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Am I being pernickety?

Started by Peabody, January 13, 2016, 06:42:02 PM

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YankeeJim

Quote from: Barrett487 on January 13, 2016, 09:40:11 PM
Quote from: nose on January 13, 2016, 08:49:32 PM
i love a good pedant type debate so here is my outlook.

this is an english MB commenting on an english game featuring the world's greatest football (not soccer) club called fulham. it would seem entirely reasonable and polite that the venacular used as common paralnce here was actually english, not the US variant. I am not sure why the american's have to change the language for this at all, it was totally unnecesary because football has its own international vernacular.

I wouldn't go to a baseball game and call the bat a stick of the absurd headwear a hat or call the field a pitch. so why change the currency of the game from proper english to a less good alternative.

That is my opinion but i woudn't fall out over it, but i do feel it strange the american's can't cope with the real words spelt properly.

As previously mentioned the z instead of an s irrites me.... adopt our language and then desicrate it why don't you? And (apologies for starting a sentence with and) unfortunately, 'americanisms are creeping in to our daily language'.


As long as we are all venting out pet language peeves: one of mine is the failure to capitalize Americanisms and the like. That, and calling a cerveza and ale and the baño a loo.......ah.....never mind.
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Tonywa

Quote from: Peabody on January 13, 2016, 06:42:02 PM
I am certainly not being anti American but this being an English board that welcomes all, it does concern me when English contributors spell centre as center and use terms like off season instead of close season or offense instead of offence. I know, I know, it is only words but we will be calling Maurice Maureece or Bernard Bernaard next. Just having a moan, I'll be happier when we get our next win.

Given much of the spelling and grammar on this board, a couple of Americanisms don't worry me unduly.  At least it is recognisable as English, albeit the American variety.

MJG

Quote from: Blanco on January 13, 2016, 09:02:22 PM
I don´t think it matters. We all talk the way we have learnt throughout our life. That depends on where we live and how we learnt the language. I don´t think it matters how things are spelt or said. Especially these days with the internet and all different sports expanding all over the world and sporting terms being mixed and matched.
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Jamie88

Whilst the subject has been brought up, I have to admit when I read the word 'roster' instead of squad it makes my blood boil! Silly but there we go :D

Tonywa

Quote from: Jamie88 on January 13, 2016, 10:12:16 PM
Whilst the subject has been brought up, I have to admit when I read the word 'roster' instead of squad it makes my blood boil! Silly but there we go :D

I don't find that as annoying as the ubiquitous 'should of' (and all its variations) which is actually meaningless. 

Barrett487

Quote from: YankeeJim on January 13, 2016, 10:09:14 PM
Quote from: Barrett487 on January 13, 2016, 09:40:11 PM
Quote from: nose on January 13, 2016, 08:49:32 PM
i love a good pedant type debate so here is my outlook.

this is an english MB commenting on an english game featuring the world's greatest football (not soccer) club called fulham. it would seem entirely reasonable and polite that the venacular used as common paralnce here was actually english, not the US variant. I am not sure why the american's have to change the language for this at all, it was totally unnecesary because football has its own international vernacular.

I wouldn't go to a baseball game and call the bat a stick of the absurd headwear a hat or call the field a pitch. so why change the currency of the game from proper english to a less good alternative.

That is my opinion but i woudn't fall out over it, but i do feel it strange the american's can't cope with the real words spelt properly.

As previously mentioned the z instead of an s irrites me.... adopt our language and then desicrate it why don't you? And (apologies for starting a sentence with and) unfortunately, 'americanisms are creeping in to our daily language'.


As long as we are all venting out pet language peeves: one of mine is the failure to capitalize Americanisms and the like. That, and calling a cerveza and ale and the baño a loo.......ah.....never mind.
Yes but missing the capital off American was an error, what's you excuse for zedding everything? You aren't answerable for the mutation of the English language and should feel no guilt, because you are educated to believe that you are correct. I, however will fall on my sword because of a capital.

Btw... didn't follow your second sentence at all..... is it me, lol


Lighthouse

As Fulham fans we should be proud that fans from overseas are fans and able to communicate their opinion. If they do not use the correct words or use the correct punctuation or stand on one leg whistling Dixie. We really must learn not to be bothered. The World is a smaller place and we need to be able to stop looking down because some of us don't write proper or use different colloquialisms.

The above IS NOT A LEGAL DOCUMENT. It is an opinion.

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Peabody

There, that was fun wasn't it? A it of non Fulham related stuff to take our minds of the next game.

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HatterDon

Quote from: Peabody on January 13, 2016, 11:12:51 PM
There, that was fun wasn't it? A it of non Fulham related stuff to take our minds of the next game.

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Neil D

Quote from: Tonywa on January 13, 2016, 10:28:26 PM

I don't find that as annoying as the ubiquitous 'should of' (and all its variations) which is actually meaningless. 
That's just poor grammar / spelling.  Not even Americans condone that particular error.

Peabody

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Chutney

This is an internet forum, accessible world wide, not everyone using it should have to conform to what we consider to be proper English.
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dgnffc

I once had a discussion with an American over their tendency to invent verbs by adding 'ize' to nouns. This came about as they insisted that a burglar 'burglarizes' whereas I tried to explain that it's because he burgles, but they would have none of it and thought burgles was a very 'funny' word. I tried to explain that using their logic someone who 'burglarizes' would surely be called a 'burglarizer' - ad infinitum, but that went way over their head!

There are other examples of this insidious trend that seem to be creeping into our language, particularly in 'business speak'

Peabody

Sorry, this was meant to be a bit of harmless banter. Whatever happened to humour? However, as per usual, I seem to have upset a few by daring to lighten the mood. I shall just go into a corner and sing happy birthday myself.


Berserker

I don't think that picking holes in other people is particularly funny but that's just my opinion ( That's a personal opinion by the way and I have not got my Mod hat on with this comment)

Bur everybody's entitled to their opinion and I just we hope winning soon
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RaySmith

Peabody's point was not about everyone having to speak 'correct English, or about Americans using the spelling native to America, but about British people abandoning traditional spelling of English where it's distinctive to this country, and thus our spelling will die out.

If people aren't bothered about this - fair enough, but I think it's a shame, though that's a completely matter to posters using the 'wrong' spelling and grammar here-which I don't people should be criticised for at all, and I don't think Peabody thinks that either.


Peabody

Couldn't put it better myself Ray.

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