The Official Next Manager Discussion Thread

[westcliff white]

Mc Donald Never had an coaching badges yet he was a success here. There is too much emphasis on badges but it is heart that wins promotion. I would give him a try there is nothing to lose

That's very true, however times have changed and you need a pro licence these days to get anywhere near managing in a top division these days. We for me do need an experienced coach and that rules Danny out for me. As I have said before if he was serious about coaching why has he not done so other pundits successfully combine the both

[Asotosyios]

To be fair, Hantz is a very good manager and a bit of a promotion specialist, he left Bastia in the top half of ligue 1 after taking over in the national D3, this is a remarkable achievement. He turned Bastia from an obscure team in the french lower divisions to a team competing for european football, in a very small amount of time, he'd be a great appointment!

Instead of hoping for a Danny Murphy miracle, I would like us to have a go at someone like Hantz. He is still 4/1 with Betfair and was interviewed last year for the Brighton position, before they chose Hyypia. I am sure we can afford an air ticket to invite him for an interview.

[JDH101]

Love Danny but he has no coaching experience and has been out the game for 2 seasons or more now, all he has done is punditry.

We cannot afford to take a punt in my opinion

Why can we not afford to take a punt? Just what have we got that we might lose this season? If anything, I would say we CAN afford to take a punt this season. We have absolutely nothing to lose.

If, as you state, we have nothing to lose this season, why not bring somebody in who can build for the next season?

Danny Murphy has not done a single days' coaching, not at academy level, nothing.

We got rid of Kit Symons, somebody deemed not good enough despite coaching for about 7 years. Why would we then make a gamble on somebody with seemingly no interest to work?

If you have no interest to prove yourself and work on the training pitch, there is no room in the game for you. Least so here.

I don't understand your line of thinking. What do you mean "get someone who can build for next season"? Why wouldn't you want to offer Murphy the role in the same way Neville just accepted the Valencia job - i.e. - you have the rest of the season to prove you deserve the job long term. What on earth do we have to lose? And also, whoever comes in is not the one building for the future. Its been made crystal clear that we are looking for a head coach to manage and train the players brought in by the club. It is the club, via Rigg that is building for the future, not the next man in.

We are a mid-sized team in the middle of the table of the Championship, struggling to make FFP and have a potential transfer embargo hanging over us. Just who on earth do you think we are going to get? Have you seen who has rejected us over the last few weeks? If we could get someone like Murphy in, then give him the job and put an end to this madness.

DIdnt we do exactly that with \kit? give him the job for a while and then let him prove himself? turned out wel that.

The club and the new manager need to build and plan for the future to improve us and take us up the table and hopefully back to the prem. However the FFP thing is an issue, if we have failed the rules then that will impact on who we get as well, the fees we pay for managers and to pay them off count towards our FFP status. Personally I cannot see ho the football league can impose it after QPR clearly run roughshod over them (Penalties of which are yet to be announced as well), As FPT said Murphy has not done a day of caching at senior level which is slightly different to Gary Neville, so it would be, for me anyway, more than a massive punt, should also be noted by Murphy's own admission he has ticked off the powers that be at FUlham, maybe because he keeps leaking things on talksport, which what he says is knowledge from inside,

Loved the guy as a player but as a coach I am not convinced, personally Kit would be a more favourable choice

To compare Kit and Danny is to compare apples to oranges. Look up what Danny has achieved in the game and then do the same with Kit. Let me tell you, one is a much longer read than the other.

[westcliff white]

Love Danny but he has no coaching experience and has been out the game for 2 seasons or more now, all he has done is punditry.

We cannot afford to take a punt in my opinion

Why can we not afford to take a punt? Just what have we got that we might lose this season? If anything, I would say we CAN afford to take a punt this season. We have absolutely nothing to lose.

If, as you state, we have nothing to lose this season, why not bring somebody in who can build for the next season?

Danny Murphy has not done a single days' coaching, not at academy level, nothing.

We got rid of Kit Symons, somebody deemed not good enough despite coaching for about 7 years. Why would we then make a gamble on somebody with seemingly no interest to work?

If you have no interest to prove yourself and work on the training pitch, there is no room in the game for you. Least so here.

I don't understand your line of thinking. What do you mean "get someone who can build for next season"? Why wouldn't you want to offer Murphy the role in the same way Neville just accepted the Valencia job - i.e. - you have the rest of the season to prove you deserve the job long term. What on earth do we have to lose? And also, whoever comes in is not the one building for the future. Its been made crystal clear that we are looking for a head coach to manage and train the players brought in by the club. It is the club, via Rigg that is building for the future, not the next man in.

We are a mid-sized team in the middle of the table of the Championship, struggling to make FFP and have a potential transfer embargo hanging over us. Just who on earth do you think we are going to get? Have you seen who has rejected us over the last few weeks? If we could get someone like Murphy in, then give him the job and put an end to this madness.

DIdnt we do exactly that with \kit? give him the job for a while and then let him prove himself? turned out wel that.

The club and the new manager need to build and plan for the future to improve us and take us up the table and hopefully back to the prem. However the FFP thing is an issue, if we have failed the rules then that will impact on who we get as well, the fees we pay for managers and to pay them off count towards our FFP status. Personally I cannot see ho the football league can impose it after QPR clearly run roughshod over them (Penalties of which are yet to be announced as well), As FPT said Murphy has not done a day of caching at senior level which is slightly different to Gary Neville, so it would be, for me anyway, more than a massive punt, should also be noted by Murphy's own admission he has ticked off the powers that be at FUlham, maybe because he keeps leaking things on talksport, which what he says is knowledge from inside,

Loved the guy as a player but as a coach I am not convinced, personally Kit would be a more favourable choice

To compare Kit and Danny is to compare apples to oranges. Look up what Danny has achieved in the game and then do the same with Kit. Let me tell you, one is a much longer read than the other.

Achievements in playing doesn't necessarily make you a good coach or manager, look at Bobby Charlton, Bobby Moore, Tony Adams, the list goes on, look at those with poor careers like Alex Ferguson, Roy Hodgson, Arsene Wenger and again I would say the list goes on.

Its going to be difficult to get the right man, but as I have said before not everyone will be pleased

[Rhys Lightning 63]

According to Sky (just announced ahead of Reading v QPR), he is set to be announced tomorrow.

[Rhys Lightning 63]

If these JFH to QPR rumours (of it being confirmed in the morning), are TRUE. Fulham, have well and truly BLOWN IT

[JDH101]

According to Sky (just announced ahead of Reading v QPR), he is set to be announced tomorrow.

Who is?

[Rhys Lightning 63]

According to Sky (just announced ahead of Reading v QPR), he is set to be announced tomorrow.

Who is?

Jimmy Floyd

[Neil D]

At one point we were scraping the bottom of the barrel.  Those were the gold old days.  Now we don't even have the barrel.  O tempora! O mores!

[mkras99]

Football Insider ‏@footyinsider247  8m8 minutes ago
We're told Stuart Pearce will NOT be the next Fulham manager. Nor is he in the race. Waffle.

Alex Lemeur @AlexLemeur
@footyinsider247 who is? do they even know who they are going after

Football Insider ‏@footyinsider247  4m4 minutes ago
Football Insider Retweeted Alex Lemeur
Yes they do. They are close. Football Insider added,

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[JDH101]

Love Danny but he has no coaching experience and has been out the game for 2 seasons or more now, all he has done is punditry.

We cannot afford to take a punt in my opinion

Why can we not afford to take a punt? Just what have we got that we might lose this season? If anything, I would say we CAN afford to take a punt this season. We have absolutely nothing to lose.

If, as you state, we have nothing to lose this season, why not bring somebody in who can build for the next season?

Danny Murphy has not done a single days' coaching, not at academy level, nothing.

We got rid of Kit Symons, somebody deemed not good enough despite coaching for about 7 years. Why would we then make a gamble on somebody with seemingly no interest to work?

If you have no interest to prove yourself and work on the training pitch, there is no room in the game for you. Least so here.

I don't understand your line of thinking. What do you mean "get someone who can build for next season"? Why wouldn't you want to offer Murphy the role in the same way Neville just accepted the Valencia job - i.e. - you have the rest of the season to prove you deserve the job long term. What on earth do we have to lose? And also, whoever comes in is not the one building for the future. Its been made crystal clear that we are looking for a head coach to manage and train the players brought in by the club. It is the club, via Rigg that is building for the future, not the next man in.

We are a mid-sized team in the middle of the table of the Championship, struggling to make FFP and have a potential transfer embargo hanging over us. Just who on earth do you think we are going to get? Have you seen who has rejected us over the last few weeks? If we could get someone like Murphy in, then give him the job and put an end to this madness.

DIdnt we do exactly that with \kit? give him the job for a while and then let him prove himself? turned out wel that.

The club and the new manager need to build and plan for the future to improve us and take us up the table and hopefully back to the prem. However the FFP thing is an issue, if we have failed the rules then that will impact on who we get as well, the fees we pay for managers and to pay them off count towards our FFP status. Personally I cannot see ho the football league can impose it after QPR clearly run roughshod over them (Penalties of which are yet to be announced as well), As FPT said Murphy has not done a day of caching at senior level which is slightly different to Gary Neville, so it would be, for me anyway, more than a massive punt, should also be noted by Murphy's own admission he has ticked off the powers that be at FUlham, maybe because he keeps leaking things on talksport, which what he says is knowledge from inside,

Loved the guy as a player but as a coach I am not convinced, personally Kit would be a more favourable choice

To compare Kit and Danny is to compare apples to oranges. Look up what Danny has achieved in the game and then do the same with Kit. Let me tell you, one is a much longer read than the other.

Achievements in playing doesn't necessarily make you a good coach or manager, look at Bobby Charlton, Bobby Moore, Tony Adams, the list goes on, look at those with poor careers like Alex Ferguson, Roy Hodgson, Arsene Wenger and again I would say the list goes on.

Its going to be difficult to get the right man, but as I have said before not everyone will be pleased

I know it doesn't. But the comment was "Well look, we appointed Kit with no experience, look how that turned out".

All I am saying is Danny is a very different person to Kit. Achieved far more in the game. A natural born leader.

When I listen to Danny talk in the media i am usually impressed. When I listen to Kit I feel like i'm listening to mate stood at the bar.

[westcliff white]

I get your point JDH, for me when I hear Danny he is the same as Shearer, and for me that's not very good. But that's what I like about football and forums everyone has opinions and I respect that.

[Ordar]

I really hope it isn't Stuart Gray. That would be incredibly underwhelming....

[JDH101]

I get your point JDH, for me when I hear Danny he is the same as Shearer, and for me that's not very good. But that's what I like about football and forums everyone has opinions and I respect that.

We must hear very different things then. My thoughts on the various ex-player pundits:

Neville - Fantastic.
Henry - Appalling.
Shearer - predictable (similar to how I view Kit)
Keown - Awkward but has some interesting things to say.
Carragher - Solid.
Murphy - Knowledgeable
Ian Wright Wright Wright - Getting better all the time but had a very shaky start.

Not sure why I typed that, but there you go!

[FulhamStu]

Surely if it were Stuart Gray, it would not be  close, or taking a long time.  Surely he would jump at it and it would be a very easy appointment.  I have not seen any real evidence that we have offered anyone anything so far, even the Clarke story is full of holes.   If it does turn out to be Gray or someone of that stature it would really look bad on Rigg.   I don't think Rigg wants to look like an idiot.

[westcliff white]

I get your point JDH, for me when I hear Danny he is the same as Shearer, and for me that's not very good. But that's what I like about football and forums everyone has opinions and I respect that.

We must hear very different things then. My thoughts on the various ex-player pundits:

Neville - Fantastic.
Henry - Appalling.
Shearer - predictable (similar to how I view Kit)
Keown - Awkward but has some interesting things to say.
Carragher - Solid.
Murphy - Knowledgeable
Ian Wright Wright Wright - Getting better all the time but had a very shaky start.

Not sure why I typed that, but there you go!

For me it is as below, I habve not included co commentators.

Neville - Fantastic.
Henry - Appalling.
Shearer - Terrible
Keown - I find him boring
Carragher - only thing I like about him was his bickering at times with Neville, find his knowledge to be somewhat obvious
Murphy - Terrible
Ian Wright Wright Wright - As you say getting better, form a rotten start.
Quinn - worse than anyone I have ever seen

[NDorsetwhite]

Could somebody please explain to me why Fulham may be in danger of being sanctioned under the FFP rules. I don't remember any major splashing of the cash in recent transfer windows, although it's difficult to know as Fulham never reveal all the financial details of transfers. The general consensus about the last window seemed to be that the money spent was roughly equal to the fees received for those let go/transferred, in particular Roberts. Indeed quite a few fans grumbled that we should have been spending more. I haven't seen anything in the press about Fulham having broken the rules but it keeps being mentioned as a possibility.

[Rhys Lightning 63]

Surely if it were Stuart Gray, it would not be  close, or taking a long time.  Surely he would jump at it and it would be a very easy appointment.  I have not seen any real evidence that we have offered anyone anything so far, even the Clarke story is full of holes.   If it does turn out to be Gray or someone of that stature it would really look bad on Rigg.  I don't think Rigg wants to look like an idiot.

I think we're beyond that stage

[Fulham76]

Just had a horrible feeling.... That twitching idiot redknapp is still available isn't he? Was he at laugh-a-minute road at the same time as Rigg???
They wouldn't do that to us would they?