321ffc on November 07, 2015, 05:48:47 PM
(http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/images/38641000/jpg/_38641609_tigana220.jpg)
Read the last line of the Wiki page under 'Managerial statistics'. Maybe Wiki knows something we don't...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Tigana (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Tigana)
Quote from: Wimbledon_White on November 07, 2015, 05:26:15 PMBlimey, if Khans patience matches yours we will be relegated!
Alas, if we announced Paul Lambert as manager tomorrow; I wouldn't bemoan the decision.
I'd be gutted for Kit but I wouldn't complain. I am happy to give him till Xmas but I would understand if Khan's patience didn't match mine.
Quote from: MJG on November 07, 2015, 10:07:45 PMI think Laudrup is overrated too, however Rodgers has shown he can do good things with teams even if the mighty Liverpool is too big a step for him. Sadly there is now way St Brendan is coming to the Cottage. I think we should get ready to accept a Pearson or Lambert level appointment. Both can do a job for us with the squad we have.
I don't get the Laudrup stuff, he walked into a decent setup at Swansea so not as if he built that up. similar to Rodgers as well. How much of it was them or just the setup at the club.
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Quote from: Berserker on November 07, 2015, 10:37:31 PM
Isn't MON still Ireland's manager?
Quote from: fulhamben on November 07, 2015, 06:17:43 PMQuote from: Swiss72 on November 07, 2015, 06:13:11 PMto much of a gamble for me. He would be the fourth manager in a row to never have managed in England before being appointed to us. He is only on his first season in Europe too isn't he?Quote from: alexmur on November 07, 2015, 06:09:42 PMQuote from: ToodlesMcToot on November 07, 2015, 05:53:03 PMI'd be happy with that
Not a one on that list for me. Bob Bradley. Won't happen and won't be accepted with this bunch. Still my choice.
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Me too.
Quote from: David Allen Crankshaw on November 08, 2015, 06:04:42 AMThen who....another one without previous experience or someone doing well in their first job?
None of the names mentioned. All failures at previous clubs.
Quote from: David Allen Crankshaw on November 08, 2015, 06:04:42 AM
None of the names mentioned. All failures at previous clubs.
Quote from: FPT on November 07, 2015, 10:16:18 PMoniell won't be leaving ireland till the playoffs are over
I must admit, I enjoyed watching O'Neil's Aston Villa team at its peak. When they had Gareth Barry, Stilyan Petrov, Ashley Young and James Milner. Whilst John Carew and Gabby Agbonlahor were putting in some career best form, Gabby scored the most goals of his career under O'Neil and bagged 10 assists too. They sat back, soaked the pressure and broke with pace; the defence wasn't the best, but they were well drilled and protected well. However, have we got the team to play on the counter?
He had financial issues at Aston Villa also, letting the wage bill rocket much higher than it should have been and Villa are still suffering the consequences. He threw his toys out of the pram when he was told that spending would be limited and left.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on November 07, 2015, 08:00:45 PM
Nigel Pearson for me, he is the kind of bloke that would succeed in this jungle called the Championship, and he would relish the challenge, and heaven help any player that did not take him seriously.
At the moment, Fulham is a holiday camp under Kit, and the players performances and under achievement reflect it.
Quote from: The Baron on November 08, 2015, 09:52:48 AM
I know he has Chelsea connections but how about taking a punt on Jimmy Floyd Hasselbank? He's done brilliantly at Burton since going there and seems to combine the best of English and continental coaching ideas. Could be another Tigana.
Quote from: grandad on November 08, 2015, 11:03:19 AM
I have read most of what has been written about Nigel Pearsom. He is not the sort of person I would want at my club.Trouble off the field where ever he has gone.
Quote from: Wimbledon_White on November 08, 2015, 11:06:02 AMQuote from: grandad on November 08, 2015, 11:03:19 AM
I have read most of what has been written about Nigel Pearsom. He is not the sort of person I would want at my club.Trouble off the field where ever he has gone.
I quite agree.
Clearly a nasty bit of work.
Quote from: One Martin Thomas on November 08, 2015, 11:12:59 AMNothing wrong with nasty so long as nastiness is aimed in the right direction. We are the "nicest" team in the Championship with fewer fouls than anyone. What good is that doing us?. (although players getting red cards doesn't help)
Some of the MOTD interviews with Pearson did show him to be a bit nasty... but he looked after his own. Nasty or not, we need someone with a brain and to get that team up within two / three years.
Quote from: J on November 08, 2015, 01:55:08 PM
Oo her... Let's appoint that Chelsea doctor :D
Quote from: Robbie on November 08, 2015, 02:48:48 PM
Pearson, Lambert, Holloway.
Quote from: The Moose on November 08, 2015, 02:37:55 PMOur young talent are our better players. Can't see them being dropped
Whoever it is must be willing to utilise our young talent. It would be a crime for them to be dropped after so much development.
Quote from: grandad on November 08, 2015, 02:51:59 PM
Why this fixation with Pearson & Lambert?
I have seen 30 different managers in my time supporting Fulham & I would take anyone of them over those two with perhaps the exception of Magath
Quote from: Wimbledon_White on November 08, 2015, 02:04:30 PM
Parker and Curbs to take caretaker charge?
Is Curbs a genuine option as a perm replacement?
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on November 08, 2015, 03:49:41 PM
nigel pearson is available and not a has been. he wasn't sacked because of poor results.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on November 08, 2015, 03:57:31 PMThat reminds me of the advertising slogan of the Club 18-30 holiday company from the 1970s: 'Beaver Espana'. Wouldn't happen now.Quote from: J on November 08, 2015, 01:55:08 PM
Oo her... Let's appoint that Chelsea doctor :D
Yes Eva Beaver, she would get the players circulation boiling, and the supporters.
Quote from: General on November 08, 2015, 04:32:23 PM
Brendan Rogers?
Quote from: spoonffc on November 08, 2015, 04:02:12 PM
alan curbishley - 40/1? - that has to be worth a tenner
Quote from: aaronmcguigan on November 08, 2015, 04:34:38 PM
Bruce is 2/1 fave at skybet
Quote from: Riether Lightning 63 on November 08, 2015, 04:38:50 PMIf Curbishley is any good how come he couldnt help Kit find some concistency.Quote from: spoonffc on November 08, 2015, 04:02:12 PM
alan curbishley - 40/1? - that has to be worth a tenner
That's where my money is going
Quote from: General on November 08, 2015, 04:34:52 PMInteresting link. From that list, how about Stramaccioni? Still young (39) and in his two stints at Inter-Milan averaged 1.60 ppm and 2.08ppm...I'd settle for that.
http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/trainer/verfuegbaretrainer/statistik (http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/trainer/verfuegbaretrainer/statistik)
Quote from: Nero on November 08, 2015, 04:26:05 PM
So I will tell you now who the next Fulham manager will be
Sean Dyche
Quote from: ROKERITE on November 08, 2015, 04:52:04 PMQuote from: Nero on November 08, 2015, 04:26:05 PM
So I will tell you now who the next Fulham manager will be
Sean Dyche
He'd be a very good appointment. I wanted him rather than Allardyce.
Quote from: Rambling Syd version 2 on November 08, 2015, 06:09:39 PM
Steve Bruce odds on apparently
Quote from: Rambling Syd version 2 on November 08, 2015, 06:09:39 PMSomeone needs to explain why he would want to leave Hull, top of the Championship, for Fulham? Also, why would he be favourite with Sky (6/4 on) for the Fulham job and not figure at all as the next QPR manager? Could it be the river view?
Steve Bruce odds on apparently
Quote from: David Allen Crankshaw on November 08, 2015, 06:14:05 PMmate, if you are holding out for pep then you are going to be sorely dissapointed. There's some quality in that list, I'd imagine quite a few of those could do a job for us
What a dreadful list of 47 potential managers. The only one that wouldn't leave me in utter despair would be the 47th person on the list by the name of Alan Curbishley.
Quote from: steve magnets on November 08, 2015, 06:34:01 PMAn unlikely move with us being in the Championship. However if Santa is a Fulham supporter could you please give the club and supporters an early Xmas present.
Moyes sacked now that would be a sign of intent
Quote from: Burt on November 08, 2015, 01:59:47 PM
How's this for a thought.
1. Lets wait and see who is appointed.
2. Lets back them rather than cast judgments before they have even taken a training session.
Do you think this will catch on?
:Get Coat gif:
Quote from: Burt on November 08, 2015, 01:59:47 PMSurefire winner. We will all have to do #1 and I'd expect the majority to do #2. But that doesn't prevent #3 Pass assessments on new cast of characters, almost all of whom won't ever have any connection with Fulham, which seems well underway. I'm enjoying reading the thread, so this isn't meant as a criticism of anyone, more an observation that football and soap opera have a fair bit in common.
How's this for a thought.
1. Lets wait and see who is appointed.
2. Lets back them rather than cast judgments before they have even taken a training session.
Do you think this will catch on?
:Get Coat gif:
Quote from: Riether Lightning 63 on November 07, 2015, 04:14:56 PM
Just taking a look at Oddschecker, these are a list of managers that are up for the QPR job (so at a similar level of pull to us). So out of THIS lot, who'd you take?
Nigel Pearson, Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink, Tim Sherwood, Alan Stubbs, Ian Holloway, Malky Makay, Michael Laudrup, Slavisa Jokanovic, Martin Jol, Glenn Hoddle, Malky Mackay, Alan Curbishley, Gus Poyet, Nigel Adkins
Quote from: aaronmcguigan on November 08, 2015, 07:55:06 PM
Can anyone pinpoint why Bruce has such short odds of coming here? Why would he leave the top of the championship?
Hes got history for jumping ship sideways: Wigan to Palace, Palace to Birmingham, Birmingham to Wigan, Wigan to Sunderland within the same division
Is it just money talks? I know the uncertainty with Yeung led to the Birmingham exit
Quote from: MJG on November 08, 2015, 08:34:09 PM
Fallen put with owner at Hull, linked with us as was the gang of fives main man after Kit, and Bruce has form on jumping ship all his career, hope he stays at Hull can't stand the bloke.
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Quote from: MJG on November 08, 2015, 08:38:21 PMQuite frankly Mike, I think he did bloody well to not over react to a lot of crap from the reporter !
Don't like Pearson or Bruce, here is Pearson at a press conference https://youtu.be/s-szdvFAJ3E
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Quote from: General on November 08, 2015, 09:01:32 PM
Steve Bruce would be my preferred candidate. I don't want us to get Harry Redknapp (he ruins clubs financially) and an average premiership manager (who's first professional job was in the premiership) like Tim Sherwood. I also think we should not by any stretch of the imagination be giving first chances to upcoming managers like Patrick Viera - we can't be a practice ground for these managers right now. We did that with Kit.
I think you seriously need to do your research Grandad before posting in the future, redknapp took Spurs to 5th in the premiership far from average, also you say his 1st job was In the premiership, yeah ok. So the man didn't start in management at Bournemouth!!!!!! Seriously if your gonna make a post get it right.
Quote from: MJG on November 08, 2015, 08:34:09 PM
Fallen put with owner at Hull, linked with us as was the gang of fives main man after Kit, and Bruce has form on jumping ship all his career, hope he stays at Hull can't stand the bloke.
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Quote from: Tooting legend on November 08, 2015, 09:13:20 PMQuote from: General on November 08, 2015, 09:01:32 PMI think the "first job being in the premiership" was supposed to be for sherwood. That's how I interpreted it anyway.
Steve Bruce would be my preferred candidate. I don't want us to get Harry Redknapp (he ruins clubs financially) and an average premiership manager (who's first professional job was in the premiership) like Tim Sherwood. I also think we should not by any stretch of the imagination be giving first chances to upcoming managers like Patrick Viera - we can't be a practice ground for these managers right now. We did that with Kit.
I think you seriously need to do your research Grandad before posting in the future, redknapp took Spurs to 5th in the premiership far from average, also you say his 1st job was In the premiership, yeah ok. So the man didn't start in management at Bournemouth!!!!!! Seriously if your gonna make a post get it right.
As for Harry, he is a very second rate manager. Yes he got spurs to 5th, but that's when they had a massive amount of top draw players and kept going off the boil after Xmas. Blaming it on food poisoning iirc. I don't want him or rosie the dog anywhere near the cottage thanks.
Not overly keen on Bruce either. But he's been tipped for the job everytime kit lost a game (so every other match going by stats!). But I don't think he's the right fit. Don't really know who we should bring in, but the board need to think long and hard and have a proper plan B and C in case it all goes Pete tong.
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Quote from: Buffalo76 on November 08, 2015, 10:10:34 PM
Don't let that twitchy droopy eyed crook anywhere near our dugout.
Quote from: CincyFulham1 on November 08, 2015, 10:42:39 PM100 :plus one:Quote from: Buffalo76 on November 08, 2015, 10:10:34 PM
Don't let that twitchy droopy eyed crook anywhere near our dugout.
A bit harsh....but :plus one:
Quote from: WORTHINGFULHAM on November 08, 2015, 10:57:17 PM
I personally think we will be looking bigger than Bruce, we won't be messing around, khan will get someone bigger, with more experience and a known name in football, think the announcement when it comes will take most by surprise.
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on November 07, 2015, 05:53:03 PM
Not a one on that list for me. Bob Bradley. Won't happen and won't be accepted with this bunch. Still my choice.
Quote from: Loz on November 08, 2015, 07:50:27 PM
Not sure why people are so anti-Sherwood. He had a good win record at Spurs and didn't deserve the boot there. Last season he kept up a Villa squad that was relegation fodder for me, didn't get backed to strengthen properly in the summer so never had much of a chance to shine there. He's ambitious, straight-talking, a Londoner and he never seems to never accept defeat- that last point is key for me.
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on November 08, 2015, 06:56:22 PM
good at everton, but a failure at his next two jobs. be careful what you wish for.
he won't come to us anyway even if we want him.
Quote from: Bronaldinho on November 09, 2015, 07:02:38 AMDi Matteo not for me, Bradley like wise his record since leaving the US team is extremely poor, and Pearson I just don't like his attitude towards fans. I would rather have Wilkins in charge than Pearson or maybe go after Phil Brown.
Pearson, Moyes, Bob Bradley, Di Matteo, Gary Rowett.
Any of those would be great, but would be quite ambitious I reckon.
Quote from: sunburywhite on November 08, 2015, 07:32:19 PMSunbury dude - earlier on you proposed Montella. We need to be more consistent in our punditry. Like you, I wouldn't mind either - provided we are prepared to write off this season (which it is, to be fair) so that any foreign manager gets to gel with the squad and the realities of the Championship.
Roberto Di Matteo would be a good fit
Quote from: Neil D on November 08, 2015, 06:26:03 PMI'd say money would have alot to do with itQuote from: Rambling Syd version 2 on November 08, 2015, 06:09:39 PMSomeone needs to explain why he would want to leave Hull, top of the Championship, for Fulham? Also, why would he be favourite with Sky (6/4 on) for the Fulham job and not figure at all as the next QPR manager? Could it be the river view?
Steve Bruce odds on apparently
Quote from: steve magnets on November 08, 2015, 06:34:01 PMNot yet, apparently. 'Facing the sack' according to Sky Sport this morning...
Moyes sacked now that would be a sign of intent
Quote from: Wearethewhites on November 09, 2015, 10:51:56 AMhe is now 7/4 favorite with sky bet. Bruce second @ 4/1
Slavsa Jokanovic straight in at 4/1 Sky Bet
Quote from: sipwell on November 09, 2015, 11:32:33 AM
Why is Hasselbaink in the shortlist? He failed at Antwerp FC, a second division club here in Belgium. Can't really see what an extra year would bring as added bonus to pick him, really...
Quote from: Riether Lightning 63 on November 09, 2015, 11:36:28 AMQuote from: sipwell on November 09, 2015, 11:32:33 AM
Why is Hasselbaink in the shortlist? He failed at Antwerp FC, a second division club here in Belgium. Can't really see what an extra year would bring as added bonus to pick him, really...
The fact that he took over Burton Albion and more or less took League 2 by storm. Only lost three times under him from November onwards, while only conceding more than one goal in a game ONCE in that time. Now joint top of League 1 with more wins than anyone in the division
Quote from: Wearethewhites on November 09, 2015, 10:51:56 AMSaw him on oddschecker yesterday at 12/1 as i checked to see who was being banded about
Slavsa Jokanovic straight in at 4/1 Sky Bet
Quote from: sipwell on November 09, 2015, 11:38:36 AMQuote from: Riether Lightning 63 on November 09, 2015, 11:36:28 AMQuote from: sipwell on November 09, 2015, 11:32:33 AM
Why is Hasselbaink in the shortlist? He failed at Antwerp FC, a second division club here in Belgium. Can't really see what an extra year would bring as added bonus to pick him, really...
The fact that he took over Burton Albion and more or less took League 2 by storm. Only lost three times under him from November onwards, while only conceding more than one goal in a game ONCE in that time. Now joint top of League 1 with more wins than anyone in the division
Yeah well, his managing style was really not that impressive here in Belgium. His training was doubtful too. Doesn't this simply mean he has a good backroom staff? Antwerp was a team competing (at the beginning of the season) for a play-off place. Never got close in the end...
Quote from: alexmur on November 09, 2015, 01:20:58 PMWho, for example? Assuming that the distinction between head coach and manager is not merely one of sophistry, then we need a manager.
aparantly we are looking for a head coach not a manager that surly rules out a few people
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Quote from: zander on November 09, 2015, 01:11:32 PM
New update on sky....
FULHAM EYE TRIO
Sky sources understand Fulham are hopeful of speaking to Paul Lambert, Uwe Rosler and Nigel Pearson regarding the vacant manager's position at the club.
Kit Symons was sacked as manager after Saturday's 5-2 defeat by Birmingham in the Championship, leaving them 12th.
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on November 09, 2015, 01:28:19 PMAgree Rosler has been sacked from his last 2 jobs and had neithe rof them for longer than 10 months. Of the 3 mentioned the only one worth considering for me is Lambert, but I hope we have more than those 3 on any shortlist we may have.Quote from: zander on November 09, 2015, 01:11:32 PM
New update on sky....
FULHAM EYE TRIO
Sky sources understand Fulham are hopeful of speaking to Paul Lambert, Uwe Rosler and Nigel Pearson regarding the vacant manager's position at the club.
Kit Symons was sacked as manager after Saturday's 5-2 defeat by Birmingham in the Championship, leaving them 12th.
this is the problem. i am pleased we have taken the decision to change manager, but if we end up with someone like rosler that will be a disaster.
Quote from: Neil D on November 09, 2015, 01:27:51 PMguess you could rule moyes out and possibly Bruce. to be honest I don't really see the difference. maybe we are just looking for someone to fill kits shoes rather then a whole new back room staff, that a manager would wantQuote from: alexmur on November 09, 2015, 01:20:58 PMWho, for example? Assuming that the distinction between head coach and manager is not merely one of sophistry, then we need a manager.
aparantly we are looking for a head coach not a manager that surly rules out a few people
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Quote from: westcliff white on November 09, 2015, 08:04:50 AMQuote from: Bronaldinho on November 09, 2015, 07:02:38 AMDi Matteo not for me, Bradley like wise his record since leaving the US team is extremely poor, and Pearson I just don't like his attitude towards fans. I would rather have Wilkins in charge than Pearson or maybe go after Phil Brown.
Pearson, Moyes, Bob Bradley, Di Matteo, Gary Rowett.
Any of those would be great, but would be quite ambitious I reckon.
Rowett would be good, but sadly don't see him leaving Birmingham at all.
Being serious about a new coach then for me maybe Lambert or Hoddle, even Martin O'Neil, it seems he maybe available after the play off games coming up. As a long shot or two (and I am not sure we need that after the last 18/24 months or so) then maybe JFH from Burton or Laudrup from which ever arab club he coaches.
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on November 09, 2015, 01:45:14 PMNope his record for Egypt was poor, being honest I didnt know he had been there till I read it this morning, but knew he was at Stabaek, working for a Scandinavian country we get updates from clubs we have links with, and he isnt that popular there and his record isnt that of legends.Quote from: westcliff white on November 09, 2015, 08:04:50 AMQuote from: Bronaldinho on November 09, 2015, 07:02:38 AMDi Matteo not for me, Bradley like wise his record since leaving the US team is extremely poor, and Pearson I just don't like his attitude towards fans. I would rather have Wilkins in charge than Pearson or maybe go after Phil Brown.
Pearson, Moyes, Bob Bradley, Di Matteo, Gary Rowett.
Any of those would be great, but would be quite ambitious I reckon.
Rowett would be good, but sadly don't see him leaving Birmingham at all.
Being serious about a new coach then for me maybe Lambert or Hoddle, even Martin O'Neil, it seems he maybe available after the play off games coming up. As a long shot or two (and I am not sure we need that after the last 18/24 months or so) then maybe JFH from Burton or Laudrup from which ever arab club he coaches.
Really? Which part of his record is "extremely poor"? I've followed his career fairly closely since he left the US team and don't recall ever reading anything from anyone that came close to that characterization which makes me think your just pulling that opinion out of thin air.
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on November 09, 2015, 01:53:30 PMIt's not as black and white as that things it?
Am I alone in finding zero inspiration from the words "ex-Villa manager"? If the stated goal of promotion is still true, why hire a manager to get us promoted when we know he was fired because he had trouble keeping a bigger club out of the PL relegation fray?
Quote from: westcliff white on November 09, 2015, 01:49:53 PMQuote from: ToodlesMcToot on November 09, 2015, 01:45:14 PMNope his record for Egypt was poor, being honest I didnt know he had been there till I read it this morning, but knew he was at Stabaek, working for a Scandinavian country we get updates from clubs we have links with, and he isnt that popular there and his record isnt that of legends.Quote from: westcliff white on November 09, 2015, 08:04:50 AMQuote from: Bronaldinho on November 09, 2015, 07:02:38 AMDi Matteo not for me, Bradley like wise his record since leaving the US team is extremely poor, and Pearson I just don't like his attitude towards fans. I would rather have Wilkins in charge than Pearson or maybe go after Phil Brown.
Pearson, Moyes, Bob Bradley, Di Matteo, Gary Rowett.
Any of those would be great, but would be quite ambitious I reckon.
Rowett would be good, but sadly don't see him leaving Birmingham at all.
Being serious about a new coach then for me maybe Lambert or Hoddle, even Martin O'Neil, it seems he maybe available after the play off games coming up. As a long shot or two (and I am not sure we need that after the last 18/24 months or so) then maybe JFH from Burton or Laudrup from which ever arab club he coaches.
Really? Which part of his record is "extremely poor"? I've followed his career fairly closely since he left the US team and don't recall ever reading anything from anyone that came close to that characterization which makes me think your just pulling that opinion out of thin air.
I don't pull things out of thin air as I am not a magician, just relay what I read and give my opinion. For me he would be a disaster, never managed in a top league and I fear it would be the sameimpact as that we had with Kit. If he got the job then I would back him and hope that he proves me wrong, I have no issue with eating my words, as I did about players we have signed in the past, most Notably McBride. Never saw him as an ideal replacement for Saha, but he proved me wrong with how good he was.
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on November 09, 2015, 01:53:30 PM
Am I alone in finding zero inspiration from the words "ex-Villa manager"? If the stated goal of promotion is still true, why hire a manager to get us promoted when we know he was fired because he had trouble keeping a bigger club out of the PL relegation fray?
Quote from: MJG on November 09, 2015, 02:01:07 PMQuote from: ToodlesMcToot on November 09, 2015, 01:53:30 PMIt's not as black and white as that things it?
Am I alone in finding zero inspiration from the words "ex-Villa manager"? If the stated goal of promotion is still true, why hire a manager to get us promoted when we know he was fired because he had trouble keeping a bigger club out of the PL relegation fray?
Almost every manager has a failure on their CV, he didn't get them relegated and worked under tight budget.
I think when looking at every possible manager and their failures you need to look at what was going on in the background.
It's like Rosler, is it fair to take the Leeds sacking into account given the nutter in charge?
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on November 09, 2015, 02:02:58 PMI am aware yes but then quite a few countries in africa are professional, Although He did have access to some decent professionals playing abroad.Quote from: westcliff white on November 09, 2015, 01:49:53 PMQuote from: ToodlesMcToot on November 09, 2015, 01:45:14 PMNope his record for Egypt was poor, being honest I didnt know he had been there till I read it this morning, but knew he was at Stabaek, working for a Scandinavian country we get updates from clubs we have links with, and he isnt that popular there and his record isnt that of legends.Quote from: westcliff white on November 09, 2015, 08:04:50 AMQuote from: Bronaldinho on November 09, 2015, 07:02:38 AMDi Matteo not for me, Bradley like wise his record since leaving the US team is extremely poor, and Pearson I just don't like his attitude towards fans. I would rather have Wilkins in charge than Pearson or maybe go after Phil Brown.
Pearson, Moyes, Bob Bradley, Di Matteo, Gary Rowett.
Any of those would be great, but would be quite ambitious I reckon.
Rowett would be good, but sadly don't see him leaving Birmingham at all.
Being serious about a new coach then for me maybe Lambert or Hoddle, even Martin O'Neil, it seems he maybe available after the play off games coming up. As a long shot or two (and I am not sure we need that after the last 18/24 months or so) then maybe JFH from Burton or Laudrup from which ever arab club he coaches.
Really? Which part of his record is "extremely poor"? I've followed his career fairly closely since he left the US team and don't recall ever reading anything from anyone that came close to that characterization which makes me think your just pulling that opinion out of thin air.
I don't pull things out of thin air as I am not a magician, just relay what I read and give my opinion. For me he would be a disaster, never managed in a top league and I fear it would be the sameimpact as that we had with Kit. If he got the job then I would back him and hope that he proves me wrong, I have no issue with eating my words, as I did about players we have signed in the past, most Notably McBride. Never saw him as an ideal replacement for Saha, but he proved me wrong with how good he was.
You do realize that the majority of his Egyptian players weren't playing professionally from 2012 thru to their elimination, right? I think he did a fantastic job keeping them even slightly competitive considering the turmoil within the country during that time. Add in the fact that the country didn't have a functioning professional league from 2012 forward during the qualifying cycle and I come to a completely opposite opinion from yours. Heck rioters even burned down the FA headquarters during this time.
Quote from: cmg on November 09, 2015, 02:07:34 PM
I have no idea whether or not Bob Bradley would make a decent manager of this , or any other, club.
However his PWDL record in his previous two places of employment is:
Stabaek - 71 37 11 23
Egypt - 37 23 6 8
Quote from: westcliff white on November 09, 2015, 02:17:42 PMQuote from: ToodlesMcToot on November 09, 2015, 02:02:58 PMI am aware yes but then quite a few countries in africa are professional, Although He did have access to some decent professionals playing abroad.Quote from: westcliff white on November 09, 2015, 01:49:53 PMQuote from: ToodlesMcToot on November 09, 2015, 01:45:14 PMNope his record for Egypt was poor, being honest I didnt know he had been there till I read it this morning, but knew he was at Stabaek, working for a Scandinavian country we get updates from clubs we have links with, and he isnt that popular there and his record isnt that of legends.Quote from: westcliff white on November 09, 2015, 08:04:50 AMQuote from: Bronaldinho on November 09, 2015, 07:02:38 AMDi Matteo not for me, Bradley like wise his record since leaving the US team is extremely poor, and Pearson I just don't like his attitude towards fans. I would rather have Wilkins in charge than Pearson or maybe go after Phil Brown.
Pearson, Moyes, Bob Bradley, Di Matteo, Gary Rowett.
Any of those would be great, but would be quite ambitious I reckon.
Rowett would be good, but sadly don't see him leaving Birmingham at all.
Being serious about a new coach then for me maybe Lambert or Hoddle, even Martin O'Neil, it seems he maybe available after the play off games coming up. As a long shot or two (and I am not sure we need that after the last 18/24 months or so) then maybe JFH from Burton or Laudrup from which ever arab club he coaches.
Really? Which part of his record is "extremely poor"? I've followed his career fairly closely since he left the US team and don't recall ever reading anything from anyone that came close to that characterization which makes me think your just pulling that opinion out of thin air.
I don't pull things out of thin air as I am not a magician, just relay what I read and give my opinion. For me he would be a disaster, never managed in a top league and I fear it would be the sameimpact as that we had with Kit. If he got the job then I would back him and hope that he proves me wrong, I have no issue with eating my words, as I did about players we have signed in the past, most Notably McBride. Never saw him as an ideal replacement for Saha, but he proved me wrong with how good he was.
You do realize that the majority of his Egyptian players weren't playing professionally from 2012 thru to their elimination, right? I think he did a fantastic job keeping them even slightly competitive considering the turmoil within the country during that time. Add in the fact that the country didn't have a functioning professional league from 2012 forward during the qualifying cycle and I come to a completely opposite opinion from yours. Heck rioters even burned down the FA headquarters during this time.
My point is that he doesn't have a track record in club football of any note, similar to Kit and I do not think we can afford to take a punt this time.
Like CMG mentions on his post I do not know if BB or any manager would be a good choice but I am like everyone else just expressing my opinion on what I have heard and read. I may even say similar to yourself having followed him closely you say he would be great, I respect that opinion but disagree with it.
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on November 09, 2015, 01:53:30 PM
Am I alone in finding zero inspiration from the words "ex-Villa manager"? If the stated goal of promotion is still true, why hire a manager to get us promoted when we know he was fired because he had trouble keeping a bigger club out of the PL relegation fray?
Quote from: Hoppus on November 09, 2015, 01:40:25 PM
Paul Lambert? The most boring man on the planet.
Nigel Pearson would be great.
Quote from: FulhamFan2 on November 09, 2015, 02:35:08 PMQuote from: ToodlesMcToot on November 09, 2015, 01:53:30 PM
Am I alone in finding zero inspiration from the words "ex-Villa manager"? If the stated goal of promotion is still true, why hire a manager to get us promoted when we know he was fired because he had trouble keeping a bigger club out of the PL relegation fray?
Well, given the fact he has actually been promoted from this division with Norwich should, I would've thought, gives some inspiration, and yes, he struggled with Villa, on a shoe-string budget, but still has experience in top level European football, unlike some of the names being thrown around. Perhaps not the highest profile, box-office candidate but without question the best option we have.
Quote from: FulhamFan2 on November 09, 2015, 02:38:48 PM
If we appoint Bob Bradley we may as well prepare for life in League 1 next season.
Quote from: Adi-ffc on November 09, 2015, 03:16:05 PM
Quite mystified that Jokanovic isn't getting mentioned more. That guy means business.
Would have him in a heartbeat over Pearson, Lambert, Bradley, Sherwood or Hasselbaink.
Quote from: Adi-ffc on November 09, 2015, 03:16:05 PM
Quite mystified that Jokanovic isn't getting mentioned more. That guy means business.
Would have him in a heartbeat over Pearson, Lambert, Bradley, Sherwood or Hasselbaink.
Quote from: zander on November 09, 2015, 03:28:02 PMHes also in a job so not surprised hes not being mentioned, doing ok at Maccabi Tel Aviv FCQuote from: Adi-ffc on November 09, 2015, 03:16:05 PM
Quite mystified that Jokanovic isn't getting mentioned more. That guy means business.
Would have him in a heartbeat over Pearson, Lambert, Bradley, Sherwood or Hasselbaink.
He's currently the bookies favourite at 5/2
Quote from: MJG on November 09, 2015, 03:32:54 PMQuote from: zander on November 09, 2015, 03:28:02 PMHes also in a job so not surprised hes not being mentioned, doing ok at Maccabi Tel Aviv FCQuote from: Adi-ffc on November 09, 2015, 03:16:05 PM
Quite mystified that Jokanovic isn't getting mentioned more. That guy means business.
Would have him in a heartbeat over Pearson, Lambert, Bradley, Sherwood or Hasselbaink.
He's currently the bookies favourite at 5/2
Quote from: MJG on November 09, 2015, 03:32:54 PMQuote from: zander on November 09, 2015, 03:28:02 PMHes also in a job so not surprised hes not being mentioned, doing ok at Maccabi Tel Aviv FCQuote from: Adi-ffc on November 09, 2015, 03:16:05 PM
Quite mystified that Jokanovic isn't getting mentioned more. That guy means business.
Would have him in a heartbeat over Pearson, Lambert, Bradley, Sherwood or Hasselbaink.
He's currently the bookies favourite at 5/2
Quote from: HamsterWheel on November 09, 2015, 03:36:26 PMDoes he have his PC ready for his management power point display and best David Brent quotes?
Brendan on the way, put his suit on for the interview
http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/former-liverpool-boss-brendan-rodgers-pictured-riding-the-london-underground-a3110376.html (http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/former-liverpool-boss-brendan-rodgers-pictured-riding-the-london-underground-a3110376.html)
Quote from: Ichabod Magoo on November 09, 2015, 03:04:09 PM
It's funny how British-centric so many people's hopes seem to center on. I just hope they are not considering Lambert since I can't understand half the things he mumbles. :022:
Quote from: HamsterWheel on November 09, 2015, 03:36:26 PM
Brendan on the way, put his suit on for the interview
http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/former-liverpool-boss-brendan-rodgers-pictured-riding-the-london-underground-a3110376.html (http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/former-liverpool-boss-brendan-rodgers-pictured-riding-the-london-underground-a3110376.html)
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on November 09, 2015, 03:42:07 PMQuote from: Ichabod Magoo on November 09, 2015, 03:04:09 PM
It's funny how British-centric so many people's hopes seem to center on. I just hope they are not considering Lambert since I can't understand half the things he mumbles. :022:
Here's an outside possibility: most posters are in Britain and even more in England and they see English games on television and read about them in the newspapers and on-line and, conversely, follow overseas football less intently.
Presumably you are just as surprised and amused by those in America suggesting American managers, etc..
Quote from: Rambling Syd version 2 on November 09, 2015, 03:14:22 PM
I can't seethe attraction of Bob Bradley,I really can't
If this appoint goes very wrong and we go down,it could be curtains for us
It's that important,we have to ask some hard questions regarding "the new" manager
Is he a proven force in a very competitive league?
Is he used to dealing with pressure applied from the board everyday due to the money involved with promotion/demotion?
Can he organise a squad he didn't assemble into a capable defensive/offensive unit that can operate week in week out?
Can he get results straight out of the blocks?
BB shouldn't even be in the running for the job,if you ask the above questions!
Quote from: HamsterWheel on November 09, 2015, 03:36:26 PM
Brendan on the way, put his suit on for the interview
http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/former-liverpool-boss-brendan-rodgers-pictured-riding-the-london-underground-a3110376.html (http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/former-liverpool-boss-brendan-rodgers-pictured-riding-the-london-underground-a3110376.html)
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on November 09, 2015, 03:45:27 PMQuote from: Rambling Syd version 2 on November 09, 2015, 03:14:22 PM
I can't seethe attraction of Bob Bradley,I really can't
If this appoint goes very wrong and we go down,it could be curtains for us
It's that important,we have to ask some hard questions regarding "the new" manager
Is he a proven force in a very competitive league?
Is he used to dealing with pressure applied from the board everyday due to the money involved with promotion/demotion?
Can he organise a squad he didn't assemble into a capable defensive/offensive unit that can operate week in week out?
Can he get results straight out of the blocks?
BB shouldn't even be in the running for the job,if you ask the above questions!
Answering your questions:
No.
Yes, most certainly.
Yes.
As equally likely as anyone to do so.
I happen to believe he'd do well and get us promoted. I would say that the expectation that anyone would get us promoted THIS season is pretty unreasonable. Whomever would need quite a lot to go his way almost immediately. I'm not arguing that he's better than anyone's choice. I've only argued where others have dismissed him on pretty weak grounds IMO.
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on November 09, 2015, 01:53:30 PMThis is the club that reacted to yet another close shave with relegation by signing two of Fulham's relegation back 4. A club whose chairman seems to regret buying in and who invested in youth fairly disastrously as a policy taken above manager level. That several have tried with similar results suggests to me that assigning much blame to any of them might be misplaced.
Am I alone in finding zero inspiration from the words "ex-Villa manager"? If the stated goal of promotion is still true, why hire a manager to get us promoted when we know he was fired because he had trouble keeping a bigger club out of the PL relegation fray?
Quote from: Rambling Syd version 2 on November 09, 2015, 03:14:22 PM
I can't seethe attraction of Bob Bradley,I really can't
If this appoint goes very wrong and we go down,it could be curtains for us
It's that important,we have to ask some hard questions regarding "the new" manager
Is he a proven force in a very competitive league?
Is he used to dealing with pressure applied from the board everyday due to the money involved with promotion/demotion?
Can he organise a squad he didn't assemble into a capable defensive/offensive unit that can operate week in week out?
Can he get results straight out of the blocks?
BB shouldn't even be in the running for the job,if you ask the above questions!
Quote from: NogoodBoyo on November 09, 2015, 04:37:02 PM
Nobody would have predicted we could get Keegan in 1997. Imagine how much he must have cost. And we were in Div 2 when he came on board? He was the engine that gave us the momentum to climb upwards. Chairman Mo know a thing or two about managing a football club, even though he had never managed a football club.
The template is there for Chaka to follow. He just has to strap a big pair of huevos onto his back and go for it!
Mickey adams started it not keegan
Nogood "machtige maus, isit" Boyo
Quote from: Burt on November 09, 2015, 04:49:35 PM
David Moyes: Real Sociedad sack former Man Utd manager
David Moyes has been sacked as manager of La Liga strugglers Real Sociedad a day short of his one-year anniversary at the Spanish club.
The 52-year-old steered the Basque team to 12th spot last season after taking charge on 10 November 2014.
But La Real are only outside the relegation zone on goal difference and Friday's 2-0 defeat at Las Palmas was their fourth in five league games.
A Sociedad statement said they had decided to terminate Moyes's contract.
Assistant boss Billy McKinlay has also been sacked.
The club are 16th and face Europa League winners Sevilla and European champions Barcelona in their next two La Liga games after the international break.
The move to Sociedad was the Scot's first job after he was sacked as Manchester United manager in April 2014 following a 10-month spell in charge.
Moyes, who spent 11 years at Everton before succeeding Sir Alex Ferguson at Old Trafford, signed a contract to June 2016 and became Sociedad's fourth British manager
Harry Lowe was in charge for five years from 1930, while John Toshack had three spells in charge, with the last coming to an end in 2002.
Toshack's fellow Welshman Chris Coleman lasted less than seven months following his appointment in July 2007.
Quote from: J on November 09, 2015, 05:10:07 PM
Listen, if we get him then great, but please can everyone thinking we should go get Moyes reign it in a bit? It is extremely extremely unlikely he will come to us as he will be able to get a job straight into a Prem team as soon as there's a vacancy (Swansea maybe?).
If everyone starts putting us getting Moyes as a marker or a statement of intent or whatever, chances are you'll just be disappointed with whoever we appoint - which doesn't exactly do the new guy any favours, as well as thinking Khan isn't trying or whatever.
So unless there's some genuine indicators from the club or the press that we are in discussions everyone needs to accept that it's unrealistic.
is this a Moyes out thread
Quote from: Blanco on November 09, 2015, 05:12:56 PM
Not even worth talking about. My guess is he'll want to take a break from coaching. At least till next season. That said, he didn't take much of a break after United... Even so, he won't come to fulham.
Quote from: Blanco on November 09, 2015, 05:12:56 PM
Not even worth talking about. My guess is he'll want to take a break from coaching. At least till next season. That said, he didn't take much of a break after United... Even so, he won't come to fulham.
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on November 09, 2015, 05:16:17 PMQuote from: Blanco on November 09, 2015, 05:12:56 PM
Not even worth talking about. My guess is he'll want to take a break from coaching. At least till next season. That said, he didn't take much of a break after United... Even so, he won't come to fulham.Quote from: Blanco on November 09, 2015, 05:12:56 PM
Not even worth talking about. My guess is he'll want to take a break from coaching. At least till next season. That said, he didn't take much of a break after United... Even so, he won't come to fulham.
This is isn't it......its a Moyes out thread
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on November 09, 2015, 05:16:17 PMQuote from: Blanco on November 09, 2015, 05:12:56 PM
Not even worth talking about. My guess is he'll want to take a break from coaching. At least till next season. That said, he didn't take much of a break after United... Even so, he won't come to fulham.Quote from: Blanco on November 09, 2015, 05:12:56 PM
Not even worth talking about. My guess is he'll want to take a break from coaching. At least till next season. That said, he didn't take much of a break after United... Even so, he won't come to fulham.
This is isn't it......its a Moyes out thread
Quote from: Blanco on November 09, 2015, 05:46:01 PMQuote from: H4usuallysitting on November 09, 2015, 05:16:17 PMQuote from: Blanco on November 09, 2015, 05:12:56 PM
Not even worth talking about. My guess is he'll want to take a break from coaching. At least till next season. That said, he didn't take much of a break after United... Even so, he won't come to fulham.Quote from: Blanco on November 09, 2015, 05:12:56 PM
Not even worth talking about. My guess is he'll want to take a break from coaching. At least till next season. That said, he didn't take much of a break after United... Even so, he won't come to fulham.
This is isn't it......its a Moyes out thread
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Quote from: davew on November 09, 2015, 05:59:21 PMCould you explain why he would be same old same old?
No thanks, we want some improvement not same old, same old!!
Quote from: davew on November 09, 2015, 06:07:26 PM3rd year of management, one promotion behind him, doing well in the next.
Lack of experience!
Quote from: aaronmcguigan on November 09, 2015, 06:29:17 PM
A league one manager no matter how big a name doesn't exactly scream.. "Bringing us to the higher level of success we expect...."
Quote from: grandad on November 09, 2015, 11:33:38 AMWhy not, you have to pay for success!
Jokanovic wanted his salary trebled when he got Watford promoted.
Quote from: aaronmcguigan on November 09, 2015, 06:29:17 PM
A league one manager no matter how big a name doesn't exactly scream.. "Bringing us to the higher level of success we expect...."
Quote from: MJG on November 09, 2015, 06:11:18 PMJim, I would opt for Steve Maclaren, a wealth of experience and somebody I think our squad would respect and play for. At the end of the day, a manager is just a manager and it is the players who can determine what result we get, which is why I don't hold KS 100% responsible for all our poor performances, though as you know I was definitely 1 of the Kit out brigade!Quote from: davew on November 09, 2015, 06:07:26 PM3rd year of management, one promotion behind him, doing well in the next.
Lack of experience!
Whats your criteria then Dave? Just interested because seen so many names banded about today we need something to cut them down by.
Championship Exp?
Promotion from Championship? (If so that rules Moyes out, come to think of it Moyes was last in the championship what 11/12 years ago?)
Out or in a job?
Worked within last 2 years?
Not picking on you, just lots to consider and no one candidate is perfect in any sense of the word.
Quote from: davew on November 09, 2015, 07:13:19 PMDave W, I think you undervalue the role of a manager. I see a good manager as one who can make the team as a whole better than the sum of the individual players. So if you can combine a good manager and a good set of players, that should be a recipe for success. I would like to see the appointment of someone who has shown that they can get average players performing as a team, that outperforms another team with better players. (That might not be good English, but I hope you get what I mean).Quote from: MJG on November 09, 2015, 06:11:18 PMJim, I would opt for Steve Maclaren, a wealth of experience and somebody I think our squad would respect and play for. At the end of the day, a manager is just a manager and it is the players who can determine what result we get, which is why I don't hold KS 100% responsible for all our poor performances, though as you know I was definitely 1 of the Kit out brigade!Quote from: davew on November 09, 2015, 06:07:26 PM3rd year of management, one promotion behind him, doing well in the next.
Lack of experience!
Whats your criteria then Dave? Just interested because seen so many names banded about today we need something to cut them down by.
Championship Exp?
Promotion from Championship? (If so that rules Moyes out, come to think of it Moyes was last in the championship what 11/12 years ago?)
Out or in a job?
Worked within last 2 years?
Not picking on you, just lots to consider and no one candidate is perfect in any sense of the word.
Quote from: Wimbledon_White on November 09, 2015, 08:21:40 PMyes, and I find it very annoying, if you are not going to tell us then why say anything at all. But if true, then due to the speed of it, it must be someone on the dole as we wouldn't have poached from another club that quickly.
I am accepting that people are occasionally ITK but in this instance I am dubious.
Literally EVERY name mentioned this far has split opinion. His comments are so vague and 'bleeding obvious' that it makes me think it's someone trying to be smart.
Could be wrong mind.
Quote from: fulhamben on November 09, 2015, 08:17:25 PM
This was posted earlier on tiff. Manager is all lined up. Week to finalise legal side with Symons and new manager. Name will split fans -- Lp. Now I know it says no managers name, but lp was the poster who broke the Shad rumour two weeks before everyone else.
Quote from: Domino 1879 on November 09, 2015, 05:21:13 PMInteresting fact about Mr Moyes - his assistant at Real Sociedad was one Billy McKinlay (remember him) who has also left Sociedad!
This is an interesting one for me.
I met him on a train up to Preston a couple of years back. Very approachable and happy to chat about football matters. Said FFC were a good club who played 'some good stuff' - mind you that was two years ago.
Came across as being totally passionate about the game, and as I said was quite happy to chat away for a good twenty mins with me.
Obviously expectations at MUFC were ludicrously high and the pressure on Moyes was maybe too much. (In a way, his treatment was a bit like Roys at Anfield).
He's got to be worth considering but would he want to jump straight in to FFC so soon??
Quote from: cmg on November 09, 2015, 08:54:22 PM
FoF Expert Finds Flaw In New Manager's Plan For Success.
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Quote from: ful123 on November 09, 2015, 09:20:06 PMQuite right - what odds for Sir Alex of Ferguson? Out of work managerial wise at the moment!
Why are people talking about non proven and average managers.
Hasselbank being aired as a favourite.ffs last thing we need is another novice manager!
We are a route back to the premier league and can afford to be looking at a top manager not an also ran.
Quote from: Lighthouse on November 09, 2015, 09:32:24 PMMrs Lighthouse?
Yeah I know who is coming in. I can't say anything obviously. But no name will be favourite with everybody. But I think it is a gamble. Still there is no reason why She shouldn't succeed. But please don't press me on who it is. Good luck to her.
Quote from: Lighthouse on November 09, 2015, 09:32:24 PM
Yeah I know who is coming in. I can't say anything obviously. But no name will be favourite with everybody. But I think it is a gamble. Still there is no reason why She shouldn't succeed. But please don't press me on who it is. Good luck to her.
Quote from: HamsterWheel on November 09, 2015, 03:36:26 PM
Brendan on the way, put his suit on for the interview
http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/former-liverpool-boss-brendan-rodgers-pictured-riding-the-london-underground-a3110376.html (http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/former-liverpool-boss-brendan-rodgers-pictured-riding-the-london-underground-a3110376.html)
Quote from: Ichabod Magoo on November 10, 2015, 04:37:30 AMPossibly but he still has a contract with Fiorentina to 2017 with a release clause of €5m...So, either way, he ain't coming here.
A few people for some reason mentioned Montella - looks like he's going to Sampdoria.
Quote from: westcliff white on November 10, 2015, 08:44:30 AMThat was not the reason, hes been on a knife edge for last half dozen games.
I just heard the reason Moyes was sacked yesterday was that his flight back to Spain from London on Sunday was delayed or cancelled. Apparently he flew to the UK after Fridays game, maybe coincidence, maybe a long shot but a good rumour if what I heard is true.
Quote from: HamsterWheel on November 10, 2015, 11:12:52 AM
Haisselbank now in to 5/4 favourite (Sky Bet). Summats up !
Quote from: Burt on November 10, 2015, 11:48:26 AMFernandes Vs Khan on Hammersmith Broadway tonight, to the winner goes the spoils...or JFHQuote from: HamsterWheel on November 10, 2015, 11:12:52 AM
Haisselbank now in to 5/4 favourite (Sky Bet). Summats up !
We're in a fight with QPR over his services, if some of the media are to be believed.
Quote from: MJG on November 10, 2015, 11:43:15 AMStill a good rumour to keep people going till we know who we get.Quote from: westcliff white on November 10, 2015, 08:44:30 AMThat was not the reason, hes been on a knife edge for last half dozen games.
I just heard the reason Moyes was sacked yesterday was that his flight back to Spain from London on Sunday was delayed or cancelled. Apparently he flew to the UK after Fridays game, maybe coincidence, maybe a long shot but a good rumour if what I heard is true.
Quote from: Ordar on November 10, 2015, 12:20:23 PM
Hasselbaink now 10/11 on with Skybet.
Moyes second favourite at 6/1
Anyone else think that JFH would be a HUGE risk? I'll be annoyed if we don't at least approach Moyes
Quote from: Ordar on November 10, 2015, 12:20:23 PM
Hasselbaink now 10/11 on with Skybet.
Moyes second favourite at 6/1
Anyone else think that JFH would be a HUGE risk? I'll be annoyed if we don't at least approach Moyes
Quote from: Ordar on November 10, 2015, 12:20:23 PM
Hasselbaink now 10/11 on with Skybet.
Moyes second favourite at 6/1
Anyone else think that JFH would be a HUGE risk? I'll be annoyed if we don't at least approach Moyes
Quote from: MJG on November 10, 2015, 11:50:28 AMQuote from: Burt on November 10, 2015, 11:48:26 AMFernandes Vs Khan on Hammersmith Broadway tonight, to the winner goes the spoils...or JFHQuote from: HamsterWheel on November 10, 2015, 11:12:52 AM
Haisselbank now in to 5/4 favourite (Sky Bet). Summats up !
We're in a fight with QPR over his services, if some of the media are to be believed.
Quote from: love4ffc on November 10, 2015, 12:31:03 PMQuote from: MJG on November 10, 2015, 11:50:28 AMQuote from: Burt on November 10, 2015, 11:48:26 AMFernandes Vs Khan on Hammersmith Broadway tonight, to the winner goes the spoils...or JFHQuote from: HamsterWheel on November 10, 2015, 11:12:52 AM
Haisselbank now in to 5/4 favourite (Sky Bet). Summats up !
We're in a fight with QPR over his services, if some of the media are to be believed.
I'd take Khan to win a fight against Fernandes. :028:
Quote from: WORTHINGFULHAM on November 10, 2015, 12:45:09 PM
My view on the matter is if we are looking at pearson or lambert then we are not setting the bar particularly high in terms of expectations and long term success. We should be going for the big names with an intent to show we mean business and the long term goal is just that. Yes pearson and lambert are good managers although I am not so sure they are great managers or ever will be. Fayed bought in Keegan and no one expected that, we got Van Der Sar from juve and no one expected that either, but we aimed high and sold the dream. What with our new stand about to be developed, a great youth team and youngsters to suit, a strong squad and a chairman with money there is no reason why we shouldn't be setting our sights higher.
You get what you pay for and your Pearsons and Lamberts, hasslebanks, etc dosent say to me "we want success and we will get it with this guy" its a cheaper option and in my opinion not much of an improvement on kit.
Quote from: MJG on November 10, 2015, 12:51:50 PM
All those saying no to JFH would you take Gary Rowett?
Quote from: WORTHINGFULHAM on November 10, 2015, 12:45:09 PMFair enough. Time to name the big names who will be attracted to a md-ranking Championship club...
My view on the matter is if we are looking at pearson or lambert then we are not setting the bar particularly high in terms of expectations and long term success.
You get what you pay for and your Pearsons and Lamberts, hasslebanks, etc dosent say to me "we want success and we will get it with this guy" its a cheaper option and in my opinion not much of an improvement on kit.
Quote from: MJG on November 10, 2015, 01:04:15 PM
I've mentioned it here and on Cottage talk that I think you have three choices when picking a new manager:
1- The Big name signing, push the boat out and go for it..Moyes, Rodgers, Montella etc
2- The safe championship option, Pearson, Lambert, Rosler etc
3- The gamble, the left field newcomer. Could be a young up and coming manager from L1/2 or a coach who has a great reputation
I could argue for and against all three options and i'm torn between wanting a name like Moyes, the solid safe hands of Lambert and the excitement of a new fairly untested coach with a good reputation in JFH (or others).
If they were all sat in front of us and all had said yes and we would pay what they wanted, im sure 90% plus would go with Option 1, I'd like to take a fly at option 3 as well, but in reality, who do I think would get us out the championship?..at the moment Lambert (or similar).
Quote from: MJG on November 10, 2015, 01:04:15 PM
I've mentioned it here and on Cottage talk that I think you have three choices when picking a new manager:
1- The Big name signing, push the boat out and go for it..Moyes, Rodgers, Montella etc
2- The safe championship option, Pearson, Lambert, Rosler etc
3- The gamble, the left field newcomer. Could be a young up and coming manager from L1/2 or a coach who has a great reputation
I could argue for and against all three options and i'm torn between wanting a name like Moyes, the solid safe hands of Lambert and the excitement of a new fairly untested coach with a good reputation in JFH (or others).
If they were all sat in front of us and all had said yes and we would pay what they wanted, im sure 90% plus would go with Option 1, I'd like to take a fly at option 3 as well, but in reality, who do I think would get us out the championship?..at the moment Lambert (or similar).
Quote from: Ordar on November 10, 2015, 12:20:23 PMmassive risk we might as well kept kit
Hasselbaink now 10/11 on with Skybet.
Moyes second favourite at 6/1
Anyone else think that JFH would be a HUGE risk? I'll be annoyed if we don't at least approach Moyes
Quote from: Wimbledon_White on November 10, 2015, 01:01:17 PM
I find it astounding that people are saying we are already showing a lack of ambition.
Who exactly do you expect us to be attracting?
We are in The Championship and our budgets wont get us a Moyes, Rodgers or Allardyce. We can ask...but it would be futile.
The Lamberts, Pearsons, Bruces and Makays of this world are not us showing a 'lack of ambition'; quite the contrary, we are showing we have some self-awareness and realism.
Quote from: Nick Bateman on November 10, 2015, 02:03:33 PMno
One was surprised in the dismissal of Kit Symons however it shows the board, namely owner Khan, has a lot of ambition for this revered London club. Had he stuck with Symons, as many wanted, it would have been probably a slow progress taking years while our 'rookie' manager cut his teeth.
Unlike the premature sacking of the exciting René Meulensteen which indirectly caused Fulham's demotion from the PL, the board do not seem to have a ready replacement, hence I would like to tender an appropriate and capable manager in waiting, known other than Glenn Hoddle.
Hoddle many would say, has been away from actively managing a club, but he has been heavily involved in coaching youth setups and offered his services to Tottenham Hotspur, when the club mistakedly opted for the incompetant blagger Tim Sherwood.
Hoddle's style of football suits Fulham - he appreciates the 'beautiful game' choosing to pass and keep possession rather than "lump it" as so many do in the Championship and t'up North! He would be an ideal partner in charge of Fulham's evolving team, and those who remember of our rich history would recognise the symbiosis betwist both club and manager.
Rather than opt for a vociferous whinger such as Brendan Rodgers, I would throw my cap in with Hoddle to lead Fulham to greater destiny.
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on November 10, 2015, 02:42:31 PMhahaha
Why not have Hoddle and Rogers.....we wouldn't need a team - there combined ego's would be more than enough to fill the Cottage
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on November 10, 2015, 02:50:05 PM
:beer:Quote from: snarks on November 10, 2015, 02:39:01 PM
WM don't you think if Jol had been given the financial backing that would have worked then. I always thought he was a decent manager, he did a good job at Spurs, and OK back in Holland too.
He just got dealt a very poor hand in his second season, and lost a lot of faith in the club and Mo, by the start of his 3rd season, he was a shadow of the man that had come to the club.
I agree with you there, and Martin Jol ended up having to find bargain basement buys for two goats and a sheep, loans and free transfers, until it wore him down, and he started to lose his appetite, and was a shadow of the man who first joined Fulham. Yes you are right, he was starved of any real financial backing in his last 18 months. My one real criticism of him, was that he appeared to take little interest in the Academy.
Quote from: nose on November 10, 2015, 02:59:19 PMThat would the same Jol who basically pissed away £13m (wages & fees) on Parker and Stek?Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on November 10, 2015, 02:50:05 PM
:beer:Quote from: snarks on November 10, 2015, 02:39:01 PM
WM don't you think if Jol had been given the financial backing that would have worked then. I always thought he was a decent manager, he did a good job at Spurs, and OK back in Holland too.
He just got dealt a very poor hand in his second season, and lost a lot of faith in the club and Mo, by the start of his 3rd season, he was a shadow of the man that had come to the club.
I agree with you there, and Martin Jol ended up having to find bargain basement buys for two goats and a sheep, loans and free transfers, until it wore him down, and he started to lose his appetite, and was a shadow of the man who first joined Fulham. Yes you are right, he was starved of any real financial backing in his last 18 months. My one real criticism of him, was that he appeared to take little interest in the Academy.
i think you will find jol wasted a fortune on ruiz and berba, no wonder the chairman didn't want to give him too much more! he had [plenty of backing but was just useless.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on November 10, 2015, 03:12:02 PMAlways happy to helpQuote from: MJG on November 10, 2015, 03:04:25 PMQuote from: nose on November 10, 2015, 02:59:19 PMThat would the same Jol who basically pissed away £13m (wages & fees) on Parker and Stek?Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on November 10, 2015, 02:50:05 PM
:beer:Quote from: snarks on November 10, 2015, 02:39:01 PM
WM don't you think if Jol had been given the financial backing that would have worked then. I always thought he was a decent manager, he did a good job at Spurs, and OK back in Holland too.
He just got dealt a very poor hand in his second season, and lost a lot of faith in the club and Mo, by the start of his 3rd season, he was a shadow of the man that had come to the club.
I agree with you there, and Martin Jol ended up having to find bargain basement buys for two goats and a sheep, loans and free transfers, until it wore him down, and he started to lose his appetite, and was a shadow of the man who first joined Fulham. Yes you are right, he was starved of any real financial backing in his last 18 months. My one real criticism of him, was that he appeared to take little interest in the Academy.
i think you will find jol wasted a fortune on ruiz and berba, no wonder the chairman didn't want to give him too much more! he had [plenty of backing but was just useless.
Yes you make very good points, and I stand corrected.
Quote from: snarks on November 10, 2015, 03:25:39 PMBerba was not free, we paid a fee, (undisclosed as usual but believed to be £3-5M)
Hmm Berba came for Free, and I think Jol liked him so much he sacrificed Ruiz to it. Parker was a good purchase, but not with the players fulham had at the time. As for Stek, he could and should have been great for Fulham. Undone by a poor defence, well beyond it's sell by date. The fact he's doing OK at Southampton is an indication of what he could have been for Fulham.
Quote from: HamsterWheel on November 10, 2015, 03:36:01 PM
Betting shifted again - Nigel Pearson now 5/4 fave, Haisselbank drifted out to 11/4 and Moyes to 8/1.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on November 10, 2015, 06:02:20 AM
I am not sure that's a good idea, he doesn't speak English.
Quote from: The Old Count on November 10, 2015, 04:03:10 PMtotally agree with you
Says the job at Fulham is 'an attractive proposition'.
Personally I'd rather not have him as manager. Didn't seem to do much as 'advisor' to Kit or maybe Kit wasn't listening.
I would much rather see either Lambert, Bruce or Moyes.
Quote from: Oakeshott on November 10, 2015, 04:18:16 PM
"Didn't seem to do much as 'advisor' to Kit or maybe Kit wasn't listening"
Impossible for us as fans to know which.
I think we could do a lot worse than offer Curbs. the job for the rest of the season. I'd prefer him to several of those speculated in the press as front runners, including Bruce. (Can't see attracting Moyes as a realistic proposition but if it is, great, despite the worryingly intense eyes.)
Quote from: Jimmy Hill on November 10, 2015, 03:54:04 PMI think you are right they are just reflecting where people are putting money on. think I might put a 10er on moyesQuote from: HamsterWheel on November 10, 2015, 03:36:01 PM
Betting shifted again - Nigel Pearson now 5/4 fave, Haisselbank drifted out to 11/4 and Moyes to 8/1.
yeah strange he is favouraite for both us and QPR. I dont think they have clue
Quote from: Ichabod Magoo on November 10, 2015, 04:19:15 PM
I'm not very confident that Khan will make the right choice no matter who it turns out to be. Nothing in his history with Jacksonville or Fulham leads me to believe anything different. He is very successful in business, but I haven't seen it translated to his clubs. He's a nice guy so I hope I'm wrong.
Quote from: Domino 1879 on November 10, 2015, 05:30:56 PMYep 100 percent.Quote from: Ichabod Magoo on November 10, 2015, 04:19:15 PM
I'm not very confident that Khan will make the right choice no matter who it turns out to be. Nothing in his history with Jacksonville or Fulham leads me to believe anything different. He is very successful in business, but I haven't seen it translated to his clubs. He's a nice guy so I hope I'm wrong.
Mark my words, this will be Riggs call.
Quote from: Wearethewhites on November 10, 2015, 01:23:47 PMQuote from: Wimbledon_White on November 10, 2015, 01:01:17 PM
I find it astounding that people are saying we are already showing a lack of ambition.
Who exactly do you expect us to be attracting?
We are in The Championship and our budgets wont get us a Moyes, Rodgers or Allardyce. We can ask...but it would be futile.
The Lamberts, Pearsons, Bruces and Makays of this world are not us showing a 'lack of ambition'; quite the contrary, we are showing we have some self-awareness and realism.
To be fair, you did constantly bang on about how Kit would be here for the rest of the season, only for him to be sacked 16 games in, so it'll be likely that we'll end up attracting one of the above names.
Quote from: MJG on November 10, 2015, 05:46:49 PM
Video just posted show he wants only a head coach and nothing more than that.
Quote from: Wimbledon_White on November 10, 2015, 05:35:20 PMQuote from: Wearethewhites on November 10, 2015, 01:23:47 PMQuote from: Wimbledon_White on November 10, 2015, 01:01:17 PM
I find it astounding that people are saying we are already showing a lack of ambition.
Who exactly do you expect us to be attracting?
We are in The Championship and our budgets wont get us a Moyes, Rodgers or Allardyce. We can ask...but it would be futile.
The Lamberts, Pearsons, Bruces and Makays of this world are not us showing a 'lack of ambition'; quite the contrary, we are showing we have some self-awareness and realism.
To be fair, you did constantly bang on about how Kit would be here for the rest of the season, only for him to be sacked 16 games in, so it'll be likely that we'll end up attracting one of the above names.
Deluded.
Quote from: grandad on November 10, 2015, 06:59:26 PM
So when we appoint a Head Coach will he wear a suit or tracksuit in the dugout on matchdays.?
Quote from: grandad on November 10, 2015, 06:59:26 PM
So when we appoint a Head Coach will he wear a suit or tracksuit in the dugout on matchdays.?
Quote from: Domino 1879 on November 10, 2015, 05:30:56 PMQuote from: Ichabod Magoo on November 10, 2015, 04:19:15 PM
I'm not very confident that Khan will make the right choice no matter who it turns out to be. Nothing in his history with Jacksonville or Fulham leads me to believe anything different. He is very successful in business, but I haven't seen it translated to his clubs. He's a nice guy so I hope I'm wrong.
Mark my words, this will be Riggs call.
Quote from: love4ffc on November 10, 2015, 07:12:52 PMQuote from: grandad on November 10, 2015, 06:59:26 PM
So when we appoint a Head Coach will he wear a suit or tracksuit in the dugout on matchdays.?
No he will wear a tracksuit in the Championship to show he means business. A suit when he gets us up to the PL to show he is better then all the Championship lot. A hoodie when he gets the sack and ends up in the Department of Work and Pensions so as to hide his mug.
Quote from: love4ffc on November 10, 2015, 07:12:52 PMQuote from: grandad on November 10, 2015, 06:59:26 PM
So when we appoint a Head Coach will he wear a suit or tracksuit in the dugout on matchdays.?
No he will wear a tracksuit in the Championship to show he means business. A suit when he gets us up to the PL to show he is better then all the Championship lot. A hoodie when he gets the sack and ends up in the Department of Work and Pensions so as to hide his mug.
Quote from: Luffy86 on November 10, 2015, 09:22:43 PMNot sure our ground is big enough for his ego
Hopefully we get Brendan Rogers... Would be a massive coup for us!!
Quote from: Luffy86 on November 10, 2015, 09:22:43 PM
Hopefully we get Brendan Rogers... Would be a massive coup for us!!
Quote from: westcliff white on November 10, 2015, 08:56:28 PM
Oscar Garcia linked as per sky at 20:08 not sure about this as didn't he have health issues?
Also at 18:28 Curbs doesn't rule himself out
Quote from: spikey norman on November 10, 2015, 09:57:05 PMHe won't get that as head coach...
Brightons Argus newspaper also reporting us being linked to Garcia with sources close to him saying that he is under consideration.He prefers title of head coach to manager and has good credentials having led Brighton to semi final playoffs in 13/14 season.He has already turned down offers this season to manage two Championship clubs as he would need convincing that wherever he goes he would have major say in areas such as player recruitment.
Quote from: Nero on November 10, 2015, 07:17:54 PM
Bowyer sacked at Blackburn another club looking for a manager
Quote from: Luffy86 on November 10, 2015, 09:22:43 PM
Hopefully we get Brendan Rogers... Would be a massive coup for us!!
Quote from: westcliff white on November 11, 2015, 07:42:55 AM
HITC Sport understands former Newcastle manager John Carver has applied for the Fulham job.
Former Newcastle United boss John Carver has thrown his hat into the ring the vacant manager's job at Fulham, HITC Sport understands from sources close to the club.
I have two words for that NO THANKS
Quote from: Wimbledon_White on November 11, 2015, 08:49:37 AM
Oscar Garcia now being tipped too.
I'd be happy with him. He did well at both Watford and Brighton right? Got them both into the play-offs anyway.
What was his ill-health about?
Quote from: Wimbledon_White on November 11, 2015, 08:49:37 AMDon't think they got to the playoffs under Garcia, but I could be wrong. Wasn't their last playoffs the losing semi v palace under poyet?
Oscar Garcia now being tipped too.
I'd be happy with him. He did well at both Watford and Brighton right? Got them both into the play-offs anyway.
What was his ill-health about?
Quote from: PokerMatt on November 11, 2015, 09:32:38 AMAgree Matt, the heart and blood pressure worries he has are a big concern I would have thoughtQuote from: Wimbledon_White on November 11, 2015, 08:49:37 AMDon't think they got to the playoffs under Garcia, but I could be wrong. Wasn't their last playoffs the losing semi v palace under poyet?
Oscar Garcia now being tipped too.
I'd be happy with him. He did well at both Watford and Brighton right? Got them both into the play-offs anyway.
What was his ill-health about?
.
I did see Brighton a bit under Garcia and they seemed very organised and good going forward too. I'd be happy with him, though the heart condition is a worry.
Quote from: westcliff white on November 11, 2015, 10:39:40 AMAnd there's the whole thing with him not being good enough.Quote from: PokerMatt on November 11, 2015, 09:32:38 AMAgree Matt, the heart and blood pressure worries he has are a big concern I would have thoughtQuote from: Wimbledon_White on November 11, 2015, 08:49:37 AMDon't think they got to the playoffs under Garcia, but I could be wrong. Wasn't their last playoffs the losing semi v palace under poyet?
Oscar Garcia now being tipped too.
I'd be happy with him. He did well at both Watford and Brighton right? Got them both into the play-offs anyway.
What was his ill-health about?
.
I did see Brighton a bit under Garcia and they seemed very organised and good going forward too. I'd be happy with him, though the heart condition is a worry.
Quote from: PokerMatt on November 11, 2015, 09:32:38 AMQuote from: Wimbledon_White on November 11, 2015, 08:49:37 AMDon't think they got to the playoffs under Garcia, but I could be wrong. Wasn't their last playoffs the losing semi v palace under poyet?
Oscar Garcia now being tipped too.
I'd be happy with him. He did well at both Watford and Brighton right? Got them both into the play-offs anyway.
What was his ill-health about?
.
I did see Brighton a bit under Garcia and they seemed very organised and good going forward too. I'd be happy with him, though the heart condition is a worry.
Quote from: FPT on November 11, 2015, 12:39:13 PMQuote from: PokerMatt on November 11, 2015, 09:32:38 AMQuote from: Wimbledon_White on November 11, 2015, 08:49:37 AMDon't think they got to the playoffs under Garcia, but I could be wrong. Wasn't their last playoffs the losing semi v palace under poyet?
Oscar Garcia now being tipped too.
I'd be happy with him. He did well at both Watford and Brighton right? Got them both into the play-offs anyway.
What was his ill-health about?
.
I did see Brighton a bit under Garcia and they seemed very organised and good going forward too. I'd be happy with him, though the heart condition is a worry.
Garcia took them to a successive play off spot the next season, finished 6th on 72 points (55GF, 40GA), they lost both legs in the semi to Derby - who went and somehow lost to QPR given the Rams dominated 89 minutes.
Quote Garcia on his style, "My philosophy is to keep the ball, to try to have the ball, to pass the ball as many times as possible and to find the correct moment to score. We are trying to get the ball back as soon as possible, and higher up the pitch. Normally we try to do it in five seconds. It is tough, but it is one of the things we are working a lot on in the training sessions, a lot of the drills we are doing is for this, transition as soon as possible. The best teams in the world, this is one of the things they control."
A former student of La Masia, played under (and coached with) Johan Cruyff, expect to see Barcelona-like possession based football were he to take over.
Quote from: Chutney on November 11, 2015, 03:11:06 PM
Jocelyn Gourvennec was at heathrow and travelling in to London, very good manager, would be a brilliant appointment if its us he's here to see. Lets hope he isnt seeing QPR.
Quote from: Lighthouse on November 11, 2015, 04:02:20 PMQuote from: Chutney on November 11, 2015, 03:11:06 PM
Jocelyn Gourvennec was at heathrow and travelling in to London, very good manager, would be a brilliant appointment if its us he's here to see. Lets hope he isnt seeing QPR.
But again no experience in our league and the Championship. Interesting to see which way the club goes.
Quote from: NogoodBoyo on November 11, 2015, 05:17:47 PMQuote from: Lighthouse on November 11, 2015, 04:02:20 PMQuote from: Chutney on November 11, 2015, 03:11:06 PM
Jocelyn Gourvennec was at heathrow and travelling in to London, very good manager, would be a brilliant appointment if its us he's here to see. Lets hope he isnt seeing QPR.
But again no experience in our league and the Championship. Interesting to see which way the club goes.
I think I am cutting a lonely figure in staking the position loudly and clearly that the last thing I want is Chump or League experience. I want originality, new ways of doing things, surprise and ambush, superb man-management, a person who lives, eats and breathes the game of strategy, not more of the boring same old same.
Well, a couple did pick up the flag when I mentioned this yesterday.
Nogood 'Alexander the Great, not Alexander Haig, isit" Boyo
Quote from: NogoodBoyo on November 11, 2015, 05:17:47 PMQuote from: Lighthouse on November 11, 2015, 04:02:20 PMQuote from: Chutney on November 11, 2015, 03:11:06 PM
Jocelyn Gourvennec was at heathrow and travelling in to London, very good manager, would be a brilliant appointment if its us he's here to see. Lets hope he isnt seeing QPR.
But again no experience in our league and the Championship. Interesting to see which way the club goes.
I think I am cutting a lonely figure in staking the position loudly and clearly that the last thing I want is Chump or League experience. I want originality, new ways of doing things, surprise and ambush, superb man-management, a person who lives, eats and breathes the game of strategy, not more of the boring same old same.
Well, a couple did pick up the flag when I mentioned this yesterday.
Nogood 'Alexander the Great, not Alexander Haig, isit" Boyo
Quote from: NogoodBoyo on November 11, 2015, 05:17:47 PMQuote from: Lighthouse on November 11, 2015, 04:02:20 PMQuote from: Chutney on November 11, 2015, 03:11:06 PM
Jocelyn Gourvennec was at heathrow and travelling in to London, very good manager, would be a brilliant appointment if its us he's here to see. Lets hope he isnt seeing QPR.
But again no experience in our league and the Championship. Interesting to see which way the club goes.
I think I am cutting a lonely figure in staking the position loudly and clearly that the last thing I want is Chump or League experience. I want originality, new ways of doing things, surprise and ambush, superb man-management, a person who lives, eats and breathes the game of strategy, not more of the boring same old same.
Well, a couple did pick up the flag when I mentioned this yesterday.
Nogood 'Alexander the Great, not Alexander Haig, isit" Boyo
Quote from: NogoodBoyo on November 11, 2015, 05:17:47 PMQuote from: Lighthouse on November 11, 2015, 04:02:20 PMQuote from: Chutney on November 11, 2015, 03:11:06 PM
Jocelyn Gourvennec was at heathrow and travelling in to London, very good manager, would be a brilliant appointment if its us he's here to see. Lets hope he isnt seeing QPR.
But again no experience in our league and the Championship. Interesting to see which way the club goes.
I think I am cutting a lonely figure in staking the position loudly and clearly that the last thing I want is Chump or League experience. I want originality, new ways of doing things, surprise and ambush, superb man-management, a person who lives, eats and breathes the game of strategy, not more of the boring same old same.
Well, a couple did pick up the flag when I mentioned this yesterday.
Nogood 'Alexander the Great, not Alexander Haig, isit" Boyo
Quote from: NogoodBoyo on November 11, 2015, 05:17:47 PMQuote from: Lighthouse on November 11, 2015, 04:02:20 PMQuote from: Chutney on November 11, 2015, 03:11:06 PM
Jocelyn Gourvennec was at heathrow and travelling in to London, very good manager, would be a brilliant appointment if its us he's here to see. Lets hope he isnt seeing QPR.
But again no experience in our league and the Championship. Interesting to see which way the club goes.
I think I am cutting a lonely figure in staking the position loudly and clearly that the last thing I want is Chump or League experience. I want originality, new ways of doing things, surprise and ambush, superb man-management, a person who lives, eats and breathes the game of strategy, not more of the boring same old same.
Well, a couple did pick up the flag when I mentioned this yesterday.
Nogood 'Alexander the Great, not Alexander Haig, isit" Boyo
Quote from: FPT on November 11, 2015, 02:03:02 PMI agree our squad is better. Key for me is we have players who can play football. Which is key for him.
I did see! I think our squad now is better than that Brighton squad, though they had wingers to bring more out of the 433 (though with the loan window and January, there's time).
Garcia is one I'd be happy to let build something at the football club for years. He comes across as one that'll give kids the opportunity to play too, gave Jake Forster-Caskey, Solly March, Rohan Ince their first proper full seasons appearance wise. I think that style and coaching would benefit a lot of our youngsters too, as well as the likes of Tom Cairney.
Quote from: FPT on November 11, 2015, 02:03:02 PM
I did see! I think our squad now is better than that Brighton squad, though they had wingers to bring more out of the 433 (though with the loan window and January, there's time).
Garcia is one I'd be happy to let build something at the football club for years. He comes across as one that'll give kids the opportunity to play too, gave Jake Forster-Caskey, Solly March, Rohan Ince their first proper full seasons appearance wise. I think that style and coaching would benefit a lot of our youngsters too, as well as the likes of Tom Cairney.
Quote from: PokerMatt on November 11, 2015, 07:07:32 PMQuote from: FPT on November 11, 2015, 02:03:02 PMI agree our squad is better. Key for me is we have players who can play football. Which is key for him.
I did see! I think our squad now is better than that Brighton squad, though they had wingers to bring more out of the 433 (though with the loan window and January, there's time).
Garcia is one I'd be happy to let build something at the football club for years. He comes across as one that'll give kids the opportunity to play too, gave Jake Forster-Caskey, Solly March, Rohan Ince their first proper full seasons appearance wise. I think that style and coaching would benefit a lot of our youngsters too, as well as the likes of Tom Cairney.
I think it's vital to have a coach who's willing to give the young players opportunities, both for us to improve as a club and to keep them with us until the time comes to sell for big money. I also think Garcia has unfinished business in England. He knows this league but isn't a dinosaur like some other options who also know this league.Quote from: FPT on November 11, 2015, 02:03:02 PM
I did see! I think our squad now is better than that Brighton squad, though they had wingers to bring more out of the 433 (though with the loan window and January, there's time).
Garcia is one I'd be happy to let build something at the football club for years. He comes across as one that'll give kids the opportunity to play too, gave Jake Forster-Caskey, Solly March, Rohan Ince their first proper full seasons appearance wise. I think that style and coaching would benefit a lot of our youngsters too, as well as the likes of Tom Cairney.
Quote from: f321ffc on November 11, 2015, 08:14:33 PMTranslation , well sort of.
From TIFF, Serbian media RE Jokanovic talking to Fulham
http://www.mozzartsport.com/vesti/slavisa-jokanovic-se-vraca-u-cempionsip/120368 (http://www.mozzartsport.com/vesti/slavisa-jokanovic-se-vraca-u-cempionsip/120368)
Quote from: rusty shackleford on November 11, 2015, 09:14:13 PM
Dick Simmons!
Quote from: f321ffc on November 11, 2015, 08:14:33 PM
From TIFF, Serbian media RE Jokanovic talking to Fulham
http://www.mozzartsport.com/vesti/slavisa-jokanovic-se-vraca-u-cempionsip/120368 (http://www.mozzartsport.com/vesti/slavisa-jokanovic-se-vraca-u-cempionsip/120368)
Quote from: ..FOF.. on November 12, 2015, 01:39:56 AM
A major coup would be someone who have some experience actually taking a team from Championship to the Premier League.
Quote from: westcliff white on November 12, 2015, 07:47:48 AM
Rigg mentioned experience surely this would not include this gentleman from France?
Quote from: Holders on November 12, 2015, 07:52:28 AMI took it as experience of the leagues we are in.Quote from: westcliff white on November 12, 2015, 07:47:48 AM
Rigg mentioned experience surely this would not include this gentleman from France?
I got the impression he was contrasting with Mr Symons who did not have first-team experience, nor of promotions.
Quote from: westcliff white on November 12, 2015, 07:56:40 AMThis would severely limit our options to a hand full of unexciting candidates.Quote from: Holders on November 12, 2015, 07:52:28 AMI took it as experience of the leagues we are in.Quote from: westcliff white on November 12, 2015, 07:47:48 AM
Rigg mentioned experience surely this would not include this gentleman from France?
I got the impression he was contrasting with Mr Symons who did not have first-team experience, nor of promotions.
Quote from: Chutney on November 12, 2015, 08:11:50 AMIf my understanding is correct (no guarantee there thats for sure), it may be an uninspiring list but it may give us the best chance. Think back to Roy how many on ere said Christ no, he was as some still saying gray and boring, but he kept us up when all looked lost.Quote from: westcliff white on November 12, 2015, 07:56:40 AMThis would severely limit our options to a hand full of unexciting candidates.Quote from: Holders on November 12, 2015, 07:52:28 AMI took it as experience of the leagues we are in.Quote from: westcliff white on November 12, 2015, 07:47:48 AM
Rigg mentioned experience surely this would not include this gentleman from France?
I got the impression he was contrasting with Mr Symons who did not have first-team experience, nor of promotions.
Quote from: Chutney on November 12, 2015, 08:11:50 AMQuote from: westcliff white on November 12, 2015, 07:56:40 AMThis would severely limit our options to a hand full of unexciting candidates.Quote from: Holders on November 12, 2015, 07:52:28 AMI took it as experience of the leagues we are in.Quote from: westcliff white on November 12, 2015, 07:47:48 AM
Rigg mentioned experience surely this would not include this gentleman from France?
I got the impression he was contrasting with Mr Symons who did not have first-team experience, nor of promotions.
Quote from: westcliff white on November 12, 2015, 08:15:58 AMRoy was an exciting candidate with a wealth of experience abroad, he had managed inter milan, Grasshopper, Switzerland, viking etc... He was hardly grey and uninspiring. We were punching well above our weight by appointing him and look at the great end result. We need this attitude again, it doesn't matter what league the manager comes from, its a track record of success that matters.Quote from: Chutney on November 12, 2015, 08:11:50 AMIf my understanding is correct (no guarantee there thats for sure), it may be an uninspiring list but it may give us the best chance. Think back to Roy how many on ere said Christ no, he was as some still saying gray and boring, but he kept us up when all looked lost.Quote from: westcliff white on November 12, 2015, 07:56:40 AMThis would severely limit our options to a hand full of unexciting candidates.Quote from: Holders on November 12, 2015, 07:52:28 AMI took it as experience of the leagues we are in.Quote from: westcliff white on November 12, 2015, 07:47:48 AM
Rigg mentioned experience surely this would not include this gentleman from France?
I got the impression he was contrasting with Mr Symons who did not have first-team experience, nor of promotions.
I look at making the playoffs in the same light as staying up back then, its hard, maybe improbable but not impossible with the right man, grey and uninspiring it maybe but Roy was the right man, not saying it will happen / work this time though
Quote from: Chutney on November 12, 2015, 08:38:08 AMChutney I am not disagreeing with you at all, and while I liked the appointment of Roy he was seen by many on this and other forums as a "Dull" appointment. After his first few games people were very gloomy, but, it all turned out well which is my point. We do not necessarily need and exciting over the top appointment, if the manager coming in is perceived by the majority to be dull but he gets results who cares, all that matters is that he is the right man. The only people I would hate to see her eoff the top of my head are Redknapp, Warnock and PearsonQuote from: westcliff white on November 12, 2015, 08:15:58 AMRoy was an exciting candidate with a wealth of experience abroad, he had managed inter milan, Grasshopper, Switzerland, viking etc... He was hardly grey and uninspiring. We were punching well above our weight by appointing him and look at the great end result. We need this attitude again, it doesn't matter what league the manager comes from, its a track record of success that matters.Quote from: Chutney on November 12, 2015, 08:11:50 AMIf my understanding is correct (no guarantee there thats for sure), it may be an uninspiring list but it may give us the best chance. Think back to Roy how many on ere said Christ no, he was as some still saying gray and boring, but he kept us up when all looked lost.Quote from: westcliff white on November 12, 2015, 07:56:40 AMThis would severely limit our options to a hand full of unexciting candidates.Quote from: Holders on November 12, 2015, 07:52:28 AMI took it as experience of the leagues we are in.Quote from: westcliff white on November 12, 2015, 07:47:48 AM
Rigg mentioned experience surely this would not include this gentleman from France?
I got the impression he was contrasting with Mr Symons who did not have first-team experience, nor of promotions.
I look at making the playoffs in the same light as staying up back then, its hard, maybe improbable but not impossible with the right man, grey and uninspiring it maybe but Roy was the right man, not saying it will happen / work this time though
Quote from: NogoodBoyo on November 11, 2015, 09:48:56 PMQuote from: f321ffc on November 11, 2015, 08:14:33 PM
From TIFF, Serbian media RE Jokanovic talking to Fulham
http://www.mozzartsport.com/vesti/slavisa-jokanovic-se-vraca-u-cempionsip/120368 (http://www.mozzartsport.com/vesti/slavisa-jokanovic-se-vraca-u-cempionsip/120368)
Nogood "Fulama the Serbish for Fulhamish, isit" Boyo
Quote from: westcliff white on November 12, 2015, 08:44:13 AMQuote from: Chutney on November 12, 2015, 08:38:08 AMChutney I am not disagreeing with you at all, and while I liked the appointment of Roy he was seen by many on this and other forums as a "Dull" appointment. After his first few games people were very gloomy, but, it all turned out well which is my point. We do not necessarily need and exciting over the top appointment, if the manager coming in is perceived by the majority to be dull but he gets results who cares, all that matters is that he is the right man. The only people I would hate to see her off the top of my head are Redknapp, Warnock and PearsonQuote from: westcliff white on November 12, 2015, 08:15:58 AMRoy was an exciting candidate with a wealth of experience abroad, he had managed inter milan, Grasshopper, Switzerland, viking etc... He was hardly grey and uninspiring. We were punching well above our weight by appointing him and look at the great end result. We need this attitude again, it doesn't matter what league the manager comes from, its a track record of success that matters.Quote from: Chutney on November 12, 2015, 08:11:50 AMIf my understanding is correct (no guarantee there thats for sure), it may be an uninspiring list but it may give us the best chance. Think back to Roy how many on ere said Christ no, he was as some still saying gray and boring, but he kept us up when all looked lost.Quote from: westcliff white on November 12, 2015, 07:56:40 AMThis would severely limit our options to a hand full of unexciting candidates.Quote from: Holders on November 12, 2015, 07:52:28 AMI took it as experience of the leagues we are in.Quote from: westcliff white on November 12, 2015, 07:47:48 AM
Rigg mentioned experience surely this would not include this gentleman from France?
I got the impression he was contrasting with Mr Symons who did not have first-team experience, nor of promotions.
I look at making the playoffs in the same light as staying up back then, its hard, maybe improbable but not impossible with the right man, grey and uninspiring it maybe but Roy was the right man, not saying it will happen / work this time though
Quote from: TheManOnTheBus on November 12, 2015, 11:09:26 AM
Track record of success? I know: Felix Magath! :028:
Quote from: ..FOF.. on November 12, 2015, 01:39:56 AM
A major coup would be someone who have some experience actually taking a team from Championship to the Premier League.
Quote from: os5889 mkII on November 12, 2015, 11:47:34 AMOut of the Candidates so far, the best appear to be Jokanovic, Gourvennec and Montella
Would certainly be happy if Jokanovic got the job. He was very impressive at Watford.
Quote from: nose on November 12, 2015, 10:37:36 AM
One thought that keeps recurring.
It is easy to spot the wrong candidate... or wrong man when appointed such as branfoot jol and magath..branfoot and jol in particular were wrong appointments, I said so at the time, and they more than exceeded my expectations of being hopeless.
What is harder is to spot the right man prior to engaging them. unlike other businesses, successis measured by promotion or at least being in contention. If in the prem, staying there and being competitive for most teams other than the elite few.
I do not know this frenchman as such but was aware of the small french team that have risen. could he do the same here? who knows. Is h worth a look and a discussion, absolutely. Tigs was off our radar until he turned up. macdonald was an unknown and to this day that football was the best i have seen at football with the same squad that was previously failing.
This one and JFH must surely be on the list of people to consider if they are available and willing.
Quote from: Holders on November 12, 2015, 11:50:50 AMQuote from: nose on November 12, 2015, 10:37:36 AM
One thought that keeps recurring.
It is easy to spot the wrong candidate... or wrong man when appointed such as branfoot jol and magath..branfoot and jol in particular were wrong appointments, I said so at the time, and they more than exceeded my expectations of being hopeless.
What is harder is to spot the right man prior to engaging them. unlike other businesses, successis measured by promotion or at least being in contention. If in the prem, staying there and being competitive for most teams other than the elite few.
I do not know this frenchman as such but was aware of the small french team that have risen. could he do the same here? who knows. Is h worth a look and a discussion, absolutely. Tigs was off our radar until he turned up. macdonald was an unknown and to this day that football was the best i have seen at football with the same squad that was previously failing.
This one and JFH must surely be on the list of people to consider if they are available and willing.
Spot on. I'd never heard of this Frenchman till yesterday but he looks interesting as does the Serbian Jankovic(sp?) - but then he does have a record in the UK. I'd rather be open minded than go for one of those readily-available with "championship experience". We need someone who will take us on - like Tigana.
Quote from: Airfix on November 12, 2015, 12:11:54 PMQuote from: Holders on November 12, 2015, 11:50:50 AMQuote from: nose on November 12, 2015, 10:37:36 AM
One thought that keeps recurring.
It is easy to spot the wrong candidate... or wrong man when appointed such as branfoot jol and magath..branfoot and jol in particular were wrong appointments, I said so at the time, and they more than exceeded my expectations of being hopeless.
What is harder is to spot the right man prior to engaging them. unlike other businesses, successis measured by promotion or at least being in contention. If in the prem, staying there and being competitive for most teams other than the elite few.
I do not know this frenchman as such but was aware of the small french team that have risen. could he do the same here? who knows. Is h worth a look and a discussion, absolutely. Tigs was off our radar until he turned up. macdonald was an unknown and to this day that football was the best i have seen at football with the same squad that was previously failing.
This one and JFH must surely be on the list of people to consider if they are available and willing.
Spot on. I'd never heard of this Frenchman till yesterday but he looks interesting as does the Serbian Jankovic(sp?) - but then he does have a record in the UK. I'd rather be open minded than go for one of those readily-available with "championship experience". We need someone who will take us on - like Tigana.
I hope you meant Jokanovic. Jankovic has championship experience but it's in tennis, not football!
Quote from: Holders on November 12, 2015, 12:18:22 PMQuote from: Airfix on November 12, 2015, 12:11:54 PMQuote from: Holders on November 12, 2015, 11:50:50 AMQuote from: nose on November 12, 2015, 10:37:36 AM
One thought that keeps recurring.
It is easy to spot the wrong candidate... or wrong man when appointed such as branfoot jol and magath..branfoot and jol in particular were wrong appointments, I said so at the time, and they more than exceeded my expectations of being hopeless.
What is harder is to spot the right man prior to engaging them. unlike other businesses, successis measured by promotion or at least being in contention. If in the prem, staying there and being competitive for most teams other than the elite few.
I do not know this frenchman as such but was aware of the small french team that have risen. could he do the same here? who knows. Is h worth a look and a discussion, absolutely. Tigs was off our radar until he turned up. macdonald was an unknown and to this day that football was the best i have seen at football with the same squad that was previously failing.
This one and JFH must surely be on the list of people to consider if they are available and willing.
Spot on. I'd never heard of this Frenchman till yesterday but he looks interesting as does the Serbian Jankovic(sp?) - but then he does have a record in the UK. I'd rather be open minded than go for one of those readily-available with "championship experience". We need someone who will take us on - like Tigana.
I hope you meant Jokanovic. Jankovic has championship experience but it's in tennis, not football!
Freudian slip!!
Quote from: westcliff white on November 12, 2015, 01:54:05 PM
Latest from Sky Sports
13:49
FULHAM MANAGER LATEST
Sky Sports News HQ understands that the shortlist for the next Fulham head coach's job has five names on it and reads as follows:
Paul Lambert, Nigel Pearson, the former Watford manager, Slavisa Jokanovic, Birmingham City manager Gary Rowett and Mark Warburton, presently manager at Rangers.
It's our understanding Fulham are looking for a head coach with proven track record in the Championship.
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on November 12, 2015, 03:10:15 PMQuote from: westcliff white on November 12, 2015, 01:54:05 PM
Latest from Sky Sports
13:49
FULHAM MANAGER LATEST
Sky Sports News HQ understands that the shortlist for the next Fulham head coach's job has five names on it and reads as follows:
Paul Lambert, Nigel Pearson, the former Watford manager, Slavisa Jokanovic, Birmingham City manager Gary Rowett and Mark Warburton, presently manager at Rangers.
It's our understanding Fulham are looking for a head coach with proven track record in the Championship.
Another 'understands' report.
Would be disappointed if it is Pearson. Not sure if it is realistic to lure Warburton away from Rangers or even Rowett from Birmingham although they have financial problems. Lambert a safe pair of hands. Jokanovic is the most exciting.along with Warburton.
Playing safe for the short term goal of getting in the top six rather than going for a manager for the medium to long term?
Quote from: @jolslover on November 11, 2015, 10:35:49 PM
Would like Jokanovic, Would be happy with him. 5 man shortlist goes something like
Garcia, Jokanovic, Moyes (Unrealistic), Di Matteo, Laudrup
Quote from: alexmur on November 12, 2015, 05:17:10 PM
please be moyes
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Quote from: alexmur on November 12, 2015, 05:17:10 PMHas Moyes worked in The Championship ?
please be moyes
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Quote from: filham on November 12, 2015, 05:28:30 PMprestonQuote from: alexmur on November 12, 2015, 05:17:10 PMHas Moyes worked in The Championship ?
please be moyes
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Quote from: YankeeJim on November 12, 2015, 05:26:32 PMit's nice to know we are in the know
As you can see by my avatar, I'm connected. No decision has been made except to exclude Felix & Jol. (Thank God)
Quote from: VicHalomsLovechild on November 12, 2015, 04:20:01 PM
I allegedly saw Susan George in London yesterday. She has to be a rank outsider though, she knows nothing about football.
Anybody else allegedly seen anyone in London lately?
Quote from: MikeW on November 12, 2015, 05:55:48 PMI have convinced myself it will be moyes that anyone else will just be a disappointment
Think Keegan, Tigana, Hodgson - we pushed the boat out and got the results. Go for Moyes
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on November 12, 2015, 03:10:15 PMQuote from: westcliff white on November 12, 2015, 01:54:05 PM
Latest from Sky Sports
13:49
FULHAM MANAGER LATEST
Sky Sports News HQ understands that the shortlist for the next Fulham head coach's job has five names on it and reads as follows:
Paul Lambert, Nigel Pearson, the former Watford manager, Slavisa Jokanovic, Birmingham City manager Gary Rowett and Mark Warburton, presently manager at Rangers.
It's our understanding Fulham are looking for a head coach with proven track record in the Championship.
Another 'understands' report.
Would be disappointed if it is Pearson. Not sure if it is realistic to lure Warburton away from Rangers or even Rowett from Birmingham although they have financial problems. Lambert a safe pair of hands. Jokanovic is the most exciting.along with Warburton.
Playing safe for the short term goal of getting in the top six rather than going for a manager for the medium to long term?
Quote from: RaySmith on November 12, 2015, 09:44:38 PMI like to think with the squad we have and the performances we have put in however inconsistent alot of hopeful managers/coach's would jump at the chance at Fulham. being a London club is also huge pull to sign players too plus we have cash, and money talks
Would Moyes not expect to become manager of a Prem team?
A good appointment if we could get him, but sadly doubt it.
Quote from: Blanco on November 12, 2015, 09:32:48 PM
Anyone but Curbishley
Quote from: RaySmith on November 12, 2015, 09:44:38 PM
Would Moyes not expect to become manager of a Prem team?
A good appointment if we could get him, but sadly doubt it.
Quote from: YankeeJim on November 12, 2015, 10:11:04 PMnow that's the kind of positivity we need around hereQuote from: RaySmith on November 12, 2015, 09:44:38 PM
Would Moyes not expect to become manager of a Prem team?
A good appointment if we could get him, but sadly doubt it.
If he comes to FFC he will be managing in the Prem next season.
Quote from: filham on November 12, 2015, 10:25:54 PM
The idea of Moyes coming to Fulham as head coach is a pipe dream, he will be looking for a proper managers position in the premiership.
If , however ,somehow , Rigsby could persuade him to come then Rigsby's standing would go sky high and I would start calling him Mr Rigg.
Quote from: Wimbledon_White on November 12, 2015, 11:08:17 PMway to stay positive Wimbledon keep the faith and to coin a frase from the cottage 'believe'
Sorry but why on earth would you title your thread as "keep calm its going to be Moyse"???
This thread is pure speculation like everything other. Pathetic.
Quote from: filham on November 12, 2015, 10:25:54 PMI'd call him sir rigg
The idea of Moyes coming to Fulham as head coach is a pipe dream, he will be looking for a proper managers position in the premiership.
If , however ,somehow , Rigsby could persuade him to come then Rigsby's standing would go sky high and I would start calling him Mr Rigg.
Quote from: Blanco on November 12, 2015, 09:32:48 PM
Anyone but Curbishley
Quote from: alexmur on November 12, 2015, 11:46:27 PM
Fulham and moyes is a match made in heaven
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Quote from: General on November 12, 2015, 11:40:48 PMQuote from: Blanco on November 12, 2015, 09:32:48 PM
Anyone but Curbishley
Anyone who hasn't just started their managerial career in the championship with no experience of getting out of it, or managing at a higher level.
Gary Rowett, Mark Warburton, Paul Lambert, Jovanovic and the other guy are NOT up to standard for what we should be looking for.
Quote from: Asotosyios on November 13, 2015, 12:16:07 AMdefinitely autumnQuote from: alexmur on November 12, 2015, 11:46:27 PM
Fulham and moyes is a match made in heaven
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A midsummer night's dream....or autumn night's.
Quote from: alexmur on November 12, 2015, 06:09:05 PMQuote from: MikeW on November 12, 2015, 05:55:48 PMI have convinced myself it will be moyes that anyone else will just be a disappointment
Think Keegan, Tigana, Hodgson - we pushed the boat out and got the results. Go for Moyes
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Quote from: Buffalo76 on November 13, 2015, 11:18:50 AM
Pearce or McLeish - please god NOOOOOOOOOOO.
Quote from: fulhamben on November 13, 2015, 12:27:41 PM
from barra boy on tiff
3 interviews lined up (1 has already taken place). Pearson, Lambert and Jokavonivic. Also big announcement coming in next few weeks. COYW! -- Barra Boy
Quote from: Neil D on November 13, 2015, 12:37:30 PMmoyes has flopped big time in his last two mangerial jobs, he didnt last a season with either, so id imagine he will pick his next job very carefully as a third strike and it could be his last. we have seen time and time again that even the most expensive squads assembled in the championship doesnt guarantee promotion and would be a huge gamble for him.
Let's assume that salary is not an issue and FFC's training facilities at Motspur Park stand up to scrutiny (and they do), why wouldn't a self-respecting 'top' manager with a Premiership pedigree (say, Moyes, for example) want to come to Fulham? I would see it as a challenge i.e. 'here is a mid-table Championship side and I will turn it into a top eight Premiership team in three years or whatever. That's how good I am.' Instead, these so-called 'top' managers only want to manage teams which are already successful (established, secure Premiership). Why are they afraid of a challenge to test their mettle? To show what they can achieve? Sod 'em.
Quote from: EJL on November 13, 2015, 02:06:24 PM
This is Tony Gale's reasoning for suggesting Curbishley gets the job: "This is the type of guy you need. He has been out of the game a while, in terms of being a manager, but he knows people." Outstanding, Tony. He knows people. Let's write up the contract now, eh?
Quote from: Burt on November 13, 2015, 02:40:38 PMIf only the league table was based on how many people we all know.Quote from: EJL on November 13, 2015, 02:06:24 PM
This is Tony Gale's reasoning for suggesting Curbishley gets the job: "This is the type of guy you need. He has been out of the game a while, in terms of being a manager, but he knows people." Outstanding, Tony. He knows people. Let's write up the contract now, eh?
I know people too. Can I throw my hat in the ring?
Quote from: brightster on November 13, 2015, 02:43:00 PM
Just had an interesting conversation with a colleague at work, he is a Nottingham Forrest supporter and has a good friend of Steve Blatherwick (old school mate and played senior footie together) who is now a scout for the lower league teams, and he reckons that JFH has a big future in the game and is awaiting the right club in the Championship to progress his carrear, he is liked by the players, the board at the clubs he's been at and is not a big head.
Reading posts about everyone that is being touted around, I think he sounds about right for us, certainly wouldn't want Paerson.
I know I will get loads of stick about the "the source" but thought I would share it anyway.
My colleague is meeting up with Steve over the weekend and has promised to ask him about JFL.
Might be nothing but hey ho!
Quote from: Burt on November 13, 2015, 04:42:26 PM
Looking at the latest on skybet:
JFH 7/4
Pearson 2/1
Curbs 7/1
Redknapp and Jokanovic both on 10/1
Moyes 14/1
Lambert 16/1
Warburton and Garcia both on 20/1
Rowett and Rodgers both on 22/1
Bruce, diMatteo, Laudrup, McLeish, Carver, McCarthy, Murphy and Rosler all at 25/1
A whole bundle of people on 33/1, including a certain Shefki Kuqi!!
Quote from: Burt on November 13, 2015, 02:40:38 PMQuote from: EJL on November 13, 2015, 02:06:24 PM
This is Tony Gale's reasoning for suggesting Curbishley gets the job: "This is the type of guy you need. He has been out of the game a while, in terms of being a manager, but he knows people." Outstanding, Tony. He knows people. Let's write up the contract now, eh?
I know people too. Can I throw my hat in the ring?
Quote from: westcliff white on November 13, 2015, 10:12:32 PM
Bruse was 2/1 on at one stage, JFH 6/5 on at siome stage as well.
Pearson would be dreadful, in fact would consider not going to games for a long while, he has no respect for fans always mouthing off at them, not jus the vile vitriol that got reported either,. Media wise he would also be a disaster, we can do ten times better than him
Quote from: westcliff white on November 13, 2015, 10:12:32 PM
Bruse was 2/1 on at one stage, JFH 6/5 on at siome stage as well.
Pearson would be dreadful, in fact would consider not going to games for a long while, he has no respect for fans always mouthing off at them, not jus the vile vitriol that got reported either,. Media wise he would also be a disaster, we can do ten times better than him
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on November 13, 2015, 10:37:05 PMWould take curbs over that caveman, far better record than PearsonQuote from: westcliff white on November 13, 2015, 10:12:32 PM
Bruse was 2/1 on at one stage, JFH 6/5 on at siome stage as well.
Pearson would be dreadful, in fact would consider not going to games for a long while, he has no respect for fans always mouthing off at them, not jus the vile vitriol that got reported either,. Media wise he would also be a disaster, we can do ten times better than him
What do you want a cuddly manager or a winning team??
Quote from: J.Perkins on November 13, 2015, 10:46:53 PMQuote from: westcliff white on November 13, 2015, 10:12:32 PM
Bruse was 2/1 on at one stage, JFH 6/5 on at siome stage as well.
Pearson would be dreadful, in fact would consider not going to games for a long while, he has no respect for fans always mouthing off at them, not jus the vile vitriol that got reported either,. Media wise he would also be a disaster, we can do ten times better than him
All I care about is what I see on the pitch. Couldn't care less really about anything else.
Quote from: J.Perkins on November 13, 2015, 10:46:53 PMI care about what the clubs history stands for, Pearson has no respect for fans or media that's a disgrace for me, we are the ones that countQuote from: westcliff white on November 13, 2015, 10:12:32 PM
Bruse was 2/1 on at one stage, JFH 6/5 on at siome stage as well.
Pearson would be dreadful, in fact would consider not going to games for a long while, he has no respect for fans always mouthing off at them, not jus the vile vitriol that got reported either,. Media wise he would also be a disaster, we can do ten times better than him
All I care about is what I see on the pitch. Couldn't care less really about anything else.
Quote from: westcliff white on November 13, 2015, 10:53:31 PM
Hillingdon mind the language, people of all ages on here
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on November 13, 2015, 10:56:46 PMNot the point, it's a forum for everyone. But thanks for the apologyQuote from: westcliff white on November 13, 2015, 10:53:31 PM
Hillingdon mind the language, people of all ages on here
Dear oh dear I do apologise but I'm sure they've all heard far worse
Quote from: FFCpmd on November 13, 2015, 10:58:51 PM
Oddschecker odds on next qpr manager = Pearson odds-on favourite.....
Quote from: Burt on November 13, 2015, 04:42:26 PM
Looking at the latest on skybet:
JFH 7/4
Pearson 2/1
Curbs 7/1
Redknapp and Jokanovic both on 10/1
Moyes 14/1
Lambert 16/1
Warburton and Garcia both on 20/1
Rowett and Rodgers both on 22/1
Bruce, diMatteo, Laudrup, McLeish, Carver, McCarthy, Murphy and Rosler all at 25/1
A whole bundle of people on 33/1, including a certain Shefki Kuqi!!
QuoteAs far as attacking ideas went, he was either unable to communicate them, or he just didn't have any.
Quotehe took offence at strange things – suddenly dropping players without offering any explanation. Midfielder David Zurutuza, loved by the crowd, was dropped after a pre-season friendly at Zaragoza for addressing Moyes as 'David'.
Quote from: westcliff white on November 13, 2015, 10:51:41 PMI wouldn'tQuote from: Steven Ageroad on November 13, 2015, 10:37:05 PMWould take curbs over that caveman, far better record than PearsonQuote from: westcliff white on November 13, 2015, 10:12:32 PM
Bruse was 2/1 on at one stage, JFH 6/5 on at siome stage as well.
Pearson would be dreadful, in fact would consider not going to games for a long while, he has no respect for fans always mouthing off at them, not jus the vile vitriol that got reported either,. Media wise he would also be a disaster, we can do ten times better than him
What do you want a cuddly manager or a winning team??
Quote from: westcliff white on November 13, 2015, 10:52:56 PMQuote from: J.Perkins on November 13, 2015, 10:46:53 PMI care about what the clubs history stands for, Pearson has no respect for fans or media that's a disgrace for me, we are the ones that countQuote from: westcliff white on November 13, 2015, 10:12:32 PM
Bruse was 2/1 on at one stage, JFH 6/5 on at siome stage as well.
Pearson would be dreadful, in fact would consider not going to games for a long while, he has no respect for fans always mouthing off at them, not jus the vile vitriol that got reported either,. Media wise he would also be a disaster, we can do ten times better than him
All I care about is what I see on the pitch. Couldn't care less really about anything else.
Quote from: J.Perkins on November 13, 2015, 10:46:53 PMQuote from: westcliff white on November 13, 2015, 10:12:32 PM
Bruse was 2/1 on at one stage, JFH 6/5 on at siome stage as well.
Pearson would be dreadful, in fact would consider not going to games for a long while, he has no respect for fans always mouthing off at them, not jus the vile vitriol that got reported either,. Media wise he would also be a disaster, we can do ten times better than him
All I care about is what I see on the pitch. Couldn't care less really about anything else.
Quote from: Fulhamight on November 14, 2015, 10:46:03 AMI kind of agree with you. I think getting us promotion and competing in the premiership are 2 very different jobs and very hard to get the right manager/coach to do both. I maybe incredible optimistic but I think if we get moyes he could do both. I just hope we find out soon.
Football Managers are now, sadly, transitory beings, largely due to the fans expectations. Mr Pearson, as such,would be an admirable "needs must" short term manager. Once the job is complete, it's on.on,on to the next one ! If your'e a smart :bump:club, like Leicester you hire your Ranieri, or if you're Norwich, get Houghton to organise your defence and then hire again for the Premier. Or am I being cynical ?
Quote from: Buffalo76 on November 07, 2015, 04:23:20 PMHe looks like Vinnie jones.. Does he behave like him too??!!
Pearson. No- nonsense type of manager.
Quote from: FPT on November 14, 2015, 11:02:20 AM[/b][/color]
The Moyes story doesn't surprise me. He's a controlling weirdo, who highly relies on a long ball from the ball and aimless crosses into the box. He has no tactics, no ideas beyond that. As well as that, at Everton he was the 4th highest paid manager in the division and he earned more than any of his players. Roberto Martinez has taken the structure of Everton and made them a much more entertaining outfit with similar results. We can do better than David Moyes.
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on November 14, 2015, 11:28:23 AM
wants the Fulham job.......thinking about it I can think of worse people, but not many
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on November 14, 2015, 11:28:23 AM
wants the Fulham job.......thinking about it I can think of worse people, but not many
Quote from: RaySmith on November 14, 2015, 10:11:31 AM
As long as the manager gets on all right with the players - that they at least respect him - I'm not that bothered about his image. After all, Kit was criticised here for being too nice.
For me, results are the main thing. Fans aren't usually content with pretty football if the results aren't there.
Quote from: rusty shackleford on November 14, 2015, 11:47:18 AMso we are going to get a manager who has flopped big time in his last 3 jobs as opposed to just the last 2 jobs that moyes has flopped in. Moyes done a great job at Everton but has been terrible since he left. He is by no means a messiah or guaranteed to do a good job where ever he turns up next.
Anybody who says "we can do better than David Moyes" is gonna be severely disappointed.
Quote from: Ichabod Magoo on November 13, 2015, 11:37:00 PMInteresting article - thanks. It does suggest that those who go abroad as players or managers from this country often do so with an inability and unwillingness to embrace the culture and, above all, the language of their hosts. It is a recipe for failure. I am reminded of Ian Rush who had a full year's notice of his transfer to Juventus. During this time he took no Italian lessons (much to Juventus' displeasure) and, inevitably, failed professionally and socially.
http://sport360.com/article/european/45126/phil-ball-where-did-it-all-go-wrong-david-moyes-real-sociedad (http://sport360.com/article/european/45126/phil-ball-where-did-it-all-go-wrong-david-moyes-real-sociedad)
Quote from: Max Headroom on November 14, 2015, 11:50:41 AM
Really? He's not a bad manager. Treated badly by qpr. I want Pearson (at least today) not warnock, but please.....
Quote from: alexmur on November 14, 2015, 12:16:43 PMI'm still hoping for vincello
it's Pearson or moyes I think now.
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Quote from: alexmur on November 14, 2015, 12:16:43 PM
it's Pearson or moyes I think now.
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Quote from: fulhamben on November 14, 2015, 12:19:57 PMAnd he would be...?
I'm still hoping for vincello
Quote from: Neil D on November 14, 2015, 12:36:46 PMHe would be an auto corrected first name of montellaQuote from: fulhamben on November 14, 2015, 12:19:57 PMAnd he would be...?
I'm still hoping for vincello
Quote from: fulhamben on November 14, 2015, 11:53:49 AMQuote from: rusty shackleford on November 14, 2015, 11:47:18 AMso we are going to get a manager who has flopped big time in his last 3 jobs as opposed to just the last 2 jobs that moyes has flopped in. Moyes done a great job at Everton but has been terrible since he left. He is by no means a messiah or guaranteed to do a good job where ever he turns up next.
Anybody who says "we can do better than David Moyes" is gonna be severely disappointed.
Quote from: Skatzoffc on November 14, 2015, 12:41:06 PMa very naughty boy who can't even hold down a job for as long as kit did. Maybe he is just one of those managers that could only really do it at that one clubQuote from: fulhamben on November 14, 2015, 11:53:49 AMQuote from: rusty shackleford on November 14, 2015, 11:47:18 AMso we are going to get a manager who has flopped big time in his last 3 jobs as opposed to just the last 2 jobs that moyes has flopped in. Moyes done a great job at Everton but has been terrible since he left. He is by no means a messiah or guaranteed to do a good job where ever he turns up next.
Anybody who says "we can do better than David Moyes" is gonna be severely disappointed.
He's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy.....
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Quote from: rusty shackleford on November 14, 2015, 11:47:18 AM
Anybody who says "we can do better than David Moyes" is gonna be severely disappointed.
Quote from: fulhamben on November 14, 2015, 12:38:44 PMIn that case, sorry to disappoint you but he is now the manager of Sampdoria (as of yesterday).Quote from: Neil D on November 14, 2015, 12:36:46 PMHe would be an auto corrected first name of montellaQuote from: fulhamben on November 14, 2015, 12:19:57 PMAnd he would be...?
I'm still hoping for vincello
Quote from: Neil D on November 14, 2015, 01:13:29 PMthen Epsomraver owes me some biblical porn of epic proportionsQuote from: fulhamben on November 14, 2015, 12:38:44 PMIn that case, sorry to disappoint you but he is now the manager of Sampdoria (as of yesterday).Quote from: Neil D on November 14, 2015, 12:36:46 PMHe would be an auto corrected first name of montellaQuote from: fulhamben on November 14, 2015, 12:19:57 PMAnd he would be...?
I'm still hoping for vincello
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on November 14, 2015, 01:34:57 PMBlackburn's fans, like those of every other club, are, at best, an inconvenience to be tolerated and will be the last to know.
Couldn't see anything on Blackburn's site to confirm this
Quote from: westcliff white on November 14, 2015, 02:01:02 PMGazzetta dello Sport seems certain:
Officially Montella isn't Sampdoria manager as yet, no news on their website at all
Quote from: epsomraver on November 14, 2015, 11:59:34 AM:plus one:Quote from: Max Headroom on November 14, 2015, 11:50:41 AM
Really? He's not a bad manager. Treated badly by qpr. I want Pearson (at least today) not warnock, but please.....
Warnock was heard to tell a player by the dugout at Fulham to go out and break a players leg, do we really want someone like him? Walked out of Palace as soon as £ notes rustled? not for me that would be the end if Colin was appointed, hope this is just lazy journo.
Quote from: westcliff white on November 14, 2015, 01:13:06 PMhttp://www.fulham.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=421769
where is it reported he has taken the job? last I heard he was in London talking to QPR
Quote from: JHaynes Paperboy on November 14, 2015, 02:19:30 PMThat's how I feel about Pearson too, hence my comment I would prefer Warnock to PearsonQuote from: epsomraver on November 14, 2015, 11:59:34 AM:plus one:Quote from: Max Headroom on November 14, 2015, 11:50:41 AM
Really? He's not a bad manager. Treated badly by qpr. I want Pearson (at least today) not warnock, but please.....
Warnock was heard to tell a player by the dugout at Fulham to go out and break a players leg, do we really want someone like him? Walked out of Palace as soon as £ notes rustled? not for me that would be the end if Colin was appointed, hope this is just lazy journo.
Nasty piece of work, you won't see me at the the Cottage if he gets the job!
Quote from: alexmur on November 14, 2015, 02:26:45 PMDoesn't say he has accepted says set too, however yesterday Lambert was in London talking to QPR and reports say he is also set for talks with usQuote from: westcliff white on November 14, 2015, 01:13:06 PMhttp://www.fulham.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=421769 (http://www.fulham.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=421769)
where is it reported he has taken the job? last I heard he was in London talking to QPR
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Quote from: Neil D on November 14, 2015, 02:08:41 PMThey have been saying this since he lift Fiorentina, I expect it to happen but it hasn't yet. I am not sure why but he has been sacked form Fiorentina but they still retain his contract so compensation needs ot be paid to them it seems, it is meant to be around 5 million eurosQuote from: westcliff white on November 14, 2015, 02:01:02 PMGazzetta dello Sport seems certain:
Officially Montella isn't Sampdoria manager as yet, no news on their website at all
http://www.gazzetta.it/Calcio/Serie-A/Sampdoria/14-11-2015/montella-ritorno-genova-citta-conquistata-coi-gol-caccia-gioco-130920967342.shtml (http://www.gazzetta.it/Calcio/Serie-A/Sampdoria/14-11-2015/montella-ritorno-genova-citta-conquistata-coi-gol-caccia-gioco-130920967342.shtml)
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on November 14, 2015, 01:36:06 PM
Rigg's lack of decisiveness in the summer has cost us big time.
Quote from: westcliff white on November 14, 2015, 02:39:27 PMSKy reporting they are set to agree a 2 million euro payment to FiorentinaQuote from: Neil D on November 14, 2015, 02:08:41 PMThey have been saying this since he lift Fiorentina, I expect it to happen but it hasn't yet. I am not sure why but he has been sacked form Fiorentina but they still retain his contract so compensation needs ot be paid to them it seems, it is meant to be around 5 million eurosQuote from: westcliff white on November 14, 2015, 02:01:02 PMGazzetta dello Sport seems certain:
Officially Montella isn't Sampdoria manager as yet, no news on their website at all
http://www.gazzetta.it/Calcio/Serie-A/Sampdoria/14-11-2015/montella-ritorno-genova-citta-conquistata-coi-gol-caccia-gioco-130920967342.shtml (http://www.gazzetta.it/Calcio/Serie-A/Sampdoria/14-11-2015/montella-ritorno-genova-citta-conquistata-coi-gol-caccia-gioco-130920967342.shtml)
Quote from: Loz on November 14, 2015, 02:54:38 PMHave to say I am with you on this. Kit Symons was uninspiring and did not demand much respect from his players wheras Pearson's players thought he was great; ask any of them how it felt to win promotion! He sometimes bridled at the press for pushing him over the obvious issue of the poor points haul initially in the Prem. Pearson kept saying we play the way we play and it wlll come good, the press would argue and he occasionally just let his frustration show.
Don't understand how 'winning in the right way' is particularly relevant here. Pearson's Leicester were generally open, attacking and ambitious for a team in the lower reaches of the Prem. I don't think there's much evidence to accuse Pearson's teams of dirty play either.
The issue is that Pearson occasionally comes across as a bit of a hot-head, but he's not what I'd call a nasty piece of work because he's always apologised for stupid things he's done and hopefully they won't happen again.
Given that our current team have so much potential but so rarely show it, I think being yelled at by someone who's a bit of a nut job but knows his onions about football could do them some good.
Quote from: Neil D on November 14, 2015, 01:59:50 PMQuote from: H4usuallysitting on November 14, 2015, 01:34:57 PMBlackburn's fans, like those of every other club, are, at best, an inconvenience to be tolerated and will be the last to know.
Couldn't see anything on Blackburn's site to confirm this
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on November 14, 2015, 04:27:24 PMThat's what I understood you were referring to.Quote from: Neil D on November 14, 2015, 01:59:50 PMQuote from: H4usuallysitting on November 14, 2015, 01:34:57 PMBlackburn's fans, like those of every other club, are, at best, an inconvenience to be tolerated and will be the last to know.
Couldn't see anything on Blackburn's site to confirm this
I was talking about Blackburn Footie Clubs official site
Quote from: Tonywa on November 14, 2015, 05:41:04 PMlisting to him in press conference would be painful
If Lambert is out of the running then I'd like Jokanovic. Well I'd like Moyes, but I think that's most unlikely. One of the worst things about Rogers would be having to listen to all that crap he talks!
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on November 14, 2015, 06:01:18 PM
Don't be surprised if Harry Redknapp is selected with Neil Warnock as his assistant.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on November 14, 2015, 05:55:40 PM
I wouldn't want Moyes if he came for free, he will upset everyone he doesn't like, an unpleasant man with a massive attitude, believe me.
Quote from: bog on November 14, 2015, 02:50:06 PM
I have a friend (yes I do) and he is a ref at quite a high standard and Warnock is widely regarded as being the vilest on the line. Anyway he pencils in his eyebrows.
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Thank you and good night
Quote from: Ordar on November 15, 2015, 01:24:55 AMmy thoughts exactly
I personally would put Pearson as my second choice after Moyes. That isn't to put down Pearson at all and I would be happy was he appointed. None of the anti Pearson rhetoric on this thread has any bearing on reality.
I want to go up this year
Quote from: TrexFFC on November 15, 2015, 02:33:42 AMwho said that? I said I wouldn't go, that doesn't mean I do not support them. I had a season ticket for 3 years and didn't go as worked abroad, still bought the ticket though, as I will every season whether I go or not.
Stop supporting the club because of a managerial appointment you hate?
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on November 14, 2015, 10:14:40 PMQuote from: Fulham76 on November 14, 2015, 06:36:45 PMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on November 14, 2015, 06:01:18 PM
Don't be surprised if Harry Redknapp is selected with Neil Warnock as his assistant.
I just had a big shiver after reading that..!! Probably the worst combination I could think of!
I can think of a much worse pair, Dr Jekyll & Mr Hyde.
Quote from: MJG on November 15, 2015, 09:15:54 AM
Well looks like those who are results first, values second are the winners here. Maybe should have gone for Pulis just to make some even happier.
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Quote from: alexmur on November 15, 2015, 07:29:07 AMWas talking to a friend who is a hoop (yes I know) and he said most of them think very highly of Warnock. Many would be happy with him staying the rest of the season. They don't see him as the long term solution, but would take him until a permanent replacement is found.
why would we take someone qpr don't want
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Quote from: FPT on November 15, 2015, 12:33:52 AM
Pros? I'm not sure there are any, I've seen many a Leicester supporter say that their form and subsequent escape covered the cracks there all season.
Quote from: The Moose on November 15, 2015, 11:13:56 AMIn all honesty I would forsake some of the pretty football we have seen in the last two or three years, under a succession of manager, for some results that put us in a promotion chase.
I'd hate to have MON as manager. His teams play dour stuff. Just think how awful Sunderland were.
Quote from: filham on November 15, 2015, 10:47:17 AMstill under contract with ireland and himself and Roy have their eyes on world Cup qualifiers
The Republic are tomorrow involved in the second leg play off for a place in the Euro finals and they only have to draw 0-0 or win to qualify in which case Martin O'Neill will have a busy few months ahead of him. However should Ireland suffer an unexpected defeat O'Neill may just be open to other offers.
Is it possible that we are holding off in appointing our new coach until after the Republic match tomorrow night.
No doubt in my book that Martin O'Neill would be the best available choice for us if we could get him.
Quote from: Bronaldinho on November 15, 2015, 10:27:37 AMThat sums it up 100%
A damn good coach.
Won't take any crap and can fire up a dressing room, something we need.
Not afraid to say it like it is.
Will be a great capture for the club, terrific record.
Quote from: Lighthouse on November 15, 2015, 10:58:50 AMYou are most probably right but there really is nothing to say that any of the assumed candidates mentioned on this board are really under consideration , we are all just clutching at straws. At least on Monday night when the Republic qualify for the Euros I will know it is time to let go of this particular straw.
He will not want to walk straight into another job if they lose anyway. So although I have heard this theory before I am not convinced by it.
Quote from: f321ffc on November 15, 2015, 01:49:07 PMHave to agree
Well worth watching, i`m going to nail my colours to the mast and say i hope its him. 049:gif
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26943611 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/26943611)
Quote from: bog on November 15, 2015, 11:49:03 AM
No thanks.
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Quote from: J on November 15, 2015, 01:55:29 PM
This sums up the good pretty well - direct from players at Leicester: http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/may/17/sunderland-leicester-city-nigel-pearson-premier-league-match-report (http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/may/17/sunderland-leicester-city-nigel-pearson-premier-league-match-report)
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on November 14, 2015, 10:14:40 PMSo can I, Kit Symons and Alan Curbishley!!Quote from: Fulham76 on November 14, 2015, 06:36:45 PMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on November 14, 2015, 06:01:18 PM
Don't be surprised if Harry Redknapp is selected with Neil Warnock as his assistant.
I just had a big shiver after reading that..!! Probably the worst combination I could think of!
I can think of a much worse pair, Dr Jekyll & Mr Hyde.
Quote from: Chutney on November 15, 2015, 06:58:53 PMnot trying to be smart but in what way? I think he might be the right man for the job so just interested in your opinion
Pearson is a vile man and a bully.
Quote from: Chutney on November 15, 2015, 06:58:53 PMI have never met the fella, but calling someone 'Vile' seems a little strong.
Pearson is a vile man and a bully.
Quote from: westcliff white on November 15, 2015, 09:18:16 PM
and the way Kahn is going through managers 5 in 19 months he won't be under pressure here?
Not sure how he will cope with being a head coach and not a manager
Quote from: westcliff white on November 15, 2015, 09:18:16 PM
and the way Kahn is going through managers 5 in 19 months he won't be under pressure here?
Not sure how he will cope with being a head coach and not a manager
Quote from: St Eve on November 15, 2015, 08:20:00 PMQuote from: Chutney on November 15, 2015, 06:58:53 PMnot trying to be smart but in what way? I think he might be the right man for the job so just interested in your opinion
Pearson is a vile man and a bully.
Quote from: west kowloon white on November 15, 2015, 11:03:02 PM
Would like to form a rational opinion- what did your mate say to provoke the death wish?Please be honest.
Quote from: fulham traveller on November 15, 2015, 10:50:55 PM
Bet fair have him favourite to go rangers, they are rarely wrong,
Quote from: fulham traveller on November 15, 2015, 10:50:55 PM
Bet fair have him favourite to go rangers, they are rarely wrong,
Quote from: @jolslover on November 15, 2015, 10:43:58 PMI'm warming to Nigel seems similar to Hodgson, doesn't suffer fools gladly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Es66JonaiTU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Es66JonaiTU)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aX09CTIShm8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aX09CTIShm8)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaQhHNUOdZ8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaQhHNUOdZ8)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grnhmWAFipk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grnhmWAFipk)
Just gonna leave these here
Quote from: Milo on November 16, 2015, 12:50:52 AM
Oh god it's a painful interview isn't it... That Pat Murphy one...
I'm not sure now... He does seem to fit the unique manager bill (we love that here, Felix!)... And certainly gets results... But how will the players take him...? Will we have a similar situation with him as we did with Felix where it's like a standoff against the team and players are getting dropped each time they speak out? Ugh...
Quote from: mikestrand on November 15, 2015, 11:47:09 PMQuote from: @jolslover on November 15, 2015, 10:43:58 PMI'm warming to Nigel seems similar to Hodgson, doesn't suffer fools gladly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Es66JonaiTU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Es66JonaiTU)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aX09CTIShm8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aX09CTIShm8)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaQhHNUOdZ8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaQhHNUOdZ8)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grnhmWAFipk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grnhmWAFipk)
Just gonna leave these here
Quote from: MarryMeWRoy on November 16, 2015, 03:02:20 AMQuote from: mikestrand on November 15, 2015, 11:47:09 PMQuote from: @jolslover on November 15, 2015, 10:43:58 PMI'm warming to Nigel seems similar to Hodgson, doesn't suffer fools gladly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Es66JonaiTU (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Es66JonaiTU)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aX09CTIShm8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aX09CTIShm8)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaQhHNUOdZ8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaQhHNUOdZ8)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grnhmWAFipk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grnhmWAFipk)
Just gonna leave these here
I really can't see 'Uncle Roy' behaving like that - or wrestling with QPR player with hands round neck - where's NP's dignity?
Quote from: Chutney on November 15, 2015, 11:12:24 PMSo your mate can call someone an offensive name, when that person responds its the other persons fault is it ? yes he should have ignored it but sometimes in the heat of the moment thats not always the case.Quote from: west kowloon white on November 15, 2015, 11:03:02 PM
Would like to form a rational opinion- what did your mate say to provoke the death wish?Please be honest.
He called him a "silly ****" (four letter word begins with a T, ends with a T and the middle letters are WA) over a substitution, which I'll admit is a bit strong but should of been ignored or taken in jest.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaQhHNUOdZ8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaQhHNUOdZ8) << is this the man you want in charge of our club? He regularly comes across as petty and a control freak/bully. For me, we are better than that.
Quote from: f321ffc on November 16, 2015, 06:43:31 AMQuote from: Chutney on November 15, 2015, 11:12:24 PMSo your mate can call someone an offensive name, when that person responds its the other persons fault is it ? yes he should have ignored it but sometimes in the heat of the moment thats not always the case.Quote from: west kowloon white on November 15, 2015, 11:03:02 PM
Would like to form a rational opinion- what did your mate say to provoke the death wish?Please be honest.
He called him a "silly ****" (four letter word begins with a T, ends with a T and the middle letters are WA) over a substitution, which I'll admit is a bit strong but should of been ignored or taken in jest.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaQhHNUOdZ8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaQhHNUOdZ8) << is this the man you want in charge of our club? He regularly comes across as petty and a control freak/bully. For me, we are better than that.
It was reported that Pearson also apologised to said fan , is that the true?
Quote from: AnotherVicHalomLoveChild on November 15, 2015, 02:11:05 PMagree
Only lunatics should apply for the FFC managers job?
Unless of course Moyes sees it as a great "stepping stone" opportunity, a chance to re-build & prove his worth all over again @ a similar club to Everton, you can see it clear as day
Worth him taking the gamble I'd say (assuming of course we have shown interest in him)
He has to be the stand out candidate
His arrival would cause a number of our better players to re consider their futures with us, to stay & give it a go as far as top 6, return to the Premiership, ground redevelopment etc
Time to act running out along with parachute payments
So much riding on this next appointment
Quote from: Chutney on November 16, 2015, 07:56:57 AMQuote from: f321ffc on November 16, 2015, 06:43:31 AMQuote from: Chutney on November 15, 2015, 11:12:24 PMSo your mate can call someone an offensive name, when that person responds its the other persons fault is it ? yes he should have ignored it but sometimes in the heat of the moment thats not always the case.Quote from: west kowloon white on November 15, 2015, 11:03:02 PM
Would like to form a rational opinion- what did your mate say to provoke the death wish?Please be honest.
He called him a "silly ****" (four letter word begins with a T, ends with a T and the middle letters are WA) over a substitution, which I'll admit is a bit strong but should of been ignored or taken in jest.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaQhHNUOdZ8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaQhHNUOdZ8) << is this the man you want in charge of our club? He regularly comes across as petty and a control freak/bully. For me, we are better than that.
It was reported that Pearson also apologised to said fan , is that the true?
He publicly refused to apologise despite having several opportunities to do so, its not the first time he's turned on his own fans.
Quote from: alexmur on November 16, 2015, 01:33:47 PMNo. He's been pretty average/bad everywhere he's been so far. You never know though, it could work... but I hoped the same for Symons.
so Lee Clarke has put him self up for the job, what do we think boys?
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Quote from: mkras99 on November 16, 2015, 02:02:32 PM
http://www.footballinsider247.com/exclusive/exclusive-nigel-pearson-to-be-interviewed-by-fulham-this-week (http://www.footballinsider247.com/exclusive/exclusive-nigel-pearson-to-be-interviewed-by-fulham-this-week)
Quote from: Lighthouse on November 16, 2015, 03:10:44 PM
Bit depressing to find the so called favourite hasn't even been interviewed yet. Frankly we are crossing over to the line of boring now.
Quote from: Riverside on November 16, 2015, 03:26:16 PMI seriously doubt it he won't leave ireland job till after world Cup qualifiersQuote from: Lighthouse on November 16, 2015, 03:10:44 PM
Bit depressing to find the so called favourite hasn't even been interviewed yet. Frankly we are crossing over to the line of boring now.
Or we are waiting for the Republics play off result / Martin O Neill ?
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Quote from: alexmur on November 16, 2015, 03:03:15 PMQuote from: mkras99 on November 16, 2015, 02:02:32 PM
http://www.footballinsider247.com/exclusive/exclusive-nigel-pearson-to-be-interviewed-by-fulham-this-week (http://www.footballinsider247.com/exclusive/exclusive-nigel-pearson-to-be-interviewed-by-fulham-this-week)
he is definitely my second choice behind moyes. he has done some pretty stupid stuff but the players seem to like him and really that's all that matters for me. still hoping for moyes till the bitter end.
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Quote from: mkras99 on November 16, 2015, 02:02:32 PM
http://www.footballinsider247.com/exclusive/exclusive-nigel-pearson-to-be-interviewed-by-fulham-this-week (http://www.footballinsider247.com/exclusive/exclusive-nigel-pearson-to-be-interviewed-by-fulham-this-week)
Quote from: alexmur on November 16, 2015, 03:28:18 PMI heard there was a break clause after the euros, the F AI can break if results not good enough and O'neil if he gets a club offer he wants to takeQuote from: Riverside on November 16, 2015, 03:26:16 PMI seriously doubt it he won't leave ireland job till after world Cup qualifiersQuote from: Lighthouse on November 16, 2015, 03:10:44 PM
Bit depressing to find the so called favourite hasn't even been interviewed yet. Frankly we are crossing over to the line of boring now.
Or we are waiting for the Republics play off result / Martin O Neill ?
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Quote from: Dr Know on November 16, 2015, 05:03:45 PMyou having a laugh.?
Lee clarke ? No thanks rubbish player rubbish manager makes Ray wilkins look good
Quote from: westcliff white on November 16, 2015, 04:21:07 PMmaybe I just don't think he would leave till at least giving a world Cup a shot. on my way to the game now, come on ireland!!!!Quote from: alexmur on November 16, 2015, 03:28:18 PMI heard there was a break clause after the euros, the F AI can break if results not good enough and O'neil if he gets a club offer he wants to takeQuote from: Riverside on November 16, 2015, 03:26:16 PMI seriously doubt it he won't leave ireland job till after world Cup qualifiersQuote from: Lighthouse on November 16, 2015, 03:10:44 PM
Bit depressing to find the so called favourite hasn't even been interviewed yet. Frankly we are crossing over to the line of boring now.
Or we are waiting for the Republics play off result / Martin O Neill ?
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Quote from: LBNo11 on November 15, 2015, 03:54:11 PMHe also regularly got Villa into a regular top six position in successive seasons if I recall correctly against even bigger and better resourced teams!Quote from: bog on November 15, 2015, 11:49:03 AM
No thanks.
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...he spent a fortune at Villa, bought expensive players that he didn't play, all players were on high wages and when he couldn't prise any more funds out of the chairman (who was frustrated that all his previous funding had not brought results) he quit just before that start of a new season. I'd much rather not...
Quote from: Wearethewhites on November 16, 2015, 04:53:05 PM
Yep nice fella, another Kit type scenario in my eyes, so no thanks.
Quote from: Dr Know on November 16, 2015, 05:03:45 PM
Lee clarke ? No thanks rubbish player rubbish manager makes Ray wilkins look good
Quote from: Dr Know on November 16, 2015, 05:03:45 PM
Lee clarke ? No thanks rubbish player rubbish manager makes Ray wilkins look good
Quote from: Dr Know on November 16, 2015, 05:03:45 PM
Lee clarke ? No thanks rubbish player rubbish manager makes Ray wilkins look good
rubbish player? the silliest post ever on here, and that's saying something
Quote from: Dr Know on November 16, 2015, 06:17:17 PM
Lee clarke sideways everytime anybody see him make a forward pass ?
Quote from: west kowloon white on November 16, 2015, 06:34:16 PMAnd not silly just my opinion on a very negative player
At least not vile.
Quote from: win-dup on November 16, 2015, 06:30:57 PMQuote from: Dr Know on November 16, 2015, 05:03:45 PM
Lee clarke ? No thanks rubbish player rubbish manager makes Ray wilkins look good
rubbish player? the silliest post ever on here, and that's saying something
Don't bite, he's winding you up!!
Quote from: Dr Know on November 16, 2015, 06:17:17 PMForward pass anybody ? Thought not
Lee clarke sideways everytime anybody see him make a forward pass ?
Quote from: HatterDon on November 16, 2015, 06:40:58 PM
Despite the heroic effort by our moderators to consolidate "new gaffer threads," there seems to be more and more by the moment.
So, I'm continuing the "I Don't Care Who Our New Gaffer Is" thread. Why? Because all the speculation in the world won't affect the board's decision and, besides, I had never heard of the guy who turned out to be -- for my money -- our best ever manager: Roy Hodgson.
So, I don't care who the next guy is.Who's with me?
Quote from: snarks on November 14, 2015, 02:43:01 PMQuote from: mike_corkcity12 on November 14, 2015, 01:36:06 PM
Rigg's lack of decisiveness in the summer has cost us big time.
Please tell me why? Is he the new management scapegoat? How do you know this? I can only presume that you were in the offices all over the summer and shadowing Rigg as he mulled over the decions to buy or not to buy players and what other steps to make, and failed to do anything at all.
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on November 16, 2015, 07:28:02 PMQuote from: snarks on November 14, 2015, 02:43:01 PMQuote from: mike_corkcity12 on November 14, 2015, 01:36:06 PM
Rigg's lack of decisiveness in the summer has cost us big time.
Please tell me why? Is he the new management scapegoat? How do you know this? I can only presume that you were in the offices all over the summer and shadowing Rigg as he mulled over the decions to buy or not to buy players and what other steps to make, and failed to do anything at all.
Rigg says that he and Kit sat down in the summer and talked about "when the divorce comes". Rigg knew in his heart of hearts that Symons was not good enough but lacked the gumption and temerity to fire him. This has cost us another season.
:plus one:
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on November 16, 2015, 07:28:02 PMQuote from: snarks on November 14, 2015, 02:43:01 PMQuote from: mike_corkcity12 on November 14, 2015, 01:36:06 PM
Rigg's lack of decisiveness in the summer has cost us big time.
Please tell me why? Is he the new management scapegoat? How do you know this? I can only presume that you were in the offices all over the summer and shadowing Rigg as he mulled over the decions to buy or not to buy players and what other steps to make, and failed to do anything at all.
Rigg says that he and Kit sat down in the summer and talked about "when the divorce comes". Rigg knew in his heart of hearts that Symons was not good enough but lacked the gumption and temerity to fire him. This has cost us another season.
Quote from: Dr Know on November 16, 2015, 06:59:17 PMThinking obviously not your strong suit.Quote from: Dr Know on November 16, 2015, 06:17:17 PMForward pass anybody ? Thought not
Lee clarke sideways everytime anybody see him make a forward pass ?
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on November 16, 2015, 07:28:02 PMQuote from: snarks on November 14, 2015, 02:43:01 PMQuote from: mike_corkcity12 on November 14, 2015, 01:36:06 PM
Rigg's lack of decisiveness in the summer has cost us big time.
Please tell me why? Is he the new management scapegoat? How do you know this? I can only presume that you were in the offices all over the summer and shadowing Rigg as he mulled over the decions to buy or not to buy players and what other steps to make, and failed to do anything at all.
Rigg says that he and Kit sat down in the summer and talked about "when the divorce comes". Rigg knew in his heart of hearts that Symons was not good enough but lacked the gumption and temerity to fire him. This has cost us another season.
Quote from: westcliff white on November 16, 2015, 08:39:39 PMPearson developed players at Leicester and got results.
O'neil would be no more awful than Pearson, Curbs, Sherwood etc
Quote from: westcliff white on November 16, 2015, 08:45:44 PMI quite like his personality.
For me Pearson is on a level with Harry and Warnock
Quote from: Dr Know on November 16, 2015, 05:03:45 PMI'm a rubbish player, but I really wish I could play over 170 times for fulham.
Lee clarke ? No thanks rubbish player rubbish manager makes Ray wilkins look good
Quote from: west kowloon white on November 16, 2015, 07:09:49 PMHe was interviewed on Talksport about another matter but was asked if he would be interested in the Fulham job. He said he would love the job as he thought Fulham was a fantastic club but pointed out that there were several candidates with much more experience that would be well ahead of him. He was actually very humble.
Not a serious candidate surely- just a comment for PC pickle .
Quote from: Dr Know on November 16, 2015, 06:59:17 PMQuote from: Dr Know on November 16, 2015, 06:17:17 PMForward pass anybody ? Thought not
Lee clarke sideways everytime anybody see him make a forward pass ?
Quote from: J.Perkins on November 16, 2015, 09:33:44 PMQuote from: Dr Know on November 16, 2015, 06:59:17 PMQuote from: Dr Know on November 16, 2015, 06:17:17 PMForward pass anybody ? Thought not
Lee clarke sideways everytime anybody see him make a forward pass ?
You clearly have no knowledge of football. Please use this link http://www.friendsoffulham.com/forum/index.php?action=logout;sesc=615bc9123298bdc0f6da52cf9b4d6410 (http://www.friendsoffulham.com/forum/index.php?action=logout;sesc=615bc9123298bdc0f6da52cf9b4d6410)
Quote from: fulhamben on November 16, 2015, 09:57:29 PMThink people are just desperate for some news.
So if O'Neil flopped big time, we might of had a chance of signing him. Am I the only one that can see a problem here
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on November 16, 2015, 10:07:53 PMQuote from: fulhamben on November 16, 2015, 09:57:29 PMRumour I read is that Pembridge has been sacked and that we are buying out the contracts of coaching staff that the new man wants.
Quote from: fulhamben on November 16, 2015, 09:57:29 PMHe's managed teams for over 900 matches, so one sudden death cup tie wouldn't be the dividing line between hero or zero in my eyes.
So if O'Neil flopped big time, we might of had a chance of signing him. Am I the only one that can see a problem here
Quote from: Dr Know on November 16, 2015, 06:48:56 PMQuote from: west kowloon white on November 16, 2015, 06:34:16 PMAnd not silly just my opinion on a very negative player
At least not vile.
Quote from: westcliff white on November 17, 2015, 08:35:24 AMOh no I wasn't having a go, its just I keep reading here and elsewhere the bookies have it this way or that, but just reflecting us poor saps really ;-)
I know all of that MJG I was just keeping people upto date
Quote from: One Martin Thomas on November 16, 2015, 10:01:59 PMOr Tigana with Murphy.
Tigana with Lee Clark or Tigana with John Collins
Quote from: AnEssexFan on November 17, 2015, 09:47:02 AMCan I sign my own players and bring in my own staff?
So, if the bookies odds reflect the monies being bet on each candidate, can I suggest that we all put a couple of pounds on MJG today and by this evening he'll be the odds on favourite to be the new Fulham manager :-)
Quote from: davew on November 17, 2015, 10:03:26 AMNo thanks. I know he's the polar opposite of Symons when it comes to showing some emotion on the pitch but...
What about Stuart Pearce??
Quote from: MJG on November 17, 2015, 10:00:19 AMYes, but I should consider it a short term project!Quote from: AnEssexFan on November 17, 2015, 09:47:02 AMCan I sign my own players and bring in my own staff?
So, if the bookies odds reflect the monies being bet on each candidate, can I suggest that we all put a couple of pounds on MJG today and by this evening he'll be the odds on favourite to be the new Fulham manager :-)
Quote from: davew on November 17, 2015, 10:03:26 AMI'd very much look forward to his 5-5-0 or 4-6-0 formations
What about Stuart Pearce??
Quote from: f321ffc on November 17, 2015, 10:38:08 AM
When Kit was sacked i really thought that yesterday would be the day the new man would be announced as i was convinced someone was lined up , the longer this goes on the more convinced i am that Rigg has #ucked up again and if no new man by Saturday then my fears will be confirmed.
Quote from: Asotosyios on November 17, 2015, 10:48:11 AMAs long as they are in place by Friday they will have a decent amount of time to get settled in and start making changesQuote from: f321ffc on November 17, 2015, 10:38:08 AM
When Kit was sacked i really thought that yesterday would be the day the new man would be announced as i was convinced someone was lined up , the longer this goes on the more convinced i am that Rigg has #ucked up again and if no new man by Saturday then my fears will be confirmed.
I wouldn't say that Rigg has ###### up, but I agree with you that I expected us to have announced a new manager by now.
Quote from: SG on November 17, 2015, 11:18:49 AM
They delay might indicate that the wanted man is employed somewhere else and we are having to negotiate settlements which takes more time. Certainly if we had wanted one of the unemployed names that have been mentioned there seems no reason why they couldn't have been secured by now. Would seem to rule most if not all of them out in that case.
Quote from: Asotosyios on November 17, 2015, 11:23:35 AMQuote from: SG on November 17, 2015, 11:18:49 AM
They delay might indicate that the wanted man is employed somewhere else and we are having to negotiate settlements which takes more time. Certainly if we had wanted one of the unemployed names that have been mentioned there seems no reason why they couldn't have been secured by now. Would seem to rule most if not all of them out in that case.
That's what I think as well, but again you would think that the X club would have said: Fulham has asked for permission to open talks with our manager etc, etc. It just sounds odd that they have been negotiating for the last 7-10 days.
Quote from: grandad on November 17, 2015, 12:23:19 PMwe don't have that luxury as we failed to sack Kit in the summer. We are currently sitting nearer the bottom 3 than the top 3 so time isn't on our side
More likely that they have interviewed the candidates & decided that they are all useless. Why rush into taking on one of the names linked if the Club don´t think they can do the job for us.No point hiring someone only to have to do it again in January.
I want the Club to get the right person , not the one the bookies have made favourite.
Quote from: Chutney on November 17, 2015, 12:40:56 PM
If they have interviewed their original candidates and decided that they aren't good enough then they are obviously doing it properly this time. Its not as simple as just putting someone in quickly, this is a massive decision and I'm happy for them to take the time needed to get it right.
Quote from: Chutney on November 17, 2015, 12:40:56 PMCan't escape a nasty feeling that it's actually the other way around. That one or two very good candidates have weighed up what's being offered and decided it's not good enough for them. Specifically that by nailing to the mast the stipulation that we will have a head coach, not a manager, Mr Rigg has caused a problem. He seems to want what lots of people in corporate life seek, which is power and influence that far outstrips his personal responsibility. Bring on the next fall guy/ lightening rod. Trouble is, a mismatch between power and responsibility usually ends up in a mess. The best candidates will have seen this all before and be very wary. Mr Khan will have seen it all before too. He will be wondering whether Mr Rigg is part of the problem or part of the solution. It's all very well talking about planning for the divorce with Mr Symons, but if no appointment is made in the following 10 days, whose plans were deficient? It's all very well talking of the top six this season, but for that to be credible we have to be serious about winning our next match.
If they have interviewed their original candidates and decided that they aren't good enough then they are obviously doing it properly this time. Its not as simple as just putting someone in quickly, this is a massive decision and I'm happy for them to take the time needed to get it right.
Quote from: Riether Lightning 63 on November 17, 2015, 12:35:05 PM
If we don't have a new manager by Saturday, the club officially gets branded as a joke. TWO WEEKS to make a decision and they couldn't do it
Quote from: AnEssexFan on November 17, 2015, 02:00:52 PM
"In his shoes I'd be speaking with Scott Parker and offering him the job. We have clear practical deficiencies that need to be solved with the current squad. SP knows them, has obvious leadership qualities and conducts himself in public with dignity. Off-the-wall? Well Gary Monk landed himself a premier league manager's job. He knew the players and what needed to be done. So does SP."
I would be happy with Scott Parker :-)
Quote from: Nero on November 17, 2015, 02:11:51 PM
Its must be Houghton we are after, as this is lasting longer then the Lewis Dunk transfer rumour Brighton most be holding out on us, I hear its because we want to pay the compensation by visa and they will only take an Amex
Quote from: SG on November 17, 2015, 11:18:49 AM
They delay might indicate that the wanted man is employed somewhere else and we are having to negotiate settlements which takes more time. Certainly if we had wanted one of the unemployed names that have been mentioned there seems no reason why they couldn't have been secured by now. Would seem to rule most if not all of them out in that case.
Quote from: fulhamross on November 17, 2015, 04:46:04 PM
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Quote from: MJG on November 17, 2015, 08:45:01 AMBecause he was negative and never looked to make a forward pass
Clark was great for us and how anyone can call him a negative or sideways player I just dont understand.
Quote from: Dr Know on November 17, 2015, 06:11:35 PMQuote from: MJG on November 17, 2015, 08:45:01 AMBecause he was negative and never looked to make a forward pass
Clark was great for us and how anyone can call him a negative or sideways player I just don't understand.
Quote from: Twig on November 17, 2015, 06:57:10 PMI think he is confusing him with Stephen davisQuote from: Dr Know on November 17, 2015, 06:11:35 PMQuote from: MJG on November 17, 2015, 08:45:01 AMBecause he was negative and never looked to make a forward pass
Clark was great for us and how anyone can call him a negative or sideways player I just don't understand.
Oh no, please drop this you are embarrassing yourself.
Quote from: fulhamben on November 17, 2015, 06:58:55 PMhas to be, anyone who cannot recognise the efforts of Clark when at Fulham was either not born or just plain blind in my opinionQuote from: Twig on November 17, 2015, 06:57:10 PMI think he is confusing him with Stephen davisQuote from: Dr Know on November 17, 2015, 06:11:35 PMQuote from: MJG on November 17, 2015, 08:45:01 AMBecause he was negative and never looked to make a forward pass
Clark was great for us and how anyone can call him a negative or sideways player I just don't understand.
Oh no, please drop this you are embarrassing yourself.
Quote from: Dr Know on November 17, 2015, 06:11:35 PMQuote from: MJG on November 17, 2015, 08:45:01 AMBecause he was negative and never looked to make a forward pass
Clark was great for us and how anyone can call him a negative or sideways player I just dont understand.
Quote from: Julius Geezer on November 17, 2015, 08:45:28 PMI'd be happy with Pearson not sure if I'd be as happy with Clarke
Looks like its Steve Clarke or Pearson.
Sounds good, would take either to be honest!
A little concerning that they've taken so long with the appointment but they're probably the best two candidates available to us anyway.
Quote from: davew on November 17, 2015, 09:43:46 PM
This post might need to be diverted to another thread, but having seen his name appear on out apparent shortlist of 3 now to take over, thought I might like to find out who this guy is as I had never heard of him!!! Ok so now I know, why don't we just do a raffle with season ticket fans and the holder of seat number in gate section number will be appointed our new coach!! What a joke this is all becoming!! All will be made clearer after Saturday's game which I have to say I think we will lose (sorry)!
Quote from: Riether Lightning 63 on November 17, 2015, 10:00:01 PM
When I first saw the name, I thought it read Peter Ridsdale
Quote from: westcliff white on November 18, 2015, 09:17:36 AMI'm still sitting on my £10 at 33-1 for Garcia. He was 20-1 last night
A lot of money must have gone on Clark as he is into 5/2 in places
Quote from: MJG on November 18, 2015, 09:22:24 AMAlways Hope MJG, I cant see why Clarke would come to us (if there is any truth in the reports), Reading are 4 points above us (only 4 but still above), they have new owners and surely they wouldn't let him go? I would think we can offer him a better package overall salary wise but then is that all anyone wants? maybe our squad on paper is better but the proof is in the performances.Quote from: westcliff white on November 18, 2015, 09:17:36 AMI'm still sitting on my £10 at 33-1 for Garcia. He was 20-1 last night
A lot of money must have gone on Clark as he is into 5/2 in places
Quote from: westcliff white on November 18, 2015, 09:28:13 AMI'm pretty sure that while its not a hard and fast rule that there is a gentleman's agreement to not approach managers in a job from the same league/division.Quote from: MJG on November 18, 2015, 09:22:24 AMAlways Hope MJG, I cant see why Clarke would come to us (if there is any truth in the reports), Reading are 4 points above us (only 4 but still above), they have new owners and surely they wouldn't let him go? I would think we can offer him a better package overall salary wise but then is that all anyone wants? maybe our squad on paper is better but the proof is in the performances.Quote from: westcliff white on November 18, 2015, 09:17:36 AMI'm still sitting on my £10 at 33-1 for Garcia. He was 20-1 last night
A lot of money must have gone on Clark as he is into 5/2 in places
I would welcome his appointment for sure but am not raising my hopes, more likely end up with a man with no morals or virtues lol
Quote from: westcliff white on November 18, 2015, 09:38:39 AMAnd of course we know all football clubs have a very high moral code and would not think of breaking that
interesting, I had never heard they maybe such a gentleman's agreement, I the isnt if we genuionely want SC
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on November 18, 2015, 11:06:15 AM
Steve Clarke? Noooooooo. Poor mans Chris Hughton.
Pearson is just playing hardball about the amount of influence Rigg can have I would say.
Quote from: Riverside on November 18, 2015, 09:01:26 AM
Does anyone know if Curbisley is still heading the training ? Is he "acting" ( not caretaker ) head coach ?
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Quote from: Oakeshott on November 18, 2015, 11:09:19 AM
"SKy bet now have Clarke at 5/4 from 4/1 that's some serious backing"
Still available at over 2/1 on Betfair.
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on November 18, 2015, 11:55:43 AMGuess that depends on his salary and contract length, apparently he has 18 months left or of course if Reading inserted a release fee
How much compensation would we have to pay? Expect us to sign a load of Chelsea loanees. At least we would be defensively solid.
Quote from: f321ffc on November 18, 2015, 12:44:39 PMYou may well ask. You may well be disappointed.
Can I be the first to ask, SOURCE?
Quote from: Neil D on November 18, 2015, 12:53:26 PMAny new man would not have had many of squad together till tomorrow anyway.
Clearly the Club had no Plan A, let alone a Plan B, in the event of Symons going. Whether we get a new manager in time for Saturday or not, he won't be able to have any impact on the MK Dons match. But what's three points? We have so many, we can afford to see a few more slip through our fingers. Risible incompetence.
Quote from: Neil D on November 18, 2015, 12:53:26 PMIf we had made an appointment the day after Kit went the new manager would have had half a squad or there abouts to work with which would have meant very little impact on the squad. I also think a few of them were given some days of as O'Hara tweeted about going to Dubai for a a few days, so again even less to work with.
Clearly the Club had no Plan A, let alone a Plan B, in the event of Symons going. Whether we get a new manager in time for Saturday or not, he won't be able to have any impact on the MK Dons match. But what's three points? We have so many, we can afford to see a few more slip through our fingers. Risible incompetence.
Quote from: Chutney on November 18, 2015, 11:07:26 AMlolQuote from: mike_corkcity12 on November 18, 2015, 11:06:15 AM
Steve Clarke? Noooooooo. Poor mans Chris Hughton.
Pearson is just playing hardball about the amount of influence Rigg can have I would say.
Do you think he's accused rigg of being an ostrich yet?
Quote from: westcliff white on November 18, 2015, 11:57:40 AMhe just spent 11 million in the summer it will be an up Hill struggle to get himQuote from: mike_corkcity12 on November 18, 2015, 11:55:43 AMGuess that depends on his salary and contract length, apparently he has 18 months left or of course if Reading inserted a release fee
How much compensation would we have to pay? Expect us to sign a load of Chelsea loanees. At least we would be defensively solid.
Quote from: westcliff white on November 18, 2015, 01:28:48 PM
he was appointed sampdoria manager last week
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Whether you like Nigel Pearson or not, I personally feel he is the best available man for the job, all things considered, plus despite what Lighthouse accuses him of, he gets on very well with his Granny, and is very kind to her.
Although the club are not running a Burma Railway, at the same token, they are not running a holiday camp either.
Pearson I would have thought should get the best out of the squad, and individual players. He may even replace Ross with a proper Captain, he will command his Technical Area, and his players will know he is there, he has presence, and will change the teams soft under belly, and give us a hard edge, which we desperately lack.
One of his biggest merits is that he has done it before and promoted a team under his command.
He is a mans man, and that's what some players need, and he will have a lot of contacts.
Do not always judge a book by it's cover.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on November 18, 2015, 04:06:00 PMI hear she is an ostrichQuote from: Lighthouse on November 18, 2015, 01:33:33 PM
Should he be appointed may I be the first to say - Oh no not him, he is awful and rude to his granny and can't control his temper.Quote from: Lighthouse on November 18, 2015, 01:33:33 PM
Should he be appointed may I be the first to say - Oh no not him, he is awful and rude to his granny and can't control his temper.
Should he not be appointed may I say - Why didn't we try harder to get Pearson he would have been perfect.
Should he not be appointed may I say - Why didn't we try harder to get Pearson he would have been perfect.
Yes but have you ever met his Granny ?.
Quote from: Chutney on November 18, 2015, 01:27:04 PMI hope you are peace with your Oneness.
Am I the only one still hoping its Montella? Although, this seems completely dead.
Quote from: mikestrand on November 18, 2015, 04:47:40 PMRemember he will be working, we understand, with Rigg and Curbishley so maybe the three together will form a balanced outlook where the sum is better than any of the individual parts.Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on November 18, 2015, 04:17:14 PM0001.jpeg
Whether you like Nigel Pearson or not, I personally feel he is the best available man for the job, all things considered, plus despite what Lighthouse accuses him of, he gets on very well with his Granny, and is very kind to her.
Although the club are not running a Burma Railway, at the same token, they are not running a holiday camp either.
Pearson I would have thought should get the best out of the squad, and individual players. He may even replace Ross with a proper Captain, he will command his Technical Area, and his players will know he is there, he has presence, and will change the teams soft under belly, and give us a hard edge, which we desperately lack.
One of his biggest merits is that he has done it before and promoted a team under his command.
He is a mans man, and that's what some players need, and he will have a lot of contacts.
Do not always judge a book by it's cover.
Quote from: filham on November 18, 2015, 06:19:49 PMthat's a good point but I am not sure Curbs will be stayingQuote from: mikestrand on November 18, 2015, 04:47:40 PMRemember he will be working, we understand, with Rigg and Curbishley so maybe the three together will form a balanced outlook where the sum is better than any of the individual parts.Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on November 18, 2015, 04:17:14 PM0001.jpeg
Whether you like Nigel Pearson or not, I personally feel he is the best available man for the job, all things considered, plus despite what Lighthouse accuses him of, he gets on very well with his Granny, and is very kind to her.
Although the club are not running a Burma Railway, at the same token, they are not running a holiday camp either.
Pearson I would have thought should get the best out of the squad, and individual players. He may even replace Ross with a proper Captain, he will command his Technical Area, and his players will know he is there, he has presence, and will change the teams soft under belly, and give us a hard edge, which we desperately lack.
One of his biggest merits is that he has done it before and promoted a team under his command.
He is a mans man, and that's what some players need, and he will have a lot of contacts.
Do not always judge a book by it's cover.
Trying to look on the bright side.
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on November 18, 2015, 07:23:10 PMthe Clarke story was timed around 18:30 what time was the Pearson one?
Daily Mail have 2 reports, 1 saying Pearson the other saying Clarke. Talk about covering your bases.
Quote from: westcliff white on November 18, 2015, 07:24:09 PMhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3323782/Fulham-close-former-Leicester-boss-Nigel-Pearson-club-continue-search-Kit-Symons-replacement.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490 (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3323782/Fulham-close-former-Leicester-boss-Nigel-Pearson-club-continue-search-Kit-Symons-replacement.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490)Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on November 18, 2015, 07:23:10 PMthe Clarke story was timed around 18:30 what time was the Pearson one?
Daily Mail have 2 reports, 1 saying Pearson the other saying Clarke. Talk about covering your bases.
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on November 18, 2015, 07:25:34 PM2:15 to 18:30 and they have changed their minds lol. if they don't know then we have no chance of getting it rightQuote from: westcliff white on November 18, 2015, 07:24:09 PMhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3323782/Fulham-close-former-Leicester-boss-Nigel-Pearson-club-continue-search-Kit-Symons-replacement.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490 (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3323782/Fulham-close-former-Leicester-boss-Nigel-Pearson-club-continue-search-Kit-Symons-replacement.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490)Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on November 18, 2015, 07:23:10 PMthe Clarke story was timed around 18:30 what time was the Pearson one?
Daily Mail have 2 reports, 1 saying Pearson the other saying Clarke. Talk about covering your bases.
Quote from: Lighthouse on November 18, 2015, 07:55:48 PMDidn't do the final numbers but Clarkes win ratio could actually be worse than kits. I'd like it to be a rolling contract if it has to be Clarke.
The Mirror are touting it as an exclusive that new Fulham manager will be - Steve Zodiac sorry Clarke
Clarke was interviewed before Kit got the job at Fulham and the owner was said to be impressed. Clarke believes that Fulham have grater potential than Reading.
All from Mirror Twitter Accounts.
May be all rubbish but that is what is being said.
Quote from: westcliff white on November 18, 2015, 08:10:49 PMabout what kit was on. Seems like a strange choice to me. Especially as we would have to pay to get him
over both West Brom and Reading its a 33.5% win ratio
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on November 18, 2015, 08:15:05 PMWho knows, he might do a tigana, but personally, I see nothing inspiring if true. Hell it's the one manager kit actually got one over on
So Rigg has chosen Clarke. Presumably Pearson did not want to work for him. Uninspired choice. Poor win ratio.
Just bang average isn't he?
Quote from: fulhamben on November 18, 2015, 08:12:40 PMKits is 34.5%Quote from: westcliff white on November 18, 2015, 08:10:49 PMabout what kit was on. Seems like a strange choice to me. Especially as we would have to pay to get him
over both West Brom and Reading its a 33.5% win ratio
Quote from: westcliff white on November 18, 2015, 08:24:34 PMit makes you wonder if we actually take results into account when looking at potential replacementsQuote from: fulhamben on November 18, 2015, 08:12:40 PMKits is 34.5%Quote from: westcliff white on November 18, 2015, 08:10:49 PMabout what kit was on. Seems like a strange choice to me. Especially as we would have to pay to get him
over both West Brom and Reading its a 33.5% win ratio
Quote from: BedsFFC on November 18, 2015, 08:30:31 PMyes they started the season well but then went on a massive run of games without a win. Inconsistent you might say. I refuse to believe this rumour as it makes no sense.
Many reading fans think Clark has lost the dressing room.
Wouldn't it be great to be on the manager merry-go-round.
Apparently many girls say as a career option "I want to be a celebrity"
Jeeez, if I was 14 I might think "I want to be one of those manager names that the job and is sacked with a multi million payoff, then moves on".
I'm being serious. If Steve Evans can do it, how bloody hard can it be?
Quote from: Loz on November 19, 2015, 12:54:11 AMthe guy seems wiling to work with a diminished job title which fits nicely into Rigg's corporate restructuring project.Very, very speculative. Rigg has specified that he wants a head coach, but it doesn't mean Clarke or whoever's appointed will be some pushover yes man. I get that people are concerned but it's just like the whole thing with criticising Khan's investment when results weren't going our way. We simply don't know and there's not enough info out there to even act like we do either.
Quote from: BedsFFC on November 18, 2015, 08:30:31 PMhahaha very true
Many reading fans think Clark has lost the dressing room.
Wouldn't it be great to be on the manager merry-go-round.
Apparently many girls say as a career option "I want to be a celebrity"
Jeeez, if I was 14 I might think "I want to be one of those manager names that gets the job and is sacked with a multi million payoff, then moves on".
I'm being serious. If Steve Evans can do it, how bloody hard can it be?
Quote from: EJL on November 19, 2015, 12:14:27 AMmaybe his head was already at the cottage
Reading winless in their last five
Quote from: Ichabod Magoo on November 19, 2015, 03:34:35 AMI'd say his sacking was first on the agenda at the interview stage
If it was a choice between Clarke and Clark, I guess I'd take Clarke with an "e". I wonder if Rigg will discuss his future sacking with him like he did with Kit.
Quote from: alexmur on November 19, 2015, 08:26:52 AMWhich probably won't be that far off if he keeps up his normal win ratioQuote from: Ichabod Magoo on November 19, 2015, 03:34:35 AMI'd say his sacking was first on the agenda at the interview stage
If it was a choice between Clarke and Clark, I guess I'd take Clarke with an "e". I wonder if Rigg will discuss his future sacking with him like he did with Kit.
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Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on November 19, 2015, 03:31:04 PM
With Clarke rejecting us, reckon it will be Curbs and Parker till seasons end.
Quote from: Chutney on November 19, 2015, 03:50:17 PMHe has - http://www.getreading.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/steve-clarke-stay-reading-fc-10470549 (http://www.getreading.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/steve-clarke-stay-reading-fc-10470549)Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on November 19, 2015, 03:31:04 PM
With Clarke rejecting us, reckon it will be Curbs and Parker till seasons end.
He hasn't rejected us. Reading have asked for 1.25mil compensation and we wont pay it, Clarke wants to join us. But anyway, unless reading stop being silly we need to move on!
Quote from: @jolslover on November 19, 2015, 04:23:50 PM
ooooh oscar garcia
Quote from: dorsetwhite on November 19, 2015, 04:57:30 PMwho the freak is Frederic Hantz
Sure Clarke drifting out and Frederic Hantz now 4/1. Tisdale of Exeter too.
Quote from: westcliff white on November 19, 2015, 05:01:39 PMJust checked not worked for a year and probably not got the experience we wantQuote from: dorsetwhite on November 19, 2015, 04:57:30 PMwho the freak is Frederic Hantz
Sure Clarke drifting out and Frederic Hantz now 4/1. Tisdale of Exeter too.
Quote from: snarks on November 19, 2015, 05:02:34 PMhe has not worked as a coach/manager In a long time, and he was an advisor to kit so based on that not a hope
Over nearly 800 matches in the first division and the prem, Curbs has a winning percentage over 38%.
Fulham as a club could do so much worse. Actually he's someone I'm coming round to the idea of as coach. He clearly has the ability, and it will be good to see what happens on Saturday.
Quote from: Domino1879 on November 19, 2015, 05:46:55 PM+1
Got to be Moyes and McKinley for me now.
Quote from: BestOfBrede on November 19, 2015, 05:58:08 PM
Jean Tigana!
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on November 19, 2015, 06:34:21 PMQuote from: bog on November 19, 2015, 06:28:42 PM
If Clarke has declined then whoever is now asked will know they were not the most wanted. :doh:
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Thank you and good night
Looks like it's down to Harry,
goodnight and thank you.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on November 19, 2015, 06:24:14 PMQuote from: Swiss72 on November 19, 2015, 05:03:17 PM
Former manager of Bastia in Ligue 1. Only managed small french clubs. Lord help us....
At this rate one of us should apply
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on November 19, 2015, 07:18:53 PM
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More importantly, Riether Lightning 63, your almost at the magical 50,000 ! 049:gif
Quote from: Riether Lightning 63 on November 19, 2015, 07:24:10 PMviews on this threadQuote from: Fulham Tup North on November 19, 2015, 07:18:53 PM
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More importantly, Riether Lightning 63, your almost at the magical 50,000 ! 049:gif
50,000 what?
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on November 19, 2015, 07:18:53 PMI posted a few days ago about this thread reaching 50,000 page views before the new man is announced, at this rate we could make 100,000.
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Quote from: Riether Lightning 63 on November 19, 2015, 07:26:25 PMForum or this thread? It could come down to the latter...
Ooh, I thought it was posts on the forum
Quote from: Ichabod Magoo on November 19, 2015, 06:41:40 PMWeren't me Ichabod, must have been Rigg!Quote from: BestOfBrede on November 19, 2015, 05:58:08 PM
Jean Tigana!
Now that would be interesting. Are you the one that edited Wikipedia to say "Becomes Fulham manager 2015"?
Quote from: BestOfBrede on November 19, 2015, 09:19:47 PMQuote from: Ichabod Magoo on November 19, 2015, 06:41:40 PMWeren't me Ichabod, must have been Rigg!Quote from: BestOfBrede on November 19, 2015, 05:58:08 PM
Jean Tigana!
Now that would be interesting. Are you the one that edited Wikipedia to say "Becomes Fulham manager 2015"?
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on November 19, 2015, 11:29:03 PMjust more speculation
Fulham want to renegotiate with Clarke - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3326258/Fulham-keen-renegotiate-Reading-boss-Steve-Clarke-talks-break-down.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490 (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3326258/Fulham-keen-renegotiate-Reading-boss-Steve-Clarke-talks-break-down.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490)
Quote from: Max Headroom on November 19, 2015, 10:54:50 PM
There are plenty of good managers out there..... Chill guys and girls
Quote from: alexmur on November 20, 2015, 07:49:00 AM
we really have no clue what's going on there has only been speculation we may get some answers at Clarke's news conference today.
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Quote from: f321ffc on November 20, 2015, 09:24:47 AMClarke: "I wasn't close to joining Fulham. I got permission to speak to them, we had a chat and I came back here the next day"
Steve Clarke says it has been a "strange week" but says "I know I made the right decision.
From radio Berkshire.
Quote from: f321ffc on November 20, 2015, 09:42:07 AM
We have heard now from Clarke his side of the storey "I wasn't close to joining Fulham. I got permission to speak to them, we had a chat and I came back here the next day" so where do we go now and who will it be, and will FFC make any statement on this.
Quote from: Domino1879 on November 20, 2015, 10:01:24 AM
Surely whoever we go for now will know that they were not the first choice.
Quote from: Chutney on November 20, 2015, 09:05:40 AM
To be fair, Hantz is a very good manager and a bit of a promotion specialist, he left Bastia in the top half of ligue 1 after taking over in the national D3, this is a remarkable achievement. He turned Bastia from an obscure team in the french lower divisions to a team competing for european football, in a very small amount of time, he'd be a great appointment!
Quote from: aaronmcguigan on November 20, 2015, 10:30:49 AMQuote from: Chutney on November 20, 2015, 09:05:40 AM
To be fair, Hantz is a very good manager and a bit of a promotion specialist, he left Bastia in the top half of ligue 1 after taking over in the national D3, this is a remarkable achievement. He turned Bastia from an obscure team in the french lower divisions to a team competing for european football, in a very small amount of time, he'd be a great appointment!
Sounds a lot like Magath... If he can work wonders in a foreign league, then he'll be a sure fire hit here ...
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on November 20, 2015, 03:30:18 AM
Being stuffed 5 2 at home to Brum, to inflict our second defeat in four days, and conceding eight goals in our last two matches, is far from stability, in fact it's more of a crisis.
Quote from: f321ffc on November 20, 2015, 11:43:58 AM
"He had the support of the players (one excluded)"
Care to expand on this
Quote from: Chutney on November 20, 2015, 09:43:46 AMI'd like to think that as well lolQuote from: f321ffc on November 20, 2015, 09:42:07 AM
We have heard now from Clarke his side of the storey "I wasn't close to joining Fulham. I got permission to speak to them, we had a chat and I came back here the next day" so where do we go now and who will it be, and will FFC make any statement on this.
I'd like to think they hadn't put all their eggs in one basket and that they were talking to other managers in the meantime.
Quote from: NorfolkJim on November 20, 2015, 12:12:13 PMHope we win, but no Curbs thanks!! If he was that good he would have been appointed in charge before now or maybe not (lol).
If we win tomorrow it could be Curbs
Quote from: f321ffc on November 20, 2015, 09:42:07 AMI would not expect FFC to make any statement until either a new manager is signed, sealed and delivered or they decide to appoint Alan Curbishley as an interim Manager - and in a way that is the way it should be.
We have heard now from Clarke his side of the storey "I wasn't close to joining Fulham. I got permission to speak to them, we had a chat and I came back here the next day" so where do we go now and who will it be, and will FFC make any statement on this.
Quote from: Roberty on November 20, 2015, 09:52:28 AMwith reading under new owners I'd say they were delighted to get rid of him plus a fee. for Clarke reputation he had to stay if anyone spent that money and got a new team in a just jumped ship he would find it very hard to get a job after. I was happy to have him but I'm very relived it's not him hopefully the club pulls out all the stops and gets someone great (moyes) to save us from this embarrassing situation.
If that is the case who told the press
We are famous for keeping secrets so presumably it was Reading who spilled the beans
Do you think Reading were hoping to save having to pay compensation to him when he gets fired sometime soon ?
Quote from: WoodyFFC73 on November 20, 2015, 12:44:27 PMand becomes another kit situation
I said on another thread, probably just as well leaving Alan there for the moment. And if he wins the next 6 games on the spin.....
Quote from: jarv on November 20, 2015, 01:53:03 PM51000 of them was Rigg checking in to give him some ideas
I see this has been read over 52000 times. Didn't know we had that many fans !!!!
So, next manager, who knows. Has the last 2 years turned Fulham into another poison chalice? Like Sunderland, Newcastle, Leeds, England (pre Roy), Scotland (post Bertie Voghts). The owner needs to step forward, make statements which suggest this is a VERY attractive job.
As for Riggs, strikes me as a tough uncompromising guy. Not sure if it is just hot air to stretch his ego.
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on November 19, 2015, 06:57:14 PM
Maybe to get out of paying any compensation to Reading - Steve Clarke has changed his name to Frederic Hantz
Quote from: Mac_21 on November 20, 2015, 04:13:17 PMthat sounds like a wind up to me
Just got a text from a mate who's a QPR fan saying Neil Warnock isn't attending their game vs Boro tonight as he's at MP having an interview. Really not a fan, far worse than Pearson. Horrible little man, really hope it's not true.
Quote from: alexmur on November 20, 2015, 04:53:21 PMQuote from: Mac_21 on November 20, 2015, 04:13:17 PMthat sounds like a wind up to me
Just got a text from a mate who's a QPR fan saying Neil Warnock isn't attending their game vs Boro tonight as he's at MP having an interview. Really not a fan, far worse than Pearson. Horrible little man, really hope it's not true.
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Quote from: Lighthouse on November 20, 2015, 04:57:41 PMI hope it's not true I really can't stand himQuote from: alexmur on November 20, 2015, 04:53:21 PMQuote from: Mac_21 on November 20, 2015, 04:13:17 PMthat sounds like a wind up to me
Just got a text from a mate who's a QPR fan saying Neil Warnock isn't attending their game vs Boro tonight as he's at MP having an interview. Really not a fan, far worse than Pearson. Horrible little man, really hope it's not true.
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Officially it's for 'personal reasons'.
Quote from: spikey norman on November 20, 2015, 06:45:35 PM
Steve Holland now second favourite with the bookies to be new boss of Fulham.
Anybody know anything about him?
Quote from: alexmur on November 20, 2015, 04:59:05 PMWarnock said yesterday that he is not interested in day to day management role anymore, but would prefer him to Pearson. But truth be told I hate both of those plus HarryQuote from: Lighthouse on November 20, 2015, 04:57:41 PMI hope it's not true I really can't stand himQuote from: alexmur on November 20, 2015, 04:53:21 PMQuote from: Mac_21 on November 20, 2015, 04:13:17 PMthat sounds like a wind up to me
Just got a text from a mate who's a QPR fan saying Neil Warnock isn't attending their game vs Boro tonight as he's at MP having an interview. Really not a fan, far worse than Pearson. Horrible little man, really hope it's not true.
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Quote from: Baszab on November 20, 2015, 11:36:47 AM
...what was the sense in firing KS with no one lined up ?
Quote from: Lighthouse on November 20, 2015, 06:52:53 PMQuote from: spikey norman on November 20, 2015, 06:45:35 PM
Steve Holland now second favourite with the bookies to be new boss of Fulham.
Anybody know anything about him?
The only one I know is assistant coach at Chelscum. Couldn't be him could it?
Quote from: BobbyTheBrain on November 20, 2015, 09:49:34 PMif you say his name 3 times in the mirror he will turn up
Jokes when Avram Grant turns up.
Quote from: Tom_FFC on November 21, 2015, 09:21:14 AM
Interesting enough, the Reading owner has come out and said we would pay ANY compensation for Clarke.
"I actually didn't tell them what was in Steve's contract," he said. "They just said they would pay.
So it was Clarke turning us down as opposed to a compensation fee not being agreed.
http://www.getreading.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/reading-fcs-chief-executive-warns-10477177? (http://www.getreading.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/reading-fcs-chief-executive-warns-10477177?)
Quote from: BigbadBillyMcKinley on November 21, 2015, 10:15:17 AM
On a brighter note, I'm 40/1.
If they wanna approach me I'll certainly listen to what they've got planned.... 082.gif
Quote from: alexbishop on November 21, 2015, 10:16:26 AMQuote from: Tom_FFC on November 21, 2015, 09:21:14 AM
Interesting enough, the Reading owner has come out and said we would pay ANY compensation for Clarke.
"I actually didn't tell them what was in Steve's contract," he said. "They just said they would pay.
So it was Clarke turning us down as opposed to a compensation fee not being agreed.
http://www.getreading.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/reading-fcs-chief-executive-warns-10477177? (http://www.getreading.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/reading-fcs-chief-executive-warns-10477177?)
This is just pathetic childish stuff really.
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on November 21, 2015, 10:27:52 AMQuote from: alexbishop on November 21, 2015, 10:16:26 AMQuote from: Tom_FFC on November 21, 2015, 09:21:14 AM
Interesting enough, the Reading owner has come out and said we would pay ANY compensation for Clarke.
"I actually didn't tell them what was in Steve's contract," he said. "They just said they would pay.
So it was Clarke turning us down as opposed to a compensation fee not being agreed.
http://www.getreading.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/reading-fcs-chief-executive-warns-10477177? (http://www.getreading.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/reading-fcs-chief-executive-warns-10477177?)
This is just pathetic childish stuff really.
Like I said in another thread, it may seem Fulham look the fools here. But when you think about it I reckon Reading come out looking even worse and certainly not any better.
You could argue they now have as many question marks over the club as us. I'm going to stick my neck out and say the relationship between Clarke and chairman is now tarnished and he won't get the patience if he doesn't pick up results. I'll predict Clarke out before January
Quote from: alexbishop on November 21, 2015, 10:16:26 AMAgreed. Classic dissembling and misinformation that people resort to when in a tight spot and have some explaining to do. Of course Fulham didn't ask what is in Mr Clarke's contract. A quick call to Mr Clarke's agent would have already given them the information.Quote from: Tom_FFC on November 21, 2015, 09:21:14 AM
Interesting enough, the Reading owner has come out and said we would pay ANY compensation for Clarke.
"I actually didn't tell them what was in Steve's contract," he said. "They just said they would pay.
So it was Clarke turning us down as opposed to a compensation fee not being agreed.
http://www.getreading.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/reading-fcs-chief-executive-warns-10477177? (http://www.getreading.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/reading-fcs-chief-executive-warns-10477177?)
This is just pathetic childish stuff really.
Quote from: gang on November 21, 2015, 11:10:03 AMIs 'gang' short for Wolfgang?
I'm German if that helps my application, I understand there was one before me but he was mad; oh no, so am I.
Quote from: laurencecapel on November 21, 2015, 01:31:23 PM
I thought Pearson was completely out of the running? We've shot ourselves in the foot wanting a head coach - basically saying you'll only do the team, Rigg will buy the players.
Quote from: Neil D on November 21, 2015, 11:17:40 AMQuote from: gang on November 21, 2015, 11:10:03 AMIs 'gang' short for Wolfgang?
I'm German if that helps my application, I understand there was one before me but he was mad; oh no, so am I.
Korrekt.
Quote from: Lighthouse on November 21, 2015, 05:16:31 PM
On BBC during the afternoon final score they were saying that Fulham have a criteria and are interviewing several people. Nobody dragged Clarke kicking and screaming to the interview and Fulham went through all the right procedures but Clarke decided to stay at Reading.
Stuart Piece has come out and said he has had an interview and would like the job.
Quote from: grandad on November 21, 2015, 02:00:09 PM
The club wanting to hire a Head Coach is making the task of finding one impossible. Everyone interviewed is a Manager & none were likely to want theit CV´s to show that their positions devalued.
Rigg needs to hold his hands up & confess that it was a poor decision & say that they are now in the hunt for an out & out Manager.
Quote from: Domino1879 on November 21, 2015, 05:25:36 PM
Unsurprisingly Pearson wants his cohorts from Leicester. That's not going to happen given Leicestershire success.
If we do get Pearson he will need to overhaul our so called coaching staff as well.
Mr Rigg needs to phone Moyes and get him with McKinley. End of.
Quote from: Domino1879 on November 21, 2015, 05:25:36 PMIs Pearson's 'loyalty' to his former coaches honourable or just stupid? They're in work, he isn't. They clearly didn't think it worth falling on their swords when Pearson got the push. He needs to think about putting a new coaching team together.
Unsurprisingly Pearson wants his cohorts from Leicester. That's not going to happen given Leicestershire success.
If we do get Pearson he will need to overhaul our so called coaching staff as well.
Quote from: Neil D on November 21, 2015, 07:24:04 PMQuote from: Domino1879 on November 21, 2015, 05:25:36 PMIs Pearson's 'loyalty' to his former coaches honourable or just stupid? They're in work, he isn't. They clearly didn't think it worth falling on their swords when Pearson got the push. He needs to think about putting a new coaching team together.
Unsurprisingly Pearson wants his cohorts from Leicester. That's not going to happen given Leicestershire success.
If we do get Pearson he will need to overhaul our so called coaching staff as well.
Quote from: westcliff white on November 21, 2015, 08:17:14 PM
I would have thought all of their contracts plus the compo to the foxes would be in excess of thr 1.25 million personally.
Quote from: Loz on November 22, 2015, 12:57:27 AMQuote from: westcliff white on November 21, 2015, 08:17:14 PM
I would have thought all of their contracts plus the compo to the foxes would be in excess of thr 1.25 million personally.
Just pay the compo, I say. We know Khan's good for it, and those guys got Leicester to the top of the Prem, they must be doing something right! Could prove value for money.
Quote from: Wearethewhites on November 22, 2015, 01:07:05 AMPlus there is FFP to considerQuote from: Loz on November 22, 2015, 12:57:27 AMQuote from: westcliff white on November 21, 2015, 08:17:14 PM
I would have thought all of their contracts plus the compo to the foxes would be in excess of thr 1.25 million personally.
Just pay the compo, I say. We know Khan's good for it, and those guys got Leicester to the top of the Prem, they must be doing something right! Could prove value for money.
Not as simple as that. Both the coaches in question are on a performance related salary. As it stands, they both stand to double their wages, so why would they want to leave? Based on that, not only would you have to pay Leicester compensation, you'd also have to match both their wagers, or even even bet it. Wages like that in the Championship would just be ridiculous.
Quote from: HatterDon on November 22, 2015, 05:08:39 AMSurely meant for the desert island thread. 064.gif
Has anybody mooted Cheri Lunghi?
Quote from: Wearethewhites on November 22, 2015, 01:07:05 AMThank you, everyone seems to have missed the point that we actually be paying double what they may earn at Leicester plus also they would want an above average wage for term of contract also.Quote from: Loz on November 22, 2015, 12:57:27 AMQuote from: westcliff white on November 21, 2015, 08:17:14 PM
I would have thought all of their contracts plus the compo to the foxes would be in excess of thr 1.25 million personally.
Just pay the compo, I say. We know Khan's good for it, and those guys got Leicester to the top of the Prem, they must be doing something right! Could prove value for money.
Not as simple as that. Both the coaches in question are on a performance related salary. As it stands, they both stand to double their wages, so why would they want to leave? Based on that, not only would you have to pay Leicester compensation, you'd also have to match both their wagers, or even even bet it. Wages like that in the Championship would just be ridiculous.
Quote from: @jolslover on November 22, 2015, 12:21:44 PM
Just seen Brentford close to appointing Monks assistant at Swansea, Josep Clotet. Now that is an appointment I would be happy with, He will instil a good style of football with Brentford. I feel like all the names we have been linked with have been English/Scottish and we are getting too hung up on champ experience and due to that we are not thinking outside the box
Quote from: HatterDon on November 22, 2015, 05:08:39 AMDoes this have any sexual connotations of which I am unaware?
Has anybody mooted Cheri Lunghi?
Quote from: f321ffc on November 22, 2015, 08:56:59 AMQuote from: HatterDon on November 22, 2015, 05:08:39 AM
Has anybody mooted Cheri Lunghi?
Surely meant for the desert island thread. 064.gif
Quote from: Neil D on November 22, 2015, 12:50:39 PMQuote from: HatterDon on November 22, 2015, 05:08:39 AMDoes this have any sexual connotations of which I am unaware?
Has anybody mooted Cheri Lunghi?
Quote from: snarks on November 22, 2015, 02:03:50 PMI did remember that. I just thought 'mooting' was such a good word that it could become for this forum what 'Ugandan relations' is for Private Eye...So, henceforth, anyone who posits the verb 'to moot' should be aware. However, if someone wishes to 'moot' Nigel Pearson, it would be best if the meaning conveyed is the original, dictionary-based one. Nigel may be displeased and you wouldn't like that.Quote from: Neil D on November 22, 2015, 12:50:39 PMQuote from: HatterDon on November 22, 2015, 05:08:39 AMDoes this have any sexual connotations of which I am unaware?
Has anybody mooted Cheri Lunghi?
No it relates to an old itv series called the manageress. Where the aforementioned Ms Lunghi was appointed to manage a team.
Quote from: Putney Swope on November 22, 2015, 03:41:15 PMno
Steve MacLaren will be out at Newcastle shortly; would you like to see him as our Head Coach?
Quote from: Putney Swope on November 22, 2015, 03:41:15 PMSo are you MOOTING him as our new head coach ?
Steve MacLaren will be out at Newcastle shortly; would you like to see him as our Head Coach?
Quote from: Lighthouse on November 22, 2015, 03:59:13 PMYou cant beat a good moot at this time of day. 090.gif 092.gif
It's a moot point but shouldn't we all do a little mooting from time to time.
Quote from: MJG on November 22, 2015, 10:05:13 AMQuote from: Wearethewhites on November 22, 2015, 01:07:05 AMThank you, everyone seems to have missed the point that we actually be paying double what they may earn at Leicester plus also they would want an above average wage for term of contract also.Quote from: Loz on November 22, 2015, 12:57:27 AMQuote from: westcliff white on November 21, 2015, 08:17:14 PM
I would have thought all of their contracts plus the compo to the foxes would be in excess of thr 1.25 million personally.
Just pay the compo, I say. We know Khan's good for it, and those guys got Leicester to the top of the Prem, they must be doing something right! Could prove value for money.
Not as simple as that. Both the coaches in question are on a performance related salary. As it stands, they both stand to double their wages, so why would they want to leave? Based on that, not only would you have to pay Leicester compensation, you'd also have to match both their wagers, or even even bet it. Wages like that in the Championship would just be ridiculous.
Quote from: Lighthouse on November 22, 2015, 03:59:13 PM(http://www.mememaker.net/static/images/memes/3944551.jpg)
It's a moot point but shouldn't we all do a little mooting from time to time.
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on November 22, 2015, 04:35:28 PMAre you acquainted with ToodlesMcMoot?
One would also expect that we'd have to pay Pearson over the odds just because his assistants would be on such high wages.
Quote from: Neil D on November 22, 2015, 05:07:55 PMQuote from: ToodlesMcToot on November 22, 2015, 04:35:28 PMAre you acquainted with ToodlesMcMoot?
One would also expect that we'd have to pay Pearson over the odds just because his assistants would be on such high wages.
Quote from: Wearethewhites on November 22, 2015, 01:07:05 AMQuote from: Loz on November 22, 2015, 12:57:27 AMQuote from: westcliff white on November 21, 2015, 08:17:14 PM
I would have thought all of their contracts plus the compo to the foxes would be in excess of thr 1.25 million personally.
Just pay the compo, I say. We know Khan's good for it, and those guys got Leicester to the top of the Prem, they must be doing something right! Could prove value for money.
Not as simple as that. Both the coaches in question are on a performance related salary. As it stands, they both stand to double their wages, so why would they want to leave? Based on that, not only would you have to pay Leicester compensation, you'd also have to match both their wagers, or even even bet it. Wages like that in the Championship would just be ridiculous.
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on November 22, 2015, 10:14:49 PM
Why does anyone think, apart from whether it is a good idea or not to get Pearson, that we could get his coaches from Leicester?
They may have some loyalty to Pearson but might they not by now have some loyalty to the players and the club and some respect for Rainieri?
And why would they leave a club which may well be in Europe next season, possibly even in the Champions League, for one that will most likely still be in the Championship and quite possibly to be in the Championship for a season or two after that?
Overall, wouldn't it be wiser to look elsewhere?
Quote from: NogoodBoyo on November 22, 2015, 11:55:42 PMQuote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on November 22, 2015, 10:14:49 PM
Why does anyone think, apart from whether it is a good idea or not to get Pearson, that we could get his coaches from Leicester?
They may have some loyalty to Pearson but might they not by now have some loyalty to the players and the club and some respect for Rainieri?
And why would they leave a club which may well be in Europe next season, possibly even in the Champions League, for one that will most likely still be in the Championship and quite possibly to be in the Championship for a season or two after that?
Overall, wouldn't it be wiser to look elsewhere?
Wholeheartedly agree.
Nogood "time to move on, isit" Boyo
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on November 23, 2015, 02:46:18 AMTrue but not as much fun as the FoF definition. Ask Cherie Lunghi.
Mooting, as defined in the Oxford, Colin's English Dictionary is "Subject to debate, arguable or unsettled".
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on November 23, 2015, 01:57:42 PMQuote from: Neil D on November 22, 2015, 05:07:55 PMQuote from: ToodlesMcToot on November 22, 2015, 04:35:28 PMAre you acquainted with ToodlesMcMoot?
One would also expect that we'd have to pay Pearson over the odds just because his assistants would be on such high wages.
If we have to pay Pearson over the odds, then so be it. We need a proper Manager in place ASAP, and whether you like it or not, he fits the profile, we need a decent coaching team, if his former coaching team at Leicester are willing to come to Fulham for a certain fee, then pay them, we need them more than they need us. If they get us promoted, that will pay us back many times over.
Whilst we are in limbo, there is no guarantee that the players will give full commitment, going by the performance v MK Dons.
The club has to come into the real world, as The Chairman has to visit the Planet Earth regarding football.
Having said that, I am pleased the way Khan put his foot down with regards to Clarkes extra demands, he sorted that out for the moment.
I didn't want Clarke anyway, he isn't the answer.
I am still optimistic that with the right man in charge, we have an outside chance of the play offs, but that will erode rapidly with every point lost.
After the disappointing issues with Managers over the last few years, it's imperative the club gets it right this time round.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on November 23, 2015, 01:57:42 PMQuote from: Neil D on November 22, 2015, 05:07:55 PMQuote from: ToodlesMcToot on November 22, 2015, 04:35:28 PMAre you acquainted with ToodlesMcMoot?
One would also expect that we'd have to pay Pearson over the odds just because his assistants would be on such high wages.
If we have to pay Pearson over the odds, then so be it. We need a proper Manager in place ASAP, and whether you like it or not, he fits the profile, we need a decent coaching team, if his former coaching team at Leicester are willing to come to Fulham for a certain fee, then pay them, we need them more than they need us. If they get us promoted, that will pay us back many times over.
Whilst we are in limbo, there is no guarantee that the players will give full commitment, going by the performance v MK Dons.
The club has to come into the real world, as The Chairman has to visit the Planet Earth regarding football.
Having said that, I am pleased the way Khan put his foot down with regards to Clarkes extra demands, he sorted that out for the moment.
I didn't want Clarke anyway, he isn't the answer.
I am still optimistic that with the right man in charge, we have an outside chance of the play offs, but that will erode rapidly with every point lost.
After the disappointing issues with Managers over the last few years, it's imperative the club gets it right this time round.
Quote from: snarks on November 23, 2015, 03:52:54 PM
My own view, for what it's worth, and given that the search is likely to be more protracted than originally envisiged is that it's given to curbs until the Club get who they want. I do think beyond a week you cannot carry on with no-one in interim charge.
There has to be someone, the players need one person to look to, the fans need someone to abuse.
Quote from: Burt on November 23, 2015, 12:32:06 PM
Q. Why would the coaches of Leicester City want to trade top of the table Premier League and a possible European position by the end of the season for a mid-table Championship club?
A. They wouldn't.
Time to move on.
Quote from: grandad on November 23, 2015, 07:19:40 PMbetter still don't play him!
While we wait for a new man to take over as Head Coach / Manager I have a little advice for Grant.
Never ever play the diamond & never ever play Kavanagh as left midfield/ winger.
Quote from: MJG on November 23, 2015, 09:37:10 PMHe put the coaching team together , picked the team and sorted out the tactics
Why is he best choice when really all you are getting is 1/3rd of his management team? He might be like Samson without his hair.
Quote from: mikestrand on November 23, 2015, 09:45:06 PMQuote from: MJG on November 23, 2015, 09:37:10 PMHe put the coaching team together , picked the team and sorted out the tactics
Why is he best choice when really all you are getting is 1/3rd of his management team? He might be like Samson without his hair.
why the attempt to discredit him?.
.
Quote from: mikestrand on November 23, 2015, 09:45:06 PMNot trying to discredit him at all... For that just watch any number of press conferences from last season... But point still stands, he has the two guys with him wherever he has been. He trusts them, he knows them and they know him. Your not getting the full package that got Leicester promoted or kept them up. And isn't that the reason he's wanted?Quote from: MJG on November 23, 2015, 09:37:10 PMHe put the coaching team together , picked the team and sorted out the tactics
Why is he best choice when really all you are getting is 1/3rd of his management team? He might be like Samson without his hair.
why the attempt to discredit him?.
.
Quote from: MJG on November 23, 2015, 09:59:21 PMYou might not get the old package, but you get a guy who's capable of putting a winning package together.Quote from: mikestrand on November 23, 2015, 09:45:06 PMNot trying to discredit him at all... For that just watch any number of press conferences from last season... But point still stands, he has the two guys with him wherever he has been. He trusts them, he knows them and they know him. Your not getting the full package that got Leicester promoted or kept them up. And isn't that the reason he's wanted?Quote from: MJG on November 23, 2015, 09:37:10 PMHe put the coaching team together , picked the team and sorted out the tactics
Why is he best choice when really all you are getting is 1/3rd of his management team? He might be like Samson without his hair.
why the attempt to discredit him?.
.
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on November 23, 2015, 09:57:49 PMHopefully demands that he wants both those coaches in his team are speculation, because we cant compete with premiership wages.Quote from: mikestrand on November 23, 2015, 09:45:06 PMQuote from: MJG on November 23, 2015, 09:37:10 PMHe put the coaching team together , picked the team and sorted out the tactics
Why is he best choice when really all you are getting is 1/3rd of his management team? He might be like Samson without his hair.
why the attempt to discredit him?.
.
Do we really know which responsibilities each member of his staff held?
There's also a reason that he demands that he has both those coaches in his team. And the most likely reason is that he believes he'll perform better with them than without them.
Are you willing to pay what he'll require knowing that he'll not be able to give you his best?
If we are getting the whole package with him and the decision is to pay over the odds to get them all, then so be it. I'll support that. Seems too risky otherwise.
Quote from: mikestrand on November 23, 2015, 10:36:01 PMQuote from: MJG on November 23, 2015, 09:59:21 PMYou might not get the old package, but you get a guy who's capable of putting a winning package together.Quote from: mikestrand on November 23, 2015, 09:45:06 PMNot trying to discredit him at all... For that just watch any number of press conferences from last season... But point still stands, he has the two guys with him wherever he has been. He trusts them, he knows them and they know him. Your not getting the full package that got Leicester promoted or kept them up. And isn't that the reason he's wanted?Quote from: MJG on November 23, 2015, 09:37:10 PMHe put the coaching team together , picked the team and sorted out the tactics
Why is he best choice when really all you are getting is 1/3rd of his management team? He might be like Samson without his hair.
why the attempt to discredit him?.
.
Quote from: Ordar on November 23, 2015, 03:12:06 PM
WM I quite agree. The players need a massive kick up the bum. They are underperforming, and the fact that we only turn up for 1 half a game they must take some of the blame. Maybe they've not been pushed enough in training, but a few of them seem to be carrying some weight, and there seems a lack of motivation within the squad.
Quote from: NogoodBoyo on November 23, 2015, 11:34:52 PMYep there's no guarantees Boyo.Quote from: mikestrand on November 23, 2015, 10:36:01 PMQuote from: MJG on November 23, 2015, 09:59:21 PMYou might not get the old package, but you get a guy who's capable of putting a winning package together.Quote from: mikestrand on November 23, 2015, 09:45:06 PMNot trying to discredit him at all... For that just watch any number of press conferences from last season... But point still stands, he has the two guys with him wherever he has been. He trusts them, he knows them and they know him. Your not getting the full package that got Leicester promoted or kept them up. And isn't that the reason he's wanted?Quote from: MJG on November 23, 2015, 09:37:10 PMHe put the coaching team together , picked the team and sorted out the tactics
Why is he best choice when really all you are getting is 1/3rd of his management team? He might be like Samson without his hair.
why the attempt to discredit him?.
.
I was wondering aloud the other day as to why Tigana had never recreated the level of performances he did with Lyon, Monaco and Fulham after he left here. A poster (I think it might have been MJG) advised me that his talented coaching team never followed him to Turkey, China and Timbuktoo.
Nogood "therein lies the problem with Pearson perhaps, isit" Boyo
Quote from: mikestrand on November 23, 2015, 10:53:42 PMQuote from: ToodlesMcToot on November 23, 2015, 09:57:49 PMHopefully demands that he wants both those coaches in his team are speculation, because we cant compete with premiership wages.Quote from: mikestrand on November 23, 2015, 09:45:06 PMQuote from: MJG on November 23, 2015, 09:37:10 PMHe put the coaching team together , picked the team and sorted out the tactics
Why is he best choice when really all you are getting is 1/3rd of his management team? He might be like Samson without his hair.
why the attempt to discredit him?.
.
Do we really know which responsibilities each member of his staff held?
There's also a reason that he demands that he has both those coaches in his team. And the most likely reason is that he believes he'll perform better with them than without them.
Are you willing to pay what he'll require knowing that he'll not be able to give you his best?
If we are getting the whole package with him and the decision is to pay over the odds to get them all, then so be it. I'll support that. Seems too risky otherwise.
At the end of the he's the only boss in the frame who can say he's actually won the championship and as such is the less risky.
Quote from: Ordar on November 24, 2015, 08:48:20 AMWhich given the leaks (Whoever they were from) over Clarke on Thursday is possibly not a bad thing.
Its all gone very very quiet
Quote from: jelmo on November 24, 2015, 09:13:21 AM
It really shouldn't take this long to appoint a new manager. It's pretty embarrassing but I guess we are used to this sort of ineptitude now.
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on November 24, 2015, 05:44:31 AMTrue if true Toodles, but its all speculation.Quote from: mikestrand on November 23, 2015, 10:53:42 PMQuote from: ToodlesMcToot on November 23, 2015, 09:57:49 PMHopefully demands that he wants both those coaches in his team are speculation, because we cant compete with premiership wages.Quote from: mikestrand on November 23, 2015, 09:45:06 PMQuote from: MJG on November 23, 2015, 09:37:10 PMHe put the coaching team together , picked the team and sorted out the tactics
Why is he best choice when really all you are getting is 1/3rd of his management team? He might be like Samson without his hair.
why the attempt to discredit him?.
.
Do we really know which responsibilities each member of his staff held?
There's also a reason that he demands that he has both those coaches in his team. And the most likely reason is that he believes he'll perform better with them than without them.
Are you willing to pay what he'll require knowing that he'll not be able to give you his best?
If we are getting the whole package with him and the decision is to pay over the odds to get them all, then so be it. I'll support that. Seems too risky otherwise.
At the end of the he's the only boss in the frame who can say he's actually won the championship and as such is the less risky.
Without saying it outright, he's telling anyone who will listen that he needs those two coaches to be successful.
Quote from: westcliff white on November 24, 2015, 08:18:34 AM
According too sky bet, for what it's worth, Gary Rowett is second Favourite and curbs third
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So has this guy got all the managerial experience that Kit lacked, I suspect not.
Quote from: filham on November 24, 2015, 10:09:12 AMQuote from: westcliff white on November 24, 2015, 08:18:34 AM
According too sky bet, for what it's worth, Gary Rowett is second Favourite and curbs third
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So has this guy got all the managerial experience that Kit lacked, I suspect not.
Well he's managed 140 more games than Kit did so I'd say yes.
Quote from: MJG on November 24, 2015, 08:50:33 AMQuote from: Ordar on November 24, 2015, 08:48:20 AMWhich given the leaks (Whoever they were from) over Clarke on Thursday is possibly not a bad thing.
Its all gone very very quiet
Quote from: Riverside on November 24, 2015, 10:42:05 AMThey didntQuote from: MJG on November 24, 2015, 08:50:33 AMQuote from: Ordar on November 24, 2015, 08:48:20 AMWhich given the leaks (Whoever they were from) over Clarke on Thursday is possibly not a bad thing.
Its all gone very very quiet
Makes me think the leaks did not come from us .
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Quote from: Ordar on November 24, 2015, 10:43:26 AMWe could get our fingers burnt clarke style again.
So Gary Rowett is now favourite for the job on the majority of sites. Not that that means anything
Quote from: fulham traveller on November 24, 2015, 12:37:03 PMOK. So he has a little more managerial experience that KS and a better win percentage but no proven record at Championship level. I don't see him as a qualitative improvement over Symons, more an upwards tweaking. Current reports indicate that Jokanovic will cost too much to prise away from Tel Aviv. That is a pity. So, in the circumstances,...
Get Gary Rowett now, this would be a top appointment, and he would have money to spend
Quote from: Wearethewhites on November 24, 2015, 01:52:56 PM
Is it just me, or does anyone else not get excited about the prospect of Gary Rowett? Yes he's OK, but not the sort of managerial / coaching statement I was hoping for. Again, we take a risk on a "Will he won't he" type coach, who is still relatively new to the game, and doesn't have any experience of getting a team out of the Championship.
Quote from: grandad on November 24, 2015, 03:01:07 PM
If all these managers can´t do the job without their coaches, why not just go after the best coaches & forget the manager. Riggsy can do the managers job.
Quote from: mikestrand on November 24, 2015, 04:16:25 PMWhere did you see that then, because it's not on their official website or twitter account (unless I'm missing it)?
Birmingham City insist they have not been
contacted about the availability of their manager Gary Rowett.
The Championship club have this afternoon issued a brief statement which simply reads: "We have not had an approach from any club for Gary Rowett."
The Blues boss has today been connected with both the vacancy at Championship rivals Fulham and Queens Park Rangers.
Quote from: Chesh on November 24, 2015, 05:08:21 PMhttp://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/birmingham-city-havent-been-approached-10495386 (http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/birmingham-city-havent-been-approached-10495386) [/url]easily missedQuote from: mikestrand on November 24, 2015, 04:16:25 PMWhere did you see that then, because it's not on their official website or twitter account (unless I'm missing it)?
Birmingham City insist they have not been
contacted about the availability of their manager Gary Rowett.
The Championship club have this afternoon issued a brief statement which simply reads: "We have not had an approach from any club for Gary Rowett."
The Blues boss has today been connected with both the vacancy at Championship rivals Fulham and Queens Park Rangers.
Quote from: Loz on November 24, 2015, 05:06:13 PM
I understood the sacking of Kit to be about ambition, about wanting to move a level up, so I'll be disappointed if instead we're just going to pinch another unproven manager from a team a few places above us in the league.
Ultimately, if we can't convince anyone with Premier League/ Championship promotion experience to join us then there are a lot of worse options than Gary Rowett, but I was hoping for more.
Quote from: Ordar on November 24, 2015, 05:44:56 PMSurely Birmingham will resit a move for their manager and if we proceed the matter will drag on for a while.
I'm a bit surprised that Rowett wasn't ahead of Clarke and maybe even Pearson as the club's preferred choice. Of the coaches that we've been directly linked with, I'd say he's the best.
Maybe they didn't think they could get him (maybe they can't).
Quote from: Wimbledon_White on November 24, 2015, 07:41:12 PM
Anyone else really disillusioned with this whole saga?
Quote from: Wimbledon_White on November 24, 2015, 07:41:12 PMSadly no illusions about the modern football business to be dissed. I'd put it another way. In the history of our club, what has followed the departure of Mr Symons will not be viewed as our finest hour. Very far from it. I'm glad the club aren't putting out more in the public domain. What the club has put out hasn't helped the negotiation process.
Anyone else really disillusioned with this whole saga?
Quote from: YankeeJim on November 24, 2015, 07:47:17 PM
Seems we have been linked with every gaffer in Europe. I suppose the next rumor will be Sir Alex coming out of retirement.
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Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on November 24, 2015, 08:59:44 PMQuote from: YankeeJim on November 24, 2015, 07:47:17 PM
Seems we have been linked with every gaffer in Europe. I suppose the next rumor will be Sir Alex coming out of retirement.
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The club doesn't stock enough chewing gum for Red Beak.
Quote from: Wimbledon_White on November 24, 2015, 11:27:25 PM
Wow, what a surprise, WeAreTheWhites disagrees with me. Quelle surprise.
Oh and he got a little dig in about Kit.
Pathetic really.
Quote from: Nero on November 24, 2015, 09:48:03 PMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on November 24, 2015, 08:59:44 PMQuote from: YankeeJim on November 24, 2015, 07:47:17 PM
Seems we have been linked with every gaffer in Europe. I suppose the next rumor will be Sir Alex coming out of retirement.
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The club doesn't stock enough chewing gum for Red Beak.
plus he has no experience in the championship
Quote from: Wimbledon_White on November 24, 2015, 07:41:12 PMyes but I'm trying to stay positive. everyday my Mrs asks me do we have a new manager and even she thinks it's a joke. but I don't work in football and have very little knowledge of what goes on behind the scenes, so I have faith in rigg so let's see how it pans out I really think kahn will get us where we belong.
Anyone else really disillusioned with this whole saga?
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on November 24, 2015, 08:59:44 PMrumor has it he is back on the whiskeyQuote from: YankeeJim on November 24, 2015, 07:47:17 PM
Seems we have been linked with every gaffer in Europe. I suppose the next rumor will be Sir Alex coming out of retirement.
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The club doesn't stock enough chewing gum for Red Beak.
Quote from: filham on November 24, 2015, 06:38:05 PMQuote from: Ordar on November 24, 2015, 05:44:56 PMSurely Birmingham will resit a move for their manager and if we proceed the matter will drag on for a while.
I'm a bit surprised that Rowett wasn't ahead of Clarke and maybe even Pearson as the club's preferred choice. Of the coaches that we've been directly linked with, I'd say he's the best.
Maybe they didn't think they could get him (maybe they can't).
Can't believe there is not a suitable out of work manager out there for us.
Quote from: snarks on November 25, 2015, 09:19:36 AMincredibly poor decision to ignore him as caretaker.
Regardless of who the Club chooses as a new Head Coach, there is a definate need for an interim. From watching the team on Saturday, Peter Grant didn't cut it, at all. I would say give it to Curbs, despite the seeming hostility to his long term appointment, there needs to be someone in charge.
Curbs has the experience, and iI would say the presence to do it. Either him or Scotty P, but only as an interim position.
Quote from: mikestrand on November 25, 2015, 09:33:48 AMQuote from: snarks on November 25, 2015, 09:19:36 AMincredibly poor decision to ignore him as caretaker.
Regardless of who the Club chooses as a new Head Coach, there is a definate need for an interim. From watching the team on Saturday, Peter Grant didn't cut it, at all. I would say give it to Curbs, despite the seeming hostility to his long term appointment, there needs to be someone in charge.
Curbs has the experience, and iI would say the presence to do it. Either him or Scotty P, but only as an interim position.
Maybe he didn't want it.
Quote from: filham on November 25, 2015, 10:10:30 AMQuote from: mikestrand on November 25, 2015, 09:33:48 AMQuote from: snarks on November 25, 2015, 09:19:36 AMincredibly poor decision to ignore him as caretaker.
Regardless of who the Club chooses as a new Head Coach, there is a definate need for an interim. From watching the team on Saturday, Peter Grant didn't cut it, at all. I would say give it to Curbs, despite the seeming hostility to his long term appointment, there needs to be someone in charge.
Curbs has the experience, and iI would say the presence to do it. Either him or Scotty P, but only as an interim position.
Maybe he didn't want it.
You would have expected Curbs as caretaker to have been announced at the same time as Kit's sacking.
But then the whole business of Curbs at the Cottage is clouded in mystery, it has never been made clear what his duties and responsibilities are.
Quote from: Wearethewhites on November 24, 2015, 07:50:40 PMQuote from: Wimbledon_White on November 24, 2015, 07:41:12 PM
Anyone else really disillusioned with this whole saga?
Nope, don't feel that we're in any rush to install a new coach. Won't be going up, shouldn't be going down either with the quality we have. Realistically, a promotion push will only happen next season after Kits failings, so as long as we have someone in place by the January window to continue building the squad, that's fine by me.
Quote from: filham on November 25, 2015, 10:31:52 AMQuote from: Wearethewhites on November 24, 2015, 07:50:40 PMQuote from: Wimbledon_White on November 24, 2015, 07:41:12 PM
Anyone else really disillusioned with this whole saga?
Nope, don't feel that we're in any rush to install a new coach. Won't be going up, shouldn't be going down either with the quality we have. Realistically, a promotion push will only happen next season after Kits failings, so as long as we have someone in place by the January window to continue building the squad, that's fine by me.
If we let this matter idle on and on until Christmas (say 5 matches) we could find ourselves down in the relegation zone (at the moment we have a cushion of only 6 points). Then it will be even more difficult to attract a new man and the remit will have changed as we will be in need of a manager who has the stomach for a relegation scrap.
Anyway who is going to be available at Christmas that is not available now.
Quote from: OdecaMynoT on November 25, 2015, 11:22:10 AM
Steve McLaren?
Quote from: Horsfield_No9 on November 25, 2015, 11:30:07 AMHe worked for the FA so he must be good ; )
At least we have Stuart Pearce waiting in the wings.
Quote from: filham on November 25, 2015, 10:31:52 AMmoyes!Quote from: Wearethewhites on November 24, 2015, 07:50:40 PMQuote from: Wimbledon_White on November 24, 2015, 07:41:12 PM
Anyone else really disillusioned with this whole saga?
Nope, don't feel that we're in any rush to install a new coach. Won't be going up, shouldn't be going down either with the quality we have. Realistically, a promotion push will only happen next season after Kits failings, so as long as we have someone in place by the January window to continue building the squad, that's fine by me.
If we let this matter idle on and on until Christmas (say 5 matches) we could find ourselves down in the relegation zone (at the moment we have a cushion of only 6 points). Then it will be even more difficult to attract a new man and the remit will have changed as we will be in need of a manager who has the stomach for a relegation scrap.
Anyway who is going to be available at Christmas that is not available now.
Quote from: filham on November 25, 2015, 10:10:30 AMQuote from: mikestrand on November 25, 2015, 09:33:48 AMQuote from: snarks on November 25, 2015, 09:19:36 AMincredibly poor decision to ignore him as caretaker.
Regardless of who the Club chooses as a new Head Coach, there is a definate need for an interim. From watching the team on Saturday, Peter Grant didn't cut it, at all. I would say give it to Curbs, despite the seeming hostility to his long term appointment, there needs to be someone in charge.
Curbs has the experience, and iI would say the presence to do it. Either him or Scotty P, but only as an interim position.
Maybe he didn't want it.
You would have expected Curbs as caretaker to have been announced at the same time as Kit's sacking.
But then the whole business of Curbs at the Cottage is clouded in mystery, it has never been made clear what his duties and responsibilities are.
Quote from: NogoodBoyo on November 25, 2015, 12:54:35 PMvery true he must have known he was never getting the job before saying that. for me he was part of kits team and will be replaced as soon as the new man comes inQuote from: filham on November 25, 2015, 10:10:30 AMQuote from: mikestrand on November 25, 2015, 09:33:48 AMQuote from: snarks on November 25, 2015, 09:19:36 AMincredibly poor decision to ignore him as caretaker.
Regardless of who the Club chooses as a new Head Coach, there is a definate need for an interim. From watching the team on Saturday, Peter Grant didn't cut it, at all. I would say give it to Curbs, despite the seeming hostility to his long term appointment, there needs to be someone in charge.
Curbs has the experience, and iI would say the presence to do it. Either him or Scotty P, but only as an interim position.
Maybe he didn't want it.
You would have expected Curbs as caretaker to have been announced at the same time as Kit's sacking.
But then the whole business of Curbs at the Cottage is clouded in mystery, it has never been made clear what his duties and responsibilities are.
I've said it before, but it does bear repetition. After Kit's sacking, Curbs openly challenged the judgement/decision-making of our Chair, Board and Director of Football (or whatever Rigg is called) in stating that clubs constantly make the mistake now of sacking managers before they've been given a chance to succeed.
Such disloyalty is hardly likely to have left Curbs with any support in the club's hierarchy.
His days must be numbered.
Nogood "don't openly question the management if you want to join the management, isit" Boyo
Quote from: Chesh on November 25, 2015, 01:52:53 PMhttp://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/birmingham-city-boss-gary-rowett-8154661 (http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/birmingham-city-boss-gary-rowett-8154661)
For the avoidance of doubt, Gary Rowett was, is, and always will be a mad Aston Villa fan, and so those saying he would never leave the club he supports couldn't be further off the mark.
I have seen this in a newspaper cutting posted as a photo on a Brum site from when he was 19 and signed for Everton from Cambridge, and there are quotes directly from Rowett himself.
He was born in Bromsgrove, and grew up supporting Villa, and continued to do so even when he moved to Isle of Wight, and then East Anglia.
FWIW he is now strong odds on with all the usual suspects, having moved from 8/11 to 1/3 with Skybet at 12.20pm.
Quote from: Robertw on November 25, 2015, 02:10:46 PMQuote from: Chesh on November 25, 2015, 01:52:53 PMhttp://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/birmingham-city-boss-gary-rowett-8154661 (http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/birmingham-city-boss-gary-rowett-8154661)
For the avoidance of doubt, Gary Rowett was, is, and always will be a mad Aston Villa fan, and so those saying he would never leave the club he supports couldn't be further off the mark.
I have seen this in a newspaper cutting posted as a photo on a Brum site from when he was 19 and signed for Everton from Cambridge, and there are quotes directly from Rowett himself.
He was born in Bromsgrove, and grew up supporting Villa, and continued to do so even when he moved to Isle of Wight, and then East Anglia.
FWIW he is now strong odds on with all the usual suspects, having moved from 8/11 to 1/3 with Skybet at 12.20pm.
Rowett claims here he was not a Villa fan just pictured in a Villa shirt while living in the Isle of Wight
Quote from: Chesh on November 25, 2015, 02:24:28 PMthis is all very similar to how we ended up bagging ClarkQuote from: Robertw on November 25, 2015, 02:10:46 PMQuote from: Chesh on November 25, 2015, 01:52:53 PMhttp://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/birmingham-city-boss-gary-rowett-8154661 (http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/birmingham-city-boss-gary-rowett-8154661)
For the avoidance of doubt, Gary Rowett was, is, and always will be a mad Aston Villa fan, and so those saying he would never leave the club he supports couldn't be further off the mark.
I have seen this in a newspaper cutting posted as a photo on a Brum site from when he was 19 and signed for Everton from Cambridge, and there are quotes directly from Rowett himself.
He was born in Bromsgrove, and grew up supporting Villa, and continued to do so even when he moved to Isle of Wight, and then East Anglia.
FWIW he is now strong odds on with all the usual suspects, having moved from 8/11 to 1/3 with Skybet at 12.20pm.
Rowett claims here he was not a Villa fan just pictured in a Villa shirt while living in the Isle of Wight
Yep, just read that, and can summise one of two things.
Either he was lying in the quotes that I have seen in the newspaper cutting, where there was definitely no doubt about his passion for Villa, or he is just playing it down in the Birmingham Mail article for obvious reasons :005:
Quote from: alexmur on November 25, 2015, 03:09:51 PM
I wonder if we will have a decision before the weekend
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Quote from: NogoodBoyo on November 25, 2015, 12:54:35 PMQuote from: filham on November 25, 2015, 10:10:30 AMQuote from: mikestrand on November 25, 2015, 09:33:48 AMQuote from: snarks on November 25, 2015, 09:19:36 AMincredibly poor decision to ignore him as caretaker.
Regardless of who the Club chooses as a new Head Coach, there is a definate need for an interim. From watching the team on Saturday, Peter Grant didn't cut it, at all. I would say give it to Curbs, despite the seeming hostility to his long term appointment, there needs to be someone in charge.
Curbs has the experience, and iI would say the presence to do it. Either him or Scotty P, but only as an interim position.
Maybe he didn't want it.
You would have expected Curbs as caretaker to have been announced at the same time as Kit's sacking.
But then the whole business of Curbs at the Cottage is clouded in mystery, it has never been made clear what his duties and responsibilities are.
I've said it before, but it does bear repetition. After Kit's sacking, Curbs openly challenged the judgement/decision-making of our Chair, Board and Director of Football (or whatever Rigg is called) in stating that clubs constantly make the mistake now of sacking managers before they've been given a chance to succeed.
Such disloyalty is hardly likely to have left Curbs with any support in the club's hierarchy.
His days must be numbered.
Nogood "don't openly question the management if you want to join the management, isit" Boyo
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on November 25, 2015, 03:46:38 PMif top six is our target for this season don't think we can afford to go too many games rudderless. let's all hope it's this weekend. I might even go down the local church and light a candle lolQuote from: alexmur on November 25, 2015, 03:09:51 PM
I wonder if we will have a decision before the weekend
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I sure hope that if he's an identified target that the club will work their behinds off to get him in before the next match. Would definitely be nice to have this all settled.
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on November 25, 2015, 03:53:49 PMExactly the sort of problem I would like us to have!Quote from: NogoodBoyo on November 25, 2015, 12:54:35 PMQuote from: filham on November 25, 2015, 10:10:30 AMQuote from: mikestrand on November 25, 2015, 09:33:48 AMQuote from: snarks on November 25, 2015, 09:19:36 AMincredibly poor decision to ignore him as caretaker.
Regardless of who the Club chooses as a new Head Coach, there is a definate need for an interim. From watching the team on Saturday, Peter Grant didn't cut it, at all. I would say give it to Curbs, despite the seeming hostility to his long term appointment, there needs to be someone in charge.
Curbs has the experience, and iI would say the presence to do it. Either him or Scotty P, but only as an interim position.
Maybe he didn't want it.
You would have expected Curbs as caretaker to have been announced at the same time as Kit's sacking.
But then the whole business of Curbs at the Cottage is clouded in mystery, it has never been made clear what his duties and responsibilities are.
I've said it before, but it does bear repetition. After Kit's sacking, Curbs openly challenged the judgement/decision-making of our Chair, Board and Director of Football (or whatever Rigg is called) in stating that clubs constantly make the mistake now of sacking managers before they've been given a chance to succeed.
Such disloyalty is hardly likely to have left Curbs with any support in the club's hierarchy.
His days must be numbered.
Nogood "don't openly question the management if you want to join the management, isit" Boyo
Also, if the club has already decided that they do not want Curbs as manage and then let him be the caretaker, then what do they do if the team strings out several results. They'll have created a problem for themselves unnecessarily. Better to have someone there like Grant who is loyal to the club (not saying that anyone else hasn't been) and who is willing to go back to what they were doing previously.
Quote from: copthornemike on November 25, 2015, 06:49:16 PM
A long shot - and one which many many may disagree with but this is a discussion forum after all.
I can see Neil Lennon being released by Bolton before long, or Bolton being amenable to letting him go so they do not have to pay the remaining two years of his contract.
He did a decent job last year turning Bolton around but they are struggling very badly now for for financial reasons as much as anything else having to let their better players (including Tim Ream) leave.
Is Lennon the type of manager who could kick start a revival for us?
Quote from: tommy on November 25, 2015, 10:27:15 PMAre you feckin joking a rubbish negative player i dont want him any where near ffc
Let's just go and get him. He'll be cheap (Kahn would be happy). He's got heart, passion and knows how to get the job done. Plus he'll actually take the job.
Quote from: westcliff white on November 25, 2015, 07:11:24 PMWhilst I was surprised that Reading allowed us to approach Clarke the club had been on a losing run since they played us so the Thai owners might have been prepared to allow him to leave provided they could get some compensation. Overall Clarke has come out of the saga quite poorly and has to regain the trust of the owners and fans. If they go on another poor run (they only beat poorly Bolton at home at the weekend) it is easy to see him becoming a casualty.
Lennon a big no, he has found it so difficult in a league which is very competitive.
as a side not Rowett is also second favourite for the QPR job now, big movement for both us and them on his betting
Quote from: David Allen Crankshaw on November 26, 2015, 06:10:52 AM
Sacked by Huddersfield and Birmingham before moving on to Blackpool who were then relegated. No thanks!
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on November 25, 2015, 07:02:41 PMif I was I'd have the deal done by now hahahaQuote from: copthornemike on November 25, 2015, 06:49:16 PM
A long shot - and one which many many may disagree with but this is a discussion forum after all.
I can see Neil Lennon being released by Bolton before long, or Bolton being amenable to letting him go so they do not have to pay the remaining two years of his contract.
He did a decent job last year turning Bolton around but they are struggling very badly now for for financial reasons as much as anything else having to let their better players (including Tim Ream) leave.
Is Lennon the type of manager who could kick start a revival for us?
Not a bad shout,he was on my short list before Kit was given the job.
Alexmur are you Moyes agent?!!
Quote from: Neil D on November 26, 2015, 08:48:41 AM
We need to write this season off in terms of promotion and look abroad. How many of us had heard of Oscar Garcia or Slavisa Jokanovic? Yet both of these adapted quickly and either would be assets for FFC (Garcia has health issues, I know). There must be others like them out there - better options than dredging around the Football League for re-treads.
Quote from: David Allen Crankshaw on November 26, 2015, 06:10:52 AMBit harsh the Blackpool job, he took as it was a job and he admitted he did it just to keep his name in the picture of being a manager.
Sacked by Huddersfield and Birmingham before moving on to Blackpool who were then relegated. No thanks!
Quote from: MJG on November 26, 2015, 10:15:08 AMQuote from: David Allen Crankshaw on November 26, 2015, 06:10:52 AMBit harsh the Blackpool job, he took as it was a job and he admitted he did it just to keep his name in the picture of being a manager.
Sacked by Huddersfield and Birmingham before moving on to Blackpool who were then relegated. No thanks!
Anyone who took that was on a loser. He was doing ok at Huddersfied and had mixed results at Birmingham.
My issue is there are too many off field stories from Huddersfield and Birmingham that make me think hes not right man for us.
But I loved him as a player and he enjoyed his time at the club.
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on November 26, 2015, 10:52:45 AMQuote from: MJG on November 26, 2015, 10:15:08 AMQuote from: David Allen Crankshaw on November 26, 2015, 06:10:52 AMBit harsh the Blackpool job, he took as it was a job and he admitted he did it just to keep his name in the picture of being a manager.
Sacked by Huddersfield and Birmingham before moving on to Blackpool who were then relegated. No thanks!
Anyone who took that was on a loser. He was doing ok at Huddersfied and had mixed results at Birmingham.
My issue is there are too many off field stories from Huddersfield and Birmingham that make me think hes not right man for us.
But I loved him as a player and he enjoyed his time at the club.
Agree with all of that and as I've been warned about swearing on here before all I will say to the previous poster who described him as a "rubbish negative player"
Mate you're either on a wind up or genuinely aint got a clue
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on November 26, 2015, 12:59:15 PMRowett has bee 3/1 on all this week, so no major movement. He has however come in significantly since Saturday for the QPR job.
In regard speculation, Gary Rowett says he is 'incredibly focused on the job in hand here' and 'there is nothing (else) to talk about' #BCFC
Quote from: Tom_FFC on November 26, 2015, 12:45:17 PM
Just reading the Wiki page for Gary Rowett, when he moved to Birmingham he brought 3 of the backroom staff from Burton with him.
"He was joined at Birmingham by Burton backroom staff members Kevin Summerfield as assistant manager, Mark Sale as first-team coach and Poole as goalkeeping coach."
Could it prove to be a sticking point as it has also been suggested with Pearson? (If he wants to bring them of course)
Quote from: Horsfield_No9 on November 26, 2015, 02:02:22 PM
He was never coming. Pure bookies speculation with not a single reliable source linking him. Move on everyone.
Quote from: Horsfield_No9 on November 26, 2015, 02:02:22 PM
He was never coming. Pure bookies speculation with not a single reliable source linking him. Move on everyone.
Quote from: MJG on November 26, 2015, 02:50:05 PM
But at least Grant is now officially Caretaker Head Coach...that's a positive move at least
or not?
Quote from: mkras99 on November 26, 2015, 04:07:08 PM
http://www.footballinsider247.com/exclusive/fulham-manager-latest-club-make-gary-rowett-approach-and-have-back-up-candidate-sources (http://www.footballinsider247.com/exclusive/fulham-manager-latest-club-make-gary-rowett-approach-and-have-back-up-candidate-sources)
Quote from: MJG on November 26, 2015, 02:50:05 PMLaughable isn't it the extent they will go to justify their new structure.
But at least Grant is now officially Caretaker Head Coach...that's a positive move at least
or not?
Quote from: alexmur on November 26, 2015, 05:01:19 PM
how do we feel about malky macay
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Quote from: BestOfBrede on November 26, 2015, 09:14:42 PMI would rather joan collins than lee clarke as manager
I love Lee Clark but as manager I'm not sure.
I think if we were to take further risks I'd rather John Collins than Lee.
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on November 26, 2015, 10:30:50 PM
So you posters who don't want Rowett, who do you want that could be available? Please, please give sensible reply's, not Tigana, Lee or Wharburton.
Quote from: Chutney on November 27, 2015, 08:18:13 AMWhy haven't we made a good offer to JFH - must be as good as any of those who have been seriously considered.
Rowett is the reason JFH is doing so well at Burton, he would be brilliant for us
Quote from: Tempest on November 27, 2015, 11:17:23 AMYes they do. The game and running of a club is too big for a 'manager' he cant oversee all the football aspects like they used. And frankly I don't want them to either. A team should not be built on the whim of one man anymore. Their time as the manager of a club is getting shorter and shorter and once they move on you are left with their legacy.
Do Head COaches work here? Can't think of a HC that has really worked out well. Am I old fashioned or should it be a CHairman to oversee the club in all aspects other than football related matters and a manager to manage the football aspects?
Managing by stats or having people like Mike Rigg involved with signings (apparently) is just wrong. As someone once said, football is a simple game.........it still is but people like Rigg and others over complicate it.
Quote from: MJG on November 27, 2015, 11:37:21 AMQuote from: Tempest on November 27, 2015, 11:17:23 AMYes they do. The game and running of a club is too big for a 'manager' he cant oversee all the football aspects like they used. And frankly I don't want them to either. A team should not be built on the whim of one man anymore. Their time as the manager of a club is getting shorter and shorter and once they move on you are left with their legacy.
Do Head COaches work here? Can't think of a HC that has really worked out well. Am I old fashioned or should it be a CHairman to oversee the club in all aspects other than football related matters and a manager to manage the football aspects?
Managing by stats or having people like Mike Rigg involved with signings (apparently) is just wrong. As someone once said, football is a simple game.........it still is but people like Rigg and others over complicate it.
Its needs to be a collaborative effort by all involved, but that's not to say a coach should have players dumped on them or that they don't request certain players.
Jokanovic for example is a coach who just gets on with working with the players. he has seemingly no interest in the bigger picture of the buying and selling of players.
Quote from: Chutney on November 27, 2015, 08:18:13 AM
Rowett is the reason JFH is doing so well at Burton, he would be brilliant for us
Quote from: HV71 on November 27, 2015, 11:58:27 AMQuote from: MJG on November 27, 2015, 11:37:21 AMQuote from: Tempest on November 27, 2015, 11:17:23 AMYes they do. The game and running of a club is too big for a 'manager' he cant oversee all the football aspects like they used. And frankly I don't want them to either. A team should not be built on the whim of one man anymore. Their time as the manager of a club is getting shorter and shorter and once they move on you are left with their legacy.
Do Head COaches work here? Can't think of a HC that has really worked out well. Am I old fashioned or should it be a CHairman to oversee the club in all aspects other than football related matters and a manager to manage the football aspects?
Managing by stats or having people like Mike Rigg involved with signings (apparently) is just wrong. As someone once said, football is a simple game.........it still is but people like Rigg and others over complicate it.
Its needs to be a collaborative effort by all involved, but that's not to say a coach should have players dumped on them or that they don't request certain players.
Jokanovic for example is a coach who just gets on with working with the players. he has seemingly no interest in the bigger picture of the buying and selling of players.
Spot on MJG - it simply has to be a more collaborative effort these days. The amounts of money involved, even for a smaller club like ours, are so huge that a dictatorial manager could ' bet the business " and ruin the club ( especially with a rich but novice football owner ). People like Jokanovic have adapted to the new world and have proved that it can still be effective .
Quote from: Oakeshott on November 27, 2015, 11:37:04 AMGot mine from odds checker this morning, still the same now
Westcliffe White
Rowett currently 5/2 (in traditional odds) on Betfair, followed by Pearson (11/2), Smith (6/1) and Warburton (13/2).
Quote from: BedsFFC on November 27, 2015, 01:37:14 PM
I had thought that maybe we were waiting for Black Friday for a better deal. Appears not.
Quote from: Neil D on November 27, 2015, 01:02:42 PMin Italy you have the Allenatore, which translate as coach, and the Direttore Sportivo which translates as Sporting Director.......Ranieri, Mourinho, Trapattoni etc. were all allenatori...
The head coach / director of football division makes theoretical sense but how does it work in practice. If a head coach decides to play in a certain way, then he will need the players to reflect this. There's no point in the director saying I've just signed a Billy Bremner when the coach wanted a Jim Baxter. So, who decides the style of play?
Quote from: gerrys on November 27, 2015, 02:00:58 PMI'm sure that's true, Gerry, but who decides how the team plays? If it's the coach, then does he say to the director I need an attacking midfielder or a holding one etc. Get me one. Or is it the other way round? Here is a holding midfielder I bought for you. Now choose tactics to suit.Quote from: Neil D on November 27, 2015, 01:02:42 PMin Italy you have the Allenatore, which translate as coach, and the Direttore Sportivo which translates as Sporting Director.......Ranieri, Mourinho, Trapattoni etc. were all allenatori...
The head coach / director of football division makes theoretical sense but how does it work in practice. If a head coach decides to play in a certain way, then he will need the players to reflect this. There's no point in the director saying I've just signed a Billy Bremner when the coach wanted a Jim Baxter. So, who decides the style of play?
Quote from: Oakeshott on November 27, 2015, 01:56:27 PMI have check don the following sites just now and Sky Bet and Ladbrokes have him at 1/5, Paddy Power have him at 1/6
Westcliffe White
Indeed, but as regards Betfair at least, Oddschecker is wrong. (Rowett now 3.0 on Betfair, or approx. 2/1 in conventional odds.)
Quote from: mkras99 on November 27, 2015, 03:15:22 PM
From Wayne Veysey
@footyinsider247: We hear there has been another twist in Fulham manager pursuit. Stay tuned. https://t.co/iALBSUhVpf
Quote from: mkras99 on November 27, 2015, 03:15:22 PM
From Wayne Veysey
@footyinsider247: We hear there has been another twist in Fulham manager pursuit. Stay tuned. https://t.co/iALBSUhVpf
Quote from: mkras99 on November 27, 2015, 03:15:22 PMDon't hold your breath. Veysey is not reliable.
From Wayne Veysey
@footyinsider247: We hear there has been another twist in Fulham manager pursuit. Stay tuned. https://t.co/iALBSUhVpf
Quote from: Oakeshott on November 27, 2015, 04:07:54 PMAgree if you think its Rowett lump on at Betfair.
Westcliffe White
Yes, thin market and moved by relatively small sums.
But the odds make a hell of a difference if one wants to back Rowett. If he is appointed, £20 less commision won per £10 staked, compared with £2 or so per £10 with the conventional bookies.
Quote from: Horsfield_No9 on November 27, 2015, 05:10:53 PM
Is this why money has suddenly gone on Warburton?
He certainly aint leaving Rangers for us especially not as 4th choice.
Quote from: Jono on November 27, 2015, 05:18:54 PMQuote from: Horsfield_No9 on November 27, 2015, 05:10:53 PM
Is this why money has suddenly gone on Warburton?
He certainly aint leaving Rangers for us especially not as 4th choice.
How about we just fast forward to the point where Warburton turns us down, to save us having to wait until Tuesday?
Quote from: Fulham76 on November 27, 2015, 05:20:16 PMQuote from: Jono on November 27, 2015, 05:18:54 PMQuote from: Horsfield_No9 on November 27, 2015, 05:10:53 PM
Is this why money has suddenly gone on Warburton?
He certainly aint leaving Rangers for us especially not as 4th choice.
How about we just fast forward to the point where Warburton turns us down, to save us having to wait until Tuesday?
:plus one:
Quote from: rusty shackleford on November 27, 2015, 05:24:03 PM
Is there anywhere us regular joes can apply? Must have a decent shout at this stage?
Quote from: Ordar on November 27, 2015, 05:30:45 PM
You have to admit, this is pretty funny now.
Only Curbs, Clark and Pearce are interested in the job. And I wouldn't want any of those....
I don't know where we go from here. I can't see us eventually getting anyone good now, unless we throw big money at someone. We'll probably end up with Ramsey....or even worse Carver
Quote from: f321ffc on November 27, 2015, 05:34:07 PM
Next one on the list , Paul Tisdale.
(http://www.westernmorningnews.co.uk/images/localworld/ugc-images/276272/Article/images/19644581/5162699.jpg)
Quote from: Horsfield_No9 on November 27, 2015, 05:41:26 PMQuote from: f321ffc on November 27, 2015, 05:34:07 PM
Next one on the list , Paul Tisdale.
(http://www.westernmorningnews.co.uk/images/localworld/ugc-images/276272/Article/images/19644581/5162699.jpg)
He's a snappy dresser. Never seen that much colour on a manager.
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on November 27, 2015, 05:49:16 PM
I know many of you will not be interested but any news on the new QPR manager, or are they working down the same list as us and in the same queue, behind us?
Quote from: f321ffc on November 27, 2015, 05:59:24 PM
From Twitter @footyinsider247
"Fulham's pursuit of Gary Rowett has hit a snag over a legal issue with talks on the verge of breaking down, Football Insider sources understand.
Rowett emerged as the Londoners' No1 choice to replace Kit Symons after their failed pursuit of Reading's Steve Clarke and former Leicester boss Nigel Pearson.
But a Fulham source has told Football Insider that discussions with the Birmingham manager have not progressed as smoothly as hoped due to a legal issue surrounding his release from the Midlands club.
It is the latest twist in what has been a fraught pursuit of a replacement for Symons, who was sacked at the start of the month"
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Quote from: westcliff white on November 27, 2015, 05:46:18 PM
MOyes wants time off till January and wants premier league, he said it in an interview a week or so ago
Quote from: Domino1879 on November 27, 2015, 06:11:05 PMwould be a good challenge for him for sure, however we cannot wait till the end of Jan on the chance he may not get a job in the premQuote from: westcliff white on November 27, 2015, 05:46:18 PM
MOyes wants time off till January and wants premier league, he said it in an interview a week or so ago
Yes I know.
But January will be soon here and money talks.
Would be a good challenge for Moyes! Lol
Quote from: westcliff white on November 27, 2015, 06:19:28 PMQuote from: Domino1879 on November 27, 2015, 06:11:05 PMwould be a good challenge for him for sure, however we cannot wait till the end of Jan on the chance he may not get a job in the premQuote from: westcliff white on November 27, 2015, 05:46:18 PM
MOyes wants time off till January and wants premier league, he said it in an interview a week or so ago
Yes I know.
But January will be soon here and money talks.
Would be a good challenge for Moyes! Lol
Quote from: Buffalo76 on November 27, 2015, 06:35:07 PMAnd left us with an ageing squad with little to no investment during his last few years in order to recoup or even make a profit from the club.
Al Fayed never messed around like this.
Quote from: Alexis on November 27, 2015, 06:40:14 PMQuote from: Buffalo76 on November 27, 2015, 06:35:07 PMAnd left us with an ageing squad with little to no investment during his last few years in order to recoup or even make a profit from the club.
Al Fayed never messed around like this.
Quote from: Alexis on November 27, 2015, 06:40:14 PMQuote from: Buffalo76 on November 27, 2015, 06:35:07 PMAnd left us with an ageing squad with little to no investment during his last few years in order to recoup or even make a profit from the club.
Al Fayed never messed around like this.
Quote from: Buffalo76 on November 27, 2015, 07:20:58 PMQuote from: Alexis on November 27, 2015, 06:40:14 PMQuote from: Buffalo76 on November 27, 2015, 06:35:07 PMAnd left us with an ageing squad with little to no investment during his last few years in order to recoup or even make a profit from the club.
Al Fayed never messed around like this.
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Quote from: bobby01 on November 27, 2015, 08:12:39 PMhe broke even didn't he?Quote from: Buffalo76 on November 27, 2015, 07:20:58 PMQuote from: Alexis on November 27, 2015, 06:40:14 PMQuote from: Buffalo76 on November 27, 2015, 06:35:07 PMAnd left us with an ageing squad with little to no investment during his last few years in order to recoup or even make a profit from the club.
Al Fayed never messed around like this.
Whatever..... 1500.gif
I really can,t believe people criticise maf, he was brilliant for this club, if he wanted to get some of his money back good luck to him, we had more than he ever took back.
Quote from: bobby01 on November 27, 2015, 08:12:39 PMQuote from: Buffalo76 on November 27, 2015, 07:20:58 PMQuote from: Alexis on November 27, 2015, 06:40:14 PMQuote from: Buffalo76 on November 27, 2015, 06:35:07 PMAnd left us with an ageing squad with little to no investment during his last few years in order to recoup or even make a profit from the club.
Al Fayed never messed around like this.
Whatever..... 1500.gif
I really can,t believe people criticise maf, he was brilliant for this club, if he wanted to get some of his money back good luck to him, we had more than he ever took back.
Quote from: Alexis on November 27, 2015, 06:40:14 PMQuote from: Buffalo76And left us with an ageing squad with little to no investment during his last few years in order to recoup or even make a profit from the club.
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Al Fayed never messed around like this.
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on November 27, 2015, 08:39:52 PM
Rewatched Rigg's several video interviews. He says it is his job to challenge Symons or the manager. I don't think that is a director of football's job. He is adamant that he wants a manager to work under him.
What good manager/head coach is going to willingly subjugate to Rigg?
Rigg is someone who has made a career in football from offering very little. What has he ever won or achieved? What manager would want to work under that constraint?
Rigg has messed up majorily.
Quote from: Nero on November 27, 2015, 08:45:41 PM
Here hoping Swansea get stuffed 6- 0 this weekend and they sack Monk, he can turns us down then
Quote from: Alexis on November 27, 2015, 06:40:14 PMQuote from: Buffalo76 on November 27, 2015, 06:35:07 PMAnd left us with an ageing squad with little to no investment during his last few years in order to recoup or even make a profit from the club.
Al Fayed never messed around like this.
Quote from: Domino1879 on November 27, 2015, 05:45:40 PMyes
Just splash the cash and get Moyes and McKinley.
No compensation there.
Deal to end of season with big kicker for promotion.
Please?
Quote from: Oakeshott on November 28, 2015, 08:13:36 AM:plus one:
The cause of the decline we have experienced since the Club was sold is solely attributable to the poor judgements made by Khan - the delayed sacking of Jol, the brief experiment with Rene, the appointment of Magath (not least its timing), the criminal waste of money on the Greek and the otherwise lack of investment when we were in the Premiership, and his failure to recognise that, although Kit had steadied the ship, by the end of the 2014/15 season there was ample evidence for those with eyes to see that Kit was hugely limited and that a change was needed then if we were to have any serious chance of promotion in 2015/16. So far Khan has been disasterous as our owner - we can only hope he gets the next managerial appointment right.
Quote from: bobby01 on November 27, 2015, 08:12:39 PMplus 1Quote from: Buffalo76 on November 27, 2015, 07:20:58 PMQuote from: Alexis on November 27, 2015, 06:40:14 PMQuote from: Buffalo76 on November 27, 2015, 06:35:07 PMAnd left us with an ageing squad with little to no investment during his last few years in order to recoup or even make a profit from the club.
Al Fayed never messed around like this.
Whatever..... 1500.gif
I really can,t believe people criticise maf, he was brilliant for this club, if he wanted to get some of his money back good luck to him, we had more than he ever took back.
Quote from: Fulham76 on November 28, 2015, 01:29:06 AMThat's right, What MAF did for us puts him alongside Haynes as beyond any criticism.Quote from: Alexis on November 27, 2015, 06:40:14 PMQuote from: Buffalo76 on November 27, 2015, 06:35:07 PMAnd left us with an ageing squad with little to no investment during his last few years in order to recoup or even make a profit from the club.
Al Fayed never messed around like this.
Only a new, newish or no fan would make such a stupid comment. No respect for what Al Fayed did for us
Quote from: mike_corkcity12 on November 28, 2015, 11:36:40 AM
Al Fayed did everything a responsible owner should do. Cleared the debt while still provided for the team. It is a shame that Jol and Macintosh wasted the budget on high wages for stagnant players.
Think at this stage they will give it to Peter Grant.
Quote from: Fulham76 on November 28, 2015, 01:29:06 AMQuote from: Alexis on November 27, 2015, 06:40:14 PMQuote from: Buffalo76 on November 27, 2015, 06:35:07 PMAnd left us with an ageing squad with little to no investment during his last few years in order to recoup or even make a profit from the club.
Al Fayed never messed around like this.
Only a new, newish or no fan would make such a stupid comment. No respect for what Al Fayed did for us
Quote from: Logicalman on November 28, 2015, 04:11:03 PMQuote from: Fulham76 on November 28, 2015, 01:29:06 AMQuote from: Alexis on November 27, 2015, 06:40:14 PMQuote from: Buffalo76 on November 27, 2015, 06:35:07 PMAnd left us with an ageing squad with little to no investment during his last few years in order to recoup or even make a profit from the club.
Al Fayed never messed around like this.
Only a new, newish or no fan would make such a stupid comment. No respect for what Al Fayed did for us
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Quote from: SG on November 28, 2015, 05:37:25 PM
And nearly 80,000 views. They are awaiting 100,000 views before appointing someone. I knew there was some logic to the waiting
Quote from: SG on November 28, 2015, 05:37:25 PM
And nearly 80,000 views. They are awaiting 100,000 views before appointing someone. I knew there was some logic to the waiting
Quote from: f321ffc on November 19, 2015, 07:25:02 PMQuote from: Fulham Tup North on November 19, 2015, 07:18:53 PMI posted a few days ago about this thread reaching 50,000 page views before the new man is announced, at this rate we could make 100,000.
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More importantly, Riether Lightning 63, your almost at the magical 50,000 ! 049:gif
Quote from: f321ffc on November 28, 2015, 06:28:40 PMIt's the thread that keeps giving :)Quote from: f321ffc on November 19, 2015, 07:25:02 PMQuote from: Fulham Tup North on November 19, 2015, 07:18:53 PMI posted a few days ago about this thread reaching 50,000 page views before the new man is announced, at this rate we could make 100,000.
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More importantly, Riether Lightning 63, your almost at the magical 50,000 ! 049:gif
Bloody hell i was only joking when i mad that reply, god i hope i was wrong. 090.gif
Quote from: Logicalman on November 28, 2015, 04:11:03 PMQuote from: Fulham76 on November 28, 2015, 01:29:06 AMQuote from: Alexis on November 27, 2015, 06:40:14 PMQuote from: Buffalo76 on November 27, 2015, 06:35:07 PMAnd left us with an ageing squad with little to no investment during his last few years in order to recoup or even make a profit from the club.
Al Fayed never messed around like this.
Only a new, newish or no fan would make such a stupid comment. No respect for what Al Fayed did for us
STOP THE ABUSE!! 063.gif
Quote from: Riether Lightning 63 on November 28, 2015, 05:40:59 PMI didn't realise F5 did that. Thank you for one of the more profound contributions to this thread. Mine included. Including this one. I'll fetch my coat.Quote from: SG on November 28, 2015, 05:37:25 PM
And nearly 80,000 views. They are awaiting 100,000 views before appointing someone. I knew there was some logic to the waiting
Then for god sake keep pressing F5 and refresh the page
Quote from: Fulham76 on November 28, 2015, 07:53:44 PMHere's another way of saying what you said in your earlier post but in more measured terms. 'Such a view reflects a very short-term assessment of MAF's role at the Club and does a disservice to the contribution he made by taking us from the equivalent of League One to the Premier League and the Europa League final.'Quote from: Logicalman on November 28, 2015, 04:11:03 PMQuote from: Fulham76 on November 28, 2015, 01:29:06 AMQuote from: Alexis on November 27, 2015, 06:40:14 PMQuote from: Buffalo76 on November 27, 2015, 06:35:07 PMAnd left us with an ageing squad with little to no investment during his last few years in order to recoup or even make a profit from the club.
Al Fayed never messed around like this.
Only a new, newish or no fan would make such a stupid comment. No respect for what Al Fayed did for us
STOP THE ABUSE!! 063.gif
Only just noticed this... Other posts calling people cocks, mugs, pricks tonight & I get a warning for this, capital letters too, (how old are you?) - WHAT A JOKE!
Quote from: Fulham76 on November 28, 2015, 07:53:44 PMAny one saying those words w9uld get a private message and a warning, personally not seen that myself on a post but I know myself and the other mods take it very seriouslyQuote from: Logicalman on November 28, 2015, 04:11:03 PMQuote from: Fulham76 on November 28, 2015, 01:29:06 AMQuote from: Alexis on November 27, 2015, 06:40:14 PMQuote from: Buffalo76 on November 27, 2015, 06:35:07 PMAnd left us with an ageing squad with little to no investment during his last few years in order to recoup or even make a profit from the club.
Al Fayed never messed around like this.
Only a new, newish or no fan would make such a stupid comment. No respect for what Al Fayed did for us
STOP THE ABUSE!! 063.gif
Only just noticed this... Other posts calling people cocks, mugs, pricks tonight & I get a warning for this, capital letters too, (how old are you?) - WHAT A JOKE!
Quote from: Oakeshott on November 28, 2015, 08:47:05 PM
If it is the case that Rigg and the CEO are in Holland, it might explain the small amounts of money bet on Betfair on two Dutch managers: Fred Rutten and Ron Jans. There are other Dutch folk in the Betfair next Fulham manager market but unlike the two mentioned above no money seems to have been placed on them.
Quote from: Neil D on November 28, 2015, 08:44:03 PMQuote from: Fulham76 on November 28, 2015, 07:53:44 PMHere's another way of saying what you said in your earlier post but in more measured terms. 'Such a view reflects a very short-term assessment of MAF's role at the Club and does a service to the contribution he made by taking us from the equivalent of League One to the Premier League and the Europa League final.'Quote from: Logicalman on November 28, 2015, 04:11:03 PMQuote from: Fulham76 on November 28, 2015, 01:29:06 AMQuote from: Alexis on November 27, 2015, 06:40:14 PMQuote from: Buffalo76 on November 27, 2015, 06:35:07 PMAnd left us with an ageing squad with little to no investment during his last few years in order to recoup or even make a profit from the club.
Al Fayed never messed around like this.
Only a new, newish or no fan would make such a stupid comment. No respect for what Al Fayed did for us
STOP THE ABUSE!! 063.gif
Only just noticed this... Other posts calling people cocks, mugs, pricks tonight & I get a warning for this, capital letters too, (how old are you?) - WHAT A JOKE!
Quote from: Fulham76 on November 28, 2015, 09:39:41 PMSlagging off some pillock on another thread...
Much better. Where were you last night when I was trying to say exactly what you just said?
Quote from: westcliff white on November 28, 2015, 08:46:15 PMQuote from: Fulham76 on November 28, 2015, 07:53:44 PMAny one saying those words w9uld get a private message and a warning, personally not seen that myself on a post but I know myself and the other mods take it very seriouslyQuote from: Logicalman on November 28, 2015, 04:11:03 PMQuote from: Fulham76 on November 28, 2015, 01:29:06 AMQuote from: Alexis on November 27, 2015, 06:40:14 PMQuote from: Buffalo76 on November 27, 2015, 06:35:07 PMAnd left us with an ageing squad with little to no investment during his last few years in order to recoup or even make a profit from the club.
Al Fayed never messed around like this.
Only a new, newish or no fan would make such a stupid comment. No respect for what Al Fayed did for us
STOP THE ABUSE!! 063.gif
Only just noticed this... Other posts calling people cocks, mugs, pricks tonight & I get a warning for this, capital letters too, (how old are you?) - WHAT A JOKE!
Quote from: Neil D on November 28, 2015, 09:53:05 PMQuote from: Fulham76 on November 28, 2015, 09:39:41 PMSlagging off some pillock on another thread...
Much better. Where were you last night when I was trying to say exactly what you just said?
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on November 29, 2015, 12:30:23 AMlol, maybe a visit to a cafe and some windows shopping too.Quote from: Fulham76 on November 28, 2015, 08:01:51 PM
I hear Rigg & Mcintosh took a trip to Holland today, wonder who they could be after now?
A Windmill and a pair of clogs each.
Quote from: Neil D on November 29, 2015, 10:13:21 AM
The fact that this monster thread is off the front page (or was until this post) shows that even we have got bored by the wretched, meandering saga of ineptitude.
Quote from: cmg on November 29, 2015, 10:22:42 AMQuote from: Neil D on November 29, 2015, 10:13:21 AM
The fact that this monster thread is off the front page (or was until this post) shows that even we have got bored by the wretched, meandering saga of ineptitude.
Probably. Although I'm not sure if you are referring to our managerial quest or the quality of the postings.
Quote from: cmg on November 29, 2015, 10:22:42 AMI would never disrespect the sterling contributions of my fellow posters.Quote from: Neil D on November 29, 2015, 10:13:21 AM
The fact that this monster thread is off the front page (or was until this post) shows that even we have got bored by the wretched, meandering saga of ineptitude.
Probably. Although I'm not sure if you are referring to our managerial quest or the quality of the postings.
Quote from: Neil D on November 29, 2015, 10:41:51 AMQuote from: cmg on November 29, 2015, 10:22:42 AMI would never disrespect the sterling contributions of my fellow posters.Quote from: Neil D on November 29, 2015, 10:13:21 AM
The fact that this monster thread is off the front page (or was until this post) shows that even we have got bored by the wretched, meandering saga of ineptitude.
Probably. Although I'm not sure if you are referring to our managerial quest or the quality of the postings.
Quote from: cmg on November 29, 2015, 01:28:45 PMQuote from: Neil D on November 29, 2015, 10:41:51 AMQuote from: cmg on November 29, 2015, 10:22:42 AMI would never disrespect the sterling contributions of my fellow posters.Quote from: Neil D on November 29, 2015, 10:13:21 AM
The fact that this monster thread is off the front page (or was until this post) shows that even we have got bored by the wretched, meandering saga of ineptitude.
Probably. Although I'm not sure if you are referring to our managerial quest or the quality of the postings.
Jolly glad to hear it. :54: Me neither.
(Ooops. Excuse me for a moment. I must sit down in this bucket of water. My underwear seems to have spontaneously combusted.)
Incidentally, I think you have hit on the ideal title for when the history of the past few years of Fulham FC comes to be written.
Part I - 'The Great Escape'
Part II - 'The Road To Hamburg'
Part III - 'The Meandering Saga Of Ineptitude'
Quote from: cmg on November 29, 2015, 01:28:45 PMI generously waive my copyright but I don't see the Club using it, somehow.
Incidentally, I think you have hit on the ideal title for when the history of the past few years of Fulham FC comes to be written.
Part I - 'The Great Escape'
Part II - 'The Road To Hamburg'
Part III - 'The Meandering Saga Of Ineptitude'
Quote from: NogoodBoyo on November 28, 2015, 05:17:12 PM
Huw Jennings and Steve Wigley to sort out the management in the mire that is Fulham.
Nogood "Sun headline leading to odds on Wigley, isit" Boyo
Quote from: spikey norman on November 29, 2015, 06:21:11 PMGlad he did then, we want a coach to improve what we already have not go out and buy another new team like Redknapp
The People reporting today that one of of the factors why Clarke turned us down was the possibility of us having a transfer embargoe and not being able to strengthen in January.
Could well put off other targets we go after.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on November 29, 2015, 08:17:07 PMQuote from: @jolslover on November 29, 2015, 06:47:50 PM
Di Canio anyone? Certainly passionate and would get the lads fired up.
Indeed, but he is also a corner flag short of a football pitch, and I would err on the side of caution.
Quote from: leonffc on November 29, 2015, 09:13:12 PMstop sitting on the fence and tell us what you really think
If that idiot is still in charge for the Brentford game I'll stay at home. I'm not travelling to see a team put out by that p****
Quote from: fulhamben on November 29, 2015, 09:14:53 PMQuote from: leonffc on November 29, 2015, 09:13:12 PMstop sitting on the fence and tell us what you really think
If that idiot is still in charge for the Brentford game I'll stay at home. I'm not travelling to see a team put out by that p****
Quote from: @jolslover on November 29, 2015, 06:47:50 PM
Di Canio anyone? Certainly passionate and would get the lads fired up.
Quote from: leonffc on November 29, 2015, 09:45:44 PMlol, a 5 min ride to Brentford should be easy thenQuote from: fulhamben on November 29, 2015, 09:14:53 PMQuote from: leonffc on November 29, 2015, 09:13:12 PMstop sitting on the fence and tell us what you really think
If that idiot is still in charge for the Brentford game I'll stay at home. I'm not travelling to see a team put out by that p****
Unfortunately I have to sit on the train to watch what he puts out at Nottingham. The fence is the easy bit
Quote from: fulhamben on November 29, 2015, 09:57:39 PMSorry Ben, you must be drinking something a little bit stronger than me tonight and what I am on is 50% proof! Another few weeks of more of the same by our Club and I will be going back to meths!!Quote from: leonffc on November 29, 2015, 09:45:44 PMlol, a 5 min ride to Brentford should be easy thenQuote from: fulhamben on November 29, 2015, 09:14:53 PMQuote from: leonffc on November 29, 2015, 09:13:12 PMstop sitting on the fence and tell us what you really think
If that idiot is still in charge for the Brentford game I'll stay at home. I'm not travelling to see a team put out by that p****
Unfortunately I have to sit on the train to watch what he puts out at Nottingham. The fence is the easy bit
We are gonna stuff them
Quote from: davew on November 29, 2015, 10:00:04 PMpetrols cheaper and just as strongQuote from: fulhamben on November 29, 2015, 09:57:39 PMSorry Ben, you must be drinking something a little bit stronger than me tonight and what I am on is 50% proof! Another few weeks of more of the same by our Club and I will be going back to meths!!Quote from: leonffc on November 29, 2015, 09:45:44 PMlol, a 5 min ride to Brentford should be easy thenQuote from: fulhamben on November 29, 2015, 09:14:53 PMQuote from: leonffc on November 29, 2015, 09:13:12 PMstop sitting on the fence and tell us what you really think
If that idiot is still in charge for the Brentford game I'll stay at home. I'm not travelling to see a team put out by that p****
Unfortunately I have to sit on the train to watch what he puts out at Nottingham. The fence is the easy bit
We are gonna stuff them
Quote from: fulhamben on November 29, 2015, 09:57:39 PMQuote from: leonffc on November 29, 2015, 09:45:44 PMlol, a 5 min ride to Brentford should be easy thenQuote from: fulhamben on November 29, 2015, 09:14:53 PMQuote from: leonffc on November 29, 2015, 09:13:12 PMstop sitting on the fence and tell us what you really think
If that idiot is still in charge for the Brentford game I'll stay at home. I'm not travelling to see a team put out by that p****
Unfortunately I have to sit on the train to watch what he puts out at Nottingham. The fence is the easy bit
We are gonna stuff them
Quote from: davew on November 29, 2015, 10:00:04 PMmaths in the madness called fulhm!!!Quote from: fulhamben on November 29, 2015, 09:57:39 PMSorry Ben, you must be drinking something a little bit stronger than me tonight and what I am on is 50% proof! Another few weeks of more of the same by our Club and I will be going back to meths!!Quote from: leonffc on November 29, 2015, 09:45:44 PMlol, a 5 min ride to Brentford should be easy thenQuote from: fulhamben on November 29, 2015, 09:14:53 PMQuote from: leonffc on November 29, 2015, 09:13:12 PMstop sitting on the fence and tell us what you really think
If that idiot is still in charge for the Brentford game I'll stay at home. I'm not travelling to see a team put out by that p****
Unfortunately I have to sit on the train to watch what he puts out at Nottingham. The fence is the easy bit
We are gonna stuff them
Quote from: cmg on November 29, 2015, 01:28:45 PMQuote from: Neil D on November 29, 2015, 10:41:51 AMQuote from: cmg on November 29, 2015, 10:22:42 AMI would never disrespect the sterling contributions of my fellow posters.Quote from: Neil D on November 29, 2015, 10:13:21 AM
The fact that this monster thread is off the front page (or was until this post) shows that even we have got bored by the wretched, meandering saga of ineptitude.
Probably. Although I'm not sure if you are referring to our managerial quest or the quality of the postings.
Jolly glad to hear it. :54: Me neither.
(Ooops. Excuse me for a moment. I must sit down in this bucket of water. My underwear seems to have spontaneously combusted.)
Incidentally, I think you have hit on the ideal title for when the history of the past few years of Fulham FC comes to be written.
Part I - 'The Great Escape'
Part II - 'The Road To Hamburg'
Part III - 'The Meandering Saga Of Ineptitude'
Quote from: fulhamben on November 29, 2015, 08:56:40 PM
Anyone who picks defenders in midfield will never get my vote. Especially as it flopped so badly the week before
Quote from: Ordar on November 30, 2015, 08:14:02 AM
From Sky:
@SkySportsNewsHQ: BREAKING: Birmingham say Gary Rowett remains as manager following recent speculation.
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Quote from: Twig on November 30, 2015, 08:01:52 AMGood job no manager ever decided to put Baird in midfield for an important European cup gameQuote from: fulhamben on November 29, 2015, 08:56:40 PM
Anyone who picks defenders in midfield will never get my vote. Especially as it flopped so badly the week before
Could not agree more.
Quote from: MJG on November 30, 2015, 10:25:48 AMQuote from: Twig on November 30, 2015, 08:01:52 AMGood job no manager ever decided to put Baird in midfield for an important European cup gameQuote from: fulhamben on November 29, 2015, 08:56:40 PM
Anyone who picks defenders in midfield will never get my vote. Especially as it flopped so badly the week before
Could not agree more.
Quote from: Wimbledon_White on November 29, 2015, 09:51:55 PM
Parker? Player Manager?
Quote from: west kowloon white on November 30, 2015, 01:21:07 PM
Apologies if covered on the previous 102 pages but find the vitriol ,from the usual,directed towards the club hierarchy unjustified ;in the case of both Clarke and Pearson it appears the club rebuffed them,rather than vice versa?
Quote from: Domino 1879 on November 30, 2015, 01:15:33 PM
I thought he left Brentford because he did not like the proposed management structure. Think that involved the creation of a Director of Football and his role was to be coaching and team selection.
Quote from: garyclashcityrocker on November 30, 2015, 02:22:11 PMYep he did say that I read it, but I do think the club were taking the signings away from the man in charge of the playing staff, which was another reason he left aside from the statistical background (which for me doesn't really translate into football)
Warburton's departure was about statistical modelling. He was Director Of Football at Brentford prior to becoming manager. Whilst DOF he worked with Uwe Rosler and defended the DOF /Team Manager
"Warburton stated that the much-maligned Sporting Director/director of football position can work in English football, saying though he "would row every other day" with manager Uwe Rösler, the pair never fell out and Rösler had the final say on team selection and signings." Is a direct quote. So he is au fait and happy with that type of set-up.
Would've been my choice going back to the summer when he first left the Bee's, so I'd love for this to happen - but can't see it. I hope I'm wrong though.
Quote from: Burt on November 30, 2015, 01:35:59 PM
Just checked on one of the main Gers boards and there is nothing on this...
Quote from: Ordar on November 30, 2015, 03:02:45 PMwell Ali Mac and Rigg have had a right ole jolly in the dam. Maybe the rumours came from a conversation that was overheard in a certain cafe that started off with a discussion as to whether Han solo was an intagalatic drugs smuggler or not.
Lol so Rowett hadn't had any contact, and now Warburton hasn't had any contact from us. If both are true and not smokescreens, then what exactly have we been doing.
And where have the rumours come from
Quote from: Yonderwhite on November 30, 2015, 02:39:40 PM
...Or maybe we're waiting for Maclaren to be sacked, as appears somewhat inevitable at the moment...?
He would be an excellent appointment
Quote from: Yonderwhite on November 30, 2015, 02:39:40 PM
...Or maybe we're waiting for Maclaren to be sacked, as appears somewhat inevitable at the moment...?
He would be an excellent appointment
Quote from: Yonderwhite on November 30, 2015, 02:39:40 PMjudging by how we have approached people already I don't think we would wait for him to get the sack.
...Or maybe we're waiting for Maclaren to be sacked, as appears somewhat inevitable at the moment...?
He would be an excellent appointment
Quote from: alexmur on November 30, 2015, 03:53:36 PMQuote from: Yonderwhite on November 30, 2015, 02:39:40 PMjudging by how we have approached people already I don't think we would wait for him to get the sack.
...Or maybe we're waiting for Maclaren to be sacked, as appears somewhat inevitable at the moment...?
He would be an excellent appointment
I also hope it's not him
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Quote from: HamsterWheel on November 30, 2015, 04:08:43 PM
Dick Advocaat now 5-1 with SkyBet. Probably someone overheard someone at Fulham ordering a bottle of the tallow gunk for the Christmas Party.
Quote from: cmg on November 30, 2015, 04:24:30 PMQuote from: HamsterWheel on November 30, 2015, 04:08:43 PM
Dick Advocaat now 5-1 with SkyBet. Probably someone overheard someone at Fulham ordering a bottle of the tallow gunk for the Christmas Party.
Presumably that's 'tallow', as in 'Mellow Tallow', 'Tallow Submarine', 'Tallow Rose of Texas', etc?
Hilariously a whole dykefull of Woodenfoot managers has suddenly appeared on the Betfair market (Brood, Kluivert, Rutten, Jans, Plum) following the reported Dutch excursion.
Everybody really in the Manuel camp - 'I know..nuzzing.'
Quote from: Wearethewhites on November 30, 2015, 04:31:37 PM
Advocaat now 2/1 on Sky Bet.
Quote from: Wearethewhites on November 30, 2015, 04:31:37 PM
Advocaat now 2/1 on Sky Bet.
Quote from: Domino 1879 on November 30, 2015, 04:41:33 PMQuote from: Wearethewhites on November 30, 2015, 04:31:37 PM
Advocaat now 2/1 on Sky Bet.
Not a Snowballs chance
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on November 30, 2015, 04:44:56 PMQuote from: Domino 1879 on November 30, 2015, 04:41:33 PMVery good.Quote from: Wearethewhites on November 30, 2015, 04:31:37 PMNot a Snowballs chance
Advocaat now 2/1 on Sky Bet.
Perhaps the younger generation didn't get that one!
Quote from: alexmur on November 30, 2015, 04:41:40 PM
we should just give Bob Bradley a go at this stage
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Quote from: HV71 on November 30, 2015, 04:30:19 PM
My money's on Truck Van Rental ......
Quote from: sunburywhite on November 30, 2015, 04:54:43 PMQuote from: HV71 on November 30, 2015, 04:30:19 PM
My money's on Truck Van Rental ......
I hope he brings his brother Hertz
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on November 30, 2015, 03:11:02 PMQuote from: Yonderwhite on November 30, 2015, 02:39:40 PM
...Or maybe we're waiting for Maclaren to be sacked, as appears somewhat inevitable at the moment...?
He would be an excellent appointment
WHY??
Quote from: Yonderwhite on November 30, 2015, 05:08:41 PMQuote from: Steven Ageroad on November 30, 2015, 03:11:02 PMQuote from: Yonderwhite on November 30, 2015, 02:39:40 PMme too
...Or maybe we're waiting for Maclaren to be sacked, as appears somewhat inevitable at the moment...?
He would be an excellent appointment
WHY??
...Because of the job he did at Derby.
He was very unfortunate with injuries etc, without which they would have won automatic promotion.
Also unfortunate in bossing QPR in the play-off final and Zamora snatching an undeserved winner.
He can do a job in the Championship, especially with the quality of players we have.
Had most people been asked this summer, Maclaren would have been adjudged to be good enough to take over.
Newcastle is a toxic club, and something must be going wrong for him to be doing as badly as they are.
I'd happily take him any day.
Quote from: J.Perkins on November 30, 2015, 05:22:09 PM
Dick Advocaat has been cut to 2/1. Opinions?
Quote from: J.Perkins on November 30, 2015, 05:22:09 PMDick's out! Oh the good old days.
Dick Advocaat has been cut to 2/1. Opinions?
Quote from: Yonderwhite on November 30, 2015, 05:08:41 PMI agree with you on Newcastle being toxic they are definitely going downQuote from: Steven Ageroad on November 30, 2015, 03:11:02 PMQuote from: Yonderwhite on November 30, 2015, 02:39:40 PM
...Or maybe we're waiting for Maclaren to be sacked, as appears somewhat inevitable at the moment...?
He would be an excellent appointment
WHY??
...Because of the job he did at Derby.
He was very unfortunate with injuries etc, without which they would have won automatic promotion.
Also unfortunate in bossing QPR in the play-off final and Zamora snatching an undeserved winner.
He can do a job in the Championship, especially with the quality of players we have.
Had most people been asked this summer, Maclaren would have been adjudged to be good enough to take over.
Newcastle is a toxic club, and something must be going wrong for him to be doing as badly as they are.
I'd happily take him any day.
Quote from: Yonderwhite on November 30, 2015, 05:08:41 PMQuote from: Steven Ageroad on November 30, 2015, 03:11:02 PMQuote from: Yonderwhite on November 30, 2015, 02:39:40 PM
...Or maybe we're waiting for Maclaren to be sacked, as appears somewhat inevitable at the moment...?
He would be an excellent appointment
WHY??
...Because of the job he did at Derby.
He was very unfortunate with injuries etc, without which they would have won automatic promotion.
Also unfortunate in bossing QPR in the play-off final and Zamora snatching an undeserved winner.
He can do a job in the Championship, especially with the quality of players we have.
Had most people been asked this summer, Maclaren would have been adjudged to be good enough to take over.
Newcastle is a toxic club, and something must be going wrong for him to be doing as badly as they are.
I'd happily take him any day.
Quote from: filham on November 30, 2015, 06:29:02 PMThe way its going we might end up having to ask Danny Dyer.
I wonder how far we are down the initial short list and as people fall off are others being added. Will perhaps we soon get down to Danny Murphy.
Quote from: alexmur on November 30, 2015, 04:41:40 PM
we should just give Bob Bradley a go at this stage
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Quote from: Ordar on November 30, 2015, 05:41:47 PMQuote from: J.Perkins on November 30, 2015, 05:22:09 PM
Dick Advocaat has been cut to 2/1. Opinions?
Has he done anything of note over the past 10 years? Was terrible at Sunderland.
Quote from: Loz on November 30, 2015, 06:40:29 PMQuote from: Ordar on November 30, 2015, 05:41:47 PMQuote from: J.Perkins on November 30, 2015, 05:22:09 PM
Dick Advocaat has been cut to 2/1. Opinions?
Has he done anything of note over the past 10 years? Was terrible at Sunderland.
In the last ten years: Russian league title, Dutch league Runner-Up and cup finalist, automatic Euro-qualification for Russian national side, and keeping a poor Sunderland squad in the Premiership. That's a lot more than Rowett, Clarke, Pearson, Warburton etc can claim.
I think he'd be a great capture, befitting of the club ambition Khan promised us. Don't think it'll happen though.
Quote from: Jimmy Hill on November 30, 2015, 07:00:22 PM
Whilst on the subject of Dutch managers
Gus Hiddink is looking for work.
Quote from: Jimmy Hill on November 30, 2015, 07:00:22 PM
Whilst on the subject of Dutch managers
Gus Hiddink is looking for work.
Quote from: Thamesbank on November 30, 2015, 04:42:44 PM
Odd one this - I've heard mutterings before that he isn't particularly happy up North but as he doesn't seem to like interference in his team from above or stat based player selection can't see why would he come to us where both are likely to happen.
Anyways fingers crossed as would much prefer him to most of the others we've been linked with.
Quote from: Jimmy Hill on November 30, 2015, 07:10:12 PMdoesn't want to be a head coach or manager as he suffers from a stress disorder or something
van basten
Quote from: andersons11 on November 30, 2015, 12:49:19 PM
I think weve went this route with Kit.
Quote from: westcliff white on November 30, 2015, 09:07:14 PM
just like he did with sunderland
Quote from: Asotosyios on November 30, 2015, 09:20:13 PM
Even though I rate him, I don't want him. He is way too old and we will have to look for another manager again pretty soon.
Quote from: Riether Lightning 63 on November 30, 2015, 07:06:35 PMQuote from: Jimmy Hill on November 30, 2015, 07:00:22 PM
Whilst on the subject of Dutch managers
Gus Hiddink is looking for work.
So's Martin Jol
Quote from: Jimmy Hill on November 30, 2015, 07:10:12 PMVan Helsing - he's got a cross to bear
van basten
Quote from: J.Perkins on November 30, 2015, 09:40:46 PMHmm Advocaat - interesting, but I would advise warninks!
Advocaat could be a Hodgson or a Magath. Would I take the punt? Yeah.
Quote from: Max Headroom on November 30, 2015, 09:31:51 PM
Look Rigg flew to Holland allegedly so we are being linked with all and sundry Dutch.....
Quote from: Max Headroom on November 30, 2015, 09:31:51 PM
Look Rigg flew to Holland allegedly so we are being linked with all and sundry Dutch.....
Quote from: Burt on November 30, 2015, 09:35:24 PMQuote from: Asotosyios on November 30, 2015, 09:20:13 PM
Even though I rate him, I don't want him. He is way too old and we will have to look for another manager again pretty soon.
He is the same age as a certain Roy Hodgson and I don't hear many people grumbling about how old he is!
Age has nothing to do with ability...
My concern about Advocaat is that he averages a club every year or two. He doesn't stick around...
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on November 30, 2015, 11:04:52 PMhold on nobody said anything about the new guy waring a tie..... ties out!!
It matters not one iota who is suggested as a potential Manager, 20 people suddenly jump on here and explain why that individual should not be anywhere near our club? Whoever we get will be under it right away as people will be slagging him off for his line-up choice or his pre match interview or his choice of tie. Unless Jesus makes a 2nd appearance then who would want to come to us anyway? They would have to be mad.
Rant over.
COYW
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on November 30, 2015, 09:57:07 PM
Are we sure Rigg didnt visit Mr Henk Ten Cate
Quote from: Hoppus on November 30, 2015, 09:12:29 PMYour only ever as good as your last job for me. But they are some pretty nice honours until you look deeper.Quote from: westcliff white on November 30, 2015, 09:07:14 PM
just like he did with sunderland
I quote what 'Loze' wrote earlier today:
'In the last ten years: Russian league title, Dutch league Runner-Up and cup finalist, automatic Euro-qualification for Russian national side, and keeping a poor Sunderland squad in the Premiership. That's a lot more than Rowett, Clarke, Pearson, Warburton etc can claim.'
I would welcome him!
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on November 30, 2015, 11:04:52 PMPerhaps only the second coming of 'Roy' himself would silence the doubters... If only!
It matters not one iota who is suggested as a potential Manager, 20 people suddenly jump on here and explain why that individual should not be anywhere near our club? Whoever we get will be under it right away as people will be slagging him off for his line-up choice or his pre match interview or his choice of tie. Unless Jesus makes a 2nd appearance then who would want to come to us anyway? They would have to be mad.
Rant over.
COYW
Quote from: Adi-ffc on December 01, 2015, 10:05:06 AM
Anyone else heard rumours that Rigg flew to Israel, got a yes from Jokanovic, then went for Clarke impulsively?
If so, big big error from Rigg..
Quote from: Adi-ffc on December 01, 2015, 10:05:06 AMWhat's your source
Anyone else heard rumours that Rigg flew to Israel, got a yes from Jokanovic, then went for Clarke impulsively?
If so, big big error from Rigg..
Quote from: Adi-ffc on December 01, 2015, 10:53:32 AMdo you think that's Fallen through as well then
Not saying its true, heard it from a friend who works in the game.
Maybe it's bs, maybe not.
But I'd be very surprised if they hadn't approached him at all.
Just curious.
Quote from: mkras99 on December 01, 2015, 11:35:12 AM
@SkySportsLyall: #FulhamFC no closer to hiring a new head coach. Club have confirmed Peter Grant will take Thursday press conference #FFC.
Quote from: Ordar on December 01, 2015, 08:58:00 AM
23 days without a manager/head coach. We are now officially above the average time it normally takes
Quote from: Chutney on December 01, 2015, 11:27:09 AMwell said sir
I really hope we appoint someone good enough to make those criticizing the club think twice in future. Then maybe we can start supporting again....
Quote from: grandad on December 01, 2015, 12:31:55 PMhe is a great club man and I'd love to see him stay with us, as unlikely as it is.
Kit has just been on Sky Sports. Nice interview. He did not have a bad word to say about the Club. Sad that he was not given more time as everyone knew it would take time to mend the mess he inherited. He said he knew the target set & felt that he didn´t miss it by much but that´s football. Said the club need to appoint the right man as soon as possible.
Came out of the interview with dignity.
Quote from: NJFulham on December 01, 2015, 01:32:34 PM
Sarah Brookes just followed Warburton on Twitter.
Quote from: Horsfield_No9 on December 01, 2015, 01:33:40 PMQuote from: NJFulham on December 01, 2015, 01:32:34 PM
Sarah Brookes just followed Warburton on Twitter.
And Seedorf!!! Make of this what you will. Very interesting.
Quote from: west kowloon white on December 01, 2015, 01:59:24 PM
So Khan flies to London- perhaps something in the wind?
Wonder who will be first to post he should have been here earlier- one of three methinks.
Quote from: west kowloon white on December 01, 2015, 01:59:24 PM
So Khan flies to London- perhaps something in the wind?
Wonder who will be first to post he should have been here earlier- one of three methinks.
Quote from: Domino 1879 on December 01, 2015, 02:17:43 PMQuote from: west kowloon white on December 01, 2015, 01:59:24 PM
So Khan flies to London- perhaps something in the wind?
Wonder who will be first to post he should have been here earlier- one of three methinks.
Perhaps its more frustration that Rigg has not managed to find someone to fit his 'head coach' role?
I'd like Shahid Khan to take direct charge of things and bring in Moyes & McKinley.
No more messing about, just do it.
Quote from: Neil D on December 01, 2015, 01:59:00 PM
What happened to the Cherie Lunghi posts?
Quote from: f321ffc on December 01, 2015, 02:22:46 PMMooted and booted? Are you sure we're allowed to use the word 'mooted'? It's probably proscribed now.Quote from: Neil D on December 01, 2015, 01:59:00 PM
What happened to the Cherie Lunghi posts?
Looks like she was mooted but now she`s been booted off this thread.
Quote from: Chutney on December 01, 2015, 02:24:30 PMthat's what I was thinking surly he is on his way for the obligatory photo with the new guy holding a scarf or Jersey.
Khan would only fly over to finalise a deal, seems its imminent
Quote from: alexbishop on December 01, 2015, 02:21:53 PM
I'd like him to get Moyes/McKinley in and just be like "look guys, I own a massive yacht and I am filthy rich - I will pay you lots of money and anything I can't pay you due to FFFP, I will make up to you by lending you my yacht"
Quote from: Ordar on December 01, 2015, 02:51:39 PMQuote from: alexbishop on December 01, 2015, 02:21:53 PM
I'd like him to get Moyes/McKinley in and just be like "look guys, I own a massive yacht and I am filthy rich - I will pay you lots of money and anything I can't pay you due to FFFP, I will make up to you by lending you my yacht"
Well slight problem with that as McKinlay is manager at Stabæk in Norway now
Quote from: Chutney on December 01, 2015, 02:24:30 PM
Khan would only fly over to finalise a deal, seems its imminent
Quote from: Ordar on December 01, 2015, 02:51:39 PMQuote from: alexbishop on December 01, 2015, 02:21:53 PM
I'd like him to get Moyes/McKinley in and just be like "look guys, I own a massive yacht and I am filthy rich - I will pay you lots of money and anything I can't pay you due to FFFP, I will make up to you by lending you my yacht"
Well slight problem with that as McKinlay is manager at Stabæk in Norway now
Quote from: west kowloon white on December 01, 2015, 01:59:24 PM
So Khan flies to London- perhaps something in the wind?
Wonder who will be first to post he should have been here earlier- one of three methinks.
Quote from: J.Perkins on December 01, 2015, 04:53:27 PM
Gary Neville has also had his odds slashed. Thoughts?
Quote from: J.Perkins on December 01, 2015, 04:53:27 PM
Gary Neville has also had his odds slashed. Thoughts?
Quote from: Riverside on December 01, 2015, 05:01:36 PM
Wow Gary Neville would be a complete outside choice - certainly NO championship or management experience .
However the Hodgson link , the FA link ( did he overlap with Rigg ? ) and surely his ambition to become a manager make it intriguing . Though surely he would expect to still be part of the England set up as well ?
Would be a massive gamble BUT he could do it I think - especially if he was allowed to build up his own coaching team .
Pure speculation as I don't believe he is a candidate for a second !
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Quote from: Horsfield_No9 on December 01, 2015, 01:33:40 PMmaybe she is following new friends i.e. people she has met when they came for interviews....Quote from: NJFulham on December 01, 2015, 01:32:34 PM
Sarah Brookes just followed Warburton on Twitter.
And Seedorf!!! Make of this what you will. Very interesting.
Quote from: gerrys on December 01, 2015, 05:35:27 PMQuote from: Horsfield_No9 on December 01, 2015, 01:33:40 PMmaybe she is following new friends i.e. people she has met when they came for interviews....Quote from: NJFulham on December 01, 2015, 01:32:34 PM
Sarah Brookes just followed Warburton on Twitter.
And Seedorf!!! Make of this what you will. Very interesting.
Quote from: FPT on December 01, 2015, 06:01:26 PM
On that Seedorf "link," he said this about his philosophy:
I have been fortunate to work with many great coaches and also in different countries and I have taken a bit from all of them - Dutch, Spanish, Italian and Brazilian football. I want a mix of all of that in my team - the good possession and organised football of Dutch school and the attacking mentality of the Spanish. The Italians know how to defend in a very organised way and play for the result, and there is the freedom to express players' talent you have in Brazilian football. I saw it happen in a few matches when I was at Milan and now I would like to create it on a more consistent basis - attacking football but with a good organised defensive system. The most important thing for me is to value the players, and try to improve them individually in order to improve the team. Every player can still grow - there is no limit to that, even when I was 38 I improved myself in certain things and that is what I will always do with my players to help them get the best out of themselves."
Quote from: MarryMeWRoy on December 01, 2015, 05:57:33 PM
What are the odds on this thread reaching 150 pages before a manager (oops sorry Head Covach) is found? The odds are tumbling....
Quote from: Neil D on December 01, 2015, 01:59:00 PMWe stopped mooting her and moved on to Brooksy
What happened to the Cherie Lunghi posts?
Quote from: SG on December 01, 2015, 07:59:14 PMWho is Brooksy?Quote from: Neil D on December 01, 2015, 01:59:00 PMWe stopped mooting her and moved on to Brooksy
What happened to the Cherie Lunghi posts?
Quote from: BestOfBrede on December 01, 2015, 09:15:59 PM
I didn't even apply and yet she's also started following me!
Wow way to go..
I'll be resigning my current position tomorrow in time for the w/e!
I hope you all support me and my team.
Quote from: Bronaldinho on December 01, 2015, 09:20:07 PMQuote from: BestOfBrede on December 01, 2015, 09:15:59 PM
I didn't even apply and yet she's also started following me!
Wow way to go..
I'll be resigning my current position tomorrow in time for the w/e!
I hope you all support me and my team.
Seedorf is the man though.
Sure would motivate everyone having someone of his class around the camp.
At 12/1 he's good for a bet too!
Quote from: gerrys on December 01, 2015, 09:31:23 PMQuote from: Bronaldinho on December 01, 2015, 09:20:07 PMQuote from: BestOfBrede on December 01, 2015, 09:15:59 PM
I didn't even apply and yet she's also started following me!
Wow way to go..
I'll be resigning my current position tomorrow in time for the w/e!
I hope you all support me and my team.
Seedorf is the man though.
Sure would motivate everyone having someone of his class around the camp.
At 12/1 he's good for a bet too!
Hmm.......he owned Monza Calcio and sold it before they went bankrupt......was also Head Coach at A.C. Milan.....but not for very long.....
Sounds ominous...
Quote from: FulhamStu on December 01, 2015, 09:59:19 PM
I was saying many many times in the Spring that we should go for Warburton. Keeping Kit on was a massive error. Warburton was available and I am sure we could have sold him the job back then. Most of me would be delighted to have him as our manager however I will be pissed off that this should have been done 6 months ago. Having said all that, I don't think Warburton will be coming, why would he leave Rangers at this time, just can't see it.
Quote from: Bronaldinho on December 01, 2015, 09:55:39 PMQuote from: gerrys on December 01, 2015, 09:31:23 PMQuote from: Bronaldinho on December 01, 2015, 09:20:07 PMQuote from: BestOfBrede on December 01, 2015, 09:15:59 PM
I didn't even apply and yet she's also started following me!
Wow way to go..
I'll be resigning my current position tomorrow in time for the w/e!
I hope you all support me and my team.
Seedorf is the man though.
Sure would motivate everyone having someone of his class around the camp.
At 12/1 he's good for a bet too!
Hmm.......he owned Monza Calcio and sold it before they went bankrupt......was also Head Coach at A.C. Milan.....but not for very long.....
Sounds ominous...
Averaged 1.84 points at AC Milan, enough to earn a Champions League place in that league if he lasted the full season.
Worked in a Head Coach system before.
Could be a winner.
His presence and achievements would inspire the squad and the younger players, having someone like Seedorf to learn from Dembele could stay around :)
Quote from: jarv on December 01, 2015, 11:12:19 PM
Evening Standard says 4/1 favourite..
Quote from: Southdowns White on December 02, 2015, 08:01:08 AM
I think Ray Lewington would be a nice surprise back at the cottage.
Quote from: Mokes on December 01, 2015, 11:46:03 PM
With the introduction of Uber to London, the black cabs are coming under threat. Word is John Sitton might be out of a job soon! Watch this space.
Quote from: Asotosyios on December 02, 2015, 10:36:21 AM
QPR is in talks with Burton for JFH - I would have liked that to be us.
Quote from: grandad on December 02, 2015, 10:47:01 AMQuote from: Asotosyios on December 02, 2015, 10:36:21 AM
QPR is in talks with Burton for JFH - I would have liked that to be us.
Not me. They are welcome. We need someone experienced or good enough to take us back to the Prem.
Quote from: J.Perkins on December 02, 2015, 10:50:13 AMAgree, missed out I reckon and will look back as a mistake.Quote from: grandad on December 02, 2015, 10:47:01 AMQuote from: Asotosyios on December 02, 2015, 10:36:21 AM
QPR is in talks with Burton for JFH - I would have liked that to be us.
Not me. They are welcome. We need someone experienced or good enough to take us back to the Prem.
Getting Burton to top of L1 is good enough experience.
Quote from: MJG on December 02, 2015, 10:59:46 AMQuote from: J.Perkins on December 02, 2015, 10:50:13 AMAgree, missed out I reckon and will look back as a mistake.Quote from: grandad on December 02, 2015, 10:47:01 AMQuote from: Asotosyios on December 02, 2015, 10:36:21 AMNot me. They are welcome. We need someone experienced or good enough to take us back to the Prem.
QPR is in talks with Burton for JFH - I would have liked that to be us.
Getting Burton to top of L1 is good enough experience.
If its promotion and experience and all championship must haves, its a short list getting shorter by the day.
Quote from: HV71 on December 02, 2015, 11:15:34 AMQuote from: MJG on December 02, 2015, 10:59:46 AMQuote from: J.Perkins on December 02, 2015, 10:50:13 AMAgree, missed out I reckon and will look back as a mistake.Quote from: grandad on December 02, 2015, 10:47:01 AMQuote from: Asotosyios on December 02, 2015, 10:36:21 AMNot me. They are welcome. We need someone experienced or good enough to take us back to the Prem.
QPR is in talks with Burton for JFH - I would have liked that to be us.
Getting Burton to top of L1 is good enough experience.
If its promotion and experience and all championship must haves, its a short list getting shorter by the day.
Genuinely believe it would have been a better fit for us than them ( for everyone involved ) Can we better JFH at this stage ? ........ hopefully they will pull something amzing out of the hat
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on December 02, 2015, 11:23:34 AMI fully expect the main response to be...... 'Really?' or words to that effectQuote from: HV71 on December 02, 2015, 11:15:34 AMQuote from: MJG on December 02, 2015, 10:59:46 AMQuote from: J.Perkins on December 02, 2015, 10:50:13 AMAgree, missed out I reckon and will look back as a mistake.Quote from: grandad on December 02, 2015, 10:47:01 AMQuote from: Asotosyios on December 02, 2015, 10:36:21 AMNot me. They are welcome. We need someone experienced or good enough to take us back to the Prem.
QPR is in talks with Burton for JFH - I would have liked that to be us.
Getting Burton to top of L1 is good enough experience.
If its promotion and experience and all championship must haves, its a short list getting shorter by the day.
Genuinely believe it would have been a better fit for us than them ( for everyone involved ) Can we better JFH at this stage ? ........ hopefully they will pull something amzing out of the hat
I think amazing has left town mate, I'm getting myself prepared for someone completely underwhelming
Quote from: Chutney on December 02, 2015, 11:45:10 AMDo you feel the same about Rosler at Brentford, paving way for Warburton to do well? Just interested how that's perceived.
JFH is riding on a lot of the good work Rowett did while at Burton, will be interesting to see how he does taking over from a Ramsey, he's not left qpr in a good way.
Quote from: westcliff white on December 02, 2015, 12:02:17 PMBloody hell. good luck to him and well done for taking that job.
Gary Neville is now Valencia Head coach
Quote from: MJG on December 02, 2015, 12:06:28 PMThe owner of Valencia is a Mr Lim, the same Mr Lim that invested in Salford CityQuote from: westcliff white on December 02, 2015, 12:02:17 PMBloody hell. good luck to him and well done for taking that job.
Gary Neville is now Valencia Head coach
Quote from: westcliff white on December 02, 2015, 12:08:33 PMThats how Phil got the coaching job anywayQuote from: MJG on December 02, 2015, 12:06:28 PMThe owner of Valencia is a Mr Lim, the same Mr Lim that invested in Salford CityQuote from: westcliff white on December 02, 2015, 12:02:17 PMBloody hell. good luck to him and well done for taking that job.
Gary Neville is now Valencia Head coach
Quote from: MJG on December 02, 2015, 11:49:31 AMQuote from: Chutney on December 02, 2015, 11:45:10 AMDo you feel the same about Rosler at Brentford, paving way for Warburton to do well? Just interested how that's perceived.
JFH is riding on a lot of the good work Rowett did while at Burton, will be interesting to see how he does taking over from a Ramsey, he's not left qpr in a good way.
Quote from: MJG on December 02, 2015, 12:11:25 PMIndeed i w ould agree, although I always read that Phil was a better coach than GaryQuote from: westcliff white on December 02, 2015, 12:08:33 PMThats how Phil got the coaching job anywayQuote from: MJG on December 02, 2015, 12:06:28 PMThe owner of Valencia is a Mr Lim, the same Mr Lim that invested in Salford CityQuote from: westcliff white on December 02, 2015, 12:02:17 PMBloody hell. good luck to him and well done for taking that job.
Gary Neville is now Valencia Head coach
Quote from: westcliff white on December 02, 2015, 12:08:33 PMHis brother Phil is already there as an assistant coach. We were never in the race.Quote from: MJG on December 02, 2015, 12:06:28 PMThe owner of Valencia is a Mr Lim, the same Mr Lim that invested in Salford CityQuote from: westcliff white on December 02, 2015, 12:02:17 PMBloody hell. good luck to him and well done for taking that job.
Gary Neville is now Valencia Head coach
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on December 02, 2015, 12:11:33 PMQuote from: MJG on December 02, 2015, 11:49:31 AMQuote from: Chutney on December 02, 2015, 11:45:10 AMDo you feel the same about Rosler at Brentford, paving way for Warburton to do well? Just interested how that's perceived.
JFH is riding on a lot of the good work Rowett did while at Burton, will be interesting to see how he does taking over from a Ramsey, he's not left qpr in a good way.
All my Brentford mates will tell you Warburton laid the foundations for Rosler. Apparently as sporting director he scouted players and gave recommendations as to who to bring in. Doesn't sound a million miles away from Riggs role
Quote from: HillingdonFFC on December 02, 2015, 12:11:33 PMI'll give you another oneQuote from: MJG on December 02, 2015, 11:49:31 AMQuote from: Chutney on December 02, 2015, 11:45:10 AMDo you feel the same about Rosler at Brentford, paving way for Warburton to do well? Just interested how that's perceived.
JFH is riding on a lot of the good work Rowett did while at Burton, will be interesting to see how he does taking over from a Ramsey, he's not left qpr in a good way.
All my Brentford mates will tell you Warburton laid the foundations for Rosler. Apparently as sporting director he scouted players and gave recommendations as to who to bring in. Doesn't sound a million miles away from Riggs role
Quote from: Ordar on December 02, 2015, 12:43:09 PM
Are we ever going to hire anyone? Basically the odds on all candidates are now slipping. The bookies haven't got a clue, and sadly I don't think Rigg has. Forest is another winnable game that we're effectively throwing away.
Quote from: MJG on December 02, 2015, 12:48:07 PMQuote from: HillingdonFFC on December 02, 2015, 12:11:33 PMI'll give you another oneQuote from: MJG on December 02, 2015, 11:49:31 AMQuote from: Chutney on December 02, 2015, 11:45:10 AMDo you feel the same about Rosler at Brentford, paving way for Warburton to do well? Just interested how that's perceived.
JFH is riding on a lot of the good work Rowett did while at Burton, will be interesting to see how he does taking over from a Ramsey, he's not left qpr in a good way.
All my Brentford mates will tell you Warburton laid the foundations for Rosler. Apparently as sporting director he scouted players and gave recommendations as to who to bring in. Doesn't sound a million miles away from Riggs role
Swansea...Rodgers...was all the hard work done by the two managers before him and Rodgers is a fraud?
Quote from: Chutney on December 02, 2015, 12:54:10 PMI'd say a promotion and top spot is doing something. He would have been found out pretty sharpish and hit a bad run if he didn't have somethingQuote from: MJG on December 02, 2015, 12:48:07 PMQuote from: HillingdonFFC on December 02, 2015, 12:11:33 PMI'll give you another oneQuote from: MJG on December 02, 2015, 11:49:31 AMQuote from: Chutney on December 02, 2015, 11:45:10 AMDo you feel the same about Rosler at Brentford, paving way for Warburton to do well? Just interested how that's perceived.
JFH is riding on a lot of the good work Rowett did while at Burton, will be interesting to see how he does taking over from a Ramsey, he's not left qpr in a good way.
All my Brentford mates will tell you Warburton laid the foundations for Rosler. Apparently as sporting director he scouted players and gave recommendations as to who to bring in. Doesn't sound a million miles away from Riggs role
Swansea...Rodgers...was all the hard work done by the two managers before him and Rodgers is a fraud?
I just think it will be interesting to see how JFH does when taking over a club on a decline as opposed to a club on the up, he might well do brilliantly, but he has yet to be in that position, he's had a pretty simple career up to date.
Quote from: MJG on December 02, 2015, 12:48:07 PMQuote from: HillingdonFFC on December 02, 2015, 12:11:33 PMI'll give you another oneQuote from: MJG on December 02, 2015, 11:49:31 AMQuote from: Chutney on December 02, 2015, 11:45:10 AMDo you feel the same about Rosler at Brentford, paving way for Warburton to do well? Just interested how that's perceived.
JFH is riding on a lot of the good work Rowett did while at Burton, will be interesting to see how he does taking over from a Ramsey, he's not left qpr in a good way.
All my Brentford mates will tell you Warburton laid the foundations for Rosler. Apparently as sporting director he scouted players and gave recommendations as to who to bring in. Doesn't sound a million miles away from Riggs role
Swansea...Rodgers...was all the hard work done by the two managers before him and Rodgers is a fraud?
Quote from: Ordar on December 02, 2015, 01:02:01 PMtop 6 became unrealistic when we lost to Birmingham
The main issue I have with this, and I'm all for waiting to find the right person, is that Symons was sacked because the club are demanding top 6 (read promotion). By not replacing Symons in the international break we have now played 2 very winnable games and come away with 2 points from a possible 6. Even if we hire someone today (unlikely), they'll basically have zero time to work with the players before forest away. So that's another winnable game thrown away. (I do not believe we will win a game with Grant in charge, why is Curbishley not doing the caretaker role??)
The task of finishing top 6 is getting progressively harder the longer we don't have a new manager (head coach, whatever). So if it gets to the stage where top 6 becomes unrealistic due to how long a new hire is taken, and BBC are saying we might wait until January, what on earth was the point in sacking Symons. Yes he was useless and out of his depth, but we're coasting along with Grant who has zero experience, and is quite clearly not up to the required standard to coach the first team.
Also, we have 6 games in December, (plus 1 on Jan 2nd) so anyone who comes in is barely going to have any time to do any proper coaching anyway.
TL:DR - Basically, the manager change should have happened in the International window, or not at all if top 6 was the aim because the longer its left, the more pointless it was
Quote from: Chutney on December 02, 2015, 01:03:34 PMQuote from: Ordar on December 02, 2015, 01:02:01 PMtop 6 became unrealistic when we lost to Birmingham
The main issue I have with this, and I'm all for waiting to find the right person, is that Symons was sacked because the club are demanding top 6 (read promotion). By not replacing Symons in the international break we have now played 2 very winnable games and come away with 2 points from a possible 6. Even if we hire someone today (unlikely), they'll basically have zero time to work with the players before forest away. So that's another winnable game thrown away. (I do not believe we will win a game with Grant in charge, why is Curbishley not doing the caretaker role??)
The task of finishing top 6 is getting progressively harder the longer we don't have a new manager (head coach, whatever). So if it gets to the stage where top 6 becomes unrealistic due to how long a new hire is taken, and BBC are saying we might wait until January, what on earth was the point in sacking Symons. Yes he was useless and out of his depth, but we're coasting along with Grant who has zero experience, and is quite clearly not up to the required standard to coach the first team.
Also, we have 6 games in December, (plus 1 on Jan 2nd) so anyone who comes in is barely going to have any time to do any proper coaching anyway.
TL:DR - Basically, the manager change should have happened in the International window, or not at all if top 6 was the aim because the longer its left, the more pointless it was
Quote from: Chutney on December 02, 2015, 01:03:34 PMQuote from: Ordar on December 02, 2015, 01:02:01 PMtop 6 became unrealistic when we lost to Birmingham
The main issue I have with this, and I'm all for waiting to find the right person, is that Symons was sacked because the club are demanding top 6 (read promotion). By not replacing Symons in the international break we have now played 2 very winnable games and come away with 2 points from a possible 6. Even if we hire someone today (unlikely), they'll basically have zero time to work with the players before forest away. So that's another winnable game thrown away. (I do not believe we will win a game with Grant in charge, why is Curbishley not doing the caretaker role??)
The task of finishing top 6 is getting progressively harder the longer we don't have a new manager (head coach, whatever). So if it gets to the stage where top 6 becomes unrealistic due to how long a new hire is taken, and BBC are saying we might wait until January, what on earth was the point in sacking Symons. Yes he was useless and out of his depth, but we're coasting along with Grant who has zero experience, and is quite clearly not up to the required standard to coach the first team.
Also, we have 6 games in December, (plus 1 on Jan 2nd) so anyone who comes in is barely going to have any time to do any proper coaching anyway.
TL:DR - Basically, the manager change should have happened in the International window, or not at all if top 6 was the aim because the longer its left, the more pointless it was
Quote from: Asotosyios on December 02, 2015, 01:07:38 PM6pts equates to 4 wins in reality as not all the teams above will lose the next 2 games etc, its a hard call to make the playoffs this season now, not impossible but very hard. We need a run like Derby had 10/11 games unbeaten, with more wins than drawsQuote from: Chutney on December 02, 2015, 01:03:34 PMQuote from: Ordar on December 02, 2015, 01:02:01 PMtop 6 became unrealistic when we lost to Birmingham
The main issue I have with this, and I'm all for waiting to find the right person, is that Symons was sacked because the club are demanding top 6 (read promotion). By not replacing Symons in the international break we have now played 2 very winnable games and come away with 2 points from a possible 6. Even if we hire someone today (unlikely), they'll basically have zero time to work with the players before forest away. So that's another winnable game thrown away. (I do not believe we will win a game with Grant in charge, why is Curbishley not doing the caretaker role??)
The task of finishing top 6 is getting progressively harder the longer we don't have a new manager (head coach, whatever). So if it gets to the stage where top 6 becomes unrealistic due to how long a new hire is taken, and BBC are saying we might wait until January, what on earth was the point in sacking Symons. Yes he was useless and out of his depth, but we're coasting along with Grant who has zero experience, and is quite clearly not up to the required standard to coach the first team.
Also, we have 6 games in December, (plus 1 on Jan 2nd) so anyone who comes in is barely going to have any time to do any proper coaching anyway.
TL:DR - Basically, the manager change should have happened in the International window, or not at all if top 6 was the aim because the longer its left, the more pointless it was
It's still not unrealistic - we are only 6 points off the 6th place. But I agree with Ordar that we should have appointed someone during the international break, otherwise we should have kept Kit until the end of the year for a mid-table finish and push for promotion next year with a new manager in the summer.
Quote from: westcliff white on December 02, 2015, 02:08:45 PMYour right, we basically need to win 5 in a row and we would catch 6th place by new year.
For me the 6pts = 4 wins to get into the top 6, and thats being optimistic in my view
Quote from: Chutney on December 02, 2015, 02:21:35 PM2000?
when was the last time we won 5 games in a row?
Quote from: MJG on December 02, 2015, 02:17:17 PMQuote from: westcliff white on December 02, 2015, 02:08:45 PMYour right, we basically need to win 5 in a row and we would catch 6th place by new year.
For me the 6pts = 4 wins to get into the top 6, and thats being optimistic in my view
Quote from: Ordar on December 02, 2015, 02:29:45 PMBut anyway you don't need to win 5 in a row, just need to be slowly making up ground as the season progresses.Quote from: MJG on December 02, 2015, 02:17:17 PMQuote from: westcliff white on December 02, 2015, 02:08:45 PMYour right, we basically need to win 5 in a row and we would catch 6th place by new year.
For me the 6pts = 4 wins to get into the top 6, and thats being optimistic in my view
The last time we won 5 in a row was.......drumroll please....
2000/2001 promotion season (unsurprisingly) and only won 5 league games in a row once during that season. (Two other occasions we won 5 in row that season, but that included cup games.)
Quote from: Chutney on December 02, 2015, 02:21:35 PM
when was the last time we won 5 games in a row?
Quote from: f321ffc on November 19, 2015, 07:25:02 PMAny advance on 150,000 090.gif fp.gifQuote from: Fulham Tup North on November 19, 2015, 07:18:53 PMI posted a few days ago about this thread reaching 50,000 page views before the new man is announced, at this rate we could make 100,000.
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More importantly, Riether Lightning 63, your almost at the magical 50,000 ! 049:gif
Quote from: PokerMatt on December 02, 2015, 03:20:50 PMI started the rumour today that we will hold out to the end of the season and then we will get Pep Guardiola, not sure anyone believed me though.
Genuinely think I've gone past the point of caring now. It's a weird feeling.
Quote from: Bill2 on December 02, 2015, 03:37:29 PM25-1 apparentlyQuote from: PokerMatt on December 02, 2015, 03:20:50 PMI started the rumour today that we will hold out to the end of the season and then we will get Pep Guardiola, not sure anyone believed me though.
Genuinely think I've gone past the point of caring now. It's a weird feeling.
Quote from: MJG on December 02, 2015, 03:39:33 PMQuote from: Bill2 on December 02, 2015, 03:37:29 PM25-1 apparentlyQuote from: PokerMatt on December 02, 2015, 03:20:50 PMI started the rumour today that we will hold out to the end of the season and then we will get Pep Guardiola, not sure anyone believed me though.
Genuinely think I've gone past the point of caring now. It's a weird feeling.
Quote from: westcliff white on December 02, 2015, 01:17:51 PMQuote from: Asotosyios on December 02, 2015, 01:07:38 PM6pts equates to 4 wins in reality as not all the teams above will lose the next 2 games etc, its a hard call to make the playoffs this season now, not impossible but very hard. We need a run like Derby had 10/11 games unbeaten, with more wins than drawsQuote from: Chutney on December 02, 2015, 01:03:34 PMQuote from: Ordar on December 02, 2015, 01:02:01 PMtop 6 became unrealistic when we lost to Birmingham
The main issue I have with this, and I'm all for waiting to find the right person, is that Symons was sacked because the club are demanding top 6 (read promotion). By not replacing Symons in the international break we have now played 2 very winnable games and come away with 2 points from a possible 6. Even if we hire someone today (unlikely), they'll basically have zero time to work with the players before forest away. So that's another winnable game thrown away. (I do not believe we will win a game with Grant in charge, why is Curbishley not doing the caretaker role??)
The task of finishing top 6 is getting progressively harder the longer we don't have a new manager (head coach, whatever). So if it gets to the stage where top 6 becomes unrealistic due to how long a new hire is taken, and BBC are saying we might wait until January, what on earth was the point in sacking Symons. Yes he was useless and out of his depth, but we're coasting along with Grant who has zero experience, and is quite clearly not up to the required standard to coach the first team.
Also, we have 6 games in December, (plus 1 on Jan 2nd) so anyone who comes in is barely going to have any time to do any proper coaching anyway.
TL:DR - Basically, the manager change should have happened in the International window, or not at all if top 6 was the aim because the longer its left, the more pointless it was
It's still not unrealistic - we are only 6 points off the 6th place. But I agree with Ordar that we should have appointed someone during the international break, otherwise we should have kept Kit until the end of the year for a mid-table finish and push for promotion next year with a new manager in the summer.
Quote from: SG on December 02, 2015, 04:20:29 PM
We're there 100,001 as I post. What's the record for views?
Quote from: Riether Lightning 63 on December 02, 2015, 04:21:54 PMThe way we are going that record is not safe.Quote from: SG on December 02, 2015, 04:20:29 PM
We're there 100,001 as I post. What's the record for views?
The Official 2015 Silly Season Transfer Thread - 236116
Quote from: Riether Lightning 63 on December 02, 2015, 04:21:54 PMQuote from: SG on December 02, 2015, 04:20:29 PM
We're there 100,001 as I post. What's the record for views?
The Official 2015 Silly Season Transfer Thread - 236116
Quote from: Riether Lightning 63 on December 02, 2015, 04:24:18 PM
In all seriousness, I'm honoured that one of my threads has garnered over 100,000 views. You're all a part of it and I share my success with you. Except you Mike Rigg (if you, or one of your cronies is reading this), you can sod off
Quote from: SG on December 02, 2015, 04:26:38 PMIn all seriousness, its probably down to Rigg that this situation has gone on so long, so maybe you should be thanking him. fp.gifQuote from: Riether Lightning 63 on December 02, 2015, 04:24:18 PM
In all seriousness, I'm honoured that one of my threads has garnered over 100,000 views. You're all a part of it and I share my success with you. Except you Mike Rigg (if you, or one of your cronies is reading this), you can sod off
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Quote from: Ordar on December 02, 2015, 04:55:20 PM079.gif 079.gif 079.gif
So are the club every going to give us some kind of update into the search for a head coach. They don't have to name names but, you know, make it look like they're actually doing SOMETHING.
Can someone tweet Sarah Brookes and try and get something from her?
Quote from: Riether Lightning 63 on December 02, 2015, 04:24:18 PMRL63. I was there with you when you started this thread. I was there when you hit the magic 50,000. I was there when it passed 100,000 and I will be here when this whole sorry affair finally draws to a close. I'm here for you RL63, "Shoulder to Shoulder". Brothers together. Standing tall and dreaming of the day when this thread will no longer be needed. When we can get back to bitching about important things like the half-time pies at the Cottage. This day will come. We just need to believe.
In all seriousness, I'm honoured that one of my threads has garnered over 100,000 views. You're all a part of it and I share my success with you. Except you Mike Rigg (if you, or one of your cronies is reading this), you can sod off
Quote from: Riether Lightning 63 on December 02, 2015, 04:24:18 PMBit harsh. Surely no-one can match his contribution to making this a 100,000 views thread.
In all seriousness, I'm honoured that one of my threads has garnered over 100,000 views. You're all a part of it and I share my success with you. Except you Mike Rigg (if you, or one of your cronies is reading this), you can sod off
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on December 02, 2015, 05:29:04 PMQuote from: Riether Lightning 63 on December 02, 2015, 04:24:18 PMRL63. I was there with you when you started this thread. I was there when you hit the magic 50,000. I was there when it passed 100,000 and I will be here when this whole sorry affair finally draws to a close. I'm here for you RL63, "Shoulder to Shoulder". Brothers together. Standing tall and dreaming of the day when this thread will no longer be needed. When we can get back to bitching about important things like the half-time pies at the Cottage. This day will come. We just need to believe.
In all seriousness, I'm honoured that one of my threads has garnered over 100,000 views. You're all a part of it and I share my success with you. Except you Mike Rigg (if you, or one of your cronies is reading this), you can sod off
COYW
Quote from: AnotherVicHalomLoveChild on December 02, 2015, 07:48:55 PM
100,000 +
Surely enough now to petition the House of Commons & request a debate, even a decision/
Quote from: Logicalman on December 02, 2015, 07:45:03 PMYou missed Dempsey, Ruiz and Berbatov!Quote from: Fulham Tup North on December 02, 2015, 05:29:04 PMQuote from: Riether Lightning 63 on December 02, 2015, 04:24:18 PMRL63. I was there with you when you started this thread. I was there when you hit the magic 50,000. I was there when it passed 100,000 and I will be here when this whole sorry affair finally draws to a close. I'm here for you RL63, "Shoulder to Shoulder". Brothers together. Standing tall and dreaming of the day when this thread will no longer be needed. When we can get back to bitching about important things like the half-time pies at the Cottage. This day will come. We just need to believe.
In all seriousness, I'm honoured that one of my threads has garnered over 100,000 views. You're all a part of it and I share my success with you. Except you Mike Rigg (if you, or one of your cronies is reading this), you can sod off
COYW
Sorry, but the day in the past when all we bitched about was the pies was sometime over 3 years ago, since that time, there has been a constant bitching about Jol, then Khan, then Rene, then Khan, then Felix, then Kahn, then Rigg, then Kit, and back to Khan & Rigg, oh, and I forgot all the AM bitching that went in throughout. It's in our DNA it appears to bitch about the club personnel, from the top to the near bottom, and so, what's pies got to with it (as TT would ask)? :005:
Quote from: Carborundum on December 02, 2015, 07:02:05 PMQuote from: Riether Lightning 63 on December 02, 2015, 04:24:18 PMBit harsh. Surely no-one can match his contribution to making this a 100,000 views thread.
In all seriousness, I'm honoured that one of my threads has garnered over 100,000 views. You're all a part of it and I share my success with you. Except you Mike Rigg (if you, or one of your cronies is reading this), you can sod off
It's slowly dawning on me that eventually, one day, this thread will no longer be a part of my life. Might not happen this week or this month, but it will happen. If other readers are feeling the same way, then I can only offer the following advice: start planning for the divorce.
Quote from: PokerMatt on December 02, 2015, 08:34:03 PMlet's all make a pact to keep discussing the next manager for everQuote from: Carborundum on December 02, 2015, 07:02:05 PMQuote from: Riether Lightning 63 on December 02, 2015, 04:24:18 PMBit harsh. Surely no-one can match his contribution to making this a 100,000 views thread.
In all seriousness, I'm honoured that one of my threads has garnered over 100,000 views. You're all a part of it and I share my success with you. Except you Mike Rigg (if you, or one of your cronies is reading this), you can sod off
It's slowly dawning on me that eventually, one day, this thread will no longer be a part of my life. Might not happen this week or this month, but it will happen. If other readers are feeling the same way, then I can only offer the following advice: start planning for the divorce.
I feel like it will be a part of our lives forever.
Quote from: Logicalman on December 02, 2015, 07:54:49 PMIt may be hard to believe but I trust that lot of buffoons less than the Fulham board!Quote from: AnotherVicHalomLoveChild on December 02, 2015, 07:48:55 PM
100,000 +
Surely enough now to petition the House of Commons & request a debate, even a decision/
Jeez, have you been listening to the current debate? Shorter time to wait for the club to find someone.
Quote from: FPT on December 02, 2015, 08:39:54 PM
Mark Warburton has unleashed on Twitter... @MarkWarburton9 in case you were interested.
"Both bemused and frustrated by shockingly incorrect stories from certain media outlets. I am going nowhere and no club has approached me"
"Such stories are incorrect and disrespectful to me, to Rangers and to the supposed interested party which in this case is Fulham. Appalling"
"Why are such stories are released without any sensible investigation? Rangers fans, Rangers as a club and indeed Fulham deserve better"
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I think we can take that as a no then.
Quote from: jelmo on December 02, 2015, 09:15:00 PM
Who is left for us to approach who is:
A) A realistic target
B) An improvement on Kit
C) Interested
D) someone who hasn't knocked us back already...
Can't think of anyone.
Quote from: jelmo on December 02, 2015, 09:15:00 PM
Who is left for us to approach who is:
A) A realistic target
B) An improvement on Kit
C) Interested
D) someone who hasn't knocked us back already...
Can't think of anyone.
Quote from: JDH101 on December 02, 2015, 09:22:31 PMQuote from: jelmo on December 02, 2015, 09:15:00 PM
Who is left for us to approach who is:
A) A realistic target
B) An improvement on Kit
C) Interested
D) someone who hasn't knocked us back already...
Can't think of anyone.
Danny Murphy.
Quote from: BobbyTheBrain on December 02, 2015, 09:40:14 PM
Talkshite regular Danny Murphy is light years behind Gary Neville in the pundit stakes. Remember DM was the guy whose pundit solution when Fulham were in trouble was play Darren Bent more... The guy is certainly no footballing Einstein.
Quote from: westcliff white on December 02, 2015, 10:09:31 PM
Love Danny but he has no coaching experience and has been out the game for 2 seasons or more now, all he has done is punditry.
We cannot afford to take a punt in my opinion
Quote from: JDH101 on December 02, 2015, 10:32:52 PMQuote from: westcliff white on December 02, 2015, 10:09:31 PM
Love Danny but he has no coaching experience and has been out the game for 2 seasons or more now, all he has done is punditry.
We cannot afford to take a punt in my opinion
Why can we not afford to take a punt? Just what have we got that we might lose this season? If anything, I would say we CAN afford to take a punt this season. We have absolutely nothing to lose.
Quote from: FPT on December 02, 2015, 10:54:54 PMPerfect summary of my stance.Quote from: JDH101 on December 02, 2015, 10:32:52 PMQuote from: westcliff white on December 02, 2015, 10:09:31 PM
Love Danny but he has no coaching experience and has been out the game for 2 seasons or more now, all he has done is punditry.
We cannot afford to take a punt in my opinion
Why can we not afford to take a punt? Just what have we got that we might lose this season? If anything, I would say we CAN afford to take a punt this season. We have absolutely nothing to lose.
If, as you state, we have nothing to lose this season, why not bring somebody in who can build for the next season?
Danny Murphy has not done a single days' coaching, not at academy level, nothing.
We got rid of Kit Symons, somebody deemed not good enough despite coaching for about 7 years. Why would we then make a gamble on somebody with seemingly no interest to work?
If you have no interest to prove yourself and work on the training pitch, there is no room in the game for you. Least so here.
Quote from: FPT on December 02, 2015, 10:54:54 PMQuote from: JDH101 on December 02, 2015, 10:32:52 PMQuote from: westcliff white on December 02, 2015, 10:09:31 PM
Love Danny but he has no coaching experience and has been out the game for 2 seasons or more now, all he has done is punditry.
We cannot afford to take a punt in my opinion
Why can we not afford to take a punt? Just what have we got that we might lose this season? If anything, I would say we CAN afford to take a punt this season. We have absolutely nothing to lose.
If, as you state, we have nothing to lose this season, why not bring somebody in who can build for the next season?
Danny Murphy has not done a single days' coaching, not at academy level, nothing.
We got rid of Kit Symons, somebody deemed not good enough despite coaching for about 7 years. Why would we then make a gamble on somebody with seemingly no interest to work?
If you have no interest to prove yourself and work on the training pitch, there is no room in the game for you. Least so here.
Quote from: JDH101 on December 02, 2015, 11:10:28 PMQuote from: FPT on December 02, 2015, 10:54:54 PMQuote from: JDH101 on December 02, 2015, 10:32:52 PMQuote from: westcliff white on December 02, 2015, 10:09:31 PM
Love Danny but he has no coaching experience and has been out the game for 2 seasons or more now, all he has done is punditry.
We cannot afford to take a punt in my opinion
Why can we not afford to take a punt? Just what have we got that we might lose this season? If anything, I would say we CAN afford to take a punt this season. We have absolutely nothing to lose.
If, as you state, we have nothing to lose this season, why not bring somebody in who can build for the next season?
Danny Murphy has not done a single days' coaching, not at academy level, nothing.
We got rid of Kit Symons, somebody deemed not good enough despite coaching for about 7 years. Why would we then make a gamble on somebody with seemingly no interest to work?
If you have no interest to prove yourself and work on the training pitch, there is no room in the game for you. Least so here.
I don't understand your line of thinking. What do you mean "get someone who can build for next season"? Why wouldn't you want to offer Murphy the role in the same way Neville just accepted the Valencia job - i.e. - you have the rest of the season to prove you deserve the job long term. What on earth do we have to lose? And also, whoever comes in is not the one building for the future. Its been made crystal clear that we are looking for a head coach to manage and train the players brought in by the club. It is the club, via Rigg that is building for the future, not the next man in.
We are a mid-sized team in the middle of the table of the Championship, struggling to make FFP and have a potential transfer embargo hanging over us. Just who on earth do you think we are going to get? Have you seen who has rejected us over the last few weeks? If we could get someone like Murphy in, then give him the job and put an end to this madness.
Quote from: Asotosyios on December 03, 2015, 12:39:49 AMQuote from: JDH101 on December 02, 2015, 11:10:28 PMQuote from: FPT on December 02, 2015, 10:54:54 PMQuote from: JDH101 on December 02, 2015, 10:32:52 PMQuote from: westcliff white on December 02, 2015, 10:09:31 PM
Love Danny but he has no coaching experience and has been out the game for 2 seasons or more now, all he has done is punditry.
We cannot afford to take a punt in my opinion
Why can we not afford to take a punt? Just what have we got that we might lose this season? If anything, I would say we CAN afford to take a punt this season. We have absolutely nothing to lose.
If, as you state, we have nothing to lose this season, why not bring somebody in who can build for the next season?
Danny Murphy has not done a single days' coaching, not at academy level, nothing.
We got rid of Kit Symons, somebody deemed not good enough despite coaching for about 7 years. Why would we then make a gamble on somebody with seemingly no interest to work?
If you have no interest to prove yourself and work on the training pitch, there is no room in the game for you. Least so here.
I don't understand your line of thinking. What do you mean "get someone who can build for next season"? Why wouldn't you want to offer Murphy the role in the same way Neville just accepted the Valencia job - i.e. - you have the rest of the season to prove you deserve the job long term. What on earth do we have to lose? And also, whoever comes in is not the one building for the future. Its been made crystal clear that we are looking for a head coach to manage and train the players brought in by the club. It is the club, via Rigg that is building for the future, not the next man in.
We are a mid-sized team in the middle of the table of the Championship, struggling to make FFP and have a potential transfer embargo hanging over us. Just who on earth do you think we are going to get? Have you seen who has rejected us over the last few weeks? If we could get someone like Murphy in, then give him the job and put an end to this madness.
Here is the list of all available managers with a lot, some, little or no success: http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/trainer/verfuegbaretrainer/statistik (http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/trainer/verfuegbaretrainer/statistik)
If we have nothing to lose by giving the job to Murphy, why don't we give it to one of them instead? We have nothing to lose as you say.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on December 03, 2015, 04:33:15 AM
My main concern is, who is the Manager going to be after we have sacked the next one ?
Quote from: JDH101 on December 02, 2015, 11:10:28 PMDIdnt we do exactly that with \kit? give him the job for a while and then let him prove himself? turned out wel that.Quote from: FPT on December 02, 2015, 10:54:54 PMQuote from: JDH101 on December 02, 2015, 10:32:52 PMQuote from: westcliff white on December 02, 2015, 10:09:31 PM
Love Danny but he has no coaching experience and has been out the game for 2 seasons or more now, all he has done is punditry.
We cannot afford to take a punt in my opinion
Why can we not afford to take a punt? Just what have we got that we might lose this season? If anything, I would say we CAN afford to take a punt this season. We have absolutely nothing to lose.
If, as you state, we have nothing to lose this season, why not bring somebody in who can build for the next season?
Danny Murphy has not done a single days' coaching, not at academy level, nothing.
We got rid of Kit Symons, somebody deemed not good enough despite coaching for about 7 years. Why would we then make a gamble on somebody with seemingly no interest to work?
If you have no interest to prove yourself and work on the training pitch, there is no room in the game for you. Least so here.
I don't understand your line of thinking. What do you mean "get someone who can build for next season"? Why wouldn't you want to offer Murphy the role in the same way Neville just accepted the Valencia job - i.e. - you have the rest of the season to prove you deserve the job long term. What on earth do we have to lose? And also, whoever comes in is not the one building for the future. Its been made crystal clear that we are looking for a head coach to manage and train the players brought in by the club. It is the club, via Rigg that is building for the future, not the next man in.
We are a mid-sized team in the middle of the table of the Championship, struggling to make FFP and have a potential transfer embargo hanging over us. Just who on earth do you think we are going to get? Have you seen who has rejected us over the last few weeks? If we could get someone like Murphy in, then give him the job and put an end to this madness.
Quote from: Neil D on December 03, 2015, 08:00:57 AM
I think it is fairly inevitable now that the response to the new coach is going to be one of the following:
1. Not him. Jeez, we're done-for, given that the most inspiring choices have walked away and we are now increasingly associated with the contents of the bottom of a desperately scraped barrel.
2. Who the hell is this guy?
I hope it's the latter. Maybe we'll stumble on the next Jokanovic, Garcia, etc. Probably by accident.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on December 03, 2015, 04:33:15 AM
My main concern is, who is the Manager going to be after we have sacked the next one ?
Quote from: mkras99 on December 03, 2015, 12:02:43 AMif that wasn't in the mirror I might give that some thought, they are just picking names at random. I sure nobody actually knows except the club...... I hope
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/fulhams-new-manager-search-turns-6943762?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/fulhams-new-manager-search-turns-6943762?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)
Quote from: Asotosyios on December 03, 2015, 02:23:55 AM
To throw another name in the hat, how about Dan Petrescu? He has done very well in Romania, Poland and Russia and works in China now, so a move to London might appeal to him (even if the money is not as good as in China).
http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/dan-petrescu/stationen/trainer/2730/plus/1 (http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/dan-petrescu/stationen/trainer/2730/plus/1)
Quote from: Nero on December 03, 2015, 09:58:03 AMApparently very good
What about John Madden I hear he was a good Head Coach in his day
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on December 03, 2015, 08:41:41 AMQuote from: westcliff white on December 03, 2015, 08:22:51 AM
Agree Chutney to a degree.
Everyone has a preference, and I admire JDH101's passionate defence and promotion of Danny, everyone on this board loved him as a player for us, but as a coach I and possibly some more have doubts.
But some on here will not give any new guy time, be it 1 game, if he loses the I told you so's will come out, or maybe 2, 3 or 10 games they will come out,there are some on this board that wont never be happy no matter who gets the job. We have had 5 managers in 21 months or so, it is natural for anyone approached to think hang on how long have I got. We have to look long term and build thats what the new guy is going to have to do along with the club. We the fans have to be patient however frustrating that maybe, the club have to be patient and not trigger happy and the manager needs to get to style and formation right for what we have in the squad now, and then ensure they can change to what he wants to play buy getting the right players in (as well as shoring up our defence, if that had been done i do not think Kit would have lost his job, we have the layers they just need to do it better). Not going to go on about FFP other than to say if we have failed then that will restrict our pool of managers / coaches to choose from even more
But unless the club gets the right person for the job in the first place, bearing in mind that they havent had the right person in the job since Roy Hodgson, then all that you say about Long term, Short term or whatever means absolutely nothing. We will be back where we started.
Due to inefficiency, incompetence, negligence and bad judgements, tunnel vision, call it what you like, the club have missed the boat and let potentially good candidates slip through their fingers.
That is why we are where we are, up the Swanny without a paddle, and exactly why we are having this same conversation.
You couldn't make it up.
Quote from: f321ffc on December 03, 2015, 11:38:45 AM
Ravenelli throws his hat into the ring.
http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/europa/esclusiva-tmw-anderlecht-contatto-con-ravanelli-per-la-panchina-la-situazione-762107 (http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/europa/esclusiva-tmw-anderlecht-contatto-con-ravanelli-per-la-panchina-la-situazione-762107)
/quote]
Translation , well sort of.Radishes?
Fabrizio Radishes ready to return to the bench. Contacts with the Anderlecht, in Belgium. Some approaches up to a few hours ago, a real possibility. The Belgian company reflects, radishes in the minds of the club in the case of replacing the current coach. And, for the former Juventus striker, also a contact with the Fulham
Quote from: f321ffc on December 03, 2015, 11:44:14 AMQuote from: f321ffc on December 03, 2015, 11:38:45 AMgood ole google translate lol
Ravenelli throws his hat into the ring.
http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/europa/esclusiva-tmw-anderlecht-contatto-con-ravanelli-per-la-panchina-la-situazione-762107 (http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/europa/esclusiva-tmw-anderlecht-contatto-con-ravanelli-per-la-panchina-la-situazione-762107)
/quote]
Translation , well sort of.Radishes?
Fabrizio Radishes ready to return to the bench. Contacts with the Anderlecht, in Belgium. Some approaches up to a few hours ago, a real possibility. The Belgian company reflects, radishes in the minds of the club in the case of replacing the current coach. And, for the former Juventus striker, also a contact with the Fulham
Quote from: Ordar on December 03, 2015, 12:29:08 PM
Cant see it being Curbs. Surely he would have been given the caretaker role if there was even a chance of him getting it
Quote from: f321ffc on December 03, 2015, 11:38:45 AMIndeed. Ravanello is Italian for radish. Ravanelli in the plural gives you radishes... fp.gif
Ravenelli throws his hat into the ring.
http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/europa/esclusiva-tmw-anderlecht-contatto-con-ravanelli-per-la-panchina-la-situazione-762107 (http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/europa/esclusiva-tmw-anderlecht-contatto-con-ravanelli-per-la-panchina-la-situazione-762107)
/quote]
Translation , well sort of.Radishes?
Fabrizio Radishes ready to return to the bench. Contacts with the Anderlecht, in Belgium. Some approaches up to a few hours ago, a real possibility. The Belgian company reflects, radishes in the minds of the club in the case of replacing the current coach. And, for the former Juventus striker, also a contact with the Fulham
Quote from: Asotosyios on December 03, 2015, 01:09:42 PMI think that's a copy and paste from an English article. I'm sure the French do the same
Seedorf an option for Fulham
According to De Telegraaf, Clarence Seedorf is a serious candidate to become coach of English Championship side Fulham.
The 39-year-old has spoken recently about his openness to manage in England, having never spent a spell in the country as a player, and Seedorf is not fussed on whether that job comes in the Premier League or the Championship.
According to De Telegraaf, Seedorf is high on the wish list of Fulham director Michael Rigg, who has also identified Jaap Stam as a possible candidate. Seedorf has been out of work since being sacked as AC Milan coach last year, while Stam is currently a coach with Jong Ajax.
http://www.football-oranje.com/seedorf-an-option-for-fulham/ (http://www.football-oranje.com/seedorf-an-option-for-fulham/)
Quote from: The Moose on December 03, 2015, 10:15:46 AMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on December 03, 2015, 08:41:41 AMQuote from: westcliff white on December 03, 2015, 08:22:51 AM
Agree Chutney to a degree.
Everyone has a preference, and I admire JDH101's passionate defence and promotion of Danny, everyone on this board loved him as a player for us, but as a coach I and possibly some more have doubts.
But some on here will not give any new guy time, be it 1 game, if he loses the I told you so's will come out, or maybe 2, 3 or 10 games they will come out,there are some on this board that wont never be happy no matter who gets the job. We have had 5 managers in 21 months or so, it is natural for anyone approached to think hang on how long have I got. We have to look long term and build thats what the new guy is going to have to do along with the club. We the fans have to be patient however frustrating that maybe, the club have to be patient and not trigger happy and the manager needs to get to style and formation right for what we have in the squad now, and then ensure they can change to what he wants to play buy getting the right players in (as well as shoring up our defence, if that had been done i do not think Kit would have lost his job, we have the layers they just need to do it better). Not going to go on about FFP other than to say if we have failed then that will restrict our pool of managers / coaches to choose from even more
But unless the club gets the right person for the job in the first place, bearing in mind that they havent had the right person in the job since Roy Hodgson, then all that you say about Long term, Short term or whatever means absolutely nothing. We will be back where we started.
Due to inefficiency, incompetence, negligence and bad judgements, tunnel vision, call it what you like, the club have missed the boat and let potentially good candidates slip through their fingers.
That is why we are where we are, up the Swanny without a paddle, and exactly why we are having this same conversation.
You couldn't make it up.
No decent manager since Hodgson, what about Hughes? He did a good job in short time he was here, even if I didn't like him as a person. It's a shame that his spell coincided with MAF starting to tighten up the purse strings. If he was manager under the Shahid (Genghis) Khan, he may well have gone on to build something here.
I have been really impressed with what he's done at Stoke, especially after the QPR travesty.
Quote from: Artful Dodger on December 03, 2015, 01:24:02 PM
Would love to see Murphy given the job til the end of the year - far more than Curbishley who managed in the 90's. Murphy is up there with Gary Neville when it comes to talking sense as a pundit so would love to see if he can translate that to management.
Quote from: Mo on December 03, 2015, 03:22:16 PM
Brendan Rogers has gone from 33/1 to 5/1 in the last couple of hours,I am aware it probably means little,but IF S.Khan is getting involved would it beyond belief that he has asked the question'who is the best available manager out there at the moment?'he gets the reply 'oh that would be Brendan Rogers,but he wont come because of .where we are,the set up etc etc.'Khan replies'I dont care give him what he wants,sell us to him as his project and go and get him'..now that would be nice.
Quote from: Mo on December 03, 2015, 03:22:16 PM
Brendan Rogers has gone from 33/1 to 5/1 in the last couple of hours,I am aware it probably means little,but IF S.Khan is getting involved would it beyond belief that he has asked the question'who is the best available manager out there at the moment?'he gets the reply 'oh that would be Brendan Rogers,but he wont come because of .where we are,the set up etc etc.'Khan replies'I dont care give him what he wants,sell us to him as his project and go and get him'..now that would be nice.
Quote from: Tonywa on December 03, 2015, 02:57:04 PMThere's nothing idle about speculation. It takes ages to come up with the nonsense we post on this thread. And I can say what I like about you as well as you have taken a vow abstinence so cannot reply. So there!
This is my first post in this endless thread of idle speculation and it'll be my last as well. Goodbye for now.
Quote from: JDH101 on December 02, 2015, 09:54:27 PM
In the position we were in, if someone like Murphy showed an interest in us, I think we should bite his hand off.
Quote from: Andy S on December 03, 2015, 03:29:04 PM
Mc Donald Never had an coaching badges yet he was a success here. There is too much emphasis on badges but it is heart that wins promotion. I would give him a try there is nothing to lose
Quote from: Chutney on November 20, 2015, 09:05:40 AM
To be fair, Hantz is a very good manager and a bit of a promotion specialist, he left Bastia in the top half of ligue 1 after taking over in the national D3, this is a remarkable achievement. He turned Bastia from an obscure team in the french lower divisions to a team competing for european football, in a very small amount of time, he'd be a great appointment!
Quote from: westcliff white on December 03, 2015, 07:29:38 AMQuote from: JDH101 on December 02, 2015, 11:10:28 PMDIdnt we do exactly that with \kit? give him the job for a while and then let him prove himself? turned out wel that.Quote from: FPT on December 02, 2015, 10:54:54 PMQuote from: JDH101 on December 02, 2015, 10:32:52 PMQuote from: westcliff white on December 02, 2015, 10:09:31 PM
Love Danny but he has no coaching experience and has been out the game for 2 seasons or more now, all he has done is punditry.
We cannot afford to take a punt in my opinion
Why can we not afford to take a punt? Just what have we got that we might lose this season? If anything, I would say we CAN afford to take a punt this season. We have absolutely nothing to lose.
If, as you state, we have nothing to lose this season, why not bring somebody in who can build for the next season?
Danny Murphy has not done a single days' coaching, not at academy level, nothing.
We got rid of Kit Symons, somebody deemed not good enough despite coaching for about 7 years. Why would we then make a gamble on somebody with seemingly no interest to work?
If you have no interest to prove yourself and work on the training pitch, there is no room in the game for you. Least so here.
I don't understand your line of thinking. What do you mean "get someone who can build for next season"? Why wouldn't you want to offer Murphy the role in the same way Neville just accepted the Valencia job - i.e. - you have the rest of the season to prove you deserve the job long term. What on earth do we have to lose? And also, whoever comes in is not the one building for the future. Its been made crystal clear that we are looking for a head coach to manage and train the players brought in by the club. It is the club, via Rigg that is building for the future, not the next man in.
We are a mid-sized team in the middle of the table of the Championship, struggling to make FFP and have a potential transfer embargo hanging over us. Just who on earth do you think we are going to get? Have you seen who has rejected us over the last few weeks? If we could get someone like Murphy in, then give him the job and put an end to this madness.
The club and the new manager need to build and plan for the future to improve us and take us up the table and hopefully back to the prem. However the FFP thing is an issue, if we have failed the rules then that will impact on who we get as well, the fees we pay for managers and to pay them off count towards our FFP status. Personally I cannot see ho the football league can impose it after QPR clearly run roughshod over them (Penalties of which are yet to be announced as well), As FPT said Murphy has not done a day of caching at senior level which is slightly different to Gary Neville, so it would be, for me anyway, more than a massive punt, should also be noted by Murphy's own admission he has ticked off the powers that be at FUlham, maybe because he keeps leaking things on talksport, which what he says is knowledge from inside,
Loved the guy as a player but as a coach I am not convinced, personally Kit would be a more favourable choice
Quote from: JDH101 on December 03, 2015, 05:47:34 PMAchievements in playing doesn't necessarily make you a good coach or manager, look at Bobby Charlton, Bobby Moore, Tony Adams, the list goes on, look at those with poor careers like Alex Ferguson, Roy Hodgson, Arsene Wenger and again I would say the list goes on.Quote from: westcliff white on December 03, 2015, 07:29:38 AMQuote from: JDH101 on December 02, 2015, 11:10:28 PMDIdnt we do exactly that with \kit? give him the job for a while and then let him prove himself? turned out wel that.Quote from: FPT on December 02, 2015, 10:54:54 PMQuote from: JDH101 on December 02, 2015, 10:32:52 PMQuote from: westcliff white on December 02, 2015, 10:09:31 PM
Love Danny but he has no coaching experience and has been out the game for 2 seasons or more now, all he has done is punditry.
We cannot afford to take a punt in my opinion
Why can we not afford to take a punt? Just what have we got that we might lose this season? If anything, I would say we CAN afford to take a punt this season. We have absolutely nothing to lose.
If, as you state, we have nothing to lose this season, why not bring somebody in who can build for the next season?
Danny Murphy has not done a single days' coaching, not at academy level, nothing.
We got rid of Kit Symons, somebody deemed not good enough despite coaching for about 7 years. Why would we then make a gamble on somebody with seemingly no interest to work?
If you have no interest to prove yourself and work on the training pitch, there is no room in the game for you. Least so here.
I don't understand your line of thinking. What do you mean "get someone who can build for next season"? Why wouldn't you want to offer Murphy the role in the same way Neville just accepted the Valencia job - i.e. - you have the rest of the season to prove you deserve the job long term. What on earth do we have to lose? And also, whoever comes in is not the one building for the future. Its been made crystal clear that we are looking for a head coach to manage and train the players brought in by the club. It is the club, via Rigg that is building for the future, not the next man in.
We are a mid-sized team in the middle of the table of the Championship, struggling to make FFP and have a potential transfer embargo hanging over us. Just who on earth do you think we are going to get? Have you seen who has rejected us over the last few weeks? If we could get someone like Murphy in, then give him the job and put an end to this madness.
The club and the new manager need to build and plan for the future to improve us and take us up the table and hopefully back to the prem. However the FFP thing is an issue, if we have failed the rules then that will impact on who we get as well, the fees we pay for managers and to pay them off count towards our FFP status. Personally I cannot see ho the football league can impose it after QPR clearly run roughshod over them (Penalties of which are yet to be announced as well), As FPT said Murphy has not done a day of caching at senior level which is slightly different to Gary Neville, so it would be, for me anyway, more than a massive punt, should also be noted by Murphy's own admission he has ticked off the powers that be at FUlham, maybe because he keeps leaking things on talksport, which what he says is knowledge from inside,
Loved the guy as a player but as a coach I am not convinced, personally Kit would be a more favourable choice
To compare Kit and Danny is to compare apples to oranges. Look up what Danny has achieved in the game and then do the same with Kit. Let me tell you, one is a much longer read than the other.
Quote from: Riether Lightning 63 on December 03, 2015, 07:33:49 PM
According to Sky (just announced ahead of Reading v QPR), he is set to be announced tomorrow.
Quote from: JDH101 on December 03, 2015, 07:39:45 PMQuote from: Riether Lightning 63 on December 03, 2015, 07:33:49 PM
According to Sky (just announced ahead of Reading v QPR), he is set to be announced tomorrow.
Who is?
Quote from: westcliff white on December 03, 2015, 06:11:28 PMQuote from: JDH101 on December 03, 2015, 05:47:34 PMAchievements in playing doesn't necessarily make you a good coach or manager, look at Bobby Charlton, Bobby Moore, Tony Adams, the list goes on, look at those with poor careers like Alex Ferguson, Roy Hodgson, Arsene Wenger and again I would say the list goes on.Quote from: westcliff white on December 03, 2015, 07:29:38 AMQuote from: JDH101 on December 02, 2015, 11:10:28 PMDIdnt we do exactly that with \kit? give him the job for a while and then let him prove himself? turned out wel that.Quote from: FPT on December 02, 2015, 10:54:54 PMQuote from: JDH101 on December 02, 2015, 10:32:52 PMQuote from: westcliff white on December 02, 2015, 10:09:31 PM
Love Danny but he has no coaching experience and has been out the game for 2 seasons or more now, all he has done is punditry.
We cannot afford to take a punt in my opinion
Why can we not afford to take a punt? Just what have we got that we might lose this season? If anything, I would say we CAN afford to take a punt this season. We have absolutely nothing to lose.
If, as you state, we have nothing to lose this season, why not bring somebody in who can build for the next season?
Danny Murphy has not done a single days' coaching, not at academy level, nothing.
We got rid of Kit Symons, somebody deemed not good enough despite coaching for about 7 years. Why would we then make a gamble on somebody with seemingly no interest to work?
If you have no interest to prove yourself and work on the training pitch, there is no room in the game for you. Least so here.
I don't understand your line of thinking. What do you mean "get someone who can build for next season"? Why wouldn't you want to offer Murphy the role in the same way Neville just accepted the Valencia job - i.e. - you have the rest of the season to prove you deserve the job long term. What on earth do we have to lose? And also, whoever comes in is not the one building for the future. Its been made crystal clear that we are looking for a head coach to manage and train the players brought in by the club. It is the club, via Rigg that is building for the future, not the next man in.
We are a mid-sized team in the middle of the table of the Championship, struggling to make FFP and have a potential transfer embargo hanging over us. Just who on earth do you think we are going to get? Have you seen who has rejected us over the last few weeks? If we could get someone like Murphy in, then give him the job and put an end to this madness.
The club and the new manager need to build and plan for the future to improve us and take us up the table and hopefully back to the prem. However the FFP thing is an issue, if we have failed the rules then that will impact on who we get as well, the fees we pay for managers and to pay them off count towards our FFP status. Personally I cannot see ho the football league can impose it after QPR clearly run roughshod over them (Penalties of which are yet to be announced as well), As FPT said Murphy has not done a day of caching at senior level which is slightly different to Gary Neville, so it would be, for me anyway, more than a massive punt, should also be noted by Murphy's own admission he has ticked off the powers that be at FUlham, maybe because he keeps leaking things on talksport, which what he says is knowledge from inside,
Loved the guy as a player but as a coach I am not convinced, personally Kit would be a more favourable choice
To compare Kit and Danny is to compare apples to oranges. Look up what Danny has achieved in the game and then do the same with Kit. Let me tell you, one is a much longer read than the other.
Its going to be difficult to get the right man, but as I have said before not everyone will be pleased
Quote from: westcliff white on December 03, 2015, 08:22:56 PM
I get your point JDH, for me when I hear Danny he is the same as Shearer, and for me that's not very good. But that's what I like about football and forums everyone has opinions and I respect that.
Quote from: JDH101 on December 03, 2015, 08:52:00 PMQuote from: westcliff white on December 03, 2015, 08:22:56 PM
I get your point JDH, for me when I hear Danny he is the same as Shearer, and for me that's not very good. But that's what I like about football and forums everyone has opinions and I respect that.
We must hear very different things then. My thoughts on the various ex-player pundits:
Neville - Fantastic.
Henry - Appalling.
Shearer - predictable (similar to how I view Kit)
Keown - Awkward but has some interesting things to say.
Carragher - Solid.
Murphy - Knowledgeable
Ian Wright Wright Wright - Getting better all the time but had a very shaky start.
Not sure why I typed that, but there you go!
Quote from: FulhamStu on December 03, 2015, 09:09:20 PM
Surely if it were Stuart Gray, it would not be close, or taking a long time. Surely he would jump at it and it would be a very easy appointment. I have not seen any real evidence that we have offered anyone anything so far, even the Clarke story is full of holes. If it does turn out to be Gray or someone of that stature it would really look bad on Rigg. I don't think Rigg wants to look like an idiot.
Quote from: Fulham76 on December 03, 2015, 09:27:10 PM
Just had a horrible feeling.... That twitching idiot redknapp is still available isn't he? Was he at laugh-a-minute road at the same time as Rigg???
They wouldn't do that to us would they?
Quote from: Riether Lightning 63 on December 03, 2015, 09:29:53 PMQuote from: Fulham76 on December 03, 2015, 09:27:10 PM
Just had a horrible feeling.... That twitching idiot redknapp is still available isn't he? Was he at laugh-a-minute road at the same time as Rigg???
They wouldn't do that to us would they?
According to LinkedIn (which BTW, I find it slightly weird that someone in a position such as that has a LinkedIn page)
Technical Director
Queens Park Rangers
August 2012 – December 2012
So yes, yes he was
Quote from: mkras99 on December 03, 2015, 09:29:24 PM
http://www.footballinsider247.com/exclusive/fulham-manager-latest-club-target-stuart-gray-after-failing-to-land-other-targets (http://www.footballinsider247.com/exclusive/fulham-manager-latest-club-target-stuart-gray-after-failing-to-land-other-targets)
Quote from: NDorsetwhite on December 03, 2015, 09:18:54 PM
Could somebody please explain to me why Fulham may be in danger of being sanctioned under the FFP rules. I don't remember any major splashing of the cash in recent transfer windows, although it's difficult to know as Fulham never reveal all the financial details of transfers. The general consensus about the last window seemed to be that the money spent was roughly equal to the fees received for those let go/transferred, in particular Roberts. Indeed quite a few fans grumbled that we should have been spending more. I haven't seen anything in the press about Fulham having broken the rules but it keeps being mentioned as a possibility.
Quote from: rusty shackleford on December 03, 2015, 10:15:31 PM
Who the hell is stuart gray?
Quote from: rusty shackleford on December 03, 2015, 10:15:31 PM
Who the hell is stuart gray?
Quote from: rusty shackleford on December 03, 2015, 10:15:31 PMI was asking the same question so I googled him, a failed sacked manager with no track record of success.
Who the hell is stuart gray?
Quote from: rusty shackleford on December 03, 2015, 10:15:31 PM
Who the hell is stuart gray?
Quote from: f321ffc on December 03, 2015, 10:06:38 PM
Stuart Gray targeted as head coach with a senior figure as manager, Seedorf Stam and Advacaat mentioned according to Wayne Veysey (football insider) on cottage talk tonight, he says Gray more than 95% certain and announcement before weekend. fp.gif
Quote from: westcliff white on December 03, 2015, 10:21:04 PM
If Gray gets the job it is very underwhelming, would show a severe lack of ambition.
Basically failed everywhere he has been and comes across as dull as ditch water, makes kit look like a right raver. We need to attract players to the club most of the names linked could have done that but not sure Gray would have the same pulling power as Seedorf, Clarke and a few others that were linked.
There are far better candidates out there and with some of the names linked it makes no sense appointing Gray. I have said all along we can't afford a pint but I who'd rather that than go with Stuart Gray
Bring back Kit lol
Quote from: f321ffc on December 03, 2015, 10:06:38 PMYou listened to show...I'm still struggling to get my head round the whole setup planned.
Stuart Gray targeted as head coach with a senior figure as manager, Seedorf Stam and Advacaat mentioned according to Wayne Veysey (football insider) on cottage talk tonight, he says Gray more than 95% certain and announcement before weekend. fp.gif
Quote from: MJG on December 03, 2015, 10:30:33 PMPiddle up in a brewery comes to mind.Quote from: f321ffc on December 03, 2015, 10:06:38 PMYou listened to show...I'm still struggling to get my head round the whole setup planned.
Stuart Gray targeted as head coach with a senior figure as manager, Seedorf Stam and Advacaat mentioned according to Wayne Veysey (football insider) on cottage talk tonight, he says Gray more than 95% certain and announcement before weekend. fp.gif
Quote from: Buffalo76 on December 03, 2015, 10:29:56 PMQuote from: westcliff white on December 03, 2015, 10:21:04 PM
If Gray gets the job it is very underwhelming, would show a severe lack of ambition.
Basically failed everywhere he has been and comes across as dull as ditch water, makes kit look like a right raver. We need to attract players to the club most of the names linked could have done that but not sure Gray would have the same pulling power as Seedorf, Clarke and a few others that were linked.
There are far better candidates out there and with some of the names linked it makes no sense appointing Gray. I have said all along we can't afford a pint but I who'd rather that than go with Stuart Gray
Bring back Kit lol
:plus one:
My God is that the extent of our ambitions these days? I'm utterly lost for words.
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Quote from: MJG on December 03, 2015, 10:30:33 PMQuote from: f321ffc on December 03, 2015, 10:06:38 PMYou listened to show...I'm still struggling to get my head round the whole setup planned.
Stuart Gray targeted as head coach with a senior figure as manager, Seedorf Stam and Advacaat mentioned according to Wayne Veysey (football insider) on cottage talk tonight, he says Gray more than 95% certain and announcement before weekend. fp.gif
Quote from: RaySmith on December 04, 2015, 12:45:20 AM
Wayne Veysey made it seems as if the club's hierarchy don't know what they're doing - why sack Kit for another temporary appointment, when we already have a temp in charge at the moment?
Quote from: Berserker on December 04, 2015, 07:54:59 AMAt least you can console yourself with some nice chocolates and maybe take in a visit to In Flanders Fields museum...
I haven't heard the Cottage talk programme yet as in Belgium and don't want to stream.
Quote from: Neil D on December 04, 2015, 08:23:17 AMVery quiet over here, ferry, restaurants, tourist places etc. I've been to Flanders alot of times never seen it so quiet.Quote from: Berserker on December 04, 2015, 07:54:59 AMI haven't heard the Cottage talk programme yet as in Belgium and don't want to stream.At least you can console yourself with some nice chocolates and maybe take in a visit to In Flanders Fields museum...
Quote from: westcliff white on December 04, 2015, 08:26:13 AM
Maybe Berserker is right, with the likelihood quite high that we have an embargo this January maybe getting a coach with someone to take over later is the right way to go, people would be put off by that for sure.
I am not saying I agree with it but maybe that's all we can do.
Personally do not see how the football league can impose any FFP sanctions when thee QPR fiasco is yet to be settled
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on December 04, 2015, 08:46:55 AMI do not disagree with you,, just trying to see what's what mate. no one would take the job as you sayQuote from: westcliff white on December 04, 2015, 08:26:13 AM
Maybe Berserker is right, with the likelihood quite high that we have an embargo this January maybe getting a coach with someone to take over later is the right way to go, people would be put off by that for sure.
I am not saying I agree with it but maybe that's all we can do.
Personally do not see how the football league can impose any FFP sanctions when thee QPR fiasco is yet to be settled
If that is indeed true then it's defending the club for defence sake. It's not good enough if we've been allowed to breach the rules of FFP and another reason why we are a shambles. If this was the case then I think I would've rathered them stick with Kit. No one with any credibility would've taken the job with an embargo hanging over us so to end up with someone worse than Kit defeats the whole point of sacking him.
Quote from: westcliff white on December 04, 2015, 09:05:40 AMQuote from: dannyboi-ffc on December 04, 2015, 08:46:55 AMI do not disagree with you,, just trying to see what's what mate. no one would take the job as you sayQuote from: westcliff white on December 04, 2015, 08:26:13 AM
Maybe Berserker is right, with the likelihood quite high that we have an embargo this January maybe getting a coach with someone to take over later is the right way to go, people would be put off by that for sure.
I am not saying I agree with it but maybe that's all we can do.
Personally do not see how the football league can impose any FFP sanctions when thee QPR fiasco is yet to be settled
If that is indeed true then it's defending the club for defence sake. It's not good enough if we've been allowed to breach the rules of FFP and another reason why we are a shambles. If this was the case then I think I would've rathered them stick with Kit. No one with any credibility would've taken the job with an embargo hanging over us so to end up with someone worse than Kit defeats the whole point of sacking him.
Maybe the club thought they could get out of it (if the is an embargo hanging over us) like QPR seem to be doing. I cannot see how the FL can impose anything while the QPR situation goes on. Personally for mew the club should take legal advice if this is the case, the rules have been challenged by a party so no one should be penalised till that's over surely, but that's a debate for a different thread.
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on December 04, 2015, 08:41:21 AM
The fact Blackburn appointed Lambert within a couple of days, Qpr who many call Qphaha implying they are the joke are about to appoint a risky but very ambitious up and coming JFH and yet we have taken a month. Been linked with everyone and his dog and at the end of it all we end up with Stuart bloody Gray.
If ever we needed things put into perspective here it is ladies and gents. I'm all for backing the club and supporting the new manager but we only wanted Kit out because he wasn't the right man to take us to the next level. Appointing someone even worse is not why we wanted Kit out and it will be another in a string of hopeless decisions by our club.
I'm sorry but Khan can't keep having others to take the blame for him. First it was Mo left us in a mess, then it was Ali Mack, then it was Magath, Kit and now Rigg. Yes Rigg seems like an absolute joke but all of this has happened under our new chairman. I genuinely believe Khan's intentions for the club are good but we are a circus and if Khan allows this appointment to happen then I don't think it's defendable in anyway.
Please let this be a nightmare be just a dream! Why oh why didn't we get Warburton in the summer??? You know what if I had the choice I think I'd take Pearce over Gray. Or Warnock, that's how underwhelmed I am. The only person that is probably happy is Rigg as he gets to remain the boss with another yes man.
The right appointment for Rigg.
The wrong appointment for Fulham.
Shahid Khan, doesn't that tell you something?
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on December 04, 2015, 09:19:25 AMWho says cardiff are not at risk?Quote from: westcliff white on December 04, 2015, 09:05:40 AMQuote from: dannyboi-ffc on December 04, 2015, 08:46:55 AMI do not disagree with you,, just trying to see what's what mate. no one would take the job as you sayQuote from: westcliff white on December 04, 2015, 08:26:13 AM
Maybe Berserker is right, with the likelihood quite high that we have an embargo this January maybe getting a coach with someone to take over later is the right way to go, people would be put off by that for sure.
I am not saying I agree with it but maybe that's all we can do.
Personally do not see how the football league can impose any FFP sanctions when thee QPR fiasco is yet to be settled
If that is indeed true then it's defending the club for defence sake. It's not good enough if we've been allowed to breach the rules of FFP and another reason why we are a shambles. If this was the case then I think I would've rathered them stick with Kit. No one with any credibility would've taken the job with an embargo hanging over us so to end up with someone worse than Kit defeats the whole point of sacking him.
Maybe the club thought they could get out of it (if the is an embargo hanging over us) like QPR seem to be doing. I cannot see how the FL can impose anything while the QPR situation goes on. Personally for mew the club should take legal advice if this is the case, the rules have been challenged by a party so no one should be penalised till that's over surely, but that's a debate for a different thread.
I agree it seems very harsh that we are potentially going to be punished when qpr have done what they have. If they haven't broken rules but we have then the whole FFP idea is nonsense and a farce.
I hope fulham do challenge it but at the same time how comes Cardiff aren't at risk? We were relegated together and I thought all our players took wage cuts because of a relegation clause. If this is all down to the signing of Mccormack which was silly money then Ali Mack is an accountant who can't do maths properly. That would definitely be Fulhamish lol
Quote from: westcliff white on December 04, 2015, 09:51:30 AM
Steve Clarke sacked, oh well
Quote from: westcliff white on December 04, 2015, 10:14:27 AM
Matt I agree but if it was stuart Gray or Steve Clarke, I would have to go with Clarke. But now he signs on our terms
Quote from: westcliff white on December 04, 2015, 10:35:41 AM
MY only issue BTA was Veysey said no approach or talks to Gray has been made or taken place, so how can he be 95% certain Gray will come in?
That confused me. I am not saying he is wrong but doesn't make sense
The Southampton model is a good model, if we go that way then great, if we are appointing a coach then when we make the announcement that is what should be said a coach not head coach. The so called dutch big name would surely then be the head coach / manager what ever anyone wants to call it
Quote from: bill taylors apprentice on December 04, 2015, 10:41:34 AMNO he did say what you say, but at the start he said no talks had started / taken placeQuote from: westcliff white on December 04, 2015, 10:35:41 AM
MY only issue BTA was Veysey said no approach or talks to Gray has been made or taken place, so how can he be 95% certain Gray will come in?
That confused me. I am not saying he is wrong but doesn't make sense
The Southampton model is a good model, if we go that way then great, if we are appointing a coach then when we make the announcement that is what should be said a coach not head coach. The so called dutch big name would surely then be the head coach / manager what ever anyone wants to call it
I thought I heard otherwise.
When asked if it was 95% certain he would be signed Veysey replied "more than that"
Quote from: Riverside on December 04, 2015, 10:45:50 AMThat's how I feel too regarding Gray, but FFC need to announce it as that from the start saying a man above Gray will be in place soon.
Gray as a coach not THE HEAD coach would be a good move .
Seedorf as Head Coach then starts to work for me .
Clarke is a no from me as surely trust between him and Fulham broke down in the public nature of the collapse of talks .
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Quote from: Ordar on December 04, 2015, 06:31:46 AM
You can't have a Head Coach a manager and a director of football. That wouldn't make sense
Quote from: bill taylors apprentice on December 04, 2015, 10:30:02 AMThis exactely how I see the positives... HOWEVER, why oh why did Rigg in that interview with Brooks come out and say quote 'we are NOT looking for a manager we are looking for a head coach.
I have listened to the Veysey broadcast and its amazing how different people read different things into the same information!
At the end of the day it doesn't matter what was said by Rigg or anyone else about who they wanted and what he would be called, the early candidates didn't work out so its a fresh approach (maybe).
Veysey was very clear about what's occurred so far and therefore seems to be in the know, so I expect Gray to be appointed asap.
But I see it like this, (albeit with a positive spin) he is a highly rated coach (not manager) and we need that big time, with Pembridge going back to the U21's.
Gray will be employed by the club to coach, not pick the team in the long term and will be part of an improved coaching set up that is established within the club regardless of whichever figure head is in charge.
This is about creating stability within the club when managers/head coaches come and go and having continuity from youth to first team.
A big name personality is being sort (from Holland) to front the team management and if it comes off he will take over the leaders role from Gray who then concentrates on coaching the team.
I think most will recognise the Southampton model is to be admired and this is what we are aiming for.
I remind everyone of the Keegan and Tigana reigns where a high profile leader with a winning mentality but lacking in cutting edge coaching were backed by quiet, unassuming but quality coaching staff and what they achieved.
A Seedorf/Gray combination could be the start of something great.
OK I'm being far too optimistic, I'll stop now!
Quote from: FulhamStu on December 04, 2015, 11:43:37 AMThats where I was having issue with it all at the end. Varsey did try to say they were managing the changing process because of whats happened, but as I said I think it means we had no real plan.Quote from: bill taylors apprentice on December 04, 2015, 10:30:02 AMThis exactely how I see the positives... HOWEVER, why oh why did Rigg in that interview with Brooks come out and say quote 'we are NOT looking for a manager we are looking for a head coach.
I have listened to the Veysey broadcast and its amazing how different people read different things into the same information!
At the end of the day it doesn't matter what was said by Rigg or anyone else about who they wanted and what he would be called, the early candidates didn't work out so its a fresh approach (maybe).
Veysey was very clear about what's occurred so far and therefore seems to be in the know, so I expect Gray to be appointed asap.
But I see it like this, (albeit with a positive spin) he is a highly rated coach (not manager) and we need that big time, with Pembridge going back to the U21's.
Gray will be employed by the club to coach, not pick the team in the long term and will be part of an improved coaching set up that is established within the club regardless of whichever figure head is in charge.
This is about creating stability within the club when managers/head coaches come and go and having continuity from youth to first team.
A big name personality is being sort (from Holland) to front the team management and if it comes off he will take over the leaders role from Gray who then concentrates on coaching the team.
I think most will recognise the Southampton model is to be admired and this is what we are aiming for.
I remind everyone of the Keegan and Tigana reigns where a high profile leader with a winning mentality but lacking in cutting edge coaching were backed by quiet, unassuming but quality coaching staff and what they achieved.
A Seedorf/Gray combination could be the start of something great.
OK I'm being far too optimistic, I'll stop now!
Quote from: FulhamStu on December 04, 2015, 11:43:37 AMQuote from: bill taylors apprentice on December 04, 2015, 10:30:02 AMThis exactely how I see the positives... HOWEVER, why oh why did Rigg in that interview with Brooks come out and say quote 'we are NOT looking for a manager we are looking for a head coach.
I have listened to the Veysey broadcast and its amazing how different people read different things into the same information!
At the end of the day it doesn't matter what was said by Rigg or anyone else about who they wanted and what he would be called, the early candidates didn't work out so its a fresh approach (maybe).
Veysey was very clear about what's occurred so far and therefore seems to be in the know, so I expect Gray to be appointed asap.
But I see it like this, (albeit with a positive spin) he is a highly rated coach (not manager) and we need that big time, with Pembridge going back to the U21's.
Gray will be employed by the club to coach, not pick the team in the long term and will be part of an improved coaching set up that is established within the club regardless of whichever figure head is in charge.
This is about creating stability within the club when managers/head coaches come and go and having continuity from youth to first team.
A big name personality is being sort (from Holland) to front the team management and if it comes off he will take over the leaders role from Gray who then concentrates on coaching the team.
I think most will recognise the Southampton model is to be admired and this is what we are aiming for.
I remind everyone of the Keegan and Tigana reigns where a high profile leader with a winning mentality but lacking in cutting edge coaching were backed by quiet, unassuming but quality coaching staff and what they achieved.
A Seedorf/Gray combination could be the start of something great.
OK I'm being far too optimistic, I'll stop now!
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on December 04, 2015, 11:54:50 AMYes, but if we end us getting Grey as head coach and one of the Dutch guys as manager Rigg will look rather silly. All conjecture I know....Quote from: FulhamStu on December 04, 2015, 11:43:37 AMQuote from: bill taylors apprentice on December 04, 2015, 10:30:02 AMThis exactely how I see the positives... HOWEVER, why oh why did Rigg in that interview with Brooks come out and say quote 'we are NOT looking for a manager we are looking for a head coach.
I have listened to the Veysey broadcast and its amazing how different people read different things into the same information!
At the end of the day it doesn't matter what was said by Rigg or anyone else about who they wanted and what he would be called, the early candidates didn't work out so its a fresh approach (maybe).
Veysey was very clear about what's occurred so far and therefore seems to be in the know, so I expect Gray to be appointed asap.
But I see it like this, (albeit with a positive spin) he is a highly rated coach (not manager) and we need that big time, with Pembridge going back to the U21's.
Gray will be employed by the club to coach, not pick the team in the long term and will be part of an improved coaching set up that is established within the club regardless of whichever figure head is in charge.
This is about creating stability within the club when managers/head coaches come and go and having continuity from youth to first team.
A big name personality is being sort (from Holland) to front the team management and if it comes off he will take over the leaders role from Gray who then concentrates on coaching the team.
I think most will recognise the Southampton model is to be admired and this is what we are aiming for.
I remind everyone of the Keegan and Tigana reigns where a high profile leader with a winning mentality but lacking in cutting edge coaching were backed by quiet, unassuming but quality coaching staff and what they achieved.
A Seedorf/Gray combination could be the start of something great.
OK I'm being far too optimistic, I'll stop now!
Rigg said it because Rigg is looking to appoint a Head Coach rather than a Manager.
Quote from: Oakeshott on December 04, 2015, 12:04:23 PMhis agent must of got the sack
"it was only a greedy agent who turned his back on fulham, not Clarke himself"
Can't agree with that. The player has to take responsibility for what his agent does on his behalf. He has either agreed it, when it is clearly his responsibility, or the agent has acted unilaterally and if the player disagrees he has to man up and say so.
Clarke must be feeling a complete prat now. No job at Reading, missed out on what could well have been a great opportunity at Fulham, and every other club aware that dealing with him can be fraught.
Quote from: MJG on December 04, 2015, 11:52:30 AMOr that our plan has been shot to pieces because we could not get the people we wanted in the first place and now Rigg is trying to find a way out of the mess he has created. He can say - we have the head coach we wanted all along (Grey) and we have appointed a manager as well... sort of Rigg trying to save face I guess. The problems are classic Fulham created by very poor or no communication. I think Rigg likes to be seen as the 'Big Guy' and likes to make bold statements, however when he can't deliver having made the initial comment it totally backfires on him. The other thing we have to remember is that Khan is in the background behind Rigg. Did Veysey not say in his initial Cottage Talk interview that the Head Coach direction came from Khan and his American people.Quote from: FulhamStu on December 04, 2015, 11:43:37 AMThats where I was having issue with it all at the end. Varsey did try to say they were managing the changing process because of whats happened, but as I said I think it means we had no real plan.Quote from: bill taylors apprentice on December 04, 2015, 10:30:02 AMThis exactely how I see the positives... HOWEVER, why oh why did Rigg in that interview with Brooks come out and say quote 'we are NOT looking for a manager we are looking for a head coach.
I have listened to the Veysey broadcast and its amazing how different people read different things into the same information!
At the end of the day it doesn't matter what was said by Rigg or anyone else about who they wanted and what he would be called, the early candidates didn't work out so its a fresh approach (maybe).
Veysey was very clear about what's occurred so far and therefore seems to be in the know, so I expect Gray to be appointed asap.
But I see it like this, (albeit with a positive spin) he is a highly rated coach (not manager) and we need that big time, with Pembridge going back to the U21's.
Gray will be employed by the club to coach, not pick the team in the long term and will be part of an improved coaching set up that is established within the club regardless of whichever figure head is in charge.
This is about creating stability within the club when managers/head coaches come and go and having continuity from youth to first team.
A big name personality is being sort (from Holland) to front the team management and if it comes off he will take over the leaders role from Gray who then concentrates on coaching the team.
I think most will recognise the Southampton model is to be admired and this is what we are aiming for.
I remind everyone of the Keegan and Tigana reigns where a high profile leader with a winning mentality but lacking in cutting edge coaching were backed by quiet, unassuming but quality coaching staff and what they achieved.
A Seedorf/Gray combination could be the start of something great.
OK I'm being far too optimistic, I'll stop now!
Quote from: RuislipWhite on December 04, 2015, 11:18:10 AM
Morning all, don't post much but I have to say we need to swallow our pride here and hope for Clarke
Quote from: rusty shackleford on December 04, 2015, 12:20:52 PMThere is no way Fulham will consider Clarke after his comments to the press. Absolutely no way what so ever.... this will not happen, there is little I know for certain about what Fulham are up too, however I can guarentee this one.Quote from: RuislipWhite on December 04, 2015, 11:18:10 AM
Morning all, don't post much but I have to say we need to swallow our pride here and hope for Clarke
I agree. if its a choice between Clarke and Gray, ill take Clarke all day long
Quote from: FulhamStu on December 04, 2015, 12:28:46 PMQuote from: rusty shackleford on December 04, 2015, 12:20:52 PMThere is no way Fulham will consider Clarke after his comments to the press. Absolutely no way what so ever.... this will not happen, there is little I know for certain about what Fulham are up too, however I can guarentee this one.Quote from: RuislipWhite on December 04, 2015, 11:18:10 AM
Morning all, don't post much but I have to say we need to swallow our pride here and hope for Clarke
I agree. if its a choice between Clarke and Gray, ill take Clarke all day long
Quote from: FulhamStu on December 04, 2015, 12:28:46 PMvery hard to do a u turn when questioning the professionalism of our professional football teamQuote from: rusty shackleford on December 04, 2015, 12:20:52 PMThere is no way Fulham will consider Clarke after his comments to the press. Absolutely no way what so ever.... this will not happen, there is little I know for certain about what Fulham are up too, however I can guarentee this one.Quote from: RuislipWhite on December 04, 2015, 11:18:10 AM
Morning all, don't post much but I have to say we need to swallow our pride here and hope for Clarke
I agree. if its a choice between Clarke and Gray, ill take Clarke all day long
Quote from: gerrys on December 04, 2015, 12:58:04 PM
Rigg said it because Rigg is looking to appoint a Head Coach rather than a Manager.
maybe that is true.........for the moment, at least.......the manager search will be at the end of the season....
Quote from: Nero on December 04, 2015, 01:29:50 PM
Clarke/Grey/Symons all average around 34% wins all average around 25% draws we don't seem to be looking for an improvement. But Tony Mowbray current at Coventry averages a win ratio of 43% again not exciting as such but would give us the improvement we need points wise to get top 6 and has a promotion fro this league under his belt
Quote from: bill taylors apprentice on December 04, 2015, 01:35:21 PMI have enjoyed the Rigg interviews. I however do not think he needed to say we are looking for a head coach NOT a manager. All this did was pose more questions.
Funny how we despair over the clubs (lack of) communication and then when Rigg opens up we dissect it to death and take every word literally.
Looking forward I like the idea being put forward and cast my mind back to when Alec Stock was appointed and he promoted the highly rated but almost unknown Bill Taylor.
Yes, yes, I know I'm getting all positive and optimistic again.
Quote from: horse1031 on December 04, 2015, 02:20:54 PM
if it is david moyes or brendan rodgers i will continue to wait to get them in.
Quote from: rubbernecca on December 04, 2015, 12:36:01 PM
It's difficult to get excited about a guy named Gray. He has the same mediocre winning record as Clarke but he did it with less resources. He also seems to be admired for his man management skills, at least by Jose Semedo: http://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/sheff-weds/sheff-weds-news/sheffield-wednesday-gray-has-mourinho-like-ethic-1-6430599 (http://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/sheff-weds/sheff-weds-news/sheffield-wednesday-gray-has-mourinho-like-ethic-1-6430599)
I'm not excited but will definitely support him if he's the one.
Quote from: SG on December 04, 2015, 03:28:39 PMQuote from: horse1031 on December 04, 2015, 02:20:54 PM
if it is david moyes or brendan rodgers i will continue to wait to get them in.
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Lets face it - the 'I'll do whatever it takes to get us back to the Premier Division' was a load of old bollocks. We are deluding ourselves if we think they are going to appoint a Moyes or a Rodgers or a Neville as was suggested.
This is the opportunity to start the restoration of our fortunes and it looks as though they have blown it. I am bored with the entire thing and have zero hope of this management team appointing anyone who will blow our socks off
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on December 04, 2015, 04:38:39 PMYou speak words of wisdom, Toodles McMoot.
Couldn't care less if the manager's name or CV blows my socks off. All he need do is win. Get that right and no one will care who.
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on December 04, 2015, 04:38:39 PMAgreed I hope they choose a bloke with the highest win percentage.Quote from: SG on December 04, 2015, 03:28:39 PMQuote from: horse1031 on December 04, 2015, 02:20:54 PM
if it is david moyes or brendan rodgers i will continue to wait to get them in.
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Lets face it - the 'I'll do whatever it takes to get us back to the Premier Division' was a load of old bollocks. We are deluding ourselves if we think they are going to appoint a Moyes or a Rodgers or a Neville as was suggested.
This is the opportunity to start the restoration of our fortunes and it looks as though they have blown it. I am bored with the entire thing and have zero hope of this management team appointing anyone who will blow our socks off
Couldn't care less if the manager's name or CV blows my socks off. All he need do is win. Get that right and no one will care who.
Quote from: Wearethewhites on December 01, 2015, 10:49:06 PM
Won't happen, sorry. We'll end up with Advocaat on a rolling contract till the end of the year or something.
Quote from: OdecaMynoT on December 04, 2015, 11:34:34 PMQuote from: Wearethewhites on December 01, 2015, 10:49:06 PM
Won't happen, sorry. We'll end up with Advocaat on a rolling contract till the end of the year or something.
At least it'll be a good excuse to chant 'Dick out'.
Quote from: JoeyFFC on December 05, 2015, 12:19:36 AMHe has experience of being a head coach from his time in belgium
Alex Mcleish has dropped down to 4/1 all of a sudden could this mean something??
Quote from: JoeyFFC on December 05, 2015, 12:19:36 AM
Alex Mcleish has dropped down to 4/1 all of a sudden could this mean something??
Quote from: Riverside on December 05, 2015, 09:27:11 AM
Bergcamp may have been one of the Dutch that Mac and Rigg saw in Holland last weekend ?
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Quote from: f321ffc on December 05, 2015, 09:31:31 AMQuote from: Riverside on December 05, 2015, 09:27:11 AM
Bergcamp may have been one of the Dutch that Mac and Rigg saw in Holland last weekend ?
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Not according to Wayne Veysey (the man in the know) it was Seedorf Stam and Advocaat.
Quote from: Riverside on December 05, 2015, 10:17:56 AMQuote from: f321ffc on December 05, 2015, 09:31:31 AMQuote from: Riverside on December 05, 2015, 09:27:11 AM
Bergcamp may have been one of the Dutch that Mac and Rigg saw in Holland last weekend ?
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Not according to Wayne Veysey (the man in the know) it was Seedorf Stam and Advocaat.
In the know = gossip
May or may not be fact
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Quote from: Lighthouse on December 05, 2015, 02:27:04 PM
The so called Insider says that Gray will be given a caretaker role until the manager can be brought in. Sounds all very messy to me.
Quote from: Wearethewhites on December 05, 2015, 02:47:09 PM
Gray to be announced after today's game by all accounts. Joke if so,
Quote from: Fulham76 on December 05, 2015, 04:07:24 PMQuote from: Wearethewhites on December 05, 2015, 02:47:09 PM
Gray to be announced after today's game by all accounts. Joke if so,
That news isn't worth an announcement!
Interesting to see how the club will spin this one? Everyone knows this guy was nowhere near the top of the list of preferred candidates & we all know he has a poor record.
Embarrassing & a joke if it happens.
Quote from: Fulham76 on December 05, 2015, 04:07:24 PMQuote from: Wearethewhites on December 05, 2015, 02:47:09 PM
Gray to be announced after today's game by all accounts. Joke if so,
That news isn't worth an announcement!
Interesting to see how the club will spin this one? Everyone knows this guy was nowhere near the top of the list of preferred candidates & we all know he has a poor record.
Embarrassing & a joke if it happens.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on December 05, 2015, 05:14:27 PM
Well it's not Stuart Grays fault. The blame lays mainly at the feet of the absent non footballing owner, his tenure over the last 30 months has been nothing short of a disaster, he couldn't run a bath. Just tyre remoulds, engines full of sawdust, and wound back clocks. I wouldn't trust him to feed my Goldfish.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on December 05, 2015, 05:14:27 PM
Well it's not Stuart Grays fault. The blame lays mainly at the feet of the absent non footballing owner, his tenure over the last 30 months has been nothing short of a disaster, he couldn't run a bath. Just tyre remoulds, engines full of sawdust, and wound back clocks. I wouldn't trust him to feed my Goldfish.
Quote from: Logicalman on December 05, 2015, 05:16:52 PMTo be fair to Woolly Mammoth, I don't think he has ever bought a Football Club, that was doing ok and in the Top Flight and ran it into the ground, turning it from a decent well run family club, to a professional laughing stock joke, that cannot even find a Manager (Sorry, Head Coach) to appoint, without turning the whole episode into a circus.Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on December 05, 2015, 05:14:27 PM
Well it's not Stuart Grays fault. The blame lays mainly at the feet of the absent non footballing owner, his tenure over the last 30 months has been nothing short of a disaster, he couldn't run a bath. Just tyre remoulds, engines full of sawdust, and wound back clocks. I wouldn't trust him to feed my Goldfish.
Well, he has successfully built up and runs a multi-billion dollar empire, and has a 4.4 billion dollar personal worth ... so how rich and successful are you?
Quote from: grandad on December 05, 2015, 05:25:28 PMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on December 05, 2015, 05:14:27 PM
Well it's not Stuart Grays fault. The blame lays mainly at the feet of the absent non footballing owner, his tenure over the last 30 months has been nothing short of a disaster, he couldn't run a bath. Just tyre remoulds, engines full of sawdust, and wound back clocks. I wouldn't trust him to feed my Goldfish.
Khan is not absent. He is in contact every day. Why this obsession of you calling him absent. He has been over here all week. I am sure when he is in the US he knows how to use Skype & video conferencing.
I trust Khan more than I ever did MAF who was also out of the country more than he was here for tax avoidance reasons.
Quote from: Logicalman on December 05, 2015, 05:16:52 PMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on December 05, 2015, 05:14:27 PM
Well it's not Stuart Grays fault. The blame lays mainly at the feet of the absent non footballing owner, his tenure over the last 30 months has been nothing short of a disaster, he couldn't run a bath. Just tyre remoulds, engines full of sawdust, and wound back clocks. I wouldn't trust him to feed my Goldfish.
Well, he has successfully built up and runs a multi-billion dollar empire, and has a 4.4 billion dollar personal worth ... so how rich and successful are you?
Quote from: Logicalman on December 05, 2015, 05:16:52 PMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on December 05, 2015, 05:14:27 PM
Well it's not Stuart Grays fault. The blame lays mainly at the feet of the absent non footballing owner, his tenure over the last 30 months has been nothing short of a disaster, he couldn't run a bath. Just tyre remoulds, engines full of sawdust, and wound back clocks. I wouldn't trust him to feed my Goldfish.
Well, he has successfully built up and runs a multi-billion dollar empire, and has a 4.4 billion dollar personal worth ... so how rich and successful are you?
Quote from: Logicalman on December 05, 2015, 05:16:52 PMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on December 05, 2015, 05:14:27 PM
Well it's not Stuart Grays fault. The blame lays mainly at the feet of the absent non footballing owner, his tenure over the last 30 months has been nothing short of a disaster, he couldn't run a bath. Just tyre remoulds, engines full of sawdust, and wound back clocks. I wouldn't trust him to feed my Goldfish.
Well, he has successfully built up and runs a multi-billion dollar empire, and has a 4.4 billion dollar personal worth ... so how rich and successful are you?
Quote from: Fulham76 on December 05, 2015, 05:39:53 PMQuote from: Logicalman on December 05, 2015, 05:16:52 PMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on December 05, 2015, 05:14:27 PM
Well it's not Stuart Grays fault. The blame lays mainly at the feet of the absent non footballing owner, his tenure over the last 30 months has been nothing short of a disaster, he couldn't run a bath. Just tyre remoulds, engines full of sawdust, and wound back clocks. I wouldn't trust him to feed my Goldfish.
Well, he has successfully built up and runs a multi-billion dollar empire, and has a 4.4 billion dollar personal worth ... so how rich and successful are you?
You're very protective of Khan! Do you know him personally or is it just because he is an American, (you are too, aren't you?). I know he's originally from Pakistan by the way.
Very defensive if someone even hints at making a negative comment about the guy.
Whether you like it or not there are an awful lot of fans that think he's doing a terrible job of running the club. If he showed us anywhere near as much interest as he does his other businesses we'd have no issues whatsoever because he is such a good businessman, but he doesn't.
Personally I have no idea why he bought Fulham & I think only those close to him know the real reasons. He's never explained it to the fans & he never will. Personally I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him & I don't believe he has the clubs best interests in mind.
4.4 billion net worth or not, if he runs us like a piece of crap, we'll always be crap.
You may not like it but too many fans don't like what he's doing to the club for us all to be wrong, so no need for the digs at posters because they don't match up to Khans personal fortune.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on December 05, 2015, 06:49:22 PM
Typical diatribe from Lighthouse and Logicalman when it comes to debating with anyone that disagrees with them, they must be very proud of themselves. To get nasty and personal with fellow Fulham Supporters, fortunately they are in the minority and utterly deluded. Nothing poisonous they will say will change my mind, I will keep my powder dry, and not return or swop insults to them, they haven't a clue about me, which makes them look even more pathetic. But I will continue to voice my opinions, and swot away their attempts to bully me, like a horses swat flies away with their tails.
As for running to the mods for support, because you do not like my opinions, you just made yourself look even sadder than you already are.
Quote from: westcliff white on December 05, 2015, 07:13:44 PM
Calm down everyone please, we don't need personal insults or try to antagonise other posters.
Quote from: Fulham76 on December 05, 2015, 07:19:06 PMAs I said everyoneQuote from: westcliff white on December 05, 2015, 07:13:44 PM
Calm down everyone please, we don't need personal insults or try to antagonise other posters.
Agreed, but difficult to enforce when some of the insults are coming from moderators!
I'd like to think the logical one will send himself, (herself - I don't know), one of those bible length bollockings I've had in the past...
Quote from: westcliff white on December 05, 2015, 07:22:59 PM
Fulham76 mind the language as well mate come on, you don't make it easier with that for me
Quote from: Fulham76 on December 05, 2015, 07:32:08 PMNo worries, I try to do my best and be fair to everyone, but hard to do so when you get a pointed comment like that.Quote from: westcliff white on December 05, 2015, 07:22:59 PM
Fulham76 mind the language as well mate come on, you don't make it easier with that for me
The 'B' word?
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Quote from: Chutney on December 05, 2015, 07:54:26 PM]
Khan owns two sports teams, they are both awful.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on December 05, 2015, 06:49:22 PM
Typical diatribe from Lighthouse and Logicalman when it comes to debating with anyone that disagrees with them, they must be very proud of themselves. To get nasty and personal with fellow Fulham Supporters, fortunately they are in the minority and utterly deluded. Nothing poisonous they will say will change my mind, I will keep my powder dry, and not return or swop insults to them, they haven't a clue about me, which makes them look even more pathetic. But I will continue to voice my opinions, and swot away their attempts to bully me, like a horses swat flies away with their tails.
As for running to the mods for support, because you do not like my opinions, you just made yourself look even sadder than you already are.
Quote from: Wearethewhites on December 05, 2015, 10:31:11 PM
Slavisa Jokanovic, down from 14 to 8 on Odds Checker today, 4/1 on Betfair.
Quote from: Wearethewhites on December 05, 2015, 10:31:11 PM
Slavisa Jokanovic, down from 14 to 8 on Odds Checker today, 4/1 on Betfair.
Quote from: Fulham76 on December 05, 2015, 10:41:33 PMQuote from: Wearethewhites on December 05, 2015, 10:31:11 PM
Slavisa Jokanovic, down from 14 to 8 on Odds Checker today, 4/1 on Betfair.
Is this the guy that got Watford promoted last season? If so, why did he leave?
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on December 05, 2015, 06:49:22 PMthere are a few other as well Woolly Mammoth. Heaven forbid your opinion is contrary to theirs. Then you get attacked and insulted. Strange really because nobody really knows the facts. That's why opinions are posted
Typical diatribe from Lighthouse and Logicalman when it comes to debating with anyone that disagrees with them, they must be very proud of themselves. To get nasty and personal with fellow Fulham Supporters, fortunately they are in the minority and utterly deluded. Nothing poisonous they will say will change my mind, I will keep my powder dry, and not return or swop insults to them, they haven't a clue about me, which makes them look even more pathetic. But I will continue to voice my opinions, and swot away their attempts to bully me, like a horses swat flies away with their tails.
As for running to the mods for support, because you do not like my opinions, you just made yourself look even sadder than you already are.
Quote from: St Eve on December 05, 2015, 10:54:31 PMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on December 05, 2015, 06:49:22 PMthere are a few other as well Woolly Mammoth. Heaven forbid your opinion is contrary to theirs. Then you get attacked and insulted. Strange really because nobody really knows the facts. That's why opinions are posted
Typical diatribe from Lighthouse and Logicalman when it comes to debating with anyone that disagrees with them, they must be very proud of themselves. To get nasty and personal with fellow Fulham Supporters, fortunately they are in the minority and utterly deluded. Nothing poisonous they will say will change my mind, I will keep my powder dry, and not return or swop insults to them, they haven't a clue about me, which makes them look even more pathetic. But I will continue to voice my opinions, and swot away their attempts to bully me, like a horses swat flies away with their tails.
As for running to the mods for support, because you do not like my opinions, you just made yourself look even sadder than you already are.
Quote from: Lighthouse on December 05, 2015, 11:08:59 PMQuote from: St Eve on December 05, 2015, 10:54:31 PMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on December 05, 2015, 06:49:22 PMthere are a few other as well Woolly Mammoth. Heaven forbid your opinion is contrary to theirs. Then you get attacked and insulted. Strange really because nobody really knows the facts. That's why opinions are posted
Typical diatribe from Lighthouse and Logicalman when it comes to debating with anyone that disagrees with them, they must be very proud of themselves. To get nasty and personal with fellow Fulham Supporters, fortunately they are in the minority and utterly deluded. Nothing poisonous they will say will change my mind, I will keep my powder dry, and not return or swop insults to them, they haven't a clue about me, which makes them look even more pathetic. But I will continue to voice my opinions, and swot away their attempts to bully me, like a horses swat flies away with their tails.
As for running to the mods for support, because you do not like my opinions, you just made yourself look even sadder than you already are.
What are you talking about? I honestly have no idea where I am supposed to have insulted anyone. Please you must know as you agree with him. I don't remember insulting him or commenting on any of his opinions. Clearly you think I did. Tell me where I did.
When have I gone to the Mods? When have I got nasty and personal? This is a pack of lies.
Quote from: FPT on December 06, 2015, 12:38:17 AM
Our problem recently has been defending. What was the strongest attribute of Stuart Gray's Sheffield Wednesday side? It's defending (fourth best in the division last season). I don't quite understand the sense of "eurgh" to his name; is it because he's not sexy enough?
Quote from: FPT on December 06, 2015, 12:38:17 AM
Our problem recently has been defending. What was the strongest attribute of Stuart Gray's Sheffield Wednesday side? It's defending (fourth best in the division last season). I don't quite understand the sense of "eurgh" to his name; is it because he's not sexy enough?
Quote from: FPT on December 06, 2015, 12:38:17 AMAgreed. We are at the point where I dread hearing Gentlemen Jim say "and [insert team name] have won their first corner of the game." A month has passed without having someone new with the necessary authority to sort out our defence. Stuart Gray's Wednesday let in fewer than fifty goals last season. We are on track for mid to high sixties. No adjectives, the facts speak for themselves
Our problem recently has been defending. What was the strongest attribute of Stuart Gray's Sheffield Wednesday side? It's defending (fourth best in the division last season). I don't quite understand the sense of "eurgh" to his name; is it because he's not sexy enough?
Quote from: Wearethewhites on December 05, 2015, 10:31:11 PMNow that does cheer me up and if he were in place by the time I trek up to Bolton then I would do so with a spring in my step - at least metaphorically as I am going by train.
Slavisa Jokanovic, down from 14 to 8 on Odds Checker today, 4/1 on Betfair.
Quote from: grandad on December 06, 2015, 02:48:59 PM
From Sky Sports News
It is understood that Birmingham City manager Gary Rowett and Hibernian boss Alan Stubbs feature on the shortlist for the vacant managerial position at Reading.
Quote from: clarkey on December 06, 2015, 05:03:28 PM
Chris Coleman being tipped by Welsh press now
welcome home Cookie
Quote from: Hoppus on December 06, 2015, 05:10:32 PMnot that I'd want him back, but no way does he leave Wales after qualifying them for the eurosQuote from: clarkey on December 06, 2015, 05:03:28 PM
Chris Coleman being tipped by Welsh press now
welcome home Cookie
Please be true!
Source?
Quote from: Berserker on December 06, 2015, 05:25:19 PMWow, I didn't know that you had Prune trees. I like Prunes. Do you get many on each tree?
I'm depressed today. Needed to prune my fruit trees but too depressed to do it. My depression is all Fulham's fault. I will have scruffy apples and Pears cause of them
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on December 06, 2015, 05:28:42 PMQuote from: Berserker on December 06, 2015, 05:25:19 PMWow, I didn't know that you had Prune trees. I like Prunes. Do you get many on each tree?
I'm depressed today. Needed to prune my fruit trees but too depressed to do it. My depression is all Fulham's fault. I will have scruffy apples and Pears cause of them
Quote from: fulhamben on December 06, 2015, 05:16:34 PMQuote from: Hoppus on December 06, 2015, 05:10:32 PMnot that I'd want him back, but no way does he leave Wales after qualifying them for the eurosQuote from: clarkey on December 06, 2015, 05:03:28 PM
Chris Coleman being tipped by Welsh press now
welcome home Cookie
Please be true!
Source?
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on December 06, 2015, 12:25:50 PMSo maybe just a Spring in your Onion?
Now that does cheer me up and if he were in place by the time I trek up to Bolton then I would do so with a spring in my step - at least metaphorically as I am going by train.
Quote from: clarkey on December 06, 2015, 05:03:28 PM
Chris Coleman being tipped by Welsh press now
welcome home Cookie
Quote from: Wingnut on December 06, 2015, 09:50:04 PMQuote from: clarkey on December 06, 2015, 05:03:28 PM
Chris Coleman being tipped by Welsh press now
welcome home Cookie
Can't see him giving up the chance to manage at the Euros to come back to us.
Quote from: ollienixs on December 06, 2015, 11:52:19 PMSo we have waited 4 weeks for this mind blowing news. Oh dear oh dear oh dear
Gray 1/1 now with sky bet. Surely a done deal
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Quote from: Fulham Tup North on December 06, 2015, 05:28:42 PMQuote from: Berserker on December 06, 2015, 05:25:19 PMWow, I didn't know that you had Prune trees. I like Prunes. Do you get many on each tree?
I'm depressed today. Needed to prune my fruit trees but too depressed to do it. My depression is all Fulham's fault. I will have scruffy apples and Pears cause of them
Quote from: St Eve on December 07, 2015, 12:39:52 AMQuote from: ollienixs on December 06, 2015, 11:52:19 PMSo we have waited 4 weeks for this mind blowing news. Oh dear oh dear oh dear
Gray 1/1 now with sky bet. Surely a done deal
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Quote from: JDH101 on December 07, 2015, 05:19:56 AM
Please please please get him and put an end to this madness.
Quote from: Ordar on December 07, 2015, 09:11:21 AM
Tomorrow marks the 1 month anniversary since Symons was sacked. Since then we have 2 points from a possible 9 against 3 or the weaker sides in the division.
Its looking like we're resorting to our 29th "first choice" option in Stewart Gray who has absolutely no pedigree, and who's crowning achievement was a 13th placed finish for Sheff Wed.
What exactly are the fans meant to be excited about? If they offered season ticket refunds I would return mine. Symons was sacked (rightly)because he wasn't meeting the point target for promotion. We have now thrown away 7 points and effectively given up on the season, so what was the point.
Add to that the likely transfer embargo we have coming up.... Since Hughes left its been nothing short of a unmitigated disaster both on and off the pitch. I cant see any light at the end of the tunnel
Quote from: spikey norman on December 07, 2015, 10:28:50 AMDanny makes me laugh thats about the 5th name he has mentioned now, still think he is a legend though (thats as a player for us)
Did anyone catch Danny Murphy on Talk Sport this morning.
Only caught tail end of him talking about who should be our next manager/coach but I think he was suggesting Alan Stubbs would be a good option.
Quote from: Riether Lightning 63 on December 07, 2015, 10:29:13 AMJust checked sky no news on there
Gary Monk just gone from Swansea
Quote from: spikey norman on December 07, 2015, 10:28:50 AMNo, to be fair they were discussing Reading at that point, and Murphy was just saying that Alan Stubbs was a solid option.
Did anyone catch Danny Murphy on Talk Sport this morning.
Only caught tail end of him talking about who should be our next manager/coach but I think he was suggesting Alan Stubbs would be a good option.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on December 05, 2015, 05:14:27 PM
Well it's not Stuart Grays fault. The blame lays mainly at the feet of the absent non footballing owner, his tenure over the last 30 months has been nothing short of a disaster, he couldn't run a bath. Just tyre remoulds, engines full of sawdust, and wound back clocks. I wouldn't trust him to feed my Goldfish.
Quote from: westcliff white on December 07, 2015, 10:53:01 AMQuote from: Riether Lightning 63 on December 07, 2015, 10:29:13 AMJust checked sky no news on there
Gary Monk just gone from Swansea
Quote from: Chesh on December 07, 2015, 11:07:18 AMQuote from: spikey norman on December 07, 2015, 10:28:50 AM
Did anyone catch Danny Murphy on Talk Sport this morning.
Only caught tail end of him talking about who should be our next manager/coach but I think he was suggesting Alan Stubbs would be a good option.
No, to be fair they were discussing Reading at that point, and Murphy was just saying that Alan Stubbs was a solid option.
Earlier on he had said he had no idea who was in the running for us, but he did say it was better to wait and get the right fit, rather than rush into non-perfect choices, as we had to get it right this time.
He definitely wasn't suggesting Stubbs for us
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on December 07, 2015, 12:19:45 PM
another season written off................arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggghhhhhhhh :dft007:
Quote from: filham on December 07, 2015, 12:29:24 PM
We have spent four weeks looking for the new Head Coach without success.
The tough game against Brentford at home on Saturday is really the first of a Christmas programme comprising six games in four weeks . Just now , with only two points from the last five games we are showing relegation form. If the bad form continues over Christmas we could easily find ourselves in a new year relegation scrap.
We are desperate for the Head Coach to be appointed immediately , Riggs has run out of time and must grab whoever is available and willing, his promise not to be rushed into anything has to be forgotten. Time is now of the essence.
Essential the new man has the full support of the fans when he arrives.
Quote from: jelmo on December 07, 2015, 12:39:39 PMQuote from: filham on December 07, 2015, 12:29:24 PM
We have spent four weeks looking for the new Head Coach without success.
The tough game against Brentford at home on Saturday is really the first of a Christmas programme comprising six games in four weeks . Just now , with only two points from the last five games we are showing relegation form. If the bad form continues over Christmas we could easily find ourselves in a new year relegation scrap.
We are desperate for the Head Coach to be appointed immediately , Riggs has run out of time and must grab whoever is available and willing, his promise not to be rushed into anything has to be forgotten. Time is now of the essence.
Essential the new man has the full support of the fans when he arrives.
Nah. If Gray is hired then my growing apathy towards our badly run club will just continue to grow.
Can't see myself spending the cash to renew next season if there is no sign of things changing and some ambition/signs of progress being made.
Lets be honest, who actually enjoys going to games these days? I only enjoy the bit after the match finishes when I go to the pub with my mates! The actual football itself hasnt been worth the money of a season ticket for a long while. Cant see a journeyman like Gray changing that!
Quote from: Chutney on December 07, 2015, 01:08:13 PM
I am done. I didn't think they'd sink so low, still clinging on to some hope that it isn't him....
Quote from: f321ffc on December 07, 2015, 01:10:09 PM
"Simon Peach @SimonPeach 11m11 minutes ago
I am told former #SWFC boss Stuart Gray took training at managerless #FFC today"
If true i hope he has had them doing the boring repetitive defensive drills.
Quote from: The Enclosurite on December 07, 2015, 01:25:19 PM
It's interesting to see the majority of Sheffield Wednesday fans on Twitter seem to think he's a actually good appointment for us and will do well.
Quote from: f321ffc on December 07, 2015, 01:10:09 PM
"Simon Peach @SimonPeach 11m11 minutes ago
I am told former #SWFC boss Stuart Gray took training at managerless #FFC today"
If true i hope he has had them doing the boring repetitive defensive drills.
Quote from: BobbyTheBrain on December 07, 2015, 01:30:59 PM
I have to chuckle at people trying to shine up this turd of an appointment.
Quote from: The Enclosurite on December 07, 2015, 01:25:19 PM
It's interesting to see the majority of Sheffield Wednesday fans on Twitter seem to think he's a actually good appointment for us and will do well.
Quote from: Fulham76 on December 07, 2015, 01:34:45 PMQuite often a coach takes trianing before any announcement, exactly what QPR and Brentford did last weekQuote from: f321ffc on December 07, 2015, 01:10:09 PM
"Simon Peach @SimonPeach 11m11 minutes ago
I am told former #SWFC boss Stuart Gray took training at managerless #FFC today"
If true i hope he has had them doing the boring repetitive defensive drills.
If true, good of the club to let us know.
Quote from: Riether Lightning 63 on December 07, 2015, 01:37:52 PMI want this thread locked as soon as fulham tweet......"We are happy to....."
BTW, if you guys could give this thread another 2,000 views before he is OFFICIALLY announced, that'd be great.
That way I'm on the podium for most views AND posts
Quote from: westcliff white on December 07, 2015, 01:41:35 PMQuote from: Fulham76 on December 07, 2015, 01:34:45 PMQuite often a coach takes trianing before any announcement, exactly what QPR and Brentford did last weekQuote from: f321ffc on December 07, 2015, 01:10:09 PM
"Simon Peach @SimonPeach 11m11 minutes ago
I am told former #SWFC boss Stuart Gray took training at managerless #FFC today"
If true i hope he has had them doing the boring repetitive defensive drills.
If true, good of the club to let us know.
Quote from: Fulham76 on December 07, 2015, 01:50:16 PMYep it isnt uncommon, JFH was announced last week around 3ish having done the morning session and Dean Smith on a similar time scale.Quote from: westcliff white on December 07, 2015, 01:41:35 PMQuote from: Fulham76 on December 07, 2015, 01:34:45 PMQuite often a coach takes trianing before any announcement, exactly what QPR and Brentford did last weekQuote from: f321ffc on December 07, 2015, 01:10:09 PM
"Simon Peach @SimonPeach 11m11 minutes ago
I am told former #SWFC boss Stuart Gray took training at managerless #FFC today"
If true i hope he has had them doing the boring repetitive defensive drills.
If true, good of the club to let us know.
Really??? Well I'll look forward to the big announcement later today then.
Quote from: The Enclosurite on December 07, 2015, 01:25:19 PM
It's interesting to see the majority of Sheffield Wednesday fans on Twitter seem to think he's a actually good appointment for us and will do well.
Quote from: Horsfield_No9 on December 07, 2015, 02:07:43 PMRoy had a proven track record across several countries, Stuart Gray hasnt achieved anything, ever.
I guess Roy wasn't a popular choice and was out of the blue like this. That turned out alright despite the slow start. I'm happy to get behind Gray and hope that this is his coming of age job. I do like the fact that like Roy he can organise a defense. I don't think anyone has managed that since Roy.
Let's support the new coach.
Quote from: Chutney on December 07, 2015, 02:12:57 PMQuote from: Horsfield_No9 on December 07, 2015, 02:07:43 PMRoy had a proven track record across several countries, Stuart Gray hasnt achieved anything, ever.
I guess Roy wasn't a popular choice and was out of the blue like this. That turned out alright despite the slow start. I'm happy to get behind Gray and hope that this is his coming of age job. I do like the fact that like Roy he can organise a defense. I don't think anyone has managed that since Roy.
Let's support the new coach.
Quote from: Horsfield_No9 on December 07, 2015, 02:07:43 PM
I guess Roy wasn't a popular choice and was out of the blue like this. That turned out alright despite the slow start. I'm happy to get behind Gray and hope that this is his coming of age job. I do like the fact that like Roy he can organise a defense. I don't think anyone has managed that since Roy.
Let's support the new coach.
Quote from: BobbyTheBrain on December 07, 2015, 02:14:57 PMQuote from: Horsfield_No9 on December 07, 2015, 02:07:43 PM
I guess Roy wasn't a popular choice and was out of the blue like this. That turned out alright despite the slow start. I'm happy to get behind Gray and hope that this is his coming of age job. I do like the fact that like Roy he can organise a defense. I don't think anyone has managed that since Roy.
Let's support the new coach.
To compare Roy's record when hired to this stiff's is like comparing a meal at a 3 Michelin star restaurant to a big steaming pile of cow dung in a bap. For Christ's sake what is it going to take for some people to stop accepting the constant bumbling failure of Khan, Rigg and co. This is an utterly poo appointment if full time, there'sn o escaping that. The fact he's the 5th choice (lol) appointment says it all. Mediocrity happy lives at FFC.
Quote from: f321ffc on December 07, 2015, 01:10:09 PM
"Simon Peach @SimonPeach 11m11 minutes ago
I am told former #SWFC boss Stuart Gray took training at managerless #FFC today"
If true i hope he has had them doing the boring repetitive defensive drills.
Quote from: Chutney on December 07, 2015, 02:16:24 PMQuote from: BobbyTheBrain on December 07, 2015, 02:14:57 PMQuote from: Horsfield_No9 on December 07, 2015, 02:07:43 PM
I guess Roy wasn't a popular choice and was out of the blue like this. That turned out alright despite the slow start. I'm happy to get behind Gray and hope that this is his coming of age job. I do like the fact that like Roy he can organise a defense. I don't think anyone has managed that since Roy.
Let's support the new coach.
To compare Roy's record when hired to this stiff's is like comparing a meal at a 3 Michelin star restaurant to a big steaming pile of cow dung in a bap. For Christ's sake what is it going to take for some people to stop accepting the constant bumbling failure of Khan, Rigg and co. This is an utterly poo appointment if full time, there'sn o escaping that. The fact he's the 5th choice (lol) appointment says it all. Mediocrity happy lives at FFC.
This isn't even a mediocre appointment, its an outright failure.
Quote from: Funky Fulham Dave on December 07, 2015, 02:13:58 PM
:drums:
For those who never wanted Kit Symons, give a very warm welcome to new manager Stuart Gray who apparently took today's training.
Be careful for what you wish for.
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Quote from: Horsfield_No9 on December 07, 2015, 02:22:56 PMHorse, I agree you never compared their records, i took your point as intended that Roy was not anyone's first choice when he came in and he did OK.Quote from: Chutney on December 07, 2015, 02:16:24 PMQuote from: BobbyTheBrain on December 07, 2015, 02:14:57 PMQuote from: Horsfield_No9 on December 07, 2015, 02:07:43 PM
I guess Roy wasn't a popular choice and was out of the blue like this. That turned out alright despite the slow start. I'm happy to get behind Gray and hope that this is his coming of age job. I do like the fact that like Roy he can organise a defense. I don't think anyone has managed that since Roy.
Let's support the new coach.
To compare Roy's record when hired to this stiff's is like comparing a meal at a 3 Michelin star restaurant to a big steaming pile of cow dung in a bap. For Christ's sake what is it going to take for some people to stop accepting the constant bumbling failure of Khan, Rigg and co. This is an utterly poo appointment if full time, there'sn o escaping that. The fact he's the 5th choice (lol) appointment says it all. Mediocrity happy lives at FFC.
This isn't even a mediocre appointment, its an outright failure.
I'm just trying to be positive and support my club. There's nothing you can do about it so might as well get behind the man and hope it works out.
Quote from: bill taylors apprentice on December 07, 2015, 02:53:46 PMWell unless you have a 400 mile round trip i would say slim.
I've got to go out to collect my daring daughter from school in a mo.
What's the chances of an announcement by the time we return?
Quote from: Asotosyios on December 07, 2015, 02:48:17 PMSo how much £££ on the betafair market was that change?
Jokanovic's odds slashed on both Betfair (1.88) and Skybet (15/8).
Quote from: f321ffc on December 07, 2015, 02:58:23 PMQuote from: bill taylors apprentice on December 07, 2015, 02:53:46 PMWell unless you have a 400 mile round trip i would say slim.
I've got to go out to collect my daring daughter from school in a mo.
What's the chances of an announcement by the time we return?
Quote from: HamsterWheel on December 07, 2015, 03:44:05 PM
Finally !
"Fulham Football Club are please to announce the following appointments to the managerial team:
Offensive Linebacker Coach - Slavisa Jokanovic
Defensive Coach - Stuart Gray
Team Picker and head Statistical Managerial Analyserer - Tony Khan
Chief Opening Mouth Before Thinking Spokesperson - Mike Rigg
Shady Character Sat In The Stand Doing Mysterious Things - Alan Curbishley
The Club hopes that the Fanpersons will support the new team structure.
Lets Play Ball !
Quote from: HamsterWheel on December 07, 2015, 03:44:05 PM
Finally !
"Fulham Football Club are please to announce the following appointments to the managerial team:
Offensive Linebacker Coach - Slavisa Jokanovic
Defensive Coach - Stuart Gray
Team Picker and head Statistical Managerial Analyserer - Tony Khan
Chief Opening Mouth Before Thinking Spokesperson - Mike Rigg
Shady Character Sat In The Stand Doing Mysterious Things - Alan Curbishley
The Club hopes that the Fanpersons will support the new team structure.
Lets Play Ball !
Quote from: HamsterWheel on December 07, 2015, 03:44:05 PMThat's a cracker!
Finally !
"Fulham Football Club are please to announce the following appointments to the managerial team:
Offensive Linebacker Coach - Slavisa Jokanovic
Defensive Coach - Stuart Gray
Team Picker and head Statistical Managerial Analyserer - Tony Khan
Chief Opening Mouth Before Thinking Spokesperson - Mike Rigg
Shady Character Sat In The Stand Doing Mysterious Things - Alan Curbishley
The Club hopes that the Fanpersons will support the new team structure.
Lets Play Ball !
Quote from: HamsterWheel on December 07, 2015, 03:44:05 PM
Finally !
"Fulham Football Club are please to announce the following appointments to the managerial team:
Offensive Linebacker Coach - Slavisa Jokanovic
Defensive Coach - Stuart Gray
Team Picker and head Statistical Managerial Analyserer - Tony Khan
Chief Opening Mouth Before Thinking Spokesperson - Mike Rigg
Shady Character Sat In The Stand Doing Mysterious Things - Alan Curbishley
The Club hopes that the Fanpersons will support the new team structure.
Lets Play Ball !
Quote from: HamsterWheel on December 07, 2015, 03:44:05 PM
Finally !
"Fulham Football Club are please to announce the following appointments to the managerial team:
Offensive Linebacker Coach - Slavisa Jokanovic
Defensive Coach - Stuart Gray
Team Picker and head Statistical Managerial Analyserer - Tony Khan
Chief Opening Mouth Before Thinking Spokesperson - Mike Rigg
Shady Character Sat In The Stand Doing Mysterious Things - Alan Curbishley
The Club hopes that the Fanpersons will support the new team structure.
Lets Play Ball !
Quote from: Holders on December 07, 2015, 04:26:37 PM
Is a line backer anything like a chew backer?
Quote from: HamsterWheel on December 07, 2015, 03:44:05 PM
Finally !
"Fulham Football Club are please to announce the following appointments to the managerial team:
Offensive Linebacker Coach - Slavisa Jokanovic
Defensive Coach - Stuart Gray
Team Picker and head Statistical Managerial Analyserer - Tony Khan
Chief Opening Mouth Before Thinking Spokesperson - Mike Rigg
Shady Character Sat In The Stand Doing Mysterious Things - Alan Curbishley
The Club hopes that the Fanpersons will support the new team structure.
Lets Play Ball !
Quote from: Riether Lightning 63 on December 07, 2015, 05:25:42 PMCongratulations.
THAT'S IT!!! INTO THE RECORD BOOKS!!!
3rd most replies in a post, and now 3rd most views.
Thankyou all so much for playing your part
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on December 07, 2015, 05:35:02 PMQuote from: Riether Lightning 63 on December 07, 2015, 05:25:42 PMCongratulations.
THAT'S IT!!! INTO THE RECORD BOOKS!!!
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Thankyou all so much for playing your part
Get hold of the club and ask them to put off the Announcement of a new Manager until you have hit the 150,000 mark. Dont give up now RL63.
Quote from: J on December 07, 2015, 05:42:52 PMQuote from: Fulham Tup North on December 07, 2015, 05:35:02 PMQuote from: Riether Lightning 63 on December 07, 2015, 05:25:42 PMCongratulations.
THAT'S IT!!! INTO THE RECORD BOOKS!!!
3rd most replies in a post, and now 3rd most views.
Thankyou all so much for playing your part
Get hold of the club and ask them to put off the Announcement of a new Manager until you have hit the 150,000 mark. Dont give up now RL63.
Quote from: J on December 07, 2015, 05:42:52 PMQuote from: Fulham Tup North on December 07, 2015, 05:35:02 PMQuote from: Riether Lightning 63 on December 07, 2015, 05:25:42 PMCongratulations.
THAT'S IT!!! INTO THE RECORD BOOKS!!!
3rd most replies in a post, and now 3rd most views.
Thankyou all so much for playing your part
Get hold of the club and ask them to put off the Announcement of a new Manager until you have hit the 150,000 mark. Dont give up now RL63.
Quote from: Riether Lightning 63 on December 07, 2015, 05:25:42 PM
THAT'S IT!!! INTO THE RECORD BOOKS!!!
3rd most replies in a post, and now 3rd most views.
Thankyou all so much for playing your part
Quote from: Nero on December 07, 2015, 05:44:55 PMQuote from: J on December 07, 2015, 05:42:52 PMQuote from: Fulham Tup North on December 07, 2015, 05:35:02 PMQuote from: Riether Lightning 63 on December 07, 2015, 05:25:42 PMCongratulations.
THAT'S IT!!! INTO THE RECORD BOOKS!!!
3rd most replies in a post, and now 3rd most views.
Thankyou all so much for playing your part
Get hold of the club and ask them to put off the Announcement of a new Manager until you have hit the 150,000 mark. Dont give up now RL63.
Quote from: J on December 07, 2015, 05:42:52 PMQuote from: Fulham Tup North on December 07, 2015, 05:35:02 PMQuote from: Riether Lightning 63 on December 07, 2015, 05:25:42 PMCongratulations.
THAT'S IT!!! INTO THE RECORD BOOKS!!!
3rd most replies in a post, and now 3rd most views.
Thankyou all so much for playing your part
Get hold of the club and ask them to put off the Announcement of a new Manager until you have hit the 150,000 mark. Dont give up now RL63.
Quote from: Riether Lightning 63 on December 07, 2015, 05:25:42 PMit's not over yet
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Quote from: @jolslover on December 07, 2015, 08:29:07 PM
people forget Wednesday sacked Gray because they wanted to progress as a club, we are hiring someone who has been sacked by Sheffield Wednesday for not being able to take them to the next level? And we talk about promotion? Gray and Jokanovic however is something I would love to see
Quote from: Hoppus on December 07, 2015, 08:52:39 PMQuote from: @jolslover on December 07, 2015, 08:29:07 PM
people forget Wednesday sacked Gray because they wanted to progress as a club, we are hiring someone who has been sacked by Sheffield Wednesday for not being able to take them to the next level? And we talk about promotion? Gray and Jokanovic however is something I would love to see
Jakonovic and Gray are favorites on the sky bet odds. Lets hope that means Janokovic as manager and Gray as coach
Quote from: Hoppus on December 07, 2015, 08:52:39 PM
Jakonovic and Gray are favorites on the sky bet odds. Lets hope that means Janokovic as manager and Gray as coach
Quote from: alexmur on December 07, 2015, 10:40:09 PM
I'm confused, so has gray taken over as caretaker and and a new coach will be announced later and whoever that is will be the head coach and gray will stay on as assistant? my head hurts trying to get my head around all this.
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Quote from: Twig on December 08, 2015, 07:53:40 AM
All I want is Jokanovic as number 1.
Quote from: Mac_21 on December 08, 2015, 08:15:38 AMExactly, why does gray need to be involved at all?
Jok and Grey would be great at this stage. It will be a very weird working environment, I would guess the two of them have only met a couple of times. Each will be suspicious the other is looking to stab them in the back. Why couldn't Jokanovic get it and bring in his own assistant?
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on December 08, 2015, 02:14:10 AMthanks toodles I took a solpadol, and if what you have said comes through I'd be happy with that.Quote from: alexmur on December 07, 2015, 10:40:09 PM
I'm confused, so has gray taken over as caretaker and and a new coach will be announced later and whoever that is will be the head coach and gray will stay on as assistant? my head hurts trying to get my head around all this.
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Well, take some ibuprofen then. I don't believe anyone knows what the plan is. The only "news" with even a hint of truth to is the reporting that Gray oversaw training Monday.
Everyone seems to believe that he should have been announced afterward (same day). But, since that did not happen, the supposition has been that there might be something else coming as well. Also, Jokanovic's odds dropped at the bookies. So, perhaps the hope is that the Gray announcement is being held until Maccabi have their final CL game on Wednesday and that afterward both will be announced.
That just seems to be the way the rumor winds are blowing today. No telling how they'll blow tomorrow.
Quote from: TheManOnTheBus on December 08, 2015, 08:28:13 AM
Agree - Gray and Jok unlikely to know each other and may not well work well. If true that Gray took training (and may not be of course, the rumour started in Twitter after all), then perhaps they appointed Gray for 2 days until Wed CL is over and Jok is free, perhaps with a "if you get on with each other, perhaps you can stay a little longer". He was out of work so perhaps could do with a "pay as you train" cash deal?
All very strange.
Quote from: Mac_21 on December 08, 2015, 08:15:38 AMI would expect the new boss to have his own right hand man, even if someone like Gray is heading up the backroom coaching set up
Jok and Grey would be great at this stage. It will be a very weird working environment, I would guess the two of them have only met a couple of times. Each will be suspicious the other is looking to stab them in the back. Why couldn't Jokanovic get it and bring in his own assistant?
Quote from: alexbishop on December 08, 2015, 08:34:20 AMI do not usually do this but I had a drink with someone who works at Motspur yesterday evening and mentioned twitter was abuzz with that info, his reply was I didnt see him there at all. Not sure what to expect as a reply when I said that but thats what he said, yesterday was also a closed session from what I understand too, so no pres sin the facility, not sure how true that is either.Quote from: TheManOnTheBus on December 08, 2015, 08:28:13 AM
Agree - Gray and Jok unlikely to know each other and may not well work well. If true that Gray took training (and may not be of course, the rumour started in Twitter after all), then perhaps they appointed Gray for 2 days until Wed CL is over and Jok is free, perhaps with a "if you get on with each other, perhaps you can stay a little longer". He was out of work so perhaps could do with a "pay as you train" cash deal?
All very strange.
Gray taking training wasn't a rumour. It was confirmed by journalists who have been reporting on Fulham for a long time now - eg Simon Peach who is as reliable as they come. He's not the kind of journalist to report on rumours.
Quote from: Bracken White on December 08, 2015, 12:06:25 AMThis does make sense. Maccabi wouldn't announce Jokanovic's departure before the CL fixtures are concluded. They're not going to make the Europa League either. Gray is in charge pro tem because Grant is out of his depth and has pretty much admitted it and Gray has agreed because it's a job (however brief). Whether Gray stays on as coach is another matter but I hope Jokanovic is appointed on Thursday - plus I backed him at 16-1...
Although only rumour the Jokanovic/Gray combination sounds like real sense - and from all the doom & gloom a spark of optimism. There is still a long way to go this season and these are just the guys to do it.
Of course, who knows - but hopefully there will be an announcement after Wednesday's Champions League ties.
Quote from: Nero on December 08, 2015, 09:06:48 AM
I don't know where the jok rumours have come from. So Rigg and Mac go to holland and we get a coach working in Israel. Probably cos someone has put £50 on the odds shorten
Quote from: Ordar on December 08, 2015, 09:41:41 AM
Happy 1 month without a manager day guys!
Symons was sacked 1 month today
Quote from: TheManOnTheBus on December 08, 2015, 09:31:31 AMQuote from: Nero on December 08, 2015, 09:06:48 AM
I don't know where the jok rumours have come from. So Rigg and Mac go to holland and we get a coach working in Israel. Probably cos someone has put £50 on the odds shorten
A classic diversionary tactic. Fly to Israel via Holland - why not?
Quote from: Ordar on December 08, 2015, 09:41:41 AM
Happy 1 month without a manager day guys!
Symons was sacked 1 month today
Quote from: westcliff white on December 08, 2015, 12:04:41 PMThat's the plan. Rigg said:
So Gray is senior coach, interesting title, my guess is he waill stay when the new guy whoever that may be comes in
Quote from: Ordar on December 08, 2015, 12:11:25 PM
Sounds to me like he's effectively going to be a defensive coach in the long term
This I actually have no problems with as our defence is terrible and Gray is meant to be good at that side of coaching.
It does mean however that (unless the incoming HC had say on Gray's appointment, which is possible) the new HC will have to work alongside Gray.
I'm semi expecting it to be Jokanovic now
Although this is taking forever, I did agree with and appreciate everything Rigg said in that announcement
Quote from: alexbishop on December 08, 2015, 12:18:37 PM
this does kind of show we are no closer to appointing a head coach than we were a month ago. This is of course, a bit of a stop gap. However, I do see that bringing Gray in will be an improvement to our existing coaching set up. How that will tie in with whoever does eventually become our Head Coach is anyone's' guess!
Quote from: HamsterWheel on December 08, 2015, 12:12:56 PM
So, now the new "Head Coach" not only has to cope with not being called a manager, but is saddled with having Gray as his senior coach !
Rigg is really digging himself deeper and deeper into that hole.
Just have to hope that the Jokanovic rumour is right, and that he's OK with the set-up.
Quote from: Horsfield_No9 on December 08, 2015, 12:24:14 PMQuote from: HamsterWheel on December 08, 2015, 12:12:56 PM
So, now the new "Head Coach" not only has to cope with not being called a manager, but is saddled with having Gray as his senior coach !
Rigg is really digging himself deeper and deeper into that hole.
Just have to hope that the Jokanovic rumour is right, and that he's OK with the set-up.
This is slightly worrying and slims down the options even more.
Quote from: Chutney on December 08, 2015, 12:30:36 PMI agree with Chutney.Quote from: Horsfield_No9 on December 08, 2015, 12:24:14 PMQuote from: HamsterWheel on December 08, 2015, 12:12:56 PM
So, now the new "Head Coach" not only has to cope with not being called a manager, but is saddled with having Gray as his senior coach !
Rigg is really digging himself deeper and deeper into that hole.
Just have to hope that the Jokanovic rumour is right, and that he's OK with the set-up.
This is slightly worrying and slims down the options even more.
A senior coach is still just a coach, the head coach will be the one implementing his ideas and with the final say. I don't see an issue?
Quote from: Horsfield_No9 on December 08, 2015, 12:24:14 PMQuote from: HamsterWheel on December 08, 2015, 12:12:56 PM
So, now the new "Head Coach" not only has to cope with not being called a manager, but is saddled with having Gray as his senior coach !
Rigg is really digging himself deeper and deeper into that hole.
Just have to hope that the Jokanovic rumour is right, and that he's OK with the set-up.
This is slightly worrying and slims down the options even more.
Quote from: Riether Lightning 63 on December 08, 2015, 12:00:38 PM... and more importantly, "The Search goes on" meaning that this thread still has lots of legs left in it!!
Chief Football Officer Mike Rigg spoke to fulhamfc.com regarding the search for a permanent replacement to lead the First Team.
The search for a permanent Head Coach goes on, but it is important to ensure we focus fully on getting results back on track while this process continues, he said.
With that, I'd like to welcome Stuart Gray, who has joined the Club as Senior Coach and has already begun working with the First Team to prepare for Saturdays home match against Brentford.
Alongside Stuart will be Steve Wigley, who has assisted Stuart in training and will continue in that capacity while joining him in the dugout on match days.
Stuart has a proven track record in both coaching and management with caretaker spells at Burnley and Wolverhampton Wanderers prior to joining Sheffield Wednesday as Head Coach. He also had a full season in charge at Sheffield and secured their highest finish for six years, along with a record number of clean sheets. We all know that we have suffered from defensive frailties all season and Stuart will be focusing on that straight away. He has first-hand knowledge of the Championship and knows how to get the very best out of a group of players, so his work with the First Team will be pivotal as the search continues.
Peter Grant will return to his permanent position of U21s Coach where his management of that group is exceptionally important in the long term development of our younger players and I would like to thank him for his excellent professionalism and commitment dealing with First Team matters over the last few weeks.
We have built some solid foundations at the football Club and ensuring we get the right person in for long term success on the pitch is vital to achieve our targets. This is a scrupulous process to ensure that the person we hire full-time understands the Clubs aims and philosophy and can deliver for us, immediately and for the long term. While there has been much speculation linking us with many names, we have not and will not discuss the ongoing process, nor will we appoint someone unless they are 100% committed to the Club and to its future.
Of course I can understand frustrations, not least when results do not go our way, but we are working hard to make sure we get the right appointment as soon as possible. In the interim Stuart has proven coaching expertise and will enable us to stabilise the First Team and when a Head Coach appointment is made, he will still have a key role within the football Clubs coaching system.
The most important thing now is that we focus fully on the pitch to prepare for Brentford and the busy Christmas period ahead, and get back to winning football matches and improving our position in the table. We have every expectation to do so.
Quote from: grandad on December 08, 2015, 01:19:30 PM
I applaud Khan & Rigg in the way they are approaching the team management & coaching situation. They are not panicking into signing just anybody just to appease a few supporters. The hiring of Gray as an interim measure is sensible while they calmly go about the search for a suitable long term solution.
Khan is nobodies fool & i am grateful that he is not being bullied by greedy prospective candidates or their agents.
Unlike MAF, who was not hampered with FFP regulations, Khan is running the club within its means.
I do not believe we will have an embargo imposed as we are just one of 30 clubs who have had to submit their own financial statement. They are the 24 Championship clubs plus the 3 teams that came down & the 3 that were promoted from League 1.
Quote from: grandad on December 08, 2015, 01:19:30 PM
I applaud Khan & Rigg in the way they are approaching the team management & coaching situation. They are not panicking into signing just anybody just to appease a few supporters. The hiring of Gray as an interim measure is sensible while they calmly go about the search for a suitable long term solution.
Khan is nobodies fool & i am grateful that he is not being bullied by greedy prospective candidates or their agents.
Unlike MAF, who was not hampered with FFP regulations, Khan is running the club within its means.
I do not believe we will have an embargo imposed as we are just one of 30 clubs who have had to submit their own financial statement. They are the 24 Championship clubs plus the 3 teams that came down & the 3 that were promoted from League 1.
Quote from: Lighthouse on December 08, 2015, 12:26:03 PM
I think we have to be honest here. The caretaker manager Peter Grant wasn't good and didn't want the job. So we have brought in an outside caretaker coach who has been promised a job in the long term. Meanwhile it has been over a month and we are still without a manager, head coach etc.
Even if we now employ a top class name. This whole thing has been more than frustrating. We don't know what has gone on behind the scenes. But from the outside looking in it smacks of incompetence.
Quote from: alexmur on December 08, 2015, 01:14:34 PM
warning massive speculation below
gray appointment today buys the club some time till after xmas when moyes wants to get back to work. gray will be his assistant.
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Quote from: bill taylors apprentice on December 08, 2015, 12:40:44 PMQuote from: Horsfield_No9 on December 08, 2015, 12:24:14 PMQuote from: HamsterWheel on December 08, 2015, 12:12:56 PM
So, now the new "Head Coach" not only has to cope with not being called a manager, but is saddled with having Gray as his senior coach !
Rigg is really digging himself deeper and deeper into that hole.
Just have to hope that the Jokanovic rumour is right, and that he's OK with the set-up.
This is slightly worrying and slims down the options even more.
Ferguson, Shankly, Stein, Mourinho, Clough and even Symons had a No 2, sometimes a close friend, sometimes just another coach.
Shouldn't be a problem.
Quote from: SG on December 08, 2015, 02:44:44 PMha not related to either, just really want him to be the man for the job, the way things are going anything could happen.Quote from: alexmur on December 08, 2015, 01:14:34 PM
warning massive speculation below
gray appointment today buys the club some time till after xmas when moyes wants to get back to work. gray will be his assistant.
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I admire your persistence with Mr Moyes. Are you related to him or his agent ?!!
Quote from: ron on December 08, 2015, 02:47:50 PMwouldn't it be great if it happened
I still hope for and fancy Moyes to arrive at the end of all this mayhem too.
Quote from: J on December 08, 2015, 03:36:07 PMit's definitely going to be difficult situation for those who put money on gray. it's pretty clear he is just there as a coach, and caretaker till they appoint a head coach. so I doubt they will pay out.
weeeeell... Gray's appointment is permanent, just not as "manager". But we aren't going to appoint a manager in any case.
Quote from: HamsterWheel on December 08, 2015, 03:31:07 PM
There'll be no controversy - they all have their rules.
Betfair's for example:
"Who will be appointed as the next first team manager of the named club?
1. Subject to paragraph 2, an appointment described by the named club as 'interim', 'caretaker', 'temporary' (including an appointment described as 'to the end of the season') or similar, will not constitute first team manager.
2. Notwithstanding paragraph 1, an individual appointed by the named club on an 'interim', 'caretaker', 'temporary' (including an appointment described as 'to the end of the season') or similar basis who remains manager in that capacity for at least 10 completed consecutive Domestic League games (including over the course of more than a single season), will be considered to have been appointed as the next first team manager for the purpose of this market and Betfair will settle the market accordingly on that person.
3. The actual duration of the manager's contract will not be relevant for the purpose of this market.
4. This market will be settled using official information provided by the named club. Betfair will not be under any obligation to contact the named club for confirmation regarding the nature of the appointment. Betfair reserves the right to wait for further official announcements before the market is settled.
5. In the event that the named club change the structure of their management team and do not call the appointed individual first team manager, Betfair will settle the market on the individual who is responsible for picking the first team. In the event of any ambiguity over the appointment, Betfair may determine using its reasonable discretion how to settle the market based on all the information available to it at the relevant time.
6. Betfair will NOT be responsible for suspending the market when an official announcement is made by the named club. However, Betfair will suspend the market as soon as it becomes aware of an official announcement by the named club. Customers are responsible for all bets placed on this market at ALL times. Runners will be added on request subject to Betfair's absolute discretion."
Quote from: HamsterWheel on December 08, 2015, 03:39:23 PMWell, my bet on Jokanovic is categorised as 'open' so Sky Bet don't appear to have concluded that Gray is the next 'manager'. Interestingly, Sky do not consider that 'director of football' constitutes a manager - not that the Club has used that phrase. It is down to who chooses the team, apparently. Jokanovic I hope.
yes, and if Gray were to pick the team for 10 matches then they'd pay out on him. But hopefully Fulham will have found a Head Coach by then !
Quote from: clarkey on December 08, 2015, 06:10:09 PM
I think some of you are extremely generous in your analysis of how the management at Fulham have reacted to this. The truth is they created a situation by sacking Kit that they did not plan for, otherwise they would have appointed Gray straight away. They had no real action plan.
Secondly if they thought a new coach, namely Gray, could help the defence why didn't they appoint him under Kit and say sorry Kit, but you need to get that back four sorted.Here is someone who can do it for you.You look after the rest.
Thirdly why turn to Grey so late in the day, we have after all, failed to win since Kit's days.Why not implement this master plan in week one. Answer: Because they hadn't thought of it then.
Finally by appointing Grey they either have a new head coach in mind who is OK with him being on board, or they haven't got somebody-in which case they have made the search even harder and more complicated because no-one wants their staff chosen for them. It smells of panic and grasping at straws.You can also add why did they keep Curbs on the payroll and why did they approach Clark so publicly.
Let's face it Gray might not be a top flight coach but if we keep a few clean sheets the top management will look stupid for not getting him in before. If we leak goals then ditto.
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on December 08, 2015, 03:09:45 PM[/b]Quote from: bill taylors apprentice on December 08, 2015, 12:40:44 PMQuote from: Horsfield_No9 on December 08, 2015, 12:24:14 PMQuote from: HamsterWheel on December 08, 2015, 12:12:56 PM
So, now the new "Head Coach" not only has to cope with not being called a manager, but is saddled with having Gray as his senior coach !
Rigg is really digging himself deeper and deeper into that hole.
Just have to hope that the Jokanovic rumour is right, and that he's OK with the set-up.
This is slightly worrying and slims down the options even more.
Ferguson, Shankly, Stein, Mourinho, Clough and even Symons had a No 2, sometimes a close friend, sometimes just another coach.
Shouldn't be a problem.
. . . and Hodgson came in and worked with Lewington.
Quote from: rubbernecca on December 08, 2015, 08:04:45 PMQuote from: clarkey on December 08, 2015, 06:10:09 PM
I think some of you are extremely generous in your analysis of how the management at Fulham have reacted to this. The truth is they created a situation by sacking Kit that they did not plan for, otherwise they would have appointed Gray straight away. They had no real action plan.
Secondly if they thought a new coach, namely Gray, could help the defence why didn't they appoint him under Kit and say sorry Kit, but you need to get that back four sorted.Here is someone who can do it for you.You look after the rest.
Thirdly why turn to Grey so late in the day, we have after all, failed to win since Kit's days.Why not implement this master plan in week one. Answer: Because they hadn't thought of it then.
Finally by appointing Grey they either have a new head coach in mind who is OK with him being on board, or they haven't got somebody-in which case they have made the search even harder and more complicated because no-one wants their staff chosen for them. It smells of panic and grasping at straws.You can also add why did they keep Curbs on the payroll and why did they approach Clark so publicly.
Let's face it Gray might not be a top flight coach but if we keep a few clean sheets the top management will look stupid for not getting him in before. If we leak goals then ditto.
good points all
it's a positive step but desperately needed to stop the self inflicted bleeding
Quote from: Neil D on December 08, 2015, 07:34:57 PMQuote from: HamsterWheel on December 08, 2015, 03:39:23 PMWell, my bet on Jokanovic is categorised as 'open' so Sky Bet don't appear to have concluded that Gray is the next 'manager'. Interestingly, Sky do not consider that 'director of football' constitutes a manager - not that the Club has used that phrase. It is down to who chooses the team, apparently. Jokanovic I hope.
yes, and if Gray were to pick the team for 10 matches then they'd pay out on him. But hopefully Fulham will have found a Head Coach by then !
Quote from: rubbernecca on December 08, 2015, 08:04:45 PMMore supposition here. What about if Fulham have found the Head Coach and he has agreed Gray as his no2. The new man not able to take the post yet but will do soon.Quote from: clarkey on December 08, 2015, 06:10:09 PM
I think some of you are extremely generous in your analysis of how the management at Fulham have reacted to this. The truth is they created a situation by sacking Kit that they did not plan for, otherwise they would have appointed Gray straight away. They had no real action plan.
Secondly if they thought a new coach, namely Gray, could help the defence why didn't they appoint him under Kit and say sorry Kit, but you need to get that back four sorted.Here is someone who can do it for you.You look after the rest.
Thirdly why turn to Grey so late in the day, we have after all, failed to win since Kit's days.Why not implement this master plan in week one. Answer: Because they hadn't thought of it then.
Finally by appointing Grey they either have a new head coach in mind who is OK with him being on board, or they haven't got somebody-in which case they have made the search even harder and more complicated because no-one wants their staff chosen for them. It smells of panic and grasping at straws.You can also add why did they keep Curbs on the payroll and why did they approach Clark so publicly.
Let's face it Gray might not be a top flight coach but if we keep a few clean sheets the top management will look stupid for not getting him in before. If we leak goals then ditto.
good points all
it's a positive step but desperately needed to stop the self inflicted bleeding
Quote from: Nero on December 08, 2015, 09:02:13 PMIt must have been my bet - £2!Quote from: Neil D on December 08, 2015, 07:34:57 PMQuote from: HamsterWheel on December 08, 2015, 03:39:23 PMWell, my bet on Jokanovic is categorised as 'open' so Sky Bet don't appear to have concluded that Gray is the next 'manager'. Interestingly, Sky do not consider that 'director of football' constitutes a manager - not that the Club has used that phrase. It is down to who chooses the team, apparently. Jokanovic I hope.
yes, and if Gray were to pick the team for 10 matches then they'd pay out on him. But hopefully Fulham will have found a Head Coach by then !
How much did you put on its probably your bet that shortend the odds
Quote from: clarkey on December 09, 2015, 07:04:05 AMwhat alot of people forget is MAF did not have to deal with ffp and had the option of solving problems with heeps of cash, out current owner does not have that luxury and despite his massive wealth he has his hands tied when it comes to doing things the way we would like.
Fulham Stu, nice optimism but the club needs to be better run, we have been a really badly ordered place since the new owner came in. I don't think it is entirely his fault but the middle management ie Macintosh has been woeful.Look how they handled the fight against relegation if I was Khan I would seriously be considering getting a new structure in, it will take him an hour of his time but would be time well spent !
They seem capable of seeing that there is a problem but fail to understand that each decision made leads to another decision making process-perhaps they just need a list.Grant was a typical example of lack of foresight.
I think we became accustomed to good practise under MAF...every detail was attended to and the management structure was robust enough to sustain.Sure there were mistakes but there was a feeling of progress and planning. Plus there was innovation in so many areas (the ground, the website, the PR, the programme, the supporters' groups, the training ground etc etc). We won't see much of that in the next two/three years.It's a shame.
Quote from: clarkey on December 09, 2015, 07:04:05 AM
Fulham Stu, nice optimism but the club needs to be better run, we have been a really badly ordered place since the new owner came in. I don't think it is entirely his fault but the middle management ie Macintosh has been woeful.Look how they handled the fight against relegation if I was Khan I would seriously be considering getting a new structure in, it will take him an hour of his time but would be time well spent !
They seem capable of seeing that there is a problem but fail to understand that each decision made leads to another decision making process-perhaps they just need a list.Grant was a typical example of lack of foresight.
I think we became accustomed to good practise under MAF...every detail was attended to and the management structure was robust enough to sustain.Sure there were mistakes but there was a feeling of progress and planning. Plus there was innovation in so many areas (the ground, the website, the PR, the programme, the supporters' groups, the training ground etc etc). We won't see much of that in the next two/three years.It's a shame.
Quote from: clarkey on December 09, 2015, 07:04:05 AMWell I did say this is what I hope for.. what do I expect - no idea really. What I would say is that Khan has already changed the management structure. This is why he bought in Rigg, who is suppose to be a football man. Mackintosh now does the finance and new ground development.
Fulham Stu, nice optimism but the club needs to be better run, we have been a really badly ordered place since the new owner came in. I don't think it is entirely his fault but the middle management ie Macintosh has been woeful.Look how they handled the fight against relegation if I was Khan I would seriously be considering getting a new structure in, it will take him an hour of his time but would be time well spent !
They seem capable of seeing that there is a problem but fail to understand that each decision made leads to another decision making process-perhaps they just need a list.Grant was a typical example of lack of foresight.
I think we became accustomed to good practise under MAF...every detail was attended to and the management structure was robust enough to sustain.Sure there were mistakes but there was a feeling of progress and planning. Plus there was innovation in so many areas (the ground, the website, the PR, the programme, the supporters' groups, the training ground etc etc). We won't see much of that in the next two/three years.It's a shame.
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on December 09, 2015, 11:48:24 AM
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I don't understand this view that we should have a manager with Championship experience to get us promoted who, when he fails, we should replace with a big name. The problem is that the Championship manager who is expected to fail will most likely to set us up the the wrong approach and the wrong players and his failure is highly likely to be that he gets us relegated so we would be back to square one. What we need is a quality manager along the lines of Hodgson or Stock or Tigana who see us as a long term project. We don't want to be planning for a change of manager/Head Coach.
Quote from: Ordar on December 09, 2015, 09:48:14 PMI'm not sure I've mentioned it before but I'd be leaning slightly towards moyes
I think it's extremely unlikely that someone isn't lined up. Be that Jokanovic after the CL, Monk in anticipation of being fired, or Rowett hopeful of renegotiation.
I wouldn't rule out Rodgers or Moyes until they are gone.
Which of those would people prefer?
Quote from: @jolslover on December 09, 2015, 11:36:38 PMYeah but have his odds been slashed yet
Oscar Garcia tweeted a photo of himself on a plane.
Quote from: alexmur on December 09, 2015, 11:43:39 PMQuote from: @jolslover on December 09, 2015, 11:36:38 PMYeah but have his odds been slashed yet
Oscar Garcia tweeted a photo of himself on a plane.
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Quote from: Neil D on December 10, 2015, 11:51:41 AM
Jokanovic anticipates problems managing Fulham (borrowed verbatim from Maccabi website):
"Issues throughout the campaign on set pieces:
"We made a mistakes on free kicks and corner kicks and this complicates things. When we didn't put ourselves in the right places on the pitch the other teams punished us for that."
We are ready!!!
— Ruben Martinez (@rubenmaca) December 10, 2015
Here we go!!!!
Quote from: NJFulham on December 10, 2015, 12:54:30 PMInteresting. So, this is how it's going down: Garcia is on his way back to Maccabi which will free Jokanovic to take up his post as head coach here. Done and dusted or maybe Garcia is coming here directly. Either way works for me.
Oscar Garcia's no. 2 just tweeted thisWe are ready!!!
— Ruben Martinez (@rubenmaca) December 10, 2015
Here we go!!!!
Quote from: Neil D on December 10, 2015, 01:01:06 PMQuote from: NJFulham on December 10, 2015, 12:54:30 PMInteresting. So, this is how it's going down: Garcia is on his way back to Maccabi which will free Jokanovic to take up his post as head coach here. Done and dusted or maybe Garcia is coming here directly. Either way works for me.
Oscar Garcia's no. 2 just tweeted thisWe are ready!!!
— Ruben Martinez (@rubenmaca) December 10, 2015
Here we go!!!!
Quote from: f321ffc on December 10, 2015, 01:24:39 PM'...has Oscar among the aspirants...' Not sure about Mrs Lambert though. Do you have a source?
El Fulham, a 8 puntos del play off de ascenso en la segunda división inglesa, tiene a Òscar entre los aspirantes a un cargo para el que también suenan Bruce, Pearson o Lamber
Translation, well sort of.
Fulham, to 8 points of the play offs for promotion in the English second division, has to Òscar between the aspirants to a post that also dream Bruce Pearson or Mrs Lambert
Quote from: Neil D on December 10, 2015, 01:29:07 PMFrom Sport.ES link below.Quote from: f321ffc on December 10, 2015, 01:24:39 PM'...has Oscar among the aspirants...' Not sure about Mrs Lambert though. Do you have a source?
El Fulham, a 8 puntos del play off de ascenso en la segunda división inglesa, tiene a Òscar entre los aspirantes a un cargo para el que también suenan Bruce, Pearson o Lamber
Translation, well sort of.
Fulham, to 8 points of the play offs for promotion in the English second division, has to Òscar between the aspirants to a post that also dream Bruce Pearson or Mrs Lambert
Quote from: f321ffc on December 10, 2015, 01:24:39 PMlol Mrs LambertQuote from: Neil D on December 10, 2015, 01:01:06 PMQuote from: NJFulham on December 10, 2015, 12:54:30 PMInteresting. So, this is how it's going down: Garcia is on his way back to Maccabi which will free Jokanovic to take up his post as head coach here. Done and dusted or maybe Garcia is coming here directly. Either way works for me.
Oscar Garcia's no. 2 just tweeted thisWe are ready!!!
— Ruben Martinez (@rubenmaca) December 10, 2015
Here we go!!!!
El Fulham, a 8 puntos del play off de ascenso en la segunda división inglesa, tiene a Òscar entre los aspirantes a un cargo para el que también suenan Bruce, Pearson o Lamber
Translation, well sort of.
Fulham, to 8 points of the play offs for promotion in the English second division, has to Òscar between the aspirants to a post that also dream Bruce Pearson or Mrs Lambert
Quote from: f321ffc on December 10, 2015, 01:37:46 PMBut why would this be relevant - it's from over a month ago?
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JORDI WHITE
9-11-2015 | 5:06 PM H.
Òscar Garcia, that maintains a good poster in England from which led to the Brighton to the play-offs for promotion in the season 2013-14, would be among the coaches that handles the Fulham to replace Kit Symons, who was stopped on Sunday after the Birmingham golease to the cottagers by 2-5.
The team in London, declined from the Premier in May of 2014, began the tempornottiada among the favorites to fight for the promotion, but after 16 days is already 14 points below the Brighton, second and in direct ascent, and 8 of the own Birmingham after winning only two of the last eight matches garters.
Paul Lambert, former coach of Aston Villa, Nigel Pearson, ceased in June by the Leicester, Uwe Rösler, addressed to the Leeds United, and Steve Bruce, who directs the Hull City, are the other candidates they have to work with the leaders of the Fulham to take charge of the team from Craven Cottage.
Òscar began his career as a coach at the helm of the Catalan team sub'18, conquering the Spanish championship and reconciling the post with the assistant Johan Cruyff in the absolute until in 2010 he was appointed coach of the youth team of the Club, with which he conquered the triplet in his first season.
Quote from: Chesh on December 10, 2015, 01:55:10 PMDamn - didn't spot that. Oh well, back to the barrel...Ooops. Does anyone know what happened to the barrel the bottom of which we have been scraping these past four weeks?
relevant - it's from over a month ago?
Quote from: Chesh on December 10, 2015, 01:55:10 PMWell spotted Ches, just something i came across this morning, clutching at straws comes to mind. fp.gifQuote from: f321ffc on December 10, 2015, 01:37:46 PMBut why would this be relevant - it's from over a month ago?
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JORDI WHITE
9-11-2015 | 5:06 PM H.
Òscar Garcia, that maintains a good poster in England from which led to the Brighton to the play-offs for promotion in the season 2013-14, would be among the coaches that handles the Fulham to replace Kit Symons, who was stopped on Sunday after the Birmingham golease to the cottagers by 2-5.
The team in London, declined from the Premier in May of 2014, began the tempornottiada among the favorites to fight for the promotion, but after 16 days is already 14 points below the Brighton, second and in direct ascent, and 8 of the own Birmingham after winning only two of the last eight matches garters.
Paul Lambert, former coach of Aston Villa, Nigel Pearson, ceased in June by the Leicester, Uwe Rösler, addressed to the Leeds United, and Steve Bruce, who directs the Hull City, are the other candidates they have to work with the leaders of the Fulham to take charge of the team from Craven Cottage.
Òscar began his career as a coach at the helm of the Catalan team sub'18, conquering the Spanish championship and reconciling the post with the assistant Johan Cruyff in the absolute until in 2010 he was appointed coach of the youth team of the Club, with which he conquered the triplet in his first season.
Quote from: f321ffc on December 10, 2015, 02:03:59 PMQuote from: Chesh on December 10, 2015, 01:55:10 PMWell spotted Ches, just something i came across this morning, clutching at straws comes to mind. fp.gifQuote from: f321ffc on December 10, 2015, 01:37:46 PMBut why would this be relevant - it's from over a month ago?
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JORDI WHITE
9-11-2015 | 5:06 PM H.
Òscar Garcia, that maintains a good poster in England from which led to the Brighton to the play-offs for promotion in the season 2013-14, would be among the coaches that handles the Fulham to replace Kit Symons, who was stopped on Sunday after the Birmingham golease to the cottagers by 2-5.
The team in London, declined from the Premier in May of 2014, began the tempornottiada among the favorites to fight for the promotion, but after 16 days is already 14 points below the Brighton, second and in direct ascent, and 8 of the own Birmingham after winning only two of the last eight matches garters.
Paul Lambert, former coach of Aston Villa, Nigel Pearson, ceased in June by the Leicester, Uwe Rösler, addressed to the Leeds United, and Steve Bruce, who directs the Hull City, are the other candidates they have to work with the leaders of the Fulham to take charge of the team from Craven Cottage.
Òscar began his career as a coach at the helm of the Catalan team sub'18, conquering the Spanish championship and reconciling the post with the assistant Johan Cruyff in the absolute until in 2010 he was appointed coach of the youth team of the Club, with which he conquered the triplet in his first season.
Quote from: Loz on December 10, 2015, 02:13:26 PMQuote from: f321ffc on December 10, 2015, 02:03:59 PMQuote from: Chesh on December 10, 2015, 01:55:10 PMWell spotted Ches, just something i came across this morning, clutching at straws comes to mind. fp.gifQuote from: f321ffc on December 10, 2015, 01:37:46 PMBut why would this be relevant - it's from over a month ago?
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JORDI WHITE
9-11-2015 | 5:06 PM H.
Òscar Garcia, that maintains a good poster in England from which led to the Brighton to the play-offs for promotion in the season 2013-14, would be among the coaches that handles the Fulham to replace Kit Symons, who was stopped on Sunday after the Birmingham golease to the cottagers by 2-5.
The team in London, declined from the Premier in May of 2014, began the tempornottiada among the favorites to fight for the promotion, but after 16 days is already 14 points below the Brighton, second and in direct ascent, and 8 of the own Birmingham after winning only two of the last eight matches garters.
Paul Lambert, former coach of Aston Villa, Nigel Pearson, ceased in June by the Leicester, Uwe Rösler, addressed to the Leeds United, and Steve Bruce, who directs the Hull City, are the other candidates they have to work with the leaders of the Fulham to take charge of the team from Craven Cottage.
Òscar began his career as a coach at the helm of the Catalan team sub'18, conquering the Spanish championship and reconciling the post with the assistant Johan Cruyff in the absolute until in 2010 he was appointed coach of the youth team of the Club, with which he conquered the triplet in his first season.
But didn't you find it on Ruben Martinez's (Garcia's number 2) twitter profile? It's up there- he retweeted back in November so must have been interested in us. Now he tweets 'Here we go!', and @JolLover says Garcia tweeted a photo of himself on a plane. We still could be on to something here.
Quote from: SG on December 10, 2015, 05:16:06 PM
its gone so quiet on this front that I have to think the club are doing nothing and hoping that Gray gets a few good results so they can then announce him as the new Head Coach with Wigley as his assistant.
Quote from: J.Perkins on December 10, 2015, 08:34:53 PM
A former Watford assistant, under both Garcia and Jokanovic at Watford, has followed a selection of Championship accounts on Twitter, along with a Fulham related one. Read of that what you will.
Quote from: alexmur on December 10, 2015, 02:05:36 PMI expect Rodgers to return
Swansea looking to get avram grant in
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Quote from: St Eve on December 11, 2015, 02:16:19 AMApparently Rodgers has ruled out going back. Looking at Giggs as wellQuote from: alexmur on December 10, 2015, 02:05:36 PMI expect Rodgers to return
Swansea looking to get avram grant in
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Quote from: westcliff white on December 11, 2015, 07:31:13 AMQuote from: St Eve on December 11, 2015, 02:16:19 AMApparently Rodgers has ruled out going back. Looking at Giggs as wellQuote from: alexmur on December 10, 2015, 02:05:36 PMI expect Rodgers to return
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Quote from: Chutney on December 11, 2015, 09:19:51 AMI was thinking about this earlier, i think you are right , was there a rumour that there would be a joint statement on FFP if true does anyone know when it it?
I really don't think we'll see a decision until we know where we stand with ffp, Rowett will join if we are clear, we need to look elsewhere if we get an embargo.
Quote from: f321ffc on December 11, 2015, 11:13:36 AMThe word hubris springs to mind.
Moyes?
http://talksport.com/football/exclusive-david-moyes-not-interest-swansea-job-ready-return-management-151211177417 (http://talksport.com/football/exclusive-david-moyes-not-interest-swansea-job-ready-return-management-151211177417)
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on December 11, 2015, 11:52:02 AMId be surprised if Moyes thinks that of himself.he has flopped big time in his last two jobs. I'd imagine he will be more picky as if he flops again he could end up on the managers scrap heap.Quote from: Neil D on December 11, 2015, 11:43:21 AMQuote from: f321ffc on December 11, 2015, 11:13:36 AMThe word hubris springs to mind.
Moyes?
http://talksport.com/football/exclusive-david-moyes-not-interest-swansea-job-ready-return-management-151211177417 (http://talksport.com/football/exclusive-david-moyes-not-interest-swansea-job-ready-return-management-151211177417)
The definition of Hubris as defined in the English, Oxford, Collins Dictionary. Excessive Pride, Overly Self Confident, Arrogance.
Hmmm, I see what you mean.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on December 11, 2015, 11:52:02 AMQuote from: Neil D on December 11, 2015, 11:43:21 AMQuote from: f321ffc on December 11, 2015, 11:13:36 AMThe word hubris springs to mind.
Moyes?
http://talksport.com/football/exclusive-david-moyes-not-interest-swansea-job-ready-return-management-151211177417 (http://talksport.com/football/exclusive-david-moyes-not-interest-swansea-job-ready-return-management-151211177417)
The definition of Hubris as defined in the English, Oxford, Collins Dictionary. Excessive Pride, Overly Self Confident, Arrogance.
Hmmm, I see what you mean.
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on December 11, 2015, 12:58:09 PMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on December 11, 2015, 11:52:02 AMQuote from: Neil D on December 11, 2015, 11:43:21 AMQuote from: f321ffc on December 11, 2015, 11:13:36 AMThe word hubris springs to mind.
Moyes?
http://talksport.com/football/exclusive-david-moyes-not-interest-swansea-job-ready-return-management-151211177417 (http://talksport.com/football/exclusive-david-moyes-not-interest-swansea-job-ready-return-management-151211177417)
The definition of Hubris as defined in the English, Oxford, Collins Dictionary. Excessive Pride, Overly Self Confident, Arrogance.
Hmmm, I see what you mean.
I didn't get that impression from reading the article as opposed to just reading the headline.
Moyes says that Monk should have been given more time as though he was thinking that the time the new manager would have to turn matters around would be too short and the expectation for the league position were now too high.
Quote from: Logicalman on December 11, 2015, 01:09:13 PMSwansea gave Monk a three year contract back in May 2014 - this was an act of faith in someone who had no managerial experience prior to Swansea. Why would Moyes consider this shabby treatment? If Moyes thinks he's too good for a Premiership club which isn't even in the relegation zone, then you can imagine what he thinks of managing a mid-ranking Championship side...
Totally agree. I got the impression he was more hacked off with the way Prem teams treat their managers, and I don't feel he would turn down a Championship team solely on the basis of league. If the offer is good, and he is allowed to manage the way he wants and needs to, then it's not above reality that he might consider a Championship team to make his return with.
Quote from: Neil D on December 11, 2015, 02:40:11 PMQuote from: Logicalman on December 11, 2015, 01:09:13 PMSwansea gave Monk a three year contract back in May 2014 - this was an act of faith in someone who had no managerial experience prior to Swansea. Why would Moyes consider this shabby treatment?
Totally agree. I got the impression he was more hacked off with the way Prem teams treat their managers, and I don't feel he would turn down a Championship team solely on the basis of league. If the offer is good, and he is allowed to manage the way he wants and needs to, then it's not above reality that he might consider a Championship team to make his return with.
If Moyes thinks he's too good for a Premiership club which isn't even in the relegation zone, then you can imagine what he thinks of managing a mid-ranking Championship side...
Quote from: Neil D on December 11, 2015, 02:40:11 PMQuote from: Logicalman on December 11, 2015, 01:09:13 PMSwansea gave Monk a three year contract back in May 2014 - this was an act of faith in someone who had no managerial experience prior to Swansea. Why would Moyes consider this shabby treatment? If Moyes thinks he's too good for a Premiership club which isn't even in the relegation zone, then you can imagine what he thinks of managing a mid-ranking Championship side...
Totally agree. I got the impression he was more hacked off with the way Prem teams treat their managers, and I don't feel he would turn down a Championship team solely on the basis of league. If the offer is good, and he is allowed to manage the way he wants and needs to, then it's not above reality that he might consider a Championship team to make his return with.
Quote from: alexmur on December 11, 2015, 04:46:50 PM
I'd give him a shot
http://www.getwestlondon.co.uk/news/west-london-news/read-computer-gamers-letter-applying-10585197 (http://www.getwestlondon.co.uk/news/west-london-news/read-computer-gamers-letter-applying-10585197)
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Quote from: Lighthouse on December 11, 2015, 05:40:26 PM
By Matt Law5:15PM GMT 11 Dec 2015 Comments1 Comment
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Fulham have already seen Steve Clarke, who has since been sacked by Reading, turn down a job offer, while other candidates have ruled themselves out of the running.
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Quote from: Neil D on December 11, 2015, 02:40:11 PMQuote from: Logicalman on December 11, 2015, 01:09:13 PMSwansea gave Monk a three year contract back in May 2014 - this was an act of faith in someone who had no managerial experience prior to Swansea. Why would Moyes consider this shabby treatment? If Moyes thinks he's too good for a Premiership club which isn't even in the relegation zone, then you can imagine what he thinks of managing a mid-ranking Championship side...
Totally agree. I got the impression he was more hacked off with the way Prem teams treat their managers, and I don't feel he would turn down a Championship team solely on the basis of league. If the offer is good, and he is allowed to manage the way he wants and needs to, then it's not above reality that he might consider a Championship team to make his return with.
Quote from: cmg on December 11, 2015, 10:44:31 PM
Hopes dashed again. Another favourite is struck off the list:
"Jetzt also Japan: Nach vielen Trainerstationen in der Bundesliga und einem gescheiterten Engagement in England zieht es Felix Magath nach Asien. Der 62-Jährige hat beim japanischen Erstligisten Sagan Tosu unterschrieben."
translates as:
"So now Japan: After many coach stations in the Bundesliga and a failed commitment in England it pulls Felix Magath to Asia. The 62-year-old has signed with the Japanese first division Sagan Tosu."
One begging phone call from Mr Riggs and our former gaffer high tails it to the other side of the globe.
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on December 12, 2015, 07:01:44 AMQuote from: cmg on December 11, 2015, 10:44:31 PM
Hopes dashed again. Another favourite is struck off the list:
"Jetzt also Japan: Nach vielen Trainerstationen in der Bundesliga und einem gescheiterten Engagement in England zieht es Felix Magath nach Asien. Der 62-Jährige hat beim japanischen Erstligisten Sagan Tosu unterschrieben."
translates as:
"So now Japan: After many coach stations in the Bundesliga and a failed commitment in England it pulls Felix Magath to Asia. The 62-year-old has signed with the Japanese first division Sagan Tosu."
One begging phone call from Mr Riggs and our former gaffer high tails it to the other side of the globe.
felix to japan? expect many cases in the coming months of japanese footballers committing hair kari.
Quote from: rusty shackleford on December 12, 2015, 11:01:01 AMYeah I really don't see the monk thing but if someone would like to sell it to me I'll listen
Id take Garcia or Jokanovic any day of the week over Monk. Dont get the fuss
Quote from: mkras99 on December 12, 2015, 06:41:43 PM
http://m.theargus.co.uk/sport/14141051.Friday_Interview__The_stress_has_gone__now_Oscar_eyes_a_return_to_the_dugout/ (http://m.theargus.co.uk/sport/14141051.Friday_Interview__The_stress_has_gone__now_Oscar_eyes_a_return_to_the_dugout/)
Quote from: BedsFFC on December 12, 2015, 06:52:14 PMQuote from: mkras99 on December 12, 2015, 06:41:43 PM
http://m.theargus.co.uk/sport/14141051.Friday_Interview__The_stress_has_gone__now_Oscar_eyes_a_return_to_the_dugout/ (http://m.theargus.co.uk/sport/14141051.Friday_Interview__The_stress_has_gone__now_Oscar_eyes_a_return_to_the_dugout/)
The last 3 years have really hit me hard in terms of supporting Fulham. I'm ok if we are crap, skint and lower league. Thats what I bought into. I don't support Fulham because I want us to be Man u.
But, we aren't skint, we have just been run so atrociously bad and that has really worn me down.
However, if we can somehow manage to get Oscar to manage us and keep Gray on board, I'd finally think we have turned the corner.
Can the powers that be pull it off?
If we go for Monk, its such a risk.
Quote from: clarkey on December 12, 2015, 07:27:27 AMBy 'Cormack' I assume you actually mean Ross McCormack?
This transfer window will be torture for FFC with a manager less, mid table side (at best) losing players with ambition.
Who in their right mind would stay after this shambolic episode following on from two years ago.
We lose Husband (loan end) Cormack (wants out) Dembele (offers coming from Prem) and Cairney and with Parker and Tunni injured that's not a great squad left-it's just a picture of a club in permanent transition.
Kit should definitely have been given until Xmas and it would have been better to simply add Gray as a defensive coach.
The Kit out brigade assumed there would be a plan...there wasn't.
Quote from: BestOfBrede on December 12, 2015, 09:42:36 PMQuote from: clarkey on December 12, 2015, 07:27:27 AMBy 'Cormack' I assume you actually mean Ross McCormack?
This transfer window will be torture for FFC with a manager less, mid table side (at best) losing players with ambition.
Who in their right mind would stay after this shambolic episode following on from two years ago.
We lose Husband (loan end) Cormack (wants out) Dembele (offers coming from Prem) and Cairney and with Parker and Tunni injured that's not a great squad left-it's just a picture of a club in permanent transition.
Kit should definitely have been given until Xmas and it would have been better to simply add Gray as a defensive coach.
The Kit out brigade assumed there would be a plan...there wasn't.
Disrespectful if so.
Also, again assuming that's who you mean...
Where is it written that he wants out?
You been reading the Sun ?
Quote from: FPT on December 12, 2015, 09:44:33 PMyou lost all creditability after daily mailQuote from: BestOfBrede on December 12, 2015, 09:42:36 PMQuote from: clarkey on December 12, 2015, 07:27:27 AMBy 'Cormack' I assume you actually mean Ross McCormack?
This transfer window will be torture for FFC with a manager less, mid table side (at best) losing players with ambition.
Who in their right mind would stay after this shambolic episode following on from two years ago.
We lose Husband (loan end) Cormack (wants out) Dembele (offers coming from Prem) and Cairney and with Parker and Tunni injured that's not a great squad left-it's just a picture of a club in permanent transition.
Kit should definitely have been given until Xmas and it would have been better to simply add Gray as a defensive coach.
The Kit out brigade assumed there would be a plan...there wasn't.
Disrespectful if so.
Also, again assuming that's who you mean...
Where is it written that he wants out?
You been reading the Sun ?
The Daily Mail suggested that some players want out because of how long we've taken over the new 'manager.' And named Ross McCormack - but only because he's of interest of Sheffield Wednesday. No substance to the story.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on December 12, 2015, 11:33:50 AMQuote from: cmg on December 11, 2015, 10:44:31 PM
Hopes dashed again. Another favourite is struck off the list:
"Jetzt also Japan: Nach vielen Trainerstationen in der Bundesliga und einem gescheiterten Engagement in England zieht es Felix Magath nach Asien. Der 62-Jährige hat beim japanischen Erstligisten Sagan Tosu unterschrieben."
translates as:
"So now Japan: After many coach stations in the Bundesliga and a failed commitment in England it pulls Felix Magath to Asia. The 62-year-old has signed with the Japanese first division Sagan Tosu."
One begging phone call from Mr Riggs and our former gaffer high tails it to the other side of the globe.
Hmmm Magath you say, that name rings a bell, end of story.
Quote from: Neil D on December 13, 2015, 10:30:29 AM
If Garcia is in the frame, then great. Either Garcia or Jokanovic by choice. Monk otherwise.
Quote from: Blanco on December 14, 2015, 08:31:45 AMThat's the fault of too many people making inane posts. Like this one.
This thread has far too many pages.
Quote from: Neil D on December 14, 2015, 09:14:32 AMQuote from: Blanco on December 14, 2015, 08:31:45 AMThat's the fault of too many people making inane posts. Like this one.
This thread has far too many pages.
Quote from: Lighthouse on December 14, 2015, 10:06:18 AM
Coventry City boss Tony Mowbray is emerging as the prime target in Championship club Fulham's hunt for a new manager.
Speaking after the Sky Blues' 1-0 defeat at Sheffield United yesterday, Mowbray stressed that he has had no conversations with the Londoners who are still looking for a replacement after sacking Kit Symons five weeks ago.
But it is understood that the Craven Cottage club are impressed by the way that 52-year-old Mowbray – who signed a two-year deal in the summer – has transformed the Sky Blues from relegation battlers to promotion favourites on a comparative shoestring.
And if they do make a formal approach Mowbray would face a difficult decision as to whether he wants to build on the platform he has established at the Ricoh Arena or step up to a club with deep pockets and ambitions to return to the Premier League.
It certainly makes for an anxious build-up to Christmas for Sky Blues supporters who, despite yesterday's slip at Bramall Lane are convinced he offers them their best chance for many years to become upwardly mobile.
Quote from: Lighthouse on December 14, 2015, 10:06:18 AMjust more rampant speculation
Coventry City boss Tony Mowbray is emerging as the prime target in Championship club Fulham's hunt for a new manager.
Speaking after the Sky Blues' 1-0 defeat at Sheffield United yesterday, Mowbray stressed that he has had no conversations with the Londoners who are still looking for a replacement after sacking Kit Symons five weeks ago.
But it is understood that the Craven Cottage club are impressed by the way that 52-year-old Mowbray – who signed a two-year deal in the summer – has transformed the Sky Blues from relegation battlers to promotion favourites on a comparative shoestring.
And if they do make a formal approach Mowbray would face a difficult decision as to whether he wants to build on the platform he has established at the Ricoh Arena or step up to a club with deep pockets and ambitions to return to the Premier League.
It certainly makes for an anxious build-up to Christmas for Sky Blues supporters who, despite yesterday's slip at Bramall Lane are convinced he offers them their best chance for many years to become upwardly mobile.
Quote from: Wearethewhites on December 14, 2015, 10:58:07 AMQuote from: Lighthouse on December 14, 2015, 10:06:18 AM
Coventry City boss Tony Mowbray is emerging as the prime target in Championship club Fulhams hunt for a new manager.
Speaking after the Sky Blues 1-0 defeat at Sheffield United yesterday, Mowbray stressed that he has had no conversations with the Londoners who are still looking for a replacement after sacking Kit Symons five weeks ago.
But it is understood that the Craven Cottage club are impressed by the way that 52-year-old Mowbray who signed a two-year deal in the summer has transformed the Sky Blues from relegation battlers to promotion favourites on a comparative shoestring.
And if they do make a formal approach Mowbray would face a difficult decision as to whether he wants to build on the platform he has established at the Ricoh Arena or step up to a club with deep pockets and ambitions to return to the Premier League.
It certainly makes for an anxious build-up to Christmas for Sky Blues supporters who, despite yesterdays slip at Bramall Lane are convinced he offers them their best chance for many years to become upwardly mobile.
"Speaking after the Sky Blues 1-0 defeat at Sheffield United yesterday, Mowbray stressed that he has had no conversations with the Londoners who are still looking for a replacement after sacking Kit Symons five weeks ago." Good, hope it continues this way.
Quote from: Riether Lightning 63 on December 14, 2015, 01:08:14 PM
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/jaap-stam-fancies-fulham-job-7006317 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/jaap-stam-fancies-fulham-job-7006317)
Oh please let this be true
Quote from: clarkey on December 14, 2015, 08:16:48 AM
Best of Brede and the others just need to use their brains not read the tabloids, it is obvious that players like Ross will want out if the club continues to be run badly.The Hammersmith End certainly noticed his lack of movement and effort on Saturday-and why does he still take corners when he is a box player.Dangerous free kicks-great, but corners-no.
Secondly it is equally obvious that no new players of any reputation will want to join.
That's why a club needs a good name manager. If you remember FFC had problems recruiting under Kit because of his lack of experience and the turmoil that had gone before.
Why is that disrespectful to use your brains, and what's wrong with being questioning rather than kow towing to the party line and accepting everything you're spoon fed.
On the other hand great vibe on Saturday for the second half, great performance from Moussa.
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on December 14, 2015, 01:21:48 PMYou speak with some veracity, Mr McMoot.
Are you trying to be ironic? First you ask "Why is that disrespectful" and then follow it up with "to use your brains, and what's wrong with being questioning rather than kow towing to the party line and accepting everything you're spoon fed." Maybe some would find questions like this less offensive if less offensive language was used.
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on December 14, 2015, 01:17:38 PMQuote from: Riether Lightning 63 on December 14, 2015, 01:08:14 PM
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/jaap-stam-fancies-fulham-job-7006317 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/jaap-stam-fancies-fulham-job-7006317)
Oh please let this be true
Why? What has he done in coaching that Kit hadn't? Being a name footballer is no predictor of success as a coach/manager. Being a reserve side manager for Ajax certainly isn't either.
Maybe I've missed something in the little I've read about Stam since his playing days. If so, I'd sincerely appreciate enlightenment.
But, on the surface, this appears to be hiring another Kit and hoping the end result will be different.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on December 14, 2015, 02:42:25 PMQuote from: ToodlesMcToot on December 14, 2015, 01:17:38 PMQuote from: Riether Lightning 63 on December 14, 2015, 01:08:14 PM
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/jaap-stam-fancies-fulham-job-7006317 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/jaap-stam-fancies-fulham-job-7006317)
Oh please let this be true
Why? What has he done in coaching that Kit hadn't? Being a name footballer is no predictor of success as a coach/manager. Being a reserve side manager for Ajax certainly isn't either.
Maybe I've missed something in the little I've read about Stam since his playing days. If so, I'd sincerely appreciate enlightenment.
But, on the surface, this appears to be hiring another Kit and hoping the end result will be different.
I for one hope it's not true, apart from having no experiance, there are plenty of other managers/coaches in England more worthy, might as well have kept Symons.
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on December 14, 2015, 03:44:34 PMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on December 14, 2015, 02:42:25 PMQuote from: ToodlesMcToot on December 14, 2015, 01:17:38 PMQuote from: Riether Lightning 63 on December 14, 2015, 01:08:14 PM
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/jaap-stam-fancies-fulham-job-7006317 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/jaap-stam-fancies-fulham-job-7006317)
Oh please let this be true
Why? What has he done in coaching that Kit hadn't? Being a name footballer is no predictor of success as a coach/manager. Being a reserve side manager for Ajax certainly isn't either.
Maybe I've missed something in the little I've read about Stam since his playing days. If so, I'd sincerely appreciate enlightenment.
But, on the surface, this appears to be hiring another Kit and hoping the end result will be different.
I for one hope it's not true, apart from having no experiance, there are plenty of other managers/coaches in England more worthy, might as well have kept Symons.
On the surface, the reporting seems coincidental at best and typical tabloid putting together of 1 and 1 to get 3. But, the fact that it's being reported as a possibility at all is scary to me.
Quote from: JDH101 on December 14, 2015, 06:49:05 PM
My new shortlist would be:
Neil Lennon - Not fair to judge him on his Bolton post
Dave Jones - time to forgive and forget.
Danny Murphy - Still think he has tons of potential.
Kit Symons - Just kidding.
Neil Warnock - Ticks all the boxes for what we need to get us up.
Ian Holloway - Proven track record at getting teams up.
Quote from: JDH101 on December 14, 2015, 06:49:05 PMNone of those would be on mine at all, would not make it too the first 15 or so. Maybe Jones at a push but it would be a real push
My new shortlist would be:
Neil Lennon - Not fair to judge him on his Bolton post
Dave Jones - time to forgive and forget.
Danny Murphy - Still think he has tons of potential.
Kit Symons - Just kidding.
Neil Warnock - Ticks all the boxes for what we need to get us up.
Ian Holloway - Proven track record at getting teams up.
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on December 14, 2015, 07:37:35 PM
The old Watford manager seems the best bet for me.
Quote from: Ordar on December 14, 2015, 10:45:12 PMWe are just waiting for this post to hit 150,000. The Fulham Management are running a book and Riggs has 152,500. I cannot believe no-one has worked this out before?
The fans should just write the season off, as the club clearly have. They should offer season ticket refunds.
It can't possibly take this long to find someone. With the increasingly likely transfer embargo on the cards maybe we should be looking to just survive this year
Quote from: filham on December 15, 2015, 11:25:48 AMDisagree with that, as in all likelihood we have a embargo. This will mean we cannot do much if any business in that window, unless the total outlay is under 600k per annum or if the contract is less than a year then less than 600k on a pro rata basis. That 600k includes any fees and salary.
The January transfer window is not far away now. Isn't it essential we have a new man in position to see us through that.
Quote from: Bedford White on December 15, 2015, 12:25:13 PM
How come we're potentially having an embargo? Can someone clue me in please?
Quote from: Bedford White on December 15, 2015, 12:25:13 PM
How come we're potentially having an embargo? Can someone clue me in please?
Quote from: BedsFFC on December 15, 2015, 12:28:30 PM
Do you think that there is a chance that the look for a new manager is winding down and we are just hoping Grey can steady the ship? Surely a search can't take this long?
Quote from: Wearethewhites on December 15, 2015, 12:30:00 PMQuote from: Bedford White on December 15, 2015, 12:25:13 PM
How come we're potentially having an embargo? Can someone clue me in please?
Short or long of it, we got relegated, we didn't clear our decks quickly enough, have operated outside the FFP, will get punished because of this. This usually results in a fine or an embargo, most likely both, just like Blackburn or Forest.
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on December 15, 2015, 12:37:16 PMQuote from: Wearethewhites on December 15, 2015, 12:30:00 PMQuote from: Bedford White on December 15, 2015, 12:25:13 PM
How come we're potentially having an embargo? Can someone clue me in please?
Short or long of it, we got relegated, we didn't clear our decks quickly enough, have operated outside the FFP, will get punished because of this. This usually results in a fine or an embargo, most likely both, just like Blackburn or Forest.
I believe Mr MJG told me that if you break FFP and get promoted, then come back down, it's a fine. If you break FFP and remain in the FL, then the penalty is an embargo. Believe that I've stated this correctly.
Quote from: Wearethewhites on December 15, 2015, 12:43:13 PMQuote from: ToodlesMcToot on December 15, 2015, 12:37:16 PMQuote from: Wearethewhites on December 15, 2015, 12:30:00 PMQuote from: Bedford White on December 15, 2015, 12:25:13 PM
How come we're potentially having an embargo? Can someone clue me in please?
Short or long of it, we got relegated, we didn't clear our decks quickly enough, have operated outside the FFP, will get punished because of this. This usually results in a fine or an embargo, most likely both, just like Blackburn or Forest.
I believe Mr MJG told me that if you break FFP and get promoted, then come back down, it's a fine. If you break FFP and remain in the FL, then the penalty is an embargo. Believe that I've stated this correctly.
Basically, we're 1 of 4 currently under investigation. Depending on how bad the FFP has been broken, will depend on the actual punishment. Forest and Blackburn weren't that much over, and they had an embargo for just one window? (if I'm correct). Ours could, stretch over both windows, but until we know this, I honestly feel it could impact our Head Coach position. I believe Gray has been brought in just in case we need someone to hold the ship.
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on December 15, 2015, 12:37:16 PMthat is correct.Quote from: Wearethewhites on December 15, 2015, 12:30:00 PMQuote from: Bedford White on December 15, 2015, 12:25:13 PM
How come we're potentially having an embargo? Can someone clue me in please?
Short or long of it, we got relegated, we didn't clear our decks quickly enough, have operated outside the FFP, will get punished because of this. This usually results in a fine or an embargo, most likely both, just like Blackburn or Forest.
I believe Mr MJG told me that if you break FFP and get promoted, then come back down, it's a fine. If you break FFP and remain in the FL, then the penalty is an embargo. Believe that I've stated this correctly.
Quote from: MJG on December 15, 2015, 01:26:24 PMQuote from: ToodlesMcToot on December 15, 2015, 12:37:16 PMthat is correct.Quote from: Wearethewhites on December 15, 2015, 12:30:00 PMQuote from: Bedford White on December 15, 2015, 12:25:13 PM
How come we're potentially having an embargo? Can someone clue me in please?
Short or long of it, we got relegated, we didn't clear our decks quickly enough, have operated outside the FFP, will get punished because of this. This usually results in a fine or an embargo, most likely both, just like Blackburn or Forest.
I believe Mr MJG told me that if you break FFP and get promoted, then come back down, it's a fine. If you break FFP and remain in the FL, then the penalty is an embargo. Believe that I've stated this correctly.
Quote from: westcliff white on December 15, 2015, 11:30:37 AMQuote from: filham on December 15, 2015, 11:25:48 AMDisagree with that, as in all likelihood we have a embargo. This will mean we cannot do much if any business in that window, unless the total outlay is under 600k per annum or if the contract is less than a year then less than 600k on a pro rata basis. That 600k includes any fees and salary.
The January transfer window is not far away now. Isn't it essential we have a new man in position to see us through that.
Personally if we have an embargo would prefe rit to be January than during the summer
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on December 15, 2015, 01:47:29 PMQuote from: MJG on December 15, 2015, 01:26:24 PMQuote from: ToodlesMcToot on December 15, 2015, 12:37:16 PMthat is correct.Quote from: Wearethewhites on December 15, 2015, 12:30:00 PMQuote from: Bedford White on December 15, 2015, 12:25:13 PM
How come we're potentially having an embargo? Can someone clue me in please?
Short or long of it, we got relegated, we didn't clear our decks quickly enough, have operated outside the FFP, will get punished because of this. This usually results in a fine or an embargo, most likely both, just like Blackburn or Forest.
I believe Mr MJG told me that if you break FFP and get promoted, then come back down, it's a fine. If you break FFP and remain in the FL, then the penalty is an embargo. Believe that I've stated this correctly.
Have you heard any whisperings about the severity of our transgression? Or the coming punishment? Whether the punishment will be harsh or a slap? Kind of odd that something like this, coming supposedly soon, has not had any mention at al in the press. This kind of thing always has "leaks", educated guesses, uneducated guesses in the press/tabloids. Very surprising that nothing has been said in the papers.
Quote from: Jonnoj on December 15, 2015, 05:23:12 PMWhich is what I saidQuote from: westcliff white on December 15, 2015, 11:30:37 AMQuote from: filham on December 15, 2015, 11:25:48 AMDisagree with that, as in all likelihood we have a embargo. This will mean we cannot do much if any business in that window, unless the total outlay is under 600k per annum or if the contract is less than a year then less than 600k on a pro rata basis. That 600k includes any fees and salary.
The January transfer window is not far away now. Isn't it essential we have a new man in position to see us through that.
Personally if we have an embargo would prefe rit to be January than during the summer
You cant pay any transfer fees if you have an embargo, only frees and then their costs inc agents etc has to come under 600 for the year
Quote from: Riether Lightning 63 on December 15, 2015, 10:06:25 PM
As much as I want this thread to eventually take the place as most viewed AND most replies on the forum. I'll gladly trade that for us SORTING THIS MESS OUT!!!
Quote from: Riether Lightning 63 on December 16, 2015, 10:50:26 AM
I think I've worked it out.
Remember in the early days after Rene's appointment, we had the chant 'we've got three managers'. Maybe Shahid's leaving it a 0 managers for so long that it'll average back out
Quote from: mkras99 on December 16, 2015, 12:25:35 PM
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IF WE REMAIN KEEN, WHY HAVEN'T WE MADE A MOVE?!?!?!
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IF WE REMAIN KEEN, WHY HAVEN'T WE MADE A MOVE?!?!?!
HOW DO YOU KNOW WE HAVEN'T?!?!?!
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IF WE REMAIN KEEN, WHY HAVEN'T WE MADE A MOVE?!?!?!
HOW DO YOU KNOW WE HAVEN'T?!?!?!
I DON'T KNOW!!! I'M JUST ANNOYED BY THIS WHOLE THING!!!
WHY CAN'T I STOP TYPING IN CAPS?!?!?!
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IF WE REMAIN KEEN, WHY HAVEN'T WE MADE A MOVE?!?!?!
HOW DO YOU KNOW WE HAVEN'T?!?!?!
I DON'T KNOW!!! I'M JUST ANNOYED BY THIS WHOLE THING!!!
WHY CAN'T I STOP TYPING IN CAPS?!?!?!
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IF WE REMAIN KEEN, WHY HAVEN'T WE MADE A MOVE?!?!?!
HOW DO YOU KNOW WE HAVEN'T?!?!?!
I DON'T KNOW!!! I'M JUST ANNOYED BY THIS WHOLE THING!!!
WHY CAN'T I STOP TYPING IN CAPS?!?!?!
it will be some dirt behind your Caps Lock button.
If you read the article does say we did make a move he want more dosh we are going back with more dosh then MTV will want some money for letting him go and it will fall down as we wont want to pay this. Oh look Big Ben
Quote from: brixology on December 16, 2015, 03:32:45 PMQuote from: Nero on December 16, 2015, 03:11:47 PMQuote from: Riether Lightning 63 on December 16, 2015, 02:44:52 PMQuote from: Steven Ageroad on December 16, 2015, 02:42:10 PMQuote from: Riether Lightning 63 on December 16, 2015, 01:46:18 PMQuote from: mkras99 on December 16, 2015, 12:25:35 PM
http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/12/15/fulham-remain-keen-on-slavisa-jokanovic/?utm_medium=share%2Bbutton&utm_campaign=social%2Bmedia&utm_content=/en-gb/2015/12/15/fulham-remain-keen-on-slavisa-jokanovic/&utm_source=Twitter (http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/12/15/fulham-remain-keen-on-slavisa-jokanovic/?utm_medium=share%2Bbutton&utm_campaign=social%2Bmedia&utm_content=/en-gb/2015/12/15/fulham-remain-keen-on-slavisa-jokanovic/&utm_source=Twitter)
IF WE REMAIN KEEN, WHY HAVEN'T WE MADE A MOVE?!?!?!
HOW DO YOU KNOW WE HAVEN'T?!?!?!
I DON'T KNOW!!! I'M JUST ANNOYED BY THIS WHOLE THING!!!
WHY CAN'T I STOP TYPING IN CAPS?!?!?!
it will be some dirt behind your Caps Lock button.
If you read the article does say we did make a move he want more dosh we are going back with more dosh then MTV will want some money for letting him go and it will fall down as we wont want to pay this. Oh look Big Ben
Parliament!
Quote from: HamsterWheel on December 17, 2015, 10:27:58 AM
Slaviša Jokanović now odds on with all the bookies, and evens(ish) with Betfair.
Hope it happens !
Quote from: alexmur on December 17, 2015, 12:39:20 PM
http://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/fulham-prepared-wait-guardiola#:iAnLRmYBhLgSUA (http://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/fulham-prepared-wait-guardiola#:iAnLRmYBhLgSUA)
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Quote from: alexmur on December 17, 2015, 12:39:20 PMIn the old days Tommy Trinder used to provide all the self-deprecating humour. Now we have out-sourced it.
http://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/fulham-prepared-wait-guardiola#:iAnLRmYBhLgSUA (http://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/fulham-prepared-wait-guardiola#:iAnLRmYBhLgSUA)
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Quote from: Twig on December 17, 2015, 12:51:13 PM
Jokanovic would be a perfect appointment. My preference from day 1. Come on Slavisa sign on the dotted line and that's us made up for Christmas!
Quote from: Chutney on December 17, 2015, 01:10:48 PMQuote from: Twig on December 17, 2015, 12:51:13 PM
Jokanovic would be a perfect appointment. My preference from day 1. Come on Slavisa sign on the dotted line and that's us made up for Christmas!
THE PERFECT APPOINTMENT WOULD OF BEEN 7 GAMES AGO. There is no one who can save our season now, we're destined to another year at least at this level.
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on December 17, 2015, 02:22:09 PMQuote from: Chutney on December 17, 2015, 01:10:48 PMQuote from: Twig on December 17, 2015, 12:51:13 PM
Jokanovic would be a perfect appointment. My preference from day 1. Come on Slavisa sign on the dotted line and that's us made up for Christmas!
THE PERFECT APPOINTMENT WOULD OF BEEN 7 GAMES AGO. There is no one who can save our season now, we're destined to another year at least at this level.
Some would take that as a positive.
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on December 17, 2015, 02:22:09 PMThe truth that dare not speak its name...Quote from: Chutney on December 17, 2015, 01:10:48 PMQuote from: Twig on December 17, 2015, 12:51:13 PM
Jokanovic would be a perfect appointment. My preference from day 1. Come on Slavisa sign on the dotted line and that's us made up for Christmas!
THE PERFECT APPOINTMENT WOULD OF BEEN 7 GAMES AGO. There is no one who can save our season now, we're destined to another year at least at this level.
Some would take that as a positive.
Quote from: Chutney on December 17, 2015, 01:10:48 PMQuote from: Twig on December 17, 2015, 12:51:13 PM
Jokanovic would be a perfect appointment. My preference from day 1. Come on Slavisa sign on the dotted line and that's us made up for Christmas!
THE PERFECT APPOINTMENT WOULD OF BEEN 7 GAMES AGO. There is no one who can save our season now, we're destined to another year at least at this level.
Quote from: mkras99 on December 17, 2015, 08:34:02 PM
Latest from Wayne Veysey who has been spot on (or so it seems) - http://www.footballinsider247.com/exclusive/fulham-make-stanislav-jokanovic-approach-and-have-back-up-candidate (http://www.footballinsider247.com/exclusive/fulham-make-stanislav-jokanovic-approach-and-have-back-up-candidate)
Quote from: mkras99 on December 17, 2015, 08:34:02 PM
Latest from Wayne Veysey who has been spot on (or so it seems) - http://www.footballinsider247.com/exclusive/fulham-make-stanislav-jokanovic-approach-and-have-back-up-candidate (http://www.footballinsider247.com/exclusive/fulham-make-stanislav-jokanovic-approach-and-have-back-up-candidate)
Quote from: BedsFFC on December 17, 2015, 08:40:34 PMQuote from: mkras99 on December 17, 2015, 08:34:02 PM
Latest from Wayne Veysey who has been spot on (or so it seems) - http://www.footballinsider247.com/exclusive/fulham-make-stanislav-jokanovic-approach-and-have-back-up-candidate (http://www.footballinsider247.com/exclusive/fulham-make-stanislav-jokanovic-approach-and-have-back-up-candidate)
Throws up more questions than answers:
Like, so he's our 6th choice? We've only just made an approach? What if our back up doesn't want to join?
Having said all that, I actually think he's been our man for awhile but we have not been able to make it official and he has agreed that Grey comes in to work beforehand.
Quote from: Wearethewhites on December 17, 2015, 10:09:23 PMThat's not a big move though is it
Jokanovic gone from 13/8 to 1/1 on Oddschecker, WTF?
Quote from: BedsFFC on December 17, 2015, 08:40:34 PM,Quote from: mkras99 on December 17, 2015, 08:34:02 PM
Latest from Wayne Veysey who has been spot on (or so it seems) - http://www.footballinsider247.com/exclusive/fulham-make-stanislav-jokanovic-approach-and-have-back-up-candidate (http://www.footballinsider247.com/exclusive/fulham-make-stanislav-jokanovic-approach-and-have-back-up-candidate)
Throws up more questions than answers:
Like, so he's our 6th choice? We've only just made an approach? What if our back up doesn't want to join?
Having said all that, I actually think he's been our man for awhile but we have not been able to make it official and he has agreed that Grey comes in to work beforehand.
Quote from: Twig on December 17, 2015, 06:10:40 PMQuote from: Chutney on December 17, 2015, 01:10:48 PMQuote from: Twig on December 17, 2015, 12:51:13 PM
Jokanovic would be a perfect appointment. My preference from day 1. Come on Slavisa sign on the dotted line and that's us made up for Christmas!
THE PERFECT APPOINTMENT WOULD OF BEEN 7 GAMES AGO. There is no one who can save our season now, we're destined to another year at least at this level.
So you wouldn't welcome Jokanovic with open arms?
Quote from: Ordar on December 18, 2015, 09:41:21 AM
HAPPY 40th DAY WITHOUT A MANAGER / headcoach!!
It truly has been a memorable time that is propelling us towards our Christmas target points total.
5 games played. 3 points from 15. 9 goals conceded, including 4 from corners.
Quote from: Nero on December 18, 2015, 11:13:13 AMQuote from: Ordar on December 18, 2015, 09:41:21 AM
HAPPY 40th DAY WITHOUT A MANAGER / headcoach!!
It truly has been a memorable time that is propelling us towards our Christmas target points total.
5 games played. 3 points from 15. 9 goals conceded, including 4 from corners.
Yes it begs the question if Kit was sacked for not hitting his points target, Grant get moved back down after only drawing, who gets sacked now we are further behind
Quote from: SG on December 18, 2015, 11:17:07 AMQuote from: Nero on December 18, 2015, 11:13:13 AMQuote from: Ordar on December 18, 2015, 09:41:21 AM
HAPPY 40th DAY WITHOUT A MANAGER / headcoach!!
It truly has been a memorable time that is propelling us towards our Christmas target points total.
5 games played. 3 points from 15. 9 goals conceded, including 4 from corners.
Yes it begs the question if Kit was sacked for not hitting his points target, Grant get moved back down after only drawing, who gets sacked now we are further behind
Rigg - for overseeing this state of affairs. We can only dream
Quote from: Wearethewhites on December 18, 2015, 05:04:52 PM
Israeli press and a reliable Israli sports channels has confirm that Fulham have contacted Tel Aviv about Jakonavic'.
Quote from: Hoppus on December 18, 2015, 05:28:59 PMhttp://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/deathbattle/images/8/80/Link_Defending_(Soulcalibur_II).png/revision/latest?cb=20150514180715 (http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/deathbattle/images/8/80/Link_Defending_(Soulcalibur_II).png/revision/latest?cb=20150514180715)Quote from: Wearethewhites on December 18, 2015, 05:04:52 PM
Israeli press and a reliable Israli sports channels has confirm that Fulham have contacted Tel Aviv about Jakonavic'.
Link?
Quote from: SG on December 18, 2015, 11:17:07 AMHe has to hold on. We are only at 144,000 so far. Come on Mr Rigg, let RL63 get his post to 150,000 views. COYWQuote from: Nero on December 18, 2015, 11:13:13 AMQuote from: Ordar on December 18, 2015, 09:41:21 AM
HAPPY 40th DAY WITHOUT A MANAGER / headcoach!!
It truly has been a memorable time that is propelling us towards our Christmas target points total.
5 games played. 3 points from 15. 9 goals conceded, including 4 from corners.
Yes it begs the question if Kit was sacked for not hitting his points target, Grant get moved back down after only drawing, who gets sacked now we are further behind
Rigg - for overseeing this state of affairs. We can only dream
Quote from: Wearethewhites on December 18, 2015, 05:04:52 PMIn much the same way as we contacted Reading about Clarke, early days, a lot of mess to flow under the bridge yet.
Israeli press and a reliable Israli sports channels has confirm that Fulham have contacted Tel Aviv about Jakonavic'.
Quote from: Nero on December 19, 2015, 01:13:22 PM
Like has been sent unless Monk has drop his wage request by more then 75% he anit coming un less hes happy to have something like a 2m bonus written into the contract once Promotion has been achieved. Joka wanted 3m to stay a Watford so cant see him coming either. So Mowbray it will be which isn't to bad has a promotion under his belt from this league has turn Coventry from regulation candidate to Promotion contenders on a shoestring he actual sounds ideal for us at the moment.
Quote from: westcliff white on December 19, 2015, 08:37:58 PM
apparently Monk is now favourite with some bookies
Quote from: westcliff white on December 19, 2015, 08:37:58 PM
apparently Monk is now favourite with some bookies
Quote from: Wearethewhites on December 19, 2015, 09:21:09 PMI heard that to on the broadcast with Russ, Mike and Wayne Veysey too, but he is favourite that's all I was saying.Quote from: westcliff white on December 19, 2015, 08:37:58 PM
apparently Monk is now favourite with some bookies
Monk wants 3Mill a year, so won't happen. He'll hang out for a Norwich type job. We're offering 500k, our max has only ever been 750k.
Quote from: Fulham76 on December 19, 2015, 10:04:57 PMAh but the get out now for anyone who is inexperienced is that Gray is on the staffQuote from: westcliff white on December 19, 2015, 08:37:58 PM
apparently Monk is now favourite with some bookies
Monk doesn't have the experience we were promised. Just over a year in management in total.
The way I see it, he took a decent Swansea side & converted them to what you see today - not great credentials. Don't get how he's even on the radar. Although, acknowledge there can't be many more for us on the radar to cock up
Quote from: One James stannard on December 20, 2015, 10:46:01 AMWho will be the first to start a "Jokanovic OUT" thread?
May I be the first in welcoming him to our wonderful football club 076.gif
Quote from: Lighthouse on December 20, 2015, 11:19:52 AMSadly true. The only consolation for me with a Jokanvic' appointment is that my bet at 22/1 would come in.
. Can't say I care very much now we have ruined yet another season.
Quote from: LBNo11 on December 20, 2015, 11:44:04 AM
...another Messiah coming from Israel, should be confirmed in five days time..!
Quote from: Wearethewhites on December 20, 2015, 11:35:09 AM
Have a feeling this is just rehashed news from beginning of the week. Compensation was the sticking point, and heard talks broke down because it couldn't be agreed with Tel Aviv. I wouldn't count your chickens just yet.
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on December 20, 2015, 11:55:33 AMQuote from: LBNo11
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Quote from: Steven Ageroad on December 20, 2015, 11:55:33 AMQuote from: LBNo11 on December 20, 2015, 11:44:04 AM
...another Messiah coming from Israel, should be confirmed in five days time..!
As long as it's not Brian!
Quote from: LBNo11 on December 20, 2015, 11:44:04 AM
...another Messiah coming from Israel, should be confirmed in five days time..!
Quote from: J on December 20, 2015, 12:03:12 PMthere does not seem to be any new news on this just that we are in talks re compensation but that's 2 days oldQuote from: Wearethewhites on December 20, 2015, 11:35:09 AM
Have a feeling this is just rehashed news from beginning of the week. Compensation was the sticking point, and heard talks broke down because it couldn't be agreed with Tel Aviv. I wouldn't count your chickens just yet.
Do you have a source saying it broke down last week? I remember a few murmurs on here, but they looked a lot like doom and gloom assumptions with out any actual info.
Quote from: Nero on December 20, 2015, 12:54:17 PMNice one Centurion!
I put Slavisa Jokanovic into google translate is comes out as Tony Mowbray
Quote from: Fulham76 on December 20, 2015, 01:16:39 PM
If it's true that we're offering £500k salary & he left Watford because he wanted an increase to his £1m salary, this deal isn't going to happen. So I hope we aren't wasting everyone's time.
Quote from: westcliff white on December 20, 2015, 01:28:11 PM
the way I understood it with Watford was he wanted to triple his wages to 1 million a year and they offered him how eve much more per week but it was 500k per year, so he left at the end of last season. HIs contract was up so could renegotiate, and they held their nerve and replaced him
Quote from: Wearethewhites on December 20, 2015, 01:41:23 PMQuote from: westcliff white on December 20, 2015, 01:28:11 PM
the way I understood it with Watford was he wanted to triple his wages to 1 million a year and they offered him how eve much more per week but it was 500k per year, so he left at the end of last season. HIs contract was up so could renegotiate, and they held their nerve and replaced him
Sorry, typo again. In total, they offered him a 1k pay rise per week, which would have taken his salary to 500k a year in the Premiership, which he declined.
Quote from: WORTHINGFULHAM on December 20, 2015, 12:07:15 PMQuote from: Steven Ageroad on December 20, 2015, 11:55:33 AMQuote from: LBNo11
link=topic=51721.msg738189#msg738189
date=1450611844
Quote from: rogerpinvirginia on December 20, 2015, 02:04:20 PMQuote from: WORTHINGFULHAM on December 20, 2015, 12:07:15 PMQuote from: Steven Ageroad on December 20, 2015, 11:55:33 AMQuote from: LBNo11
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Quote from: Riversider on December 20, 2015, 02:25:14 PM
My main issue with Jokanovic if its true, is that it will mean me having to leave all forms of Fulham social media, our fans have struggled to spell Symons (Symonds) and Gray (Grey) let's face it they've got no chance with Jokanovic !
Quote from: Riversider on December 20, 2015, 02:58:54 PM
Plenty of photos on Twitter of Joe Can a Fish in Israel today taking training at Macabi, so not really sure where all these rumours are coming from.
Quote from: Riether Lightning 63 on December 20, 2015, 02:23:33 PM
Rumours have it that Jokanovic is done and dusted. Looks like this thread is coming to an end
Quote from: Hoppus on December 20, 2015, 03:42:56 PMwhat is
Great news!!!
Quote from: westcliff white on December 20, 2015, 03:47:18 PMQuote from: Hoppus on December 20, 2015, 03:42:56 PMwhat is
Great news!!!
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That a Jako deal is close
Quote from: Hoppus on December 20, 2015, 03:50:03 PMQuote from: westcliff white on December 20, 2015, 03:47:18 PMCLose but not close enough, not counting my chickens here. The guy that called the Gray deal said it was 95% on Tuesday but now 75% on the podcast FridayQuote from: Hoppus on December 20, 2015, 03:42:56 PMwhat is
Great news!!!
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That a Jako deal is close
Quote from: westcliff white on December 20, 2015, 03:54:15 PMQuote from: Hoppus on December 20, 2015, 03:50:03 PMYes, but the link above is him at 3pm today, which would suggest things have moved in a positive direction again maybe - hope so anywayQuote from: westcliff white on December 20, 2015, 03:47:18 PMCLose but not close enough, not counting my chickens here. The guy that called the Gray deal said it was 95% on Tuesday but now 75% on the podcast FridayQuote from: Hoppus on December 20, 2015, 03:42:56 PMwhat is
Great news!!!
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That a Jako deal is close
Quote from: Chesh on December 20, 2015, 03:58:00 PMQuote from: westcliff white on December 20, 2015, 03:54:15 PMWill not believe anything till on the offal, after all this is FulhamQuote from: Hoppus on December 20, 2015, 03:50:03 PMYes, but the link above is him at 3pm today, which would suggest things have moved in a positive direction again maybe - hope so anywayQuote from: westcliff white on December 20, 2015, 03:47:18 PMCLose but not close enough, not counting my chickens here. The guy that called the Gray deal said it was 95% on Tuesday but now 75% on the podcast FridayQuote from: Hoppus on December 20, 2015, 03:42:56 PMwhat is
Great news!!!
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That a Jako deal is close
Quote from: Chesh on December 20, 2015, 03:58:00 PMQuote from: westcliff white on December 20, 2015, 03:54:15 PMQuote from: Hoppus on December 20, 2015, 03:50:03 PMYes, but the link above is him at 3pm today, which would suggest things have moved in a positive direction again maybe - hope so anywayQuote from: westcliff white on December 20, 2015, 03:47:18 PMCLose but not close enough, not counting my chickens here. The guy that called the Gray deal said it was 95% on Tuesday but now 75% on the podcast FridayQuote from: Hoppus on December 20, 2015, 03:42:56 PMwhat is
Great news!!!
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That a Jako deal is close
Sounds like he's just rehashed that from the other day Riggs has phoned him and told him to re run it as Khans got a meeting on Monday with his PR man and if it looks like I've balls up again I could be fired.
Quote from: Hoppus on December 20, 2015, 04:08:30 PMi've seen that, its also the same guy that was on the podcast saying it had reduced over the week, the story he is running is also very similar to that he ran on Tuesday. I am sceptical because its Fulham I wont believe anyone is appointed till I see an announcement from the club
The same guy tweeted this 40 minutes ago: http://www.footballinsider247.com/news/fulham-are-set-to-appoint-jokanovic-as-their-new-manager (http://www.footballinsider247.com/news/fulham-are-set-to-appoint-jokanovic-as-their-new-manager)
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on December 20, 2015, 04:09:04 PM
Just to make you aware Riether your thread is currently 2nd in both posts and viewings as the highest in fof history. It is only beaten by the 2015 silly season transfer thread on both counts. The highest posts is your best bet for a record break, you're currently 105 posts off breaking it. 104 now thanks to me.
The viewings is miles off and I hope you don't get the opportunity to get that far lol
Quote from: Northern Cottager on December 20, 2015, 04:48:24 PM
If anyone can mess up a done deal it's us!
Quote from: Hoppus on December 20, 2015, 03:50:03 PMQuote from: westcliff white on December 20, 2015, 03:47:18 PMQuote from: Hoppus on December 20, 2015, 03:42:56 PMwhat is
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That a Jako deal is close
Great we are bringing back the statue at last, that will end the curse on the club.
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Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on December 20, 2015, 04:09:04 PM
Just to make you aware Riether your thread is currently 2nd in both posts and viewings as the highest in fof history. It is only beaten by the 2015 silly season transfer thread on both counts. The highest posts is your best bet for a record break, you're currently 105 posts off breaking it. 104 now thanks to me.
The viewings is miles off and I hope you don't get the opportunity to get that far lol
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on December 20, 2015, 04:59:53 PMthere's no evidence its a done deal and not messed up either lolQuote from: Northern Cottager on December 20, 2015, 04:48:24 PM
If anyone can mess up a done deal it's us!
What evidence it's a done deal and messed up. Just calm down.
Quote from: sunburywhite on December 20, 2015, 04:45:56 PMQuote from: dannyboi-ffc on December 20, 2015, 04:09:04 PM
Just to make you aware Riether your thread is currently 2nd in both posts and viewings as the highest in fof history. It is only beaten by the 2015 silly season transfer thread on both counts. The highest posts is your best bet for a record break, you're currently 105 posts off breaking it. 104 now thanks to me.
The viewings is miles off and I hope you don't get the opportunity to get that far lol
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Quote from: PokerMatt on December 20, 2015, 06:15:13 PMyep I do I always dream it was a one off
@westcliff white
"Will not believe anything till on the offal, after all this is Fulham"
Even then.... remember Reyna?...
Quote from: Riversider on December 20, 2015, 02:25:14 PMthank you for giving me a good chuckle, I have been avoiding typing his name lol
My main issue with Jokanovic if its true, is that it will mean me having to leave all forms of Fulham social media, our fans have struggled to spell Symons (Symonds) and Gray (Grey) let's face it they've got no chance with Jokanovic !
Couldn't we have gone with a more straight forward name for them !
Quote from: f321ffc on December 20, 2015, 05:12:38 PMQuote from: Hoppus on December 20, 2015, 03:50:03 PMjimmy Hill or wacko?Quote from: westcliff white on December 20, 2015, 03:47:18 PMQuote from: Hoppus on December 20, 2015, 03:42:56 PMwhat is
Great news!!!
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That a Jako deal is close
Great we are bringing back the statue at last, that will end the curse on the club.
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Quote from: alexmur on December 20, 2015, 07:19:40 PMQuote from: Riversider on December 20, 2015, 02:25:14 PMthank you for giving me a good chuckle, I have been avoiding typing his name lol
My main issue with Jokanovic if its true, is that it will mean me having to leave all forms of Fulham social media, our fans have struggled to spell Symons (Symonds) and Gray (Grey) let's face it they've got no chance with Jokanovic !
Couldn't we have gone with a more straight forward name for them !
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Quote from: grandad on December 20, 2015, 07:37:52 PMalthough I hold out for moyes he is definitely my second choice would be savage if we got himQuote from: alexmur on December 20, 2015, 07:19:40 PMQuote from: Riversider on December 20, 2015, 02:25:14 PMthank you for giving me a good chuckle, I have been avoiding typing his name lol
My main issue with Jokanovic if its true, is that it will mean me having to leave all forms of Fulham social media, our fans have struggled to spell Symons (Symonds) and Gray (Grey) let's face it they've got no chance with Jokanovic !
Couldn't we have gone with a more straight forward name for them !
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We could just call him Joka although I hope he won´t be if he came here.
Quote from: westcliff white on December 20, 2015, 06:04:05 PMWould a FFP embargo also apply to signing a new manager?
the window is irrelevant as we will be under an embargo apparently
Quote from: copthornemike on December 20, 2015, 07:50:05 PMNope but I took the comments to mean get a manager in so he can do some business that he wants to doQuote from: westcliff white on December 20, 2015, 06:04:05 PMWould a FFP embargo also apply to signing a new manager?
the window is irrelevant as we will be under an embargo apparently
Quote from: Wearethewhites on December 20, 2015, 07:47:33 PM
There are pictures on the Tel Aviv Facebook page of Jokanovic taking training this morning, plus an interview which would indicate that he's not leaving any time soon.
Quote from: Hoppus on December 20, 2015, 08:33:20 PMQuote from: Wearethewhites on December 20, 2015, 07:47:33 PM
There are pictures on the Tel Aviv Facebook page of Jokanovic taking training this morning, plus an interview which would indicate that he's not leaving any time soon.
95 % done the football insider tweeted now.
Quote from: alexmur on December 20, 2015, 07:42:07 PMSavage...Quote from: grandad on December 20, 2015, 07:37:52 PMalthough I hold out for moyes he is definitely my second choice would be savage if we got himQuote from: alexmur on December 20, 2015, 07:19:40 PMQuote from: Riversider on December 20, 2015, 02:25:14 PMthank you for giving me a good chuckle, I have been avoiding typing his name lol
My main issue with Jokanovic if its true, is that it will mean me having to leave all forms of Fulham social media, our fans have struggled to spell Symons (Symonds) and Gray (Grey) let's face it they've got no chance with Jokanovic !
Couldn't we have gone with a more straight forward name for them !
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We could just call him Joka although I hope he won´t be if he came here.
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Quote from: BestOfBrede on December 20, 2015, 08:48:20 PMwhy?Quote from: alexmur on December 20, 2015, 07:42:07 PMSavage...Quote from: grandad on December 20, 2015, 07:37:52 PMalthough I hold out for moyes he is definitely my second choice would be savage if we got himQuote from: alexmur on December 20, 2015, 07:19:40 PMQuote from: Riversider on December 20, 2015, 02:25:14 PMthank you for giving me a good chuckle, I have been avoiding typing his name lol
My main issue with Jokanovic if its true, is that it will mean me having to leave all forms of Fulham social media, our fans have struggled to spell Symons (Symonds) and Gray (Grey) let's face it they've got no chance with Jokanovic !
Couldn't we have gone with a more straight forward name for them !
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We could just call him Joka although I hope he won´t be if he came here.
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If he became our manager I would definitely never go again!
:005:
Quote from: BestOfBrede on December 20, 2015, 09:05:19 PMlol sorry that went over my head, savage couldn't manage the color of his own shjte!!!
I think you missed the joke?
Robbie Savage!
Quote from: westcliff white on December 20, 2015, 06:04:05 PM
the window is irrelevant as we will be under an embargo apparently
Quote from: filham on December 20, 2015, 09:29:25 PMNot how I understand it works, but I m not an expert. Think we are allowed 600k max on any player that as I understand includes all fees and salary over a season, which is then pro rated if less than a season left when the transaction is madeQuote from: westcliff white on December 20, 2015, 06:04:05 PM
the window is irrelevant as we will be under an embargo apparently
But surely if we sell a couple of players cannot the proceeds be used to buy new players.
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on December 20, 2015, 11:27:24 PM
May I congratulate RL63 on passing 150,000!!!
DB, how many more for the record??
Quote from: HV71 on December 20, 2015, 11:45:24 PMNot sure, how long was Alan Dicks apparently our manager?
What is the record for not appointing a manager and leaving a team in limbo?
Quote from: Burt on December 21, 2015, 09:09:32 AMYou need to work on your evil laugh...
Record breakers:
This thread is around the 2,700 mark so I can see the record going over the next day or so. Unless I lock it! Mwah ha ha haaaa (evil laugh).
:merry christmas:
Quote from: alexmur on December 21, 2015, 09:54:07 AMIs that the number candidates we have gone for?
86
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Quote from: MJG on December 21, 2015, 09:54:53 AMQuote from: alexmur on December 21, 2015, 09:54:07 AMIs that the number candidates we have gone for?
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Quote from: MJG on December 21, 2015, 09:54:53 AMlolQuote from: alexmur on December 21, 2015, 09:54:07 AMIs that the number candidates we have gone for?
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Quote from: Riether Lightning 63 on December 21, 2015, 09:48:01 AM
87 posts to go, to quote Steven Gerrard
THIS DOES NOT (bleeping) SLIP!!!
Quote from: SG on December 21, 2015, 10:48:32 AM
Interestingly in the newspaper this morning Swansea were being berated over the time it has taken them to appoint a replacement to Monk and that they sacked him with no plan B as their first choice has now gone cold.
Quote from: MJG on December 21, 2015, 10:33:13 AM
Has it been discussed when this thread actually stops?
When Fulham officially tweet or post on the website the new man it must be locked. No posts afterwards should count as this is about the NEXT man.
Quote from: Riether Lightning 63 on December 21, 2015, 11:04:45 AM0001.jpegQuote from: MJG on December 21, 2015, 10:33:13 AM
Has it been discussed when this thread actually stops?
When Fulham officially tweet or post on the website the new man it must be locked. No posts afterwards should count as this is about the NEXT man.
No, but let's discuss it now, not as if anything else is going on. Should get the numbers up
Quote from: MJG on December 21, 2015, 11:09:33 AMQuote from: Riether Lightning 63 on December 21, 2015, 11:04:45 AM0001.jpegQuote from: MJG on December 21, 2015, 10:33:13 AM
Has it been discussed when this thread actually stops?
When Fulham officially tweet or post on the website the new man it must be locked. No posts afterwards should count as this is about the NEXT man.
No, but let's discuss it now, not as if anything else is going on. Should get the numbers up
I think it be locked straight away.
then that gives a really good target to go for sometime next year when this one gets sacked.
Quote from: Lighthouse on December 21, 2015, 11:12:33 AMThat is my one question mark over him. Does not fit the Rigg 'Long term' requirement in the Job SpecQuote from: MJG on December 21, 2015, 11:09:33 AMQuote from: Riether Lightning 63 on December 21, 2015, 11:04:45 AM0001.jpegQuote from: MJG on December 21, 2015, 10:33:13 AM
Has it been discussed when this thread actually stops?
When Fulham officially tweet or post on the website the new man it must be locked. No posts afterwards should count as this is about the NEXT man.
No, but let's discuss it now, not as if anything else is going on. Should get the numbers up
I think it be locked straight away.
then that gives a really good target to go for sometime next year when this one gets sacked.
If it is Joko he will leave within a year before being sacked. He never stays long in any job.
Quote from: alexmur on December 21, 2015, 11:55:19 AM
how long does it take one club to tell the other how much compensation they want. I'm starting to think this whole Jokanovic thing is just more media speculation
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Quote from: alexmur on December 21, 2015, 11:55:19 AM
how long does it take one club to tell the other how much compensation they want. I'm starting to think this whole Jokanovic thing is just more media speculation
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Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on December 21, 2015, 12:04:59 PMQuote from: alexmur on December 21, 2015, 11:55:19 AM
how long does it take one club to tell the other how much compensation they want. I'm starting to think this whole Jokanovic thing is just more media speculation
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Maybe they are trying to get their new manager in before they let us have Jokanovic.
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on December 21, 2015, 12:03:34 PMQuote from: alexmur on December 21, 2015, 11:55:19 AM
how long does it take one club to tell the other how much compensation they want. I'm starting to think this whole Jokanovic thing is just more media speculation
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Maybe, as they know how desperate we are, they are asking a ridiculous sum.
Quote from: alexmur on December 21, 2015, 11:55:19 AM
how long does it take one club to tell the other how much compensation they want. I'm starting to think this whole Jokanovic thing is just more media speculation
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Quote from: gerrys on December 21, 2015, 12:55:43 PM
I keep coming on here to see if there is any new info and all I get is comments regarding the number of posts needed to beat the record.......well, here goes, we are one more nearer the record.... :beer:
Quote from: Riether Lightning 63 on December 21, 2015, 02:20:32 PM
Just heard rumours that Man Utd have to wait for the New York Stock exchange to open before they can sack Van Gaal.
Is this something similar to us? Do we have to wait for Hanukkah to finish before Tel-Aviv let him go?
Quote from: Hoppus on December 21, 2015, 04:01:28 PM
http://www.getwestlondon.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/fulham-hitch-over-naming-former-10633097 (http://www.getwestlondon.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/fulham-hitch-over-naming-former-10633097)
Quote from: mkras99 on December 21, 2015, 05:09:55 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3369176/Fulham-close-Slavisa-Jokanovic-former-Watford-manager-agrees-terms-Craven-Cottage.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3369176/Fulham-close-Slavisa-Jokanovic-former-Watford-manager-agrees-terms-Craven-Cottage.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed)
Quote from: mkras99 on December 21, 2015, 05:09:55 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3369176/Fulham-close-Slavisa-Jokanovic-former-Watford-manager-agrees-terms-Craven-Cottage.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-3369176/Fulham-close-Slavisa-Jokanovic-former-Watford-manager-agrees-terms-Craven-Cottage.html?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed)
Quote from: Wearethewhites on December 21, 2015, 05:30:37 PM
http://www.getwestlondon.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/fulham-hitch-over-naming-former-10633097 (http://www.getwestlondon.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/fulham-hitch-over-naming-former-10633097)
Quote from: dorsetwhite on December 21, 2015, 05:57:07 PM
Jokanovic now 6 to 1 on. Is the wait over?
Quote from: Riether Lightning 63 on December 21, 2015, 05:58:58 PMThis is NOT Baseball dear chap.... It's Soccer!!!Quote from: dorsetwhite on December 21, 2015, 05:57:07 PM
Jokanovic now 6 to 1 on. Is the wait over?
Not over until the fat lady conducts her first interview
BTW, that's not a dig at Sarah Brookes. That's just a play on the famous phrase
Quote from: SG on December 21, 2015, 04:27:21 PMI would guess financial fair play has alot todo with not be able to pay people what they wantQuote from: Hoppus on December 21, 2015, 04:01:28 PM
http://www.getwestlondon.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/fulham-hitch-over-naming-former-10633097 (http://www.getwestlondon.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/fulham-hitch-over-naming-former-10633097)
This is the second time I have read that we are not prepared to break the bank to get in any coach - despite the statement from our illustrious chairman that he will do whatever it takes to get us back to the Premier League. It would seem that paying for a decent manager is not included in this claim. FFS cant they see that the longer this goes on the less likely that a capable person will be inclined to sign up as the new Head Coach/Manager/Slave/Dogsbody
Quote from: Berserker on December 21, 2015, 06:41:43 PM
I really can't see this happening. Suppose I've lost faith in the club's ability
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on December 21, 2015, 04:48:58 PMtake a bow that was very good
You generally get what you pay for.
If you pay peanuts, you will probably get Monkeys.
That's why we are up the Creek without a paddle.
Marooned, Becalmed, demooD, Shipwrecked. Rudderless.
If the ship is not steared away from these choppy waters, we will hit the reef, crash into the rocks, and end up with another great hole in the Starboard, to go with the hole on the Port side of HMS FULHAM.
Quote from: alexmur on December 21, 2015, 06:48:20 PMQuote from: SG on December 21, 2015, 04:27:21 PMI would guess financial fair play has alot todo with not be able to pay people what they wantQuote from: Hoppus on December 21, 2015, 04:01:28 PM
http://www.getwestlondon.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/fulham-hitch-over-naming-former-10633097 (http://www.getwestlondon.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/fulham-hitch-over-naming-former-10633097)
This is the second time I have read that we are not prepared to break the bank to get in any coach - despite the statement from our illustrious chairman that he will do whatever it takes to get us back to the Premier League. It would seem that paying for a decent manager is not included in this claim. FFS cant they see that the longer this goes on the less likely that a capable person will be inclined to sign up as the new Head Coach/Manager/Slave/Dogsbody
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Quote from: westcliff white on December 21, 2015, 07:23:28 PM
it could be longer than one window, depend son how much the breach is and what punishment the league deem worthy
Quote from: dorsetwhite on December 21, 2015, 05:57:07 PM
Jokanovic now 6 to 1 on. Is the wait over?
Quote from: PokerMatt on December 21, 2015, 07:39:46 PMQuote from: dorsetwhite on December 21, 2015, 05:57:07 PM
Jokanovic now 6 to 1 on. Is the wait over?
Steve Clarke was even shorter than that on the morning of the incident.
Quote from: Riether Lightning 63 on December 21, 2015, 08:09:10 PMQuote from: PokerMatt on December 21, 2015, 07:39:46 PMQuote from: dorsetwhite on December 21, 2015, 05:57:07 PM
Jokanovic now 6 to 1 on. Is the wait over?
Steve Clarke was even shorter than that on the morning of the incident.
This could very well be our John Arne Riise moment (except swap medical with compensation)
Quote from: PokerMatt on December 21, 2015, 08:35:43 PMQuote from: Riether Lightning 63 on December 21, 2015, 08:09:10 PMQuote from: PokerMatt on December 21, 2015, 07:39:46 PMQuote from: dorsetwhite on December 21, 2015, 05:57:07 PM
Jokanovic now 6 to 1 on. Is the wait over?
Steve Clarke was even shorter than that on the morning of the incident.
This could very well be our John Arne Riise moment (except swap medical with compensation)
So he'll be our manager in 10 years' time when he's utterly lost it then? fp.gif
Quote from: HV71 on December 21, 2015, 08:56:05 PM
Perhaps Rigg is planning on doing a Noades !? Make it out you can't get anyone interested then appoint yourself manager ( sorry Head Coach ) as Noades did when he was Chairman at Brentford. He could put it to Khan that there was a precedent - and he Rigg is god's man on earth ( Khans man in the UK ) . Very papal - very Rigg - omnipresent , omnipowerful , omnipratt.
Quote from: e4b on December 21, 2015, 06:48:50 PMSoccer is short for Association Football as opposed to Rugby Football.
It's not soccer it is FOOTBALL
Quote from: gerrys on December 21, 2015, 10:16:56 PM?Quote from: e4b on December 21, 2015, 06:48:50 PMSoccer is short for Association Football as opposed to Rugby Football.
It's not soccer it is FOOTBALL
Quote from: @jolslover on December 21, 2015, 10:06:04 PM
Notes taken from The Jerusalem post.
Jokanovic says he "prefers not to make a comment regarding his situation". Refused to confirm he would still be the coach on Saturday and said he does not think he will be the coach of Maccabi come the end of the season
Maccabi have also scheduled a press conference for tomorrow. Perhaps to announce him leaving?
Quote from: westcliff white on December 21, 2015, 10:31:32 PMThe name soccer 1863 predates the name football and is short for Association Football as apposed to ruggerQuote from: gerrys on December 21, 2015, 10:16:56 PM?Quote from: e4b on December 21, 2015, 06:48:50 PMSoccer is short for Association Football as opposed to Rugby Football.
It's not soccer it is FOOTBALL
Quote from: Wearethewhites on December 21, 2015, 10:47:09 PM
How long will he be with us before jumping ship?
Quote from: Wearethewhites on December 21, 2015, 10:47:09 PMThat's it then, did someone say "jumping ship"? Jokanovic out!
How long will he be with us before jumping ship?
Quote from: Ged on December 21, 2015, 10:44:57 PMAt 45 years old I'll stick with football on footieQuote from: westcliff white on December 21, 2015, 10:31:32 PMThe name soccer 1863 predates the name football and is short for Association Football as apposed to ruggerQuote from: gerrys on December 21, 2015, 10:16:56 PM?Quote from: e4b on December 21, 2015, 06:48:50 PMSoccer is short for Association Football as opposed to Rugby Football.
It's not soccer it is FOOTBALL
Quote from: Riether Lightning 63 on December 21, 2015, 10:49:18 PMThat would be RoyQuote from: Wearethewhites on December 21, 2015, 10:47:09 PM
How long will he be with us before jumping ship?
Legitimate question, other than Mark Hughes, who was the last one TO jump ship?
Quote from: Snibbo on December 21, 2015, 10:59:17 PMQuote from: Riether Lightning 63 on December 21, 2015, 10:49:18 PMThat would be RoyQuote from: Wearethewhites on December 21, 2015, 10:47:09 PM
How long will he be with us before jumping ship?
Legitimate question, other than Mark Hughes, who was the last one TO jump ship?
Quote from: Riether Lightning 63 on December 21, 2015, 11:01:44 PMIsn't that jumping ship?Quote from: Snibbo on December 21, 2015, 10:59:17 PMQuote from: Riether Lightning 63 on December 21, 2015, 10:49:18 PMThat would be RoyQuote from: Wearethewhites on December 21, 2015, 10:47:09 PM
How long will he be with us before jumping ship?
Legitimate question, other than Mark Hughes, who was the last one TO jump ship?
I mean in the traditional sense. Wasn't he essentially bought by Liverpool
Quote from: Riether Lightning 63 on December 21, 2015, 10:49:18 PMQuote from: Wearethewhites on December 21, 2015, 10:47:09 PM
How long will he be with us before jumping ship?
Legitimate question, other than Mark Hughes, who was the last one TO jump ship?
Quote from: Snibbo on December 21, 2015, 11:07:52 PMQuote from: Riether Lightning 63 on December 21, 2015, 11:01:44 PMIsn't that jumping ship?Quote from: Snibbo on December 21, 2015, 10:59:17 PMQuote from: Riether Lightning 63 on December 21, 2015, 10:49:18 PMThat would be RoyQuote from: Wearethewhites on December 21, 2015, 10:47:09 PM
How long will he be with us before jumping ship?
Legitimate question, other than Mark Hughes, who was the last one TO jump ship?
I mean in the traditional sense. Wasn't he essentially bought by Liverpool
Quote from: Riether Lightning 63 on December 21, 2015, 11:23:50 PM]]
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/fulham-hope-unveil-ex-watford-7053931 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/fulham-hope-unveil-ex-watford-7053931)
"Jokanovic was always a Fulham target but could not move until the end of his side's Champions League campaign"
THAT EXPLAINS IT ALL!!!
Quote from: Nero on December 21, 2015, 11:33:11 PMQuote from: Riether Lightning 63 on December 21, 2015, 11:23:50 PM]]
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/fulham-hope-unveil-ex-watford-7053931 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/fulham-hope-unveil-ex-watford-7053931)
"Jokanovic was always a Fulham target but could not move until the end of his side's Champions League campaign"
THAT EXPLAINS IT ALL!!!
Sounds like Rigg has fed some crap to the papers so it looked like he knew waht he was doing all along
Looks like Jokanovic is heading back to England with @FulhamFC. Told it's already done and compensation agreed https://t.co/eJ5UxppQ2M
— Darren Witcoop (@DarrenOWitcoop) December 21, 2015
Quote from: westcliff white on December 21, 2015, 10:52:05 PMQuote from: Ged on December 21, 2015, 10:44:57 PMAt 45 years old I'll stick with football on footieQuote from: westcliff white on December 21, 2015, 10:31:32 PMThe name soccer 1863 predates the name football and is short for Association Football as apposed to ruggerQuote from: gerrys on December 21, 2015, 10:16:56 PM?Quote from: e4b on December 21, 2015, 06:48:50 PMSoccer is short for Association Football as opposed to Rugby Football.
It's not soccer it is FOOTBALL
Quote from: @jolslover on December 22, 2015, 12:48:03 AMWe havnt got him yet
He is a good fit and he is well worth the wait. Very good appointment Fulham
Quote from: WORTHINGFULHAM on December 22, 2015, 01:13:17 AMQuote from: @jolslover on December 22, 2015, 12:48:03 AMWe havnt got him yet
He is a good fit and he is well worth the wait. Very good appointment Fulham
Quote from: e4b on December 22, 2015, 01:48:27 AM
Couldn't care less what you call it but that's a few more posts. Certainly not upset HD as i'm sure your not but you are right in that i may well be stupid.
Quote from: Nero on December 21, 2015, 11:33:11 PMQuote from: Riether Lightning 63 on December 21, 2015, 11:23:50 PM]]
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/fulham-hope-unveil-ex-watford-7053931 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/fulham-hope-unveil-ex-watford-7053931)
"Jokanovic was always a Fulham target but could not move until the end of his sides Champions League campaign"
THAT EXPLAINS IT ALL!!!
Sounds like Rigg has fed some crap to the papers so it looked like he knew waht he was doing all along
Quote from: SG on December 22, 2015, 08:30:03 AMQuote from: Nero on December 21, 2015, 11:33:11 PMQuote from: Riether Lightning 63 on December 21, 2015, 11:23:50 PM]]
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/fulham-hope-unveil-ex-watford-7053931 (http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/fulham-hope-unveil-ex-watford-7053931)
"Jokanovic was always a Fulham target but could not move until the end of his sides Champions League campaign"
THAT EXPLAINS IT ALL!!!
Sounds like Rigg has fed some crap to the papers so it looked like he knew waht he was doing all along
Exactly. I don't believe that for one minute. Otherwise how do they explain the Clarke episode. In any event we are still managerless and are now well into week 7
Quote from: clarkey on December 22, 2015, 08:58:53 AMGlad to see your being positive about it
In what way is Slavisa Jokanovic a "good fit" ?
attacking football with flair-no
in the Fulham style-no
experience at the highest level-no
used to working with English teams-no
good with the press-no
good personality-no
strong links with major players and clubs-no
likely to impress star players and attract new signings-no
rebuilt a team-no
good sporting player with clean reputation-no
fresh exciting coaching talent-no
I think the good fit evidence is based on less than a season at Watford when he inherited the squad after a quick succession of managers then walked out over a pay demand.
This looks like a good plan and worth wasting a season on.
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on December 22, 2015, 04:17:44 AM
Congratulations Riether! Thanks to e4b above you have officially broken the record now for most posts.
:merry christmas:
Quote from: Riether Lightning 63 on December 21, 2015, 10:49:18 PMroy:'(Quote from: Wearethewhites on December 21, 2015, 10:47:09 PM
How long will he be with us before jumping ship?
Legitimate question, other than Mark Hughes, who was the last one TO jump ship?
Quote from: Riether Lightning 63 on December 21, 2015, 11:09:32 PMI actually thought Roy resigned before going to Liverpool, but was a long time ago it seems now and I have probably tried to block that from my mindQuote from: Snibbo on December 21, 2015, 11:07:52 PMQuote from: Riether Lightning 63 on December 21, 2015, 11:01:44 PMIsn't that jumping ship?Quote from: Snibbo on December 21, 2015, 10:59:17 PMQuote from: Riether Lightning 63 on December 21, 2015, 10:49:18 PMThat would be RoyQuote from: Wearethewhites on December 21, 2015, 10:47:09 PM
How long will he be with us before jumping ship?
Legitimate question, other than Mark Hughes, who was the last one TO jump ship?
I mean in the traditional sense. Wasn't he essentially bought by Liverpool
I suppose (late night, not thinking straight). OK, I'll re-ask the question. Who was the last manager to RESIGN
Quote from: clarkey on December 22, 2015, 08:58:53 AM
In what way is Slavisa Jokanovic a "good fit" ?
attacking football with flair-no
in the Fulham style-no
experience at the highest level-no
used to working with English teams-no
good with the press-no
good personality-no
strong links with major players and clubs-no
likely to impress star players and attract new signings-no
rebuilt a team-no
good sporting player with clean reputation-no
fresh exciting coaching talent-no
I think the good fit evidence is based on less than a season at Watford when he inherited the squad after a quick succession of managers then walked out over a pay demand.
This looks like a good plan and worth wasting a season on.
Quote from: clarkey on December 22, 2015, 08:58:53 AM
In what way is Slavisa Jokanovic a "good fit" ?
attacking football with flair-no
in the Fulham style-no
experience at the highest level-no
used to working with English teams-no
good with the press-no
good personality-no
strong links with major players and clubs-no
likely to impress star players and attract new signings-no
rebuilt a team-no
good sporting player with clean reputation-no
fresh exciting coaching talent-no
I think the good fit evidence is based on less than a season at Watford when he inherited the squad after a quick succession of managers then walked out over a pay demand.
This looks like a good plan and worth wasting a season on.
Quote from: Jem on December 22, 2015, 09:48:21 AMI would ask the same question - I remember the Tigana style, and the Keegan style, and even the Hodgson style, which were all totally different by the way.
Just curious but what is the Fulham Style? Is it like the West Ham Style?
Quote from: Ordar on December 22, 2015, 10:07:44 AM
attacking football with flair- Watford were top scorers in the league
in the Fulham style- lets hope not as the current Fulham style is trash
experience at the highest level-We're not at the highest level. However he's currently managing a team who were in the CL and top of their league...
used to working with English teams- a year at Watford?
good with the press- irrelevant
good personality-irrelevant/unproven
strong links with major players and clubs-He played for Chelsea...
likely to impress star players and attract new signings- unfounded
rebuilt a team- we don't need rebuilding, just recoaching
good sporting player with clean reputation-irrelevant
fresh exciting coaching talent-He's only 47
Quote from: Ordar on December 22, 2015, 10:07:44 AMExcellent observations. I'm with you on this one.
attacking football with flair- Watford were top scorers in the league
in the Fulham style- lets hope not as the current Fulham style is trash
experience at the highest level-We're not at the highest level. However he's currently managing a team who were in the CL and top of their league...
used to working with English teams- a year at Watford?
good with the press- irrelevant
good personality-irrelevant/unproven
strong links with major players and clubs-He played for Chelsea...
likely to impress star players and attract new signings- unfounded
rebuilt a team- we don't need rebuilding, just recoaching
good sporting player with clean reputation-irrelevant
fresh exciting coaching talent-He's only 47
Quote from: Tonywa on December 22, 2015, 02:06:23 PMYou have just opened a massive can of worms with that comment
Not forgetting Clint Dempsey who would go over if there was a slight gust of wind.
Quote from: LBNo11 on December 22, 2015, 02:26:36 PM
...Day 44: and rumours that a shining star is in the east and heralds the arrival from Israel of someone whose name begins with a J.
If true I won't be an ass and crib anymore, we desperately need a manger!
Will our messiah be announced officially on Riggsmas day..?
:Happy New Year 2: :xmas bell: xma1
Quote from: bobby01 on December 22, 2015, 02:27:55 PMNice one.
...Day 44: and rumours that a shining star is in the east and heralds the arrival from Israel of someone whose name begins with a J.
If true I won't be an ass and crib anymore, we desperately need a manger!
Will our messiah be announced officially on Riggsmas day..?
:Happy New Year 2: :xmas bell: xma1
Quote from: Neil D on December 22, 2015, 03:00:21 PMQuote from: bobby01 on December 22, 2015, 02:27:55 PMNice one.
...Day 44: and rumours that a shining star is in the east and heralds the arrival from Israel of someone whose name begins with a J.
If true I won't be an ass and crib anymore, we desperately need a manger!
Will our messiah be announced officially on Riggsmas day..?
:Happy New Year 2: :xmas bell: xma1
Quote from: HV71 on December 22, 2015, 03:02:43 PMQuote from: Neil D on December 22, 2015, 03:00:21 PMQuote from: bobby01 on December 22, 2015, 02:27:55 PMNice one.
...Day 44: and rumours that a shining star is in the east and heralds the arrival from Israel of someone whose name begins with a J.
If true I won't be an ass and crib anymore, we desperately need a manger!
Will our messiah be announced officially on Riggsmas day..?
:Happy New Year 2: :xmas bell: xma1
Yes but look what happened to him in the end - despite performing miracles - he was crucified ( but not on a fans forum )
Quote from: HV71 on December 22, 2015, 03:02:43 PMQuote from: Neil D on December 22, 2015, 03:00:21 PMQuote from: bobby01 on December 22, 2015, 02:27:55 PMNice one.
...Day 44: and rumours that a shining star is in the east and heralds the arrival from Israel of someone whose name begins with a J.
If true I won't be an ass and crib anymore, we desperately need a manger!
Will our messiah be announced officially on Riggsmas day..?
:Happy New Year 2: :xmas bell: xma1
Yes but look what happened to him in the end - despite performing miracles - he was crucified ( but not on a fans forum )
Quote from: HV71 on December 22, 2015, 03:02:43 PMQuote from: Neil D on December 22, 2015, 03:00:21 PMQuote from: bobby01 on December 22, 2015, 02:27:55 PMNice one.
...Day 44: and rumours that a shining star is in the east and heralds the arrival from Israel of someone whose name begins with a J.
If true I won't be an ass and crib anymore, we desperately need a manger!
Will our messiah be announced officially on Riggsmas day..?
:Happy New Year 2: :xmas bell: xma1
Yes but look what happened to him in the end - despite performing miracles - he was crucified ( but not on a fans forum )
Quote from: Nero on December 22, 2015, 03:14:48 PMQuote from: HV71 on December 22, 2015, 03:02:43 PMQuote from: Neil D on December 22, 2015, 03:00:21 PMQuote from: bobby01 on December 22, 2015, 02:27:55 PMNice one.
...Day 44: and rumours that a shining star is in the east and heralds the arrival from Israel of someone whose name begins with a J.
If true I won't be an ass and crib anymore, we desperately need a manger!
Will our messiah be announced officially on Riggsmas day..?
:Happy New Year 2: :xmas bell: xma1
Yes but look what happened to him in the end - despite performing miracles - he was crucified ( but not on a fans forum )
and hes coming to a club that don't do well with crosses
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Very funny indeed, Nero!
Nogood "liked Sir Les's too, isit" Boyo
Quote from: Tonywa on December 22, 2015, 02:06:23 PM
Not forgetting Clint Dempsey who would go over if there was a slight gust of wind.
Quote from: westcliff white on December 22, 2015, 09:31:49 AMdo you think we could get Roy back when he is finished with the England jobQuote from: Riether Lightning 63 on December 21, 2015, 11:09:32 PMI actually thought Roy resigned before going to Liverpool, but was a long time ago it seems now and I have probably tried to block that from my mindQuote from: Snibbo on December 21, 2015, 11:07:52 PMQuote from: Riether Lightning 63 on December 21, 2015, 11:01:44 PMIsn't that jumping ship?Quote from: Snibbo on December 21, 2015, 10:59:17 PMQuote from: Riether Lightning 63 on December 21, 2015, 10:49:18 PMThat would be RoyQuote from: Wearethewhites on December 21, 2015, 10:47:09 PM
How long will he be with us before jumping ship?
Legitimate question, other than Mark Hughes, who was the last one TO jump ship?
I mean in the traditional sense. Wasn't he essentially bought by Liverpool
I suppose (late night, not thinking straight). OK, I'll re-ask the question. Who was the last manager to RESIGN
Quote from: Tonywa on December 22, 2015, 02:06:23 PMduff was a good man for it too but he did make sure to get the free kick while he was at it
Not forgetting Clint Dempsey who would go over if there was a slight gust of wind.
Quote from: Riverside on December 22, 2015, 03:12:11 PMshould have got a messiah with more experience to sustain miraclesQuote from: HV71 on December 22, 2015, 03:02:43 PMQuote from: Neil D on December 22, 2015, 03:00:21 PMQuote from: bobby01 on December 22, 2015, 02:27:55 PMNice one.
...Day 44: and rumours that a shining star is in the east and heralds the arrival from Israel of someone whose name begins with a J.
If true I won't be an ass and crib anymore, we desperately need a manger!
Will our messiah be announced officially on Riggsmas day..?
:Happy New Year 2: :xmas bell: xma1
Yes but look what happened to him in the end - despite performing miracles - he was crucified ( but not on a fans forum )
If there was a fans forum he would have been crucified there. Not the Messiah that they were waiting for ....
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Quote from: NogoodBoyo on December 22, 2015, 03:27:52 PMQuote from: Nero on December 22, 2015, 03:14:48 PMthat's gave me a good laughQuote from: HV71 on December 22, 2015, 03:02:43 PMQuote from: Neil D on December 22, 2015, 03:00:21 PMQuote from: bobby01 on December 22, 2015, 02:27:55 PMNice one.
...Day 44: and rumours that a shining star is in the east and heralds the arrival from Israel of someone whose name begins with a J.
If true I won't be an ass and crib anymore, we desperately need a manger!
Will our messiah be announced officially on Riggsmas day..?
:Happy New Year 2: :xmas bell: xma1
Yes but look what happened to him in the end - despite performing miracles - he was crucified ( but not on a fans forum )
and hes coming to a club that don't do well with crosses
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Very funny indeed, Nero!
Nogood "liked Sir Les's too, isit" Boyo
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Quote from: Riverside on December 22, 2015, 03:12:11 PMQuote from: HV71 on December 22, 2015, 03:02:43 PMQuote from: Neil D on December 22, 2015, 03:00:21 PMQuote from: bobby01 on December 22, 2015, 02:27:55 PMNice one.
...Day 44: and rumours that a shining star is in the east and heralds the arrival from Israel of someone whose name begins with a J.
If true I won't be an ass and crib anymore, we desperately need a manger!
Will our messiah be announced officially on Riggsmas day..?
:Happy New Year 2: :xmas bell: xma1
Yes but look what happened to him in the end - despite performing miracles - he was crucified ( but not on a fans forum )
If there was a fans forum he would have been crucified there. Not the Messiah that they were waiting for ....
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Quote from: Lighthouse on December 22, 2015, 03:38:58 PM
It will be yet another false profit.
Quote from: Wearethewhites on December 22, 2015, 04:50:44 PMWayne Veysey said the same last week on the podcast with Russ and Mike from what I remember
Hearing there is a stumbling block on the compensation. We won't match want Tel Aviv want. Hope this is wrong.
Quote from: MJG on December 22, 2015, 02:07:33 PMQuote from: Tonywa on December 22, 2015, 02:06:23 PMYou have just opened a massive can of worms with that comment
Not forgetting Clint Dempsey who would go over if there was a slight gust of wind.
I'd put the tin hat on right now.
Quote from: Wearethewhites on December 22, 2015, 04:50:44 PM
Hearing there is a stumbling block on the compensation. We won't match want Tel Aviv want. Hope this is wrong.
Quote from: PokerMatt on December 22, 2015, 06:53:23 PM
The stumbling block regarding compensation is probably that they want some.
Quote from: Buffalo76 on December 22, 2015, 06:43:07 PMQuote from: Wearethewhites on December 22, 2015, 04:50:44 PM
Hearing there is a stumbling block on the compensation. We won't match want Tel Aviv want. Hope this is wrong.
FFS. Don't tell me we're gonna mess up yet again due to penny pinching :dft007:
Quote from: mkras99 on December 22, 2015, 09:17:39 PM
Raphael Gellar @Raphael_Gellar 10m10 minutes ago Israel
Pardon the delay, right now Slavisa Jokanovic is still set to be Fulham manager. Still negotiating £ & Maccabi looking for new managers.
The only thing that would stop deal is if Maccabi's owner insists Slavisa does not leave. Seems unlikely since it's clear he wants job.
In the past when Slavisa was asked about being linked to QPR & Reading he insisted he's staying with Maccabi. Regarding Fulham, 'no comment'
It's also possible Maccabi's technical director Jordi Cruyff wants to find manager before letting Slavisa leave.
Bottom line: Unlike the previous Fulham candidates that fell through, it looks, as of this evening Slavisa Jokanovic is headed to Fulham.
Another twist in the story is many Serbian journalists have told me no one knows who or if Slavisa has an agent. Many say he reps himself.
Quote from: LBNo11 on December 22, 2015, 09:27:33 PMQuote from: mkras99 on December 22, 2015, 09:17:39 PM
Raphael Gellar @Raphael_Gellar 10m10 minutes ago Israel
Pardon the delay, right now Slavisa Jokanovic is still set to be Fulham manager. Still negotiating £ & Maccabi looking for new managers.
The only thing that would stop deal is if Maccabi's owner insists Slavisa does not leave. Seems unlikely since it's clear he wants job.
In the past when Slavisa was asked about being linked to QPR & Reading he insisted he's staying with Maccabi. Regarding Fulham, 'no comment'
It's also possible Maccabi's technical director Jordi Cruyff wants to find manager before letting Slavisa leave.
Bottom line: Unlike the previous Fulham candidates that fell through, it looks, as of this evening Slavisa Jokanovic is headed to Fulham.
Another twist in the story is many Serbian journalists have told me no one knows who or if Slavisa has an agent. Many say he reps himself.
...the twittersphere is buzzing with this from respected sources, this could be it Fulham fans..!
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on December 22, 2015, 10:27:28 PM
The shambles is only just beginning.
Quote from: Zendra on December 22, 2015, 10:30:00 PM
Poised to take over evidently. First Serbian manager we have ever had I would imagine .
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on December 22, 2015, 11:22:18 PMQuote from: Zendra on December 22, 2015, 10:30:00 PM
Poised to take over evidently. First Serbian manager we have ever had I would imagine .
Other than Tigana, Rene, Magath, Jol and Riedle if he counts most of our managers ever since the beginning in 1879 have been British. So I'd imagine most countries for a foreign manager will be a first for us.
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on December 22, 2015, 11:31:52 PMQuote from: dannyboi-ffc on December 22, 2015, 11:22:18 PMQuote from: Zendra on December 22, 2015, 10:30:00 PM
Poised to take over evidently. First Serbian manager we have ever had I would imagine .
Other than Tigana, Rene, Magath, Jol and Riedle if he counts most of our managers ever since the beginning in 1879 have been British. So I'd imagine most countries for a foreign manager will be a first for us.
Just had a quick look and I made the foreign managers Frank Osborne from South Africa, Riedle and Magath both German, Jol and Rene both Dutch and Tigana. Other than that I'm pretty sure they've all been British
Quote from: mkras99 on December 22, 2015, 09:17:39 PMfinding a manager before you let the one you have go, utter madness!
Raphael Gellar @Raphael_Gellar 10m10 minutes ago Israel
Pardon the delay, right now Slavisa Jokanovic is still set to be Fulham manager. Still negotiating £ & Maccabi looking for new managers.
The only thing that would stop deal is if Maccabi's owner insists Slavisa does not leave. Seems unlikely since it's clear he wants job.
In the past when Slavisa was asked about being linked to QPR & Reading he insisted he's staying with Maccabi. Regarding Fulham, 'no comment'
It's also possible Maccabi's technical director Jordi Cruyff wants to find manager before letting Slavisa leave.
Bottom line: Unlike the previous Fulham candidates that fell through, it looks, as of this evening Slavisa Jokanovic is headed to Fulham.
Another twist in the story is many Serbian journalists have told me no one knows who or if Slavisa has an agent. Many say he reps himself.
Quote from: Holders on December 23, 2015, 07:12:27 AMstill BritishQuote from: dannyboi-ffc on December 22, 2015, 11:31:52 PMQuote from: dannyboi-ffc on December 22, 2015, 11:22:18 PMQuote from: Zendra on December 22, 2015, 10:30:00 PM
Poised to take over evidently. First Serbian manager we have ever had I would imagine .
Other than Tigana, Rene, Magath, Jol and Riedle if he counts most of our managers ever since the beginning in 1879 have been British. So I'd imagine most countries for a foreign manager will be a first for us.
Just had a quick look and I made the foreign managers Frank Osborne from South Africa, Riedle and Magath both German, Jol and Rene both Dutch and Tigana. Other than that I'm pretty sure they've all been British
Hughes was Welsh.
Quote from: alexmur on December 23, 2015, 08:11:09 AMQuote from: Holders on December 23, 2015, 07:12:27 AMstill BritishQuote from: dannyboi-ffc on December 22, 2015, 11:31:52 PMQuote from: dannyboi-ffc on December 22, 2015, 11:22:18 PMQuote from: Zendra on December 22, 2015, 10:30:00 PM
Poised to take over evidently. First Serbian manager we have ever had I would imagine .
Other than Tigana, Rene, Magath, Jol and Riedle if he counts most of our managers ever since the beginning in 1879 have been British. So I'd imagine most countries for a foreign manager will be a first for us.
Just had a quick look and I made the foreign managers Frank Osborne from South Africa, Riedle and Magath both German, Jol and Rene both Dutch and Tigana. Other than that I'm pretty sure they've all been British
Hughes was Welsh.
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Quote from: Holders on December 23, 2015, 07:19:16 AMHe did say British. ...and not English....
And Symons - allegedly!
Quote from: Ged on December 23, 2015, 08:38:51 AMThe Britons lived in what is now England and Wales the Picts lived in Scotland
Strictly, and historically, it's only the Welsh who are actually "British". That was the irony of my comment!
Quote from: Holders on December 23, 2015, 09:46:32 AMQuote from: Ged on December 23, 2015, 08:38:51 AMThe Britons lived in what is now England and Wales the Picts lived in Scotland
Strictly, and historically, it's only the Welsh who are actually "British". That was the irony of my comment!
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on December 23, 2015, 09:34:35 AMQuote from: gerrys on December 23, 2015, 08:46:29 AMQuote from: Holders on December 23, 2015, 07:19:16 AMHe did say British. ...and not English....
And Symons - allegedly!
Apart from Tigana, historically most of our best Managers have been English.
Quote from: filham on December 23, 2015, 10:38:24 AMQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on December 23, 2015, 09:34:35 AMQuote from: gerrys on December 23, 2015, 08:46:29 AMQuote from: Holders on December 23, 2015, 07:19:16 AMHe did say British. ...and not English....
And Symons - allegedly!
Apart from Tigana, historically most of our best Managers have been English.
I am struggling to think of overseas Fulham managers other than Tigana and Jol.
Quote from: filham on December 23, 2015, 10:46:05 AM
So the state of play at the moment is that we are just waiting an agreement on compensation to Tel Aviv, all conditions with the new Head Coach having been settled.
Well surely such negotiations could be done and dusted in a few hours.
We are of course listening to media speculation and have no idea of the true situation.
Quote from: Wearethewhites on December 23, 2015, 11:37:05 AMAnd rigg is apparently helping them locate oneQuote from: filham on December 23, 2015, 10:46:05 AM
So the state of play at the moment is that we are just waiting an agreement on compensation to Tel Aviv, all conditions with the new Head Coach having been settled.
Well surely such negotiations could be done and dusted in a few hours.
We are of course listening to media speculation and have no idea of the true situation.
Not quite. Tel Aviv want a replacement in before Jokanovic leaves.
Quote from: westcliff white on December 23, 2015, 12:07:31 PMQuote from: Wearethewhites on December 23, 2015, 11:37:05 AMAnd rigg is apparently helping them locate oneQuote from: filham on December 23, 2015, 10:46:05 AM
So the state of play at the moment is that we are just waiting an agreement on compensation to Tel Aviv, all conditions with the new Head Coach having been settled.
Well surely such negotiations could be done and dusted in a few hours.
We are of course listening to media speculation and have no idea of the true situation.
Not quite. Tel Aviv want a replacement in before Jokanovic leaves.
Quote from: westcliff white on December 23, 2015, 12:07:31 PMQuote from: Wearethewhites on December 23, 2015, 11:37:05 AMAnd rigg is apparently helping them locate oneQuote from: filham on December 23, 2015, 10:46:05 AM
So the state of play at the moment is that we are just waiting an agreement on compensation to Tel Aviv, all conditions with the new Head Coach having been settled.
Well surely such negotiations could be done and dusted in a few hours.
We are of course listening to media speculation and have no idea of the true situation.
Not quite. Tel Aviv want a replacement in before Jokanovic leaves.
Quote from: Wearethewhites on December 23, 2015, 11:37:05 AMQuote from: filham on December 23, 2015, 10:46:05 AM
So the state of play at the moment is that we are just waiting an agreement on compensation to Tel Aviv, all conditions with the new Head Coach having been settled.
Well surely such negotiations could be done and dusted in a few hours.
We are of course listening to media speculation and have no idea of the true situation.
Not quite. Tel Aviv want a replacement in before Jokanovic leaves.
Quote from: westcliff white on December 23, 2015, 12:28:51 PM
apparently its all down to Johann Cruyff as to why we wait he is insisting they find a replacement first
Quote from: Ordar on December 23, 2015, 12:29:24 PMnope not at all, just saying who is the one pulling the stringsQuote from: westcliff white on December 23, 2015, 12:28:51 PM
apparently its all down to Johann Cruyff as to why we wait he is insisting they find a replacement first
Cannot blame them for that at all.
Quote from: Wearethewhites on December 23, 2015, 11:37:05 AMPerhaps Garcia will return to Maccabi. He's a free agent.
Not quite. Tel Aviv want a replacement in before Jokanovic leaves.
Quote from: Wearethewhites on December 23, 2015, 11:37:05 AMQuote from: filham on December 23, 2015, 10:46:05 AM
So the state of play at the moment is that we are just waiting an agreement on compensation to Tel Aviv, all conditions with the new Head Coach having been settled.
Well surely such negotiations could be done and dusted in a few hours.
We are of course listening to media speculation and have no idea of the true situation.
Not quite. Tel Aviv want a replacement in before Jokanovic leaves.
Quote from: westcliff white on December 23, 2015, 12:28:51 PM
apparently its all down to Johann Cruyff as to why we wait he is insisting they find a replacement first
Quote from: LBNo11 on December 23, 2015, 12:36:28 PM
Day 45: 45 RPM (Riggs Procastinating Management) is that a record..?
Quote from: SG on December 23, 2015, 01:52:59 PMQuote from: LBNo11 on December 23, 2015, 12:36:28 PM
Day 45: 45 RPM (Riggs Procastinating Management) is that a record..?
Maybe we are aiming to reach a 78 RPM - if you remember those !
Quote from: filham on December 23, 2015, 10:40:45 AMhe was more into cheese then medicine
Oh dear, how could I possibly forget Magath, we certainly don't want another dose of that medicine.
Quote from: Wearethewhites on December 23, 2015, 04:21:59 PM
The longer this drags on, the more I fear that we'll lose Jokanovic'. The idea of 'compensation' means that we're paying Tel Aviv a lot of money for their loss, waiting for a replacement shouldn't even come into the equation. Something doesn't sit right here, and it stinks of the Martin Jol approach first time around.
Quote from: nose on December 23, 2015, 04:45:06 PMQuote from: Wearethewhites on December 23, 2015, 04:21:59 PM
The longer this drags on, the more I fear that we'll lose Jokanovic'. The idea of 'compensation' means that we're paying Tel Aviv a lot of money for their loss, waiting for a replacement shouldn't even come into the equation. Something doesn't sit right here, and it stinks of the Martin Jol approach first time around.
I agree, something smells fishy and I have yet to really see any menaingful back up to the rumour. It may be true, but surely it would have been done by now, we shall see.
Quote from: Wearethewhites on December 23, 2015, 05:55:46 PMIs there room for any more egg on Rigg's face.
We are actually going to mess this one up.
Quote from: filham on December 23, 2015, 06:02:51 PMQuote from: Wearethewhites on December 23, 2015, 05:55:46 PMIs there room for any more egg on Rigg's face.
We are actually going to mess this one up.
Quote from: Wearethewhites on December 23, 2015, 06:18:59 PMQuote from: filham on December 23, 2015, 06:02:51 PMQuote from: Wearethewhites on December 23, 2015, 05:55:46 PMIs there room for any more egg on Rigg's face.
We are actually going to mess this one up.
Yes, strong reports coming out of Tel Aviv, that Jokanovic will hold a press conference tomorrow, announcing that he will stay with the Club. If true, FFC better prepare itself for the fallout that will follow. My fear is that a lot of fans will turn their back on the Shahid Kahn ownership.
Quote from: grandad on December 23, 2015, 06:27:38 PMQuote from: Wearethewhites on December 23, 2015, 06:18:59 PMQuote from: filham on December 23, 2015, 06:02:51 PMQuote from: Wearethewhites on December 23, 2015, 05:55:46 PMIs there room for any more egg on Rigg's face.
We are actually going to mess this one up.
Yes, strong reports coming out of Tel Aviv, that Jokanovic will hold a press conference tomorrow, announcing that he will stay with the Club. If true, FFC better prepare itself for the fallout that will follow. My fear is that a lot of fans will turn their back on the Shahid Kahn ownership.
What more do you expect of Khan. He can´t send in the SAS & Marine Corps to kidnap him. If he doesn´t want to come there is nothing anyone can do about it.
None of us know what is going on & reading every supposed quote from some obscure source is a waste of time.
Quote from: Wearethewhites on December 23, 2015, 06:18:59 PMIve not seen these rumpurs, where are they from?Quote from: filham on December 23, 2015, 06:02:51 PMQuote from: Wearethewhites on December 23, 2015, 05:55:46 PMIs there room for any more egg on Rigg's face.
We are actually going to mess this one up.
Yes, strong reports coming out of Tel Aviv, that Jokanovic will hold a press conference tomorrow, announcing that he will stay with the Club. If true, FFC better prepare itself for the fallout that will follow. My fear is that a lot of fans will turn their back on the Shahid Kahn ownership.
Quote from: rusty shackleford on December 23, 2015, 06:36:55 PM
Does anybody actually care anymore? I know i dont
Quote from: bill taylors apprentice on December 23, 2015, 06:42:40 PM
Whatever the outcome the club yet again fail to inspire confidence.
Of course there will always be confidential issues and sometimes keeping quiet is the best policy but there's a pattern emerging here of the clubs perceived shambolic practices.
If this goes belly up the club had better have a good reason or I will be as mad (even more than usual) as hell!
Quote from: grandad on December 23, 2015, 06:27:38 PMQuote from: Wearethewhites on December 23, 2015, 06:18:59 PMQuote from: filham on December 23, 2015, 06:02:51 PMQuote from: Wearethewhites on December 23, 2015, 05:55:46 PMIs there room for any more egg on Rigg's face.
We are actually going to mess this one up.
Yes, strong reports coming out of Tel Aviv, that Jokanovic will hold a press conference tomorrow, announcing that he will stay with the Club. If true, FFC better prepare itself for the fallout that will follow. My fear is that a lot of fans will turn their back on the Shahid Kahn ownership.
What more do you expect of Khan. He can´t send in the SAS & Marine Corps to kidnap him. If he doesn´t want to come there is nothing anyone can do about it.
None of us know what is going on & reading every supposed quote from some obscure source is a waste of time.
Quote from: Wearethewhites on December 23, 2015, 06:55:19 PMQuote from: bill taylors apprentice on December 23, 2015, 06:42:40 PM
Whatever the outcome the club yet again fail to inspire confidence.
Of course there will always be confidential issues and sometimes keeping quiet is the best policy but there's a pattern emerging here of the clubs perceived shambolic practices.
If this goes belly up the club had better have a good reason or I will be as mad (even more than usual) as hell!
IF this goes belly up ( we won't really known until the press conference tomorrow ) then I sense there will be complete uproar from the fans. This isn't just a coincidence now, like you say, a pattern is emerging, and I feel this is a complete P take where the fans are concerned. this simply isn't on.
Quote from: westcliff white on December 23, 2015, 07:07:55 PMisn't it being stated that we couldn't agree terms with the club. So either Rigg is trying to buy a Ferrari when he only has the money for a fiesta, or his haggling technique is just sh1t. Either way if it's true that we have failed to sign him then Rigg has messed us around again and increases our chances of relegation
if we don't get it this time I will be frustrated but I wont get angry or be in uproar as we ae the whites says, guess some/most will be though. reason is maybe the embargo puts people off coming, or perhaps Maccabi gave him more money, loads of possible reasons I guess. Frustrating definitely but we need the right man and not just any old person, I would have thought we would have got one of the first 5 onb our short list, but hey ho
Quote from: bill taylors apprentice on December 23, 2015, 07:15:26 PMrotten tomatoes in the face were deemed a nice thing to do in the medieval times.
I sit in the riverside stand (not a million miles from the directors box) and if this comes to nought I will find it hard not to let the likes of Rigg and Mackintosh know where they have failed the club.
In the nicest possible way of course.
Believe it or not the discontent in the riverside is more than just a few people tut tut tutting!
Quote from: fulhamben on December 23, 2015, 07:15:25 PMI was just on twitter and entered Slavisa JOkanovic Fulham and there is nothing saying he isn't coming just we are trying to agree compo and they look for a new guy before he goes. But I am no expert on the twitter area of thingsQuote from: westcliff white on December 23, 2015, 07:07:55 PMisn't it being stated that we couldn't agree terms with the club. So either Rigg is trying to buy a Ferrari when he only has the money for a fiesta, or his haggling technique is just sh1t. Either way if it's true that we have failed to sign him then Rigg has messed us around again and increases our chances of relegation
if we don't get it this time I will be frustrated but I wont get angry or be in uproar as we ae the whites says, guess some/most will be though. reason is maybe the embargo puts people off coming, or perhaps Maccabi gave him more money, loads of possible reasons I guess. Frustrating definitely but we need the right man and not just any old person, I would have thought we would have got one of the first 5 onb our short list, but hey ho
Quote from: bill taylors apprentice on December 23, 2015, 07:15:26 PM
I sit in the riverside stand (not a million miles from the directors box) and if this comes to nought I will find it hard not to let them likes of Rigg and Mackintosh know where they have failed the club.
In the nicest possible way of course.
Believe it or not the discontent in the riverside is more than just a few people tut tut tutting!
Quote from: SG on December 23, 2015, 07:32:00 PMQuote from: bill taylors apprentice on December 23, 2015, 07:15:26 PM
I sit in the riverside stand (not a million miles from the directors box) and if this comes to nought I will find it hard not to let them likes of Rigg and Mackintosh know where they have failed the club.
In the nicest possible way of course.
Believe it or not the discontent in the riverside is more than just a few people tut tut tutting!
I will be in block W on the 29th. I will happily give them a piece of my mind with you
Quote from: westcliff white on December 23, 2015, 07:27:48 PMQuote from: fulhamben on December 23, 2015, 07:15:25 PMI was just on twitter and entered Slavisa JOkanovic Fulham and there is nothing saying he isn't coming just we are trying to agree compo and they look for a new guy before he goes. But I am no expert on the twitter area of thingsQuote from: westcliff white on December 23, 2015, 07:07:55 PMisn't it being stated that we couldn't agree terms with the club. So either Rigg is trying to buy a Ferrari when he only has the money for a fiesta, or his haggling technique is just sh1t. Either way if it's true that we have failed to sign him then Rigg has messed us around again and increases our chances of relegation
if we don't get it this time I will be frustrated but I wont get angry or be in uproar as we ae the whites says, guess some/most will be though. reason is maybe the embargo puts people off coming, or perhaps Maccabi gave him more money, loads of possible reasons I guess. Frustrating definitely but we need the right man and not just any old person, I would have thought we would have got one of the first 5 onb our short list, but hey ho
Quote from: Wearethewhites on December 23, 2015, 07:36:44 PM
If Jokanovic sits the press conference tomorrow, talking about the game on Boxing Day, then this tells me he is still firmly in the the Tel Aviv driving seat. If we've offered the 'required' compensation, then Jokanovic should be able to walk, that's why compensation is paid. All this 'waiting for a replacement' doesn't sit well with me, and tells a different story.
I'm going to stick my neck out here and say, that Tel Aviv have managed to renegotiate with Jokanovic, offer him more money, and he'll confirm he's staying in tomorrow's press conference.
Quote from: Wearethewhites on December 23, 2015, 07:36:44 PMif that's the case surely that's out of our hands, we cant afford to offer above our budget due to the rules we have to adhere too. we are paying compo for three people as I understand and new salaries for 3 as well as he is bringing his 2 guys with him. my only gripe would be we hsold know the compo before we agree a deal rather than the other way around
If Jokanovic sits the press conference tomorrow, talking about the game on Boxing Day, then this tells me he is still firmly in the the Tel Aviv driving seat. If we've offered the 'required' compensation, then Jokanovic should be able to walk, that's why compensation is paid. All this 'waiting for a replacement' doesn't sit well with me, and tells a different story.
I'm going to stick my neck out here and say, that Tel Aviv have managed to renegotiate with Jokanovic, offer him more money, and he'll confirm he's staying in tomorrow's press conference.
Quote from: filham on December 23, 2015, 06:02:51 PMWell it's a massive head so I think so.Quote from: Wearethewhites on December 23, 2015, 05:55:46 PMIs there room for any more egg on Rigg's face.
We are actually going to mess this one up.
Quote from: west kowloon white on December 23, 2015, 10:03:20 PM
The slagging off ,whilst totally ignorant of the facts ,continues.
Quote from: west kowloon white on December 23, 2015, 10:03:20 PM
The slagging off ,whilst totally ignorant of the facts ,continues.
Quote from: west kowloon white on December 23, 2015, 10:03:20 PM
The slagging off ,whilst totally ignorant of the facts ,continues.
Quote from: west kowloon white on December 23, 2015, 10:56:20 PM
OK - so they have not appointed anyone for a period of 40 plus days- do you really believe this is deliberate / incompetent and they have not been trying?
As I said - the usuals.No slagging.
Merry Christmas Lighthouse.
Quote from: west kowloon white on December 23, 2015, 10:56:20 PM
OK - so they have not appointed anyone for a period of 40 plus days- do you really believe this is deliberate / incompetent and they have not been trying?
As I said - the usuals.No slagging.
Merry Christmas Lighthouse.
Quote from: Tonywa on December 23, 2015, 10:35:07 PM
I honestly don't think I can remember its like anywhere in all the years I have watched football.
Quote from: Lighthouse on December 23, 2015, 10:48:42 PMQuote from: west kowloon white on December 23, 2015, 10:03:20 PM
The slagging off ,whilst totally ignorant of the facts ,continues.
We may not know all the facts. But we do know some facts. Over 40 days without a manager. Two caretaker managers and no win since the sacking of the last manager. Sacked for not having enough points in the league for the desired ambition of reaching a play off place. These are the facts. These alone leave the club open to being slagged off.
Quote from: mkras99 on December 23, 2015, 07:15:37 PM
Raphael Gellar @Raphael_Gellar 26m26 minutes ago
Hopefully tomorrow morning things will be much clearer regarding Slavisa & Fulham. Press conference at 8AM UK time.
Any update? Can't find anything on social media. Strange.
Quote from: Tonywa on December 23, 2015, 10:35:07 PM
The time this farce is taking to play out anyone would think we were trying to persuade Fergie out of retirement or appoint Guardiola on a twenty year rolling contract not negotiating to appoint a decent, but hardly earth-shattering manager. Even if we get him and I for one hope we do, then I think the people running this club have already shown themselves up to be incompetent idiots and I think quite seriously that some sort of peaceful supporter's protest should be arranged to express our dissatisfaction. I honestly don't think I can remember its like anywhere in all the years I have watched football. The club has become a laughing stock under these morons and if Rigg and Macintosh have an iota of decency between them they should both offer their resignations. Interesting that in many of the discussions on radio about the USA businessmen bidding to take over Everton FFC has been held up as a dreadful warning as what can happen to a club when it is owned by Americans who don't have a clue about the game of how it runs. I don't think I've ever ben quite so near to tearing up my season ticket and finding something else to do on Saturday afternoons in all the time I have supported the club. I have run a couple of small businesses during the last twenty or so years and if I had been as useless at it as these people I would have expected to have gone under long ago. It's a pitiful spectacle.
Quote from: Domino1879 on December 24, 2015, 08:58:21 AMQuote from: Tonywa on December 23, 2015, 10:35:07 PM
The time this farce is taking to play out anyone would think we were trying to persuade Fergie out of retirement or appoint Guardiola on a twenty year rolling contract not negotiating to appoint a decent, but hardly earth-shattering manager. Even if we get him and I for one hope we do, then I think the people running this club have already shown themselves up to be incompetent idiots and I think quite seriously that some sort of peaceful supporter's protest should be arranged to express our dissatisfaction. I honestly don't think I can remember its like anywhere in all the years I have watched football. The club has become a laughing stock under these morons and if Rigg and Macintosh have an iota of decency between them they should both offer their resignations. Interesting that in many of the discussions on radio about the USA businessmen bidding to take over Everton FFC has been held up as a dreadful warning as what can happen to a club when it is owned by Americans who don't have a clue about the game of how it runs. I don't think I've ever ben quite so near to tearing up my season ticket and finding something else to do on Saturday afternoons in all the time I have supported the club. I have run a couple of small businesses during the last twenty or so years and if I had been as useless at it as these people I would have expected to have gone under long ago. It's a pitiful spectacle.
An accurate assessment.
There should be a lot more supporter involvement in running clubs imo.
Quote from: Arthur on December 24, 2015, 04:41:19 AMQuote from: Tonywa on December 23, 2015, 10:35:07 PM
I honestly don't think I can remember its like anywhere in all the years I have watched football.
Maybe the following list of clubs - all of whom have encountered difficulties within the last 15 years - will jog your memory:
Blackpool: as little as two weeks before last season was due to start, the Club had only eight players on its books.
Leeds: whose then chairman took out massive loans that forced the Club to sell its stadium and training ground - as well as its best players - in order to repay the money.
Portsmouth: failed to pay its players on time on several occasions during a season whilst it was still a PL club and subsequently went into administration twice in two years.
Coventry: built itself a new stadium, but was forced to sell it and rent its use, eventually resulting in a situation which led to the Club having to play its home matches 35 miles away.
What about Glasgow Rangers, Bolton, Birmingham and Darlington, moreover, to name but a handful of other clubs whose owners have overseen a demise with more serious consequences than we are enduring?
For the past few years, undeniably, matters have not have worked out as intended. We are, however, still far from the worst run club that there has ever been.
Quote from: SG on December 24, 2015, 09:05:04 AMQuote from: Domino1879 on December 24, 2015, 08:58:21 AMQuote from: Tonywa on December 23, 2015, 10:35:07 PM
The time this farce is taking to play out anyone would think we were trying to persuade Fergie out of retirement or appoint Guardiola on a twenty year rolling contract not negotiating to appoint a decent, but hardly earth-shattering manager. Even if we get him and I for one hope we do, then I think the people running this club have already shown themselves up to be incompetent idiots and I think quite seriously that some sort of peaceful supporter's protest should be arranged to express our dissatisfaction. I honestly don't think I can remember its like anywhere in all the years I have watched football. The club has become a laughing stock under these morons and if Rigg and Macintosh have an iota of decency between them they should both offer their resignations. Interesting that in many of the discussions on radio about the USA businessmen bidding to take over Everton FFC has been held up as a dreadful warning as what can happen to a club when it is owned by Americans who don't have a clue about the game of how it runs. I don't think I've ever ben quite so near to tearing up my season ticket and finding something else to do on Saturday afternoons in all the time I have supported the club. I have run a couple of small businesses during the last twenty or so years and if I had been as useless at it as these people I would have expected to have gone under long ago. It's a pitiful spectacle.
An accurate assessment.
There should be a lot more supporter involvement in running clubs imo.
What most people fail to take into account is that the two people running this show, Rigg and Mac are paid hundreds of thousands of pounds each year for their efforts (I can't remember the precise amounts but I seem to recall £800k being mentioned) and not the average wage that the average person earns. For these exceptional levels of pay one is entitled to expect exceptional levels of performance. If I was Khan I would be looking at what I am getting for my money. In my view he is being massively short changed.
Quote from: filham on December 24, 2015, 12:16:18 PMwhy is it looking likely
So, if the rumoured Jaconavic deal falls through, which is looking likely what happens next.
Are we back to square one and start the same procedure again with the ex Swansea manager. with an expected rejection date about 3 weeks down the line.
Isn't it time to Grab Danny Murphy or Lee Clarke,.
Quote from: westcliff white on December 24, 2015, 12:24:35 PMQuote from: filham on December 24, 2015, 12:16:18 PMwhy is it looking likely
So, if the rumoured Jaconavic deal falls through, which is looking likely what happens next.
Are we back to square one and start the same procedure again with the ex Swansea manager. with an expected rejection date about 3 weeks down the line.
Isn't it time to Grab Danny Murphy or Lee Clarke,.
Quote from: Fulham76 on December 24, 2015, 12:28:01 PMWhat about the idea that Maccabi want to get a new manager lined up before letting the current one go... now that sounds like a good idea. Wonder why Khan/Rigg did not thing of that ?Quote from: westcliff white on December 24, 2015, 12:24:35 PMQuote from: filham on December 24, 2015, 12:16:18 PMwhy is it looking likely
So, if the rumoured Jaconavic deal falls through, which is looking likely what happens next.
Are we back to square one and start the same procedure again with the ex Swansea manager. with an expected rejection date about 3 weeks down the line.
Isn't it time to Grab Danny Murphy or Lee Clarke,.
The fact it hasn't happened yet is a concern.
If he has agreed to join, accepted personal terms etc.. then that should be it, but for some reason the deal hasn't been finalised which isn't a good sign.
Don't suppose this mornings transfer embargo has helped matters though.
Quote from: Fulham76 on December 24, 2015, 12:28:01 PMIts only rumours either way but it seems Maccabi want a replacement in before leaves, whilst we may have agreed terms with him and a fee with them they can still refuse to sanction the deal before a replacement is found. He could walk out on them but he says he wants to show them respect, again just rumours. The other rumour is that Oscar Garcia (their previous manager) has flown in for Tel AvivQuote from: westcliff white on December 24, 2015, 12:24:35 PMQuote from: filham on December 24, 2015, 12:16:18 PMwhy is it looking likely
So, if the rumoured Jaconavic deal falls through, which is looking likely what happens next.
Are we back to square one and start the same procedure again with the ex Swansea manager. with an expected rejection date about 3 weeks down the line.
Isn't it time to Grab Danny Murphy or Lee Clarke,.
The fact it hasn't happened yet is a concern.
If he has agreed to join, accepted personal terms etc.. then that should be it, but for some reason the deal hasn't been finalised which isn't a good sign.
Don't suppose this mornings transfer embargo has helped matters though.
Quote from: Derby Fan on December 24, 2015, 05:07:43 PMEven if that were true, there still wouldn't be much money available to improve the squad, there again it wouldn't take any money to improve the current squad, I think we should sell, sell, sell in January!!
Could the Embargo put off a potential new manager? Maybe the ambitious ones would prefer to wait to build there own squad in the summer?
Quote from: Wearethewhites on December 24, 2015, 06:39:05 PM
Oh dear...
http://www.footballinsider247.com/exclusive/revealed-fulham-bid-to-appoint-jokanovic-as-manager-hits-snag (http://www.footballinsider247.com/exclusive/revealed-fulham-bid-to-appoint-jokanovic-as-manager-hits-snag)
Quote from: Wearethewhites on December 24, 2015, 06:39:05 PM
Oh dear...
http://www.footballinsider247.com/exclusive/revealed-fulham-bid-to-appoint-jokanovic-as-manager-hits-snag (http://www.footballinsider247.com/exclusive/revealed-fulham-bid-to-appoint-jokanovic-as-manager-hits-snag)
Quote from: ron on December 24, 2015, 06:52:29 PM
Still worth chasing Moyes in my book, unlikely as he is to come. After all look what's systematically happening to all the likely lads !
Each new face and subsequent refusal is reducing this club to nothing less than a music hall joke.
Quote from: Hoppus on December 24, 2015, 07:16:54 PM
If Macabi Tel Aviv are in talks with Garcia (he is in Israel now), is seems like they are prepeared to let him go.
Quote from: Oakeshott on December 24, 2015, 07:35:39 PM
There is another possible explanation - J and his advisors are simply using the Club's interest in him to improve his contract at Maccabi (or elsewhere).
Quote from: Oakeshott on December 24, 2015, 07:35:39 PM
There is another possible explanation - J and his advisors are simply using the Club's interest in him to improve his contract at Maccabi (or elsewhere).
Quote from: Oakeshott on December 24, 2015, 07:35:39 PM
There is another possible explanation - J and his advisors are simply using the Club's interest in him to improve his contract at Maccabi (or elsewhere).
[/quotQuote from: Oakeshott on December 24, 2015, 07:35:39 PM
There is another possible explanation - J and his advisors are simply using the Club's interest in him to improve his contract at Maccabi (or elsewhere).
They say Jakonovic got no agent.
Quote from: westcliff white on December 24, 2015, 07:47:33 PM
according to the Israeli press compo is agreed 250k, there is no more haggling over that, the delay seems to be them getting a replacement.
Its all rumours either way though
Quote from: f321ffc on December 24, 2015, 08:50:28 PM
Surely if this one goes tits up Rigg is toast , or is he? 090.gif
Unfortunately, Rigg still knows 500 times more about football than Khan, so don't expect any resignations.
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Quote from: Fulham Tup North on December 24, 2015, 10:35:03 PM
049:gif 200 Pages .... Go RL63
Quote from: HV71 on December 24, 2015, 10:38:53 PM
This thread is like crack cocaine - once you start you can't get off. It's Christmas Eve so why am I on here looking at this yet again . Nothing has happened in 46 days for God sake ! We are looking at a star in the east ( not that far from Jerusalem really ) . I'm cracking up
I need cold turkey - ( looking at the size of the bird in the fridge ) I will get plenty of that.
Merry Christmas everyone
Quote from: Hoppus on December 24, 2015, 10:52:14 PMQuote from: HV71 on December 24, 2015, 10:38:53 PM
This thread is like crack cocaine - once you start you can't get off. It's Christmas Eve so why am I on here looking at this yet again . Nothing has happened in 46 days for God sake ! We are looking at a star in the east ( not that far from Jerusalem really ) . I'm cracking up
I need cold turkey - ( looking at the size of the bird in the fridge ) I will get plenty of that.
Merry Christmas everyone
Spot on
Quote from: TheManOnTheBus on December 25, 2015, 08:54:35 AM
Then tweets that Monk is now possible,!
Quote from: TheManOnTheBus on December 25, 2015, 08:51:24 AM
"Football Insider (@footyinsider247)
24/12/2015, 22:57
Not off. But not far off. Off."
On Twitter last night on being asked if deal is off.
He has been accurate thus far, so doesn't sound good.
Quote from: Berserker on December 25, 2015, 09:54:45 AM
Ah but I think the the club feed him info they want to leak. That's just my opinion
Quote from: Hoppus on December 25, 2015, 10:35:49 AM
http://m.jpost.com/Israel-News/Sports/Jokanovics-status-still-up-in-the-air-438404#article=6020MjYzNjI3NTgwRDhBNkFCOUEwNjVGOTIxMDY2MjlGMUU= (http://m.jpost.com/Israel-News/Sports/Jokanovics-status-still-up-in-the-air-438404#article=6020MjYzNjI3NTgwRDhBNkFCOUEwNjVGOTIxMDY2MjlGMUU=)
Quote from: Wearethewhites on December 25, 2015, 10:47:58 AMQuote from: Hoppus on December 25, 2015, 10:35:49 AM
http://m.jpost.com/Israel-News/Sports/Jokanovics-status-still-up-in-the-air-438404#article=6020MjYzNjI3NTgwRDhBNkFCOUEwNjVGOTIxMDY2MjlGMUU= (http://m.jpost.com/Israel-News/Sports/Jokanovics-status-still-up-in-the-air-438404#article=6020MjYzNjI3NTgwRDhBNkFCOUEwNjVGOTIxMDY2MjlGMUU=)
Doesn't open
Quote from: fulhamben on December 25, 2015, 04:06:54 PM
It's up to you whether you believe me or not, and I'm pretty sure I've never posted spoof ones. But a certain family member of mine who works in football and is a friend of a certain member of a club ( very high up) has told me Jokanovic is a done deal. And I for one believe him. He has asked me not to name him and I will respect his wishes. I know it's all he said she said but personally as far as I'm concerned its the truth. So a big coyws and merry xmas
Quote from: fulhamben on December 25, 2015, 04:06:54 PM
It's up to you whether you believe me or not, and I'm pretty sure I've never posted spoof ones. But a certain family member of mine who works in football and is a friend of a certain member of a club ( very high up) has told me Jokanovic is a done deal. And I for one believe him. He has asked me not to name him and I will respect his wishes. I know it's all he said she said but personally as far as I'm concerned its the truth. So a big coyws and merry xmas
Quote from: Hoppus on December 25, 2015, 05:03:53 PMyes, sorry it's not much, and I'm usually the first to dig someone out who gives out these cryptic type of messages. I can see why some do it now as you genuinely don't want to get your source in troubleQuote from: fulhamben on December 25, 2015, 04:06:54 PM
It's up to you whether you believe me or not, and I'm pretty sure I've never posted spoof ones. But a certain family member of mine who works in football and is a friend of a certain member of a club ( very high up) has told me Jokanovic is a done deal. And I for one believe him. He has asked me not to name him and I will respect his wishes. I know it's all he said she said but personally as far as I'm concerned its the truth. So a big coyws and merry xmas
Thanks for sharing.
Quote from: TheManOnTheBus on December 25, 2015, 05:12:50 PMas I'm lead to believe. It is signed and can't be broken, but they are waiting on certain things. A huge stumbling block was his wife l, who he promised to that they would be sticking around where they were for an X amount of time
It's not announced so not a done deal, even if the parties are confident one can change their mind - but I believe you Ben and it is looking good. Merry Xmas
Quote from: Wearethewhites on December 25, 2015, 07:14:17 PMthat would make me look very foolish.
Someone just posted in the FFC Facebook page, claiming that Serbian press reckon the Jokanovic deal is dead.
Quote from: fulhamben on December 25, 2015, 08:33:36 PMQuote from: Wearethewhites on December 25, 2015, 07:14:17 PMthat would make me look very foolish.
Someone just posted in the FFC Facebook page, claiming that Serbian press reckon the Jokanovic deal is dead.
Quote from: Hoppus on December 25, 2015, 08:44:35 PMQuote from: fulhamben on December 25, 2015, 08:33:36 PMQuote from: Wearethewhites on December 25, 2015, 07:14:17 PMthat would make me look very foolish.
Someone just posted in the FFC Facebook page, claiming that Serbian press reckon the Jokanovic deal is dead.
I trust you
Quote from: westcliff white on December 24, 2015, 12:24:35 PMBecause it has gone on too long.Quote from: filham on December 24, 2015, 12:16:18 PMwhy is it looking likely
So, if the rumoured Jaconavic deal falls through, which is looking likely what happens next.
Are we back to square one and start the same procedure again with the ex Swansea manager. with an expected rejection date about 3 weeks down the line.
Isn't it time to Grab Danny Murphy or Lee Clarke,.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on December 25, 2015, 08:53:33 PMQuote from: Wearethewhites on December 25, 2015, 07:14:17 PM
Someone just posted in the FFC Facebook page, claiming that Serbian press reckon the Jokanovic deal is dead.
It seems to be the case, although some reports are conflicting.
Therefore, if that's the case, the club will go for Gary Monk, or Tony Mowbray, but it would not surprise me that unless the deal for them is lucrative enough, why would they want to work for Khan and under Rigg, at this time in the clubs current position, it's seems to have become a poisoned challis.
Quote from: Lighthouse on December 25, 2015, 11:11:29 PM
It hasn't fallen through.
Quote from: love4ffc on December 25, 2015, 11:30:12 PMSkybet have him @ 1/3 now
Have not posted on this thread in a while I find all the info both interesting and tedious at this point.
I really hope this is a done deal with Jokanovic. If it is not then I hope they get Monk finalized and in soon and stop all this speculation and drama over who our next manager/coach is.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on December 25, 2015, 11:07:12 PMWill soon be too thick for even a Mammoth to get its teeth into.
The plot thickens.
Quote from: bill taylors apprentice on December 26, 2015, 12:35:36 PMMore like The Pound Shop than John Lewis!
We are not capable of shopping at Harrods any more.
We now shop at the likes of John Lewis but we are risking losing out on a decent purchase by haggling over the delivery cost.
Of course I have no ideas if my example is true but its my perception and perception is everything !
Quote from: bill taylors apprentice on December 26, 2015, 12:35:36 PMCan someone please give Rigg directions to North End Road, he may find something we can afford in the market there.
We are not capable of shopping at Harrods any more.
We now shop at the likes of John Lewis but we are risking losing out on a decent purchase by haggling over the delivery cost.
Of course I have no ideas if my example is true but its my perception and perception is everything !
Quote from: filham on December 26, 2015, 01:02:21 PMQuote from: bill taylors apprentice on December 26, 2015, 12:35:36 PMCan someone please give Rigg directions to North End Road, he may find something we can afford in the market there.
We are not capable of shopping at Harrods any more.
We now shop at the likes of John Lewis but we are risking losing out on a decent purchase by haggling over the delivery cost.
Of course I have no ideas if my example is true but its my perception and perception is everything !
Quote from: bill taylors apprentice on December 26, 2015, 01:20:12 PMYou mean we have been Scrooged?Quote from: filham on December 26, 2015, 01:02:21 PMQuote from: bill taylors apprentice on December 26, 2015, 12:35:36 PMCan someone please give Rigg directions to North End Road, he may find something we can afford in the market there.
We are not capable of shopping at Harrods any more.
We now shop at the likes of John Lewis but we are risking losing out on a decent purchase by haggling over the delivery cost.
Of course I have no ideas if my example is true but its my perception and perception is everything !
That's the sad part.
Until I see the evidence to prove otherwise we are better than the market or pound shop (no disrespect) but we are being seen as miserly rather than just business like.
Quote from: Jem on December 26, 2015, 01:23:11 PMQuote from: bill taylors apprentice on December 26, 2015, 01:20:12 PMYou mean we have been Scrooged?Quote from: filham on December 26, 2015, 01:02:21 PMQuote from: bill taylors apprentice on December 26, 2015, 12:35:36 PMCan someone please give Rigg directions to North End Road, he may find something we can afford in the market there.
We are not capable of shopping at Harrods any more.
We now shop at the likes of John Lewis but we are risking losing out on a decent purchase by haggling over the delivery cost.
Of course I have no ideas if my example is true but its my perception and perception is everything !
That's the sad part.
Until I see the evidence to prove otherwise we are better than the market or pound shop (no disrespect) but we are being seen as miserly rather than just business like.
Quote from: Hoppus on December 26, 2015, 09:11:13 PM
Gellar with another 'update' on Twitter: ONE reporting that Fulham not agreeing to pay Maccabi their price would be #1 reason for Slavisa Jokanovic deal to collapse.
Quote from: mkras99 on December 26, 2015, 09:29:21 PMQuote from: Hoppus on December 26, 2015, 09:11:13 PM
Gellar with another 'update' on Twitter: ONE reporting that Fulham not agreeing to pay Maccabi their price would be #1 reason for Slavisa Jokanovic deal to collapse.
Gellar saying it's all about whether Fulham will meet Macabi's fee and 70/30 that Jokanovic is coming. Well beyond ridiculous at this point.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on December 26, 2015, 10:28:36 PM
If we have to go for a cheap alternative, how about Derek Adams.
Took Ross County up to the Premier from 2 divs below,and has now turned
Plymouth round taking them to top..Good young Coach,and Fergie has spoken
well of him..Just a thought,give a good young coach a chance..
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on December 26, 2015, 10:28:36 PM,
If we have to go for a cheap alternative, how about Derek Adams.
Took Ross County up to the Premier from 2 divs below,and has now turned
Plymouth round taking them to top..Good young Coach,and Fergie has spoken
well of him..Just a thought,give a good young coach a chance..
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on December 27, 2015, 07:54:52 AMQuote from: Twig on December 27, 2015, 07:31:37 AM
If we don't land Joka after getting so very close, and given that it would appear to have come down to a a failure to agree relatively minor compensation, then that is it for me. I will return to the UK next year after retiring from my job in Dubai and had planned to get season tickets for myself and my wife. With this shower in charge and this useless owner; FORGET IT.
The way things are going, by the time you return to England, you will be able to turn up on match day, and pay through the Turnstile, and then select where you wish to sit, at your leisure.
Quote from: grandad on December 27, 2015, 08:56:15 AMAnd you can swap ends at half timeQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on December 27, 2015, 07:54:52 AMQuote from: Twig on December 27, 2015, 07:31:37 AM
If we don't land Joka after getting so very close, and given that it would appear to have come down to a a failure to agree relatively minor compensation, then that is it for me. I will return to the UK next year after retiring from my job in Dubai and had planned to get season tickets for myself and my wife. With this shower in charge and this useless owner; FORGET IT.
The way things are going, by the time you return to England, you will be able to turn up on match day, and pay through the Turnstile, and then select where you wish to sit, at your leisure.
Ahh those were the days. I remember them well. Very civilized.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on December 27, 2015, 07:54:52 AM
The way things are going, by the time you return to England, you will be able to turn up on match day, and pay through the Turnstile, and then select where you wish to sit, at your leisure.
Quote from: Wearethewhites on December 27, 2015, 12:15:22 PM
From a pretty reliable source, Jokanovic is now likely to stay with Maccabi. Unsure of the real reasons, I'm sure they'll come to light after today's game, but that's the current state of play anyway. If true, which I think is the likely outcome now, I'm absolutely appalled and disgusted in Fulham's professionalism over this. 48 days and counting and to leave every Fulhsm fan hanging like this is not acceptable.
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on December 27, 2015, 12:35:10 PMit could just mean we are waiting for them to get a replacement, he could also have changed his mind because of the embargo, it could be that if we wait till the new year we might pay less compensation, there is one thing we do know and that's we don't know what's going on.Quote from: Wearethewhites on December 27, 2015, 12:15:22 PM
From a pretty reliable source, Jokanovic is now likely to stay with Maccabi. Unsure of the real reasons, I'm sure they'll come to light after today's game, but that's the current state of play anyway. If true, which I think is the likely outcome now, I'm absolutely appalled and disgusted in Fulham's professionalism over this. 48 days and counting and to leave every Fulhsm fan hanging like this is not acceptable.
When negotiations drag on like this it means there are serious differences - I expect the jok thing to fall through. I fear of who we now end up with.
Quote from: alexmur on December 27, 2015, 01:12:26 PMQuote from: Slaphead in Qatar on December 27, 2015, 12:35:10 PMit could just mean we are waiting for them to get a replacement, he could also have changed his mind because of the embargo, it could be that if we wait till the new year we might pay less compensation, there is one thing we do know and that's we don't know what's going on.Quote from: Wearethewhites on December 27, 2015, 12:15:22 PM
From a pretty reliable source, Jokanovic is now likely to stay with Maccabi. Unsure of the real reasons, I'm sure they'll come to light after today's game, but that's the current state of play anyway. If true, which I think is the likely outcome now, I'm absolutely appalled and disgusted in Fulham's professionalism over this. 48 days and counting and to leave every Fulhsm fan hanging like this is not acceptable.
When negotiations drag on like this it means there are serious differences - I expect the jok thing to fall through. I fear of who we now end up with.
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Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on December 27, 2015, 12:35:10 PMQuote from: Wearethewhites on December 27, 2015, 12:15:22 PM
From a pretty reliable source, Jokanovic is now likely to stay with Maccabi. Unsure of the real reasons, I'm sure they'll come to light after today's game, but that's the current state of play anyway. If true, which I think is the likely outcome now, I'm absolutely appalled and disgusted in Fulham's professionalism over this. 48 days and counting and to leave every Fulhsm fan hanging like this is not acceptable.
When negotiations drag on like this it means there are serious differences - I expect the jok thing to fall through. I fear of who we now end up with.
Quote from: Fulham76 on December 27, 2015, 01:18:21 PMI have not been expecting them to tell us who they are going for and how the talks are going, maybe that's just me though. I don't remember other clubs doing it wither but perhaps I missed other teams doing thatQuote from: alexmur on December 27, 2015, 01:12:26 PMQuote from: Slaphead in Qatar on December 27, 2015, 12:35:10 PMit could just mean we are waiting for them to get a replacement, he could also have changed his mind because of the embargo, it could be that if we wait till the new year we might pay less compensation, there is one thing we do know and that's we don't know what's going on.Quote from: Wearethewhites on December 27, 2015, 12:15:22 PM
From a pretty reliable source, Jokanovic is now likely to stay with Maccabi. Unsure of the real reasons, I'm sure they'll come to light after today's game, but that's the current state of play anyway. If true, which I think is the likely outcome now, I'm absolutely appalled and disgusted in Fulham's professionalism over this. 48 days and counting and to leave every Fulhsm fan hanging like this is not acceptable.
When negotiations drag on like this it means there are serious differences - I expect the jok thing to fall through. I fear of who we now end up with.
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The fact we dont know what is going on is pretty disgraceful from the club. Haven't heard a word from them, not even a one line comment on the website to reassure the fans!
The least they could do is make a little comment & acknowledge the fans frustrations, reassure us that they are doing their best to get someone in place, yet we hear nothing at all.
Disgraceful
Quote from: westcliff white on December 27, 2015, 01:47:46 PMQuote from: Fulham76 on December 27, 2015, 01:18:21 PMI have not been expecting them to tell us who they are going for and how the talks are going, maybe that's just me though. I don't remember other clubs doing it wither but perhaps I missed other teams doing thatQuote from: alexmur on December 27, 2015, 01:12:26 PMQuote from: Slaphead in Qatar on December 27, 2015, 12:35:10 PMit could just mean we are waiting for them to get a replacement, he could also have changed his mind because of the embargo, it could be that if we wait till the new year we might pay less compensation, there is one thing we do know and that's we don't know what's going on.Quote from: Wearethewhites on December 27, 2015, 12:15:22 PM
From a pretty reliable source, Jokanovic is now likely to stay with Maccabi. Unsure of the real reasons, I'm sure they'll come to light after today's game, but that's the current state of play anyway. If true, which I think is the likely outcome now, I'm absolutely appalled and disgusted in Fulham's professionalism over this. 48 days and counting and to leave every Fulhsm fan hanging like this is not acceptable.
When negotiations drag on like this it means there are serious differences - I expect the jok thing to fall through. I fear of who we now end up with.
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The fact we dont know what is going on is pretty disgraceful from the club. Haven't heard a word from them, not even a one line comment on the website to reassure the fans!
The least they could do is make a little comment & acknowledge the fans frustrations, reassure us that they are doing their best to get someone in place, yet we hear nothing at all.
Disgraceful
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on December 27, 2015, 02:36:55 PM
Fulham agree compensation over new boss
DEC 27, 2015 CHAMPIONSHIP, FEATURED, FULHAM, NEWS
Fulham have agreed compensation with Maccabi Tel Aviv over making Slavisa Jokanovic the London club's new boss, according to a report.
It is understood that Fulham have been in talks with Jokanovic about taking over at the club for the past few days. With around £250,000 compensation now having been agreed with Tel Aviv, the deal looks set to go ahead.
Fulham have been without a manager since they sacked Kit Symons in early November so have taken their time in appointing a new man. Several names have been linked with the job, such as Nigel Pearson and Paul Lambert, but moves for most failed to materialise.
It now looks as if Fulham have finally got their man however, after nearly two months of looking. Jokanovic has been identified as the man with the ability to take Fulham back up to the Premier League. This is in part due to his achievement with Watford last season, when he took the club up.
http://the72.co.uk/42825/fulham-agree-compensation-over-new-boss/ (http://the72.co.uk/42825/fulham-agree-compensation-over-new-boss/)
Quote from: LBNo11 on December 27, 2015, 02:49:20 PM
...hot off the press:-
http://the72.co.uk/42825/fulham-agree-compensation-over-new-boss/ (http://the72.co.uk/42825/fulham-agree-compensation-over-new-boss/)
BY TOM ALLEN ON DEC 27, 2015 CHAMPIONSHIP, FEATURED, FULHAM, NEWS
Fulham have agreed compensation with Maccabi Tel Aviv over making Slavisa Jokanovic the London club's new boss, according to a report.
It is understood that Fulham have been in talks with Jokanovic about taking over at the club for the past few days. With around £250,000 compensation now having been agreed with Tel Aviv, the deal looks set to go ahead.
Fulham have been without a manager since they sacked Kit Symons in early November so have taken their time in appointing a new man. Several names have been linked with the job, such as Nigel Pearson and Paul Lambert, but moves for most failed to materialise.
It now looks as if Fulham have finally got their man however, after nearly two months of looking. Jokanovic has been identified as the man with the ability to take Fulham back up to the Premier League. This is in part due to his achievement with Watford last season, when he took the club up.
Quote from: Fulham76 on December 27, 2015, 01:18:21 PMhttp://the72.co.uk/42825/fulham-agree-compensation-over-new-boss/ aparantly we have settled on compensationQuote from: alexmur on December 27, 2015, 01:12:26 PMQuote from: Slaphead in Qatar on December 27, 2015, 12:35:10 PMit could just mean we are waiting for them to get a replacement, he could also have changed his mind because of the embargo, it could be that if we wait till the new year we might pay less compensation, there is one thing we do know and that's we don't know what's going on.Quote from: Wearethewhites on December 27, 2015, 12:15:22 PM
From a pretty reliable source, Jokanovic is now likely to stay with Maccabi. Unsure of the real reasons, I'm sure they'll come to light after today's game, but that's the current state of play anyway. If true, which I think is the likely outcome now, I'm absolutely appalled and disgusted in Fulham's professionalism over this. 48 days and counting and to leave every Fulhsm fan hanging like this is not acceptable.
When negotiations drag on like this it means there are serious differences - I expect the jok thing to fall through. I fear of who we now end up with.
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The fact we dont know what is going on is pretty disgraceful from the club. Haven't heard a word from them, not even a one line comment on the website to reassure the fans!
The least they could do is make a little comment & acknowledge the fans frustrations, reassure us that they are doing their best to get someone in place, yet we hear nothing at all.
Disgraceful
Quote from: fulhamben on December 27, 2015, 08:58:24 AMQuote from: grandad on December 27, 2015, 08:56:15 AMAnd you can swap ends at half timeQuote from: Woolly Mammoth on December 27, 2015, 07:54:52 AMQuote from: Twig on December 27, 2015, 07:31:37 AM
If we don't land Joka after getting so very close, and given that it would appear to have come down to a a failure to agree relatively minor compensation, then that is it for me. I will return to the UK next year after retiring from my job in Dubai and had planned to get season tickets for myself and my wife. With this shower in charge and this useless owner; FORGET IT.
The way things are going, by the time you return to England, you will be able to turn up on match day, and pay through the Turnstile, and then select where you wish to sit, at your leisure.
Ahh those were the days. I remember them well. Very civilized.
Quote from: Fulham76 on December 27, 2015, 02:37:24 PMQuote from: westcliff white on December 27, 2015, 01:47:46 PMQuote from: Fulham76 on December 27, 2015, 01:18:21 PMI have not been expecting them to tell us who they are going for and how the talks are going, maybe that's just me though. I don't remember other clubs doing it wither but perhaps I missed other teams doing thatQuote from: alexmur on December 27, 2015, 01:12:26 PMQuote from: Slaphead in Qatar on December 27, 2015, 12:35:10 PMit could just mean we are waiting for them to get a replacement, he could also have changed his mind because of the embargo, it could be that if we wait till the new year we might pay less compensation, there is one thing we do know and that's we don't know what's going on.Quote from: Wearethewhites on December 27, 2015, 12:15:22 PM
From a pretty reliable source, Jokanovic is now likely to stay with Maccabi. Unsure of the real reasons, I'm sure they'll come to light after today's game, but that's the current state of play anyway. If true, which I think is the likely outcome now, I'm absolutely appalled and disgusted in Fulham's professionalism over this. 48 days and counting and to leave every Fulhsm fan hanging like this is not acceptable.
When negotiations drag on like this it means there are serious differences - I expect the jok thing to fall through. I fear of who we now end up with.
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The fact we dont know what is going on is pretty disgraceful from the club. Haven't heard a word from them, not even a one line comment on the website to reassure the fans!
The least they could do is make a little comment & acknowledge the fans frustrations, reassure us that they are doing their best to get someone in place, yet we hear nothing at all.
Disgraceful
They aren't going to tell us who they are looking to appoint & im not suggesting they should. But don't you think the fans are entitled to some sort of explanation as to what's happening? I certainly do & so do many more fans.
It is very possible for the club to talk to its fans without giving out specific details. It would have been appreciated if they had acknowledged the delay & reassured the fans that they were trying their hardest to make the right appointment for the club. Instead all we've heard is rumours from the media & 2nd hand information that fans have managed to dig out.
For all we know the board are sitting on their arses enjoying the run up to Christmas & Christmas break. How do we know they are trying? I'm sure they are but I get the impression they're not!
So I don't think you've missed other clubs behaving in a different way when they've been without a manager but what other clubs leave it so long to appoint a new man after dumping the last?
Quote from: alexmur on December 27, 2015, 03:05:31 PMQuote from: Fulham76 on December 27, 2015, 01:18:21 PMhttp://the72.co.uk/42825/fulham-agree-compensation-over-new-boss/ (http://the72.co.uk/42825/fulham-agree-compensation-over-new-boss/) aparantly we have settled on compensationQuote from: alexmur on December 27, 2015, 01:12:26 PMQuote from: Slaphead in Qatar on December 27, 2015, 12:35:10 PMit could just mean we are waiting for them to get a replacement, he could also have changed his mind because of the embargo, it could be that if we wait till the new year we might pay less compensation, there is one thing we do know and that's we don't know what's going on.Quote from: Wearethewhites on December 27, 2015, 12:15:22 PM
From a pretty reliable source, Jokanovic is now likely to stay with Maccabi. Unsure of the real reasons, I'm sure they'll come to light after today's game, but that's the current state of play anyway. If true, which I think is the likely outcome now, I'm absolutely appalled and disgusted in Fulham's professionalism over this. 48 days and counting and to leave every Fulhsm fan hanging like this is not acceptable.
When negotiations drag on like this it means there are serious differences - I expect the jok thing to fall through. I fear of who we now end up with.
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The fact we dont know what is going on is pretty disgraceful from the club. Haven't heard a word from them, not even a one line comment on the website to reassure the fans!
The least they could do is make a little comment & acknowledge the fans frustrations, reassure us that they are doing their best to get someone in place, yet we hear nothing at all.
Disgraceful
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Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on December 27, 2015, 03:31:24 PMQuote from: Fulham76 on December 27, 2015, 02:37:24 PMQuote from: westcliff white on December 27, 2015, 01:47:46 PMQuote from: Fulham76 on December 27, 2015, 01:18:21 PMI have not been expecting them to tell us who they are going for and how the talks are going, maybe that's just me though. I don't remember other clubs doing it wither but perhaps I missed other teams doing thatQuote from: alexmur on December 27, 2015, 01:12:26 PMQuote from: Slaphead in Qatar on December 27, 2015, 12:35:10 PMit could just mean we are waiting for them to get a replacement, he could also have changed his mind because of the embargo, it could be that if we wait till the new year we might pay less compensation, there is one thing we do know and that's we don't know what's going on.Quote from: Wearethewhites on December 27, 2015, 12:15:22 PM
From a pretty reliable source, Jokanovic is now likely to stay with Maccabi. Unsure of the real reasons, I'm sure they'll come to light after today's game, but that's the current state of play anyway. If true, which I think is the likely outcome now, I'm absolutely appalled and disgusted in Fulham's professionalism over this. 48 days and counting and to leave every Fulhsm fan hanging like this is not acceptable.
When negotiations drag on like this it means there are serious differences - I expect the jok thing to fall through. I fear of who we now end up with.
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The fact we dont know what is going on is pretty disgraceful from the club. Haven't heard a word from them, not even a one line comment on the website to reassure the fans!
The least they could do is make a little comment & acknowledge the fans frustrations, reassure us that they are doing their best to get someone in place, yet we hear nothing at all.
Disgraceful
They aren't going to tell us who they are looking to appoint & im not suggesting they should. But don't you think the fans are entitled to some sort of explanation as to what's happening? I certainly do & so do many more fans.
It is very possible for the club to talk to its fans without giving out specific details. It would have been appreciated if they had acknowledged the delay & reassured the fans that they were trying their hardest to make the right appointment for the club. Instead all we've heard is rumours from the media & 2nd hand information that fans have managed to dig out.
For all we know the board are sitting on their arses enjoying the run up to Christmas & Christmas break. How do we know they are trying? I'm sure they are but I get the impression they're not!
So I don't think you've missed other clubs behaving in a different way when they've been without a manager but what other clubs leave it so long to appoint a new man after dumping the last?
So what exactly are you expecting the club to say? What could they say to explain what is happening beyond we are talking to potential targets?
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on December 27, 2015, 03:31:24 PMSometimes even platitudes would be appreciated. How about:
So what exactly are you expecting the club to say? What could they say to explain what is happening beyond we are talking to potential targets.
Quote from: Neil D on December 27, 2015, 03:43:20 PMQuote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on December 27, 2015, 03:31:24 PMSometimes even platitudes would be appreciated. How about:
So what exactly are you expecting the club to say? What could they say to explain what is happening beyond we are talking to potential targets.
'The Club is aware of the frustration and concern currently being experienced by our fans over the delay in securing a new head coach. It was never our intention that it would take this long but we are actively following several avenues and believe that we will be able to make an appointment very soon. In the meantime, we hope the fans will be patient for just a little bit longer as this appointment needs to be one able to take us forward in our bid to return to the Premier League.' Blah blah.
Quote from: SG on December 27, 2015, 03:44:10 PM
I would like them to say whatever a well run, efficient, competent service based, customer facing organisation would say.
For example -
We recognise that the international break by which we hoped to have appointed somebody is long gone
We recognise that we are now in our 8th week without a manager and that is disappointing for everyone
We can reassure you that we have held discussions with several people but do not feel they are suitable for the role
We recognise that this is unacceptable and disruptive to the players although Stuart is doing his very best on behalf of us all
We can assure you all that we are working night and day, leaving no stone unturned to secure the person we think is best to lead the club back to the Premier League
As soon as that person is secured you will be the first to be know.
That would do for starters. Actually tells us nothing but at least is a communication to the people who actually care the most.
Quote from: SG on December 27, 2015, 03:44:10 PM
I would like them to say whatever a well run, efficient, competent service based, customer facing organisation would say.
For example -
We recognise that the international break by which we hoped to have appointed somebody is long gone
We recognise that we are now in our 8th week without a manager and that is disappointing for everyone
We can reassure you that we have held discussions with several people but do not feel they are suitable for the role
We recognise that this is unacceptable and disruptive to the players although Stuart is doing his very best on behalf of us all
We can assure you all that we are working night and day, leaving no stone unturned to secure the person we think is best to lead the club back to the Premier League
As soon as that person is secured you will be the first to be know.
That would do for starters. Actually tells us nothing but at least is a communication to the people who actually care the most.
Quote from: Riether Lightning 63 on December 27, 2015, 02:53:43 PMQuote from: LBNo11 on December 27, 2015, 02:49:20 PMTell the truth RL63, you just don't want this thread to ever end. These records have gone to your head. You will need to let it go at some point. Better come to terms with the inevitable sooner rather than later. Happy New Year!
...hot off the press:-
http://the72.co.uk/42825/fulham-agree-compensation-over-new-boss/ (http://the72.co.uk/42825/fulham-agree-compensation-over-new-boss/)
BY TOM ALLEN ON DEC 27, 2015 CHAMPIONSHIP, FEATURED, FULHAM, NEWS
I don't believe sites like this, not legitimate journalism. It's basically a glorified blog
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on December 27, 2015, 03:51:53 PMQuote from: Riether Lightning 63 on December 27, 2015, 02:53:43 PMQuote from: LBNo11 on December 27, 2015, 02:49:20 PMTell the truth RL63, you just don't want this thread to ever end. These records have gone to your head. You will need to let it go at some point. Better come to terms with the inevitable sooner rather than later. Happy New Year!
...hot off the press:-
http://the72.co.uk/42825/fulham-agree-compensation-over-new-boss/ (http://the72.co.uk/42825/fulham-agree-compensation-over-new-boss/)
BY TOM ALLEN ON DEC 27, 2015 CHAMPIONSHIP, FEATURED, FULHAM, NEWS
I don't believe sites like this, not legitimate journalism. It's basically a glorified blog
It's a little from Column A and a little from Column B.
A) I legitimately don't believe anything these kind of sites say
B) This thread has broken the replies record, once it breaks the views record, then I'll be undisputed king of the mountain (instead of sharing it)
Quote from: Riether Lightning 63 on December 27, 2015, 03:54:07 PMQuote from: Fulham Tup North on December 27, 2015, 03:51:53 PMI dont want to take away from your glory, but is this thread not lots of threads merged together?Quote from: Riether Lightning 63 on December 27, 2015, 02:53:43 PMQuote from: LBNo11 on December 27, 2015, 02:49:20 PMTell the truth RL63, you just don't want this thread to ever end. These records have gone to your head. You will need to let it go at some point. Better come to terms with the inevitable sooner rather than later. Happy New Year!
...hot off the press:-
http://the72.co.uk/42825/fulham-agree-compensation-over-new-boss/ (http://the72.co.uk/42825/fulham-agree-compensation-over-new-boss/)
BY TOM ALLEN ON DEC 27, 2015 CHAMPIONSHIP, FEATURED, FULHAM, NEWS
I don't believe sites like this, not legitimate journalism. It's basically a glorified blog
It's a little from Column A and a little from Column B.
A) I legitimately don't believe anything these kind of sites say
B) This thread has broken the replies record, once it breaks the views record, then I'll be undisputed king of the mountain (instead of sharing it)
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Quote from: Fulham Tup North on December 27, 2015, 03:51:53 PMThat's correct - including mine so I want a share of the fame...
I dont want to take away from your glory, but is this thread not lots of threads merged together?
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Quote from: Fulham76 on December 27, 2015, 02:37:24 PMI think football as a the business it is today that just doesn't happen, moreover Rigg isn't going to update us every day or so or every week to let us know whats what otherwise it wouldn't stop at just manager appointments. So for me as much as I would like to know I don't fell the club have to tell me anything as that's just how clubs are run today.Quote from: westcliff white on December 27, 2015, 01:47:46 PMQuote from: Fulham76 on December 27, 2015, 01:18:21 PMI have not been expecting them to tell us who they are going for and how the talks are going, maybe that's just me though. I don't remember other clubs doing it wither but perhaps I missed other teams doing thatQuote from: alexmur on December 27, 2015, 01:12:26 PMQuote from: Slaphead in Qatar on December 27, 2015, 12:35:10 PMit could just mean we are waiting for them to get a replacement, he could also have changed his mind because of the embargo, it could be that if we wait till the new year we might pay less compensation, there is one thing we do know and that's we don't know what's going on.Quote from: Wearethewhites on December 27, 2015, 12:15:22 PM
From a pretty reliable source, Jokanovic is now likely to stay with Maccabi. Unsure of the real reasons, I'm sure they'll come to light after today's game, but that's the current state of play anyway. If true, which I think is the likely outcome now, I'm absolutely appalled and disgusted in Fulham's professionalism over this. 48 days and counting and to leave every Fulhsm fan hanging like this is not acceptable.
When negotiations drag on like this it means there are serious differences - I expect the jok thing to fall through. I fear of who we now end up with.
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The fact we dont know what is going on is pretty disgraceful from the club. Haven't heard a word from them, not even a one line comment on the website to reassure the fans!
The least they could do is make a little comment & acknowledge the fans frustrations, reassure us that they are doing their best to get someone in place, yet we hear nothing at all.
Disgraceful
They aren't going to tell us who they are looking to appoint & im not suggesting they should. But don't you think the fans are entitled to some sort of explanation as to what's happening? I certainly do & so do many more fans.
It is very possible for the club to talk to its fans without giving out specific details. It would have been appreciated if they had acknowledged the delay & reassured the fans that they were trying their hardest to make the right appointment for the club. Instead all we've heard is rumours from the media & 2nd hand information that fans have managed to dig out.
For all we know the board are sitting on their arses enjoying the run up to Christmas & Christmas break. How do we know they are trying? I'm sure they are but I get the impression they're not!
So I don't think you've missed other clubs behaving in a different way when they've been without a manager but what other clubs leave it so long to appoint a new man after dumping the last?
Quote from: Neil D on December 27, 2015, 04:12:55 PMlol
This is my 1000th post. In keeping with its 999 predecessors it has nothing useful or interesting to say about this thread or any others.
Quote from: Neil D on December 27, 2015, 04:12:55 PM
This is my 1000th post. In keeping with its 999 predecessors it has nothing useful or interesting to say about this thread or any others.
Quote from: Neil D on December 27, 2015, 03:43:20 PMQuote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on December 27, 2015, 03:31:24 PMSometimes even platitudes would be appreciated. How about:
So what exactly are you expecting the club to say? What could they say to explain what is happening beyond we are talking to potential targets.
'The Club is aware of the frustration and concern currently being experienced by our fans over the delay in securing a new head coach. It was never our intention that it would take this long but we are actively following several avenues and believe that we will be able to make an appointment very soon. In the meantime, we hope the fans will be patient for just a little bit longer as this appointment needs to be one able to take us forward in our bid to return to the Premier League.' Blah blah.
Quote from: Fulham76 on December 27, 2015, 03:42:24 PMQuote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on December 27, 2015, 03:31:24 PMQuote from: Fulham76 on December 27, 2015, 02:37:24 PMQuote from: westcliff white on December 27, 2015, 01:47:46 PMQuote from: Fulham76 on December 27, 2015, 01:18:21 PMI have not been expecting them to tell us who they are going for and how the talks are going, maybe that's just me though. I don't remember other clubs doing it wither but perhaps I missed other teams doing thatQuote from: alexmur on December 27, 2015, 01:12:26 PMQuote from: Slaphead in Qatar on December 27, 2015, 12:35:10 PMit could just mean we are waiting for them to get a replacement, he could also have changed his mind because of the embargo, it could be that if we wait till the new year we might pay less compensation, there is one thing we do know and that's we don't know what's going on.Quote from: Wearethewhites on December 27, 2015, 12:15:22 PM
From a pretty reliable source, Jokanovic is now likely to stay with Maccabi. Unsure of the real reasons, I'm sure they'll come to light after today's game, but that's the current state of play anyway. If true, which I think is the likely outcome now, I'm absolutely appalled and disgusted in Fulham's professionalism over this. 48 days and counting and to leave every Fulhsm fan hanging like this is not acceptable.
When negotiations drag on like this it means there are serious differences - I expect the jok thing to fall through. I fear of who we now end up with.
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The fact we dont know what is going on is pretty disgraceful from the club. Haven't heard a word from them, not even a one line comment on the website to reassure the fans!
The least they could do is make a little comment & acknowledge the fans frustrations, reassure us that they are doing their best to get someone in place, yet we hear nothing at all.
Disgraceful
They aren't going to tell us who they are looking to appoint & im not suggesting they should. But don't you think the fans are entitled to some sort of explanation as to what's happening? I certainly do & so do many more fans.
It is very possible for the club to talk to its fans without giving out specific details. It would have been appreciated if they had acknowledged the delay & reassured the fans that they were trying their hardest to make the right appointment for the club. Instead all we've heard is rumours from the media & 2nd hand information that fans have managed to dig out.
For all we know the board are sitting on their arses enjoying the run up to Christmas & Christmas break. How do we know they are trying? I'm sure they are but I get the impression they're not!
So I don't think you've missed other clubs behaving in a different way when they've been without a manager but what other clubs leave it so long to appoint a new man after dumping the last?
So what exactly are you expecting the club to say? What could they say to explain what is happening beyond we are talking to potential targets?
They haven't even said that much though have they?
Have a look at the other thread about Mike Rigg being out on Christmas Eve, if that's true, that is all most fans would have wanted to hear, rather than sitting on their arse doing nothing. Which I'm sure isn't the case by the way, but how do we know any different???
Quote from: SG on December 27, 2015, 03:44:10 PM
I would like them to say whatever a well run, efficient, competent service based, customer facing organisation would say.
For example -
We recognise that the international break by which we hoped to have appointed somebody is long gone
We recognise that we are now in our 8th week without a manager and that is disappointing for everyone
We can reassure you that we have held discussions with several people but do not feel they are suitable for the role
We recognise that this is unacceptable and disruptive to the players although Stuart is doing his very best on behalf of us all
We can assure you all that we are working night and day, leaving no stone unturned to secure the person we think is best to lead the club back to the Premier League
As soon as that person is secured you will be the first to be know.
That would do for starters. Actually tells us nothing but at least is a communication to the people who actually care the most.
Quote from: Neil D on December 27, 2015, 04:12:55 PM
This is my 1000th post. In keeping with its 999 predecessors it has nothing useful or interesting to say about this thread or any others.
Quote from: westcliff white on December 27, 2015, 04:11:46 PMQuote from: Fulham76 on December 27, 2015, 02:37:24 PMI think football as a the business it is today that just doesn't happen, moreover Rigg isn't going to update us every day or so or every week to let us know whats what otherwise it wouldn't stop at just manager appointments. So for me as much as I would like to know I don't fell the club have to tell me anything as that's just how clubs are run today.Quote from: westcliff white on December 27, 2015, 01:47:46 PMQuote from: Fulham76 on December 27, 2015, 01:18:21 PMI have not been expecting them to tell us who they are going for and how the talks are going, maybe that's just me though. I don't remember other clubs doing it wither but perhaps I missed other teams doing thatQuote from: alexmur on December 27, 2015, 01:12:26 PMQuote from: Slaphead in Qatar on December 27, 2015, 12:35:10 PMit could just mean we are waiting for them to get a replacement, he could also have changed his mind because of the embargo, it could be that if we wait till the new year we might pay less compensation, there is one thing we do know and that's we don't know what's going on.Quote from: Wearethewhites on December 27, 2015, 12:15:22 PM
From a pretty reliable source, Jokanovic is now likely to stay with Maccabi. Unsure of the real reasons, I'm sure they'll come to light after today's game, but that's the current state of play anyway. If true, which I think is the likely outcome now, I'm absolutely appalled and disgusted in Fulham's professionalism over this. 48 days and counting and to leave every Fulhsm fan hanging like this is not acceptable.
When negotiations drag on like this it means there are serious differences - I expect the jok thing to fall through. I fear of who we now end up with.
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The fact we dont know what is going on is pretty disgraceful from the club. Haven't heard a word from them, not even a one line comment on the website to reassure the fans!
The least they could do is make a little comment & acknowledge the fans frustrations, reassure us that they are doing their best to get someone in place, yet we hear nothing at all.
Disgraceful
They aren't going to tell us who they are looking to appoint & im not suggesting they should. But don't you think the fans are entitled to some sort of explanation as to what's happening? I certainly do & so do many more fans.
It is very possible for the club to talk to its fans without giving out specific details. It would have been appreciated if they had acknowledged the delay & reassured the fans that they were trying their hardest to make the right appointment for the club. Instead all we've heard is rumours from the media & 2nd hand information that fans have managed to dig out.
For all we know the board are sitting on their arses enjoying the run up to Christmas & Christmas break. How do we know they are trying? I'm sure they are but I get the impression they're not!
So I don't think you've missed other clubs behaving in a different way when they've been without a manager but what other clubs leave it so long to appoint a new man after dumping the last?
Not saying they are run right just saying as I think it is today
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on December 27, 2015, 05:09:07 PMQuote from: westcliff white on December 27, 2015, 04:11:46 PMQuote from: Fulham76 on December 27, 2015, 02:37:24 PMI think football as a the business it is today that just doesn't happen, moreover Rigg isn't going to update us every day or so or every week to let us know whats what otherwise it wouldn't stop at just manager appointments. So for me as much as I would like to know I don't fell the club have to tell me anything as that's just how clubs are run today.Quote from: westcliff white on December 27, 2015, 01:47:46 PMQuote from: Fulham76 on December 27, 2015, 01:18:21 PMI have not been expecting them to tell us who they are going for and how the talks are going, maybe that's just me though. I don't remember other clubs doing it wither but perhaps I missed other teams doing thatQuote from: alexmur on December 27, 2015, 01:12:26 PMQuote from: Slaphead in Qatar on December 27, 2015, 12:35:10 PMit could just mean we are waiting for them to get a replacement, he could also have changed his mind because of the embargo, it could be that if we wait till the new year we might pay less compensation, there is one thing we do know and that's we don't know what's going on.Quote from: Wearethewhites on December 27, 2015, 12:15:22 PM
From a pretty reliable source, Jokanovic is now likely to stay with Maccabi. Unsure of the real reasons, I'm sure they'll come to light after today's game, but that's the current state of play anyway. If true, which I think is the likely outcome now, I'm absolutely appalled and disgusted in Fulham's professionalism over this. 48 days and counting and to leave every Fulhsm fan hanging like this is not acceptable.
When negotiations drag on like this it means there are serious differences - I expect the jok thing to fall through. I fear of who we now end up with.
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The fact we dont know what is going on is pretty disgraceful from the club. Haven't heard a word from them, not even a one line comment on the website to reassure the fans!
The least they could do is make a little comment & acknowledge the fans frustrations, reassure us that they are doing their best to get someone in place, yet we hear nothing at all.
Disgraceful
They aren't going to tell us who they are looking to appoint & im not suggesting they should. But don't you think the fans are entitled to some sort of explanation as to what's happening? I certainly do & so do many more fans.
It is very possible for the club to talk to its fans without giving out specific details. It would have been appreciated if they had acknowledged the delay & reassured the fans that they were trying their hardest to make the right appointment for the club. Instead all we've heard is rumours from the media & 2nd hand information that fans have managed to dig out.
For all we know the board are sitting on their arses enjoying the run up to Christmas & Christmas break. How do we know they are trying? I'm sure they are but I get the impression they're not!
So I don't think you've missed other clubs behaving in a different way when they've been without a manager but what other clubs leave it so long to appoint a new man after dumping the last?
Not saying they are run right just saying as I think it is today
It is not just football clubs or today. When in the past have the club said anything between announcing that they were looking for a new manager and the appointment (and, yes, I know this gap is a little longer than usual)? They are not going to announce who we have spoken to and why those talks failed. The search simply goes on until a deal is signed.
Quote from: Lighthouse on December 27, 2015, 05:08:12 PM
The big question is whoever is eventually our manager. Will he last longer than it took to employ him?
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on December 27, 2015, 04:55:38 PMQuote from: Fulham76 on December 27, 2015, 03:42:24 PMQuote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on December 27, 2015, 03:31:24 PMQuote from: Fulham76 on December 27, 2015, 02:37:24 PMQuote from: westcliff white on December 27, 2015, 01:47:46 PMQuote from: Fulham76 on December 27, 2015, 01:18:21 PMI have not been expecting them to tell us who they are going for and how the talks are going, maybe that's just me though. I don't remember other clubs doing it wither but perhaps I missed other teams doing thatQuote from: alexmur on December 27, 2015, 01:12:26 PMQuote from: Slaphead in Qatar on December 27, 2015, 12:35:10 PMit could just mean we are waiting for them to get a replacement, he could also have changed his mind because of the embargo, it could be that if we wait till the new year we might pay less compensation, there is one thing we do know and that's we don't know what's going on.Quote from: Wearethewhites on December 27, 2015, 12:15:22 PM
From a pretty reliable source, Jokanovic is now likely to stay with Maccabi. Unsure of the real reasons, I'm sure they'll come to light after today's game, but that's the current state of play anyway. If true, which I think is the likely outcome now, I'm absolutely appalled and disgusted in Fulham's professionalism over this. 48 days and counting and to leave every Fulhsm fan hanging like this is not acceptable.
When negotiations drag on like this it means there are serious differences - I expect the jok thing to fall through. I fear of who we now end up with.
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The fact we dont know what is going on is pretty disgraceful from the club. Haven't heard a word from them, not even a one line comment on the website to reassure the fans!
The least they could do is make a little comment & acknowledge the fans frustrations, reassure us that they are doing their best to get someone in place, yet we hear nothing at all.
Disgraceful
They aren't going to tell us who they are looking to appoint & im not suggesting they should. But don't you think the fans are entitled to some sort of explanation as to what's happening? I certainly do & so do many more fans.
It is very possible for the club to talk to its fans without giving out specific details. It would have been appreciated if they had acknowledged the delay & reassured the fans that they were trying their hardest to make the right appointment for the club. Instead all we've heard is rumours from the media & 2nd hand information that fans have managed to dig out.
For all we know the board are sitting on their arses enjoying the run up to Christmas & Christmas break. How do we know they are trying? I'm sure they are but I get the impression they're not!
So I don't think you've missed other clubs behaving in a different way when they've been without a manager but what other clubs leave it so long to appoint a new man after dumping the last?
So what exactly are you expecting the club to say? What could they say to explain what is happening beyond we are talking to potential targets?
They haven't even said that much though have they?
Have a look at the other thread about Mike Rigg being out on Christmas Eve, if that's true, that is all most fans would have wanted to hear, rather than sitting on their arse doing nothing. Which I'm sure isn't the case by the way, but how do we know any different???
They said we are searching for a Head Coach. Are you saying that you need to be reassured that is still the case and that they haven't just stopped for a long Christmas holiday?
Apart from the revelation about FFP what did Rigg say that wasn't obvious?
Quote from: LBNo11 on December 27, 2015, 03:01:39 PM
...I don't disagree RL63, but we are all living indesperationhope. Not even convinced he will be with us long enough to do any good, but we need any coach/manager to bring some stability, and whoever we get we'll have to back...
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on December 27, 2015, 04:50:01 PMQuote from: Neil D on December 27, 2015, 03:43:20 PMQuote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on December 27, 2015, 03:31:24 PMSometimes even platitudes would be appreciated. How about:
So what exactly are you expecting the club to say? What could they say to explain what is happening beyond we are talking to potential targets.
'The Club is aware of the frustration and concern currently being experienced by our fans over the delay in securing a new head coach. It was never our intention that it would take this long but we are actively following several avenues and believe that we will be able to make an appointment very soon. In the meantime, we hope the fans will be patient for just a little bit longer as this appointment needs to be one able to take us forward in our bid to return to the Premier League.' Blah blah.
So you would be content with platitudes?
That hardly seems to justify the fuss.
I think we would assume the above and, as such, do not feel the need for this touchy-feelly stuff or anything until we get "Fulham FC is pleased to announce . . .".
Quote from: westcliff white on December 27, 2015, 05:33:36 PM
Its a business, I don't think any business that any of us work for tell us when they are looking for a new CEO and who they are interviewing or how long it will take.
That's just the way it is, not looking for an argument just saying they don't have to tell us anything
Quote from: Lighthouse on December 27, 2015, 05:58:52 PM
Latest communication from the club -
We have received many requests asking us to keep the fans up to date about what is happening at the moment. We are only too happy to oblige.
We have no idea what we are doing.
Thanks.
Quote from: Lighthouse on December 27, 2015, 05:58:52 PMHow true 051
Latest communication from the club -
We have received many requests asking us to keep the fans up to date about what is happening at the moment. We are only too happy to oblige.
We have no idea what we are doing.
Thanks.
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on December 27, 2015, 07:15:23 PM
Raphael Gellar @Raphael_Gellar 5m5 minutes ago
The http://the72.co.uk/ (http://the72.co.uk/) story about Slavisa Jokanovic is old and is just linking the Sun Report which was wrong at that time.
Quote from: Riether Lightning 63 on December 27, 2015, 09:22:07 PMJudging Fulham's track record you will be able to start a new one in six months!
It's been a fun ride, I want to thankyou all for being a part of this record breaking run
