The 2016 Official Silly Summer Season Transfer Thread

[f321ffc]

Woolly the same was said of Madl as well he has turned out to be decent, but I agree with the sentiment that centre backs are usually taller and around the 6'3" height

The jury's still out on Madl IMO. We only saw him for six months, during which he was playing with the clear aim of making permanent a short-term move. Let's see if he sustains that next season, without the special incentive.

In any case, whilst his composure, reading of the game, concentration, marking, timing of tackles etc. are all there, at the end of the day we still don't look any better defending set pieces with him in the team.

I think short centre-backs are like slow strikers. It's not ideal but you can perhaps get away with one of them in the team (eg Ross up front) if they've other qualities. But then it's absolutely vital their partner doesn't share the same inadequacy.

I wouldn't say the jury is out on Madl with vast majority of fans. Almost to a man most seem happy with him joining on a permanent contract. I'd be ok with him and getting rid of pretty much every other one of the main defenders who played last season and starting again.

:plus one:

[Fulham Tup North]

You also have to consider how high he can jump and then add that to his height, may be he is a high jumper.
They should send him to the Olympics then!!  096.gig

[MJG]

Woolly the same was said of Madl as well he has turned out to be decent, but I agree with the sentiment that centre backs are usually taller and around the 6'3" height

The jury's still out on Madl IMO. We only saw him for six months, during which he was playing with the clear aim of making permanent a short-term move. Let's see if he sustains that next season, without the special incentive.

In any case, whilst his composure, reading of the game, concentration, marking, timing of tackles etc. are all there, at the end of the day we still don't look any better defending set pieces with him in the team.

I think short centre-backs are like slow strikers. It's not ideal but you can perhaps get away with one of them in the team (eg Ross up front) if they've other qualities. But then it's absolutely vital their partner doesn't share the same inadequacy.

I wouldn't say the jury is out on Madl with vast majority of fans. Almost to a man most seem happy with him joining on a permanent contract. I'd be ok with him and getting rid of pretty much every other one of the main defenders who played last season and starting again.

ok sorry, poor choice of words, i was giving my opinion on the situation, not seeking to reflect popular opinion.

i don't much value popular opinion anymore, not since it got symons appointed last year

Just call you Henry Fonda from now on then?

[Apprentice to the Maestro]

Woolly the same was said of Madl as well he has turned out to be decent, but I agree with the sentiment that centre backs are usually taller and around the 6'3" height

The jury's still out on Madl IMO. We only saw him for six months, during which he was playing with the clear aim of making permanent a short-term move. Let's see if he sustains that next season, without the special incentive.

In any case, whilst his composure, reading of the game, concentration, marking, timing of tackles etc. are all there, at the end of the day we still don't look any better defending set pieces with him in the team.

I think short centre-backs are like slow strikers. It's not ideal but you can perhaps get away with one of them in the team (eg Ross up front) if they've other qualities. But then it's absolutely vital their partner doesn't share the same inadequacy.

I wouldn't say the jury is out on Madl with vast majority of fans. Almost to a man most seem happy with him joining on a permanent contract. I'd be ok with him and getting rid of pretty much every other one of the main defenders who played last season and starting again.

ok sorry, poor choice of words, i was giving my opinion on the situation, not seeking to reflect popular opinion.

i don't much value popular opinion anymore, not since it got symons appointed last year

What got Symons appointed was that he significantly turned the team around in his caretaker role and there were no realistic or strong candidates around as alternatives. Unfortunately that caretaker period turned out to be unrepresentative.

[Twig]

Woolly the same was said of Madl as well he has turned out to be decent, but I agree with the sentiment that centre backs are usually taller and around the 6'3" height

The jury's still out on Madl IMO. We only saw him for six months, during which he was playing with the clear aim of making permanent a short-term move. Let's see if he sustains that next season, without the special incentive.

In any case, whilst his composure, reading of the game, concentration, marking, timing of tackles etc. are all there, at the end of the day we still don't look any better defending set pieces with him in the team.

I think short centre-backs are like slow strikers. It's not ideal but you can perhaps get away with one of them in the team (eg Ross up front) if they've other qualities. But then it's absolutely vital their partner doesn't share the same inadequacy.

I wouldn't say the jury is out on Madl with vast majority of fans. Almost to a man most seem happy with him joining on a permanent contract. I'd be ok with him and getting rid of pretty much every other one of the main defenders who played last season and starting again.

ok sorry, poor choice of words, i was giving my opinion on the situation, not seeking to reflect popular opinion.

i don't much value popular opinion anymore, not since it got symons appointed last year

How do you know that "popular opinion" had any impact on Kit's appointment?

[BedsFFC]

Woolly the same was said of Madl as well he has turned out to be decent, but I agree with the sentiment that centre backs are usually taller and around the 6'3" height

The jury's still out on Madl IMO. We only saw him for six months, during which he was playing with the clear aim of making permanent a short-term move. Let's see if he sustains that next season, without the special incentive.

In any case, whilst his composure, reading of the game, concentration, marking, timing of tackles etc. are all there, at the end of the day we still don't look any better defending set pieces with him in the team.

I think short centre-backs are like slow strikers. It's not ideal but you can perhaps get away with one of them in the team (eg Ross up front) if they've other qualities. But then it's absolutely vital their partner doesn't share the same inadequacy.

I wouldn't say the jury is out on Madl with vast majority of fans. Almost to a man most seem happy with him joining on a permanent contract. I'd be ok with him and getting rid of pretty much every other one of the main defenders who played last season and starting again.

ok sorry, poor choice of words, i was giving my opinion on the situation, not seeking to reflect popular opinion.

i don't much value popular opinion anymore, not since it got symons appointed last year

How do you know that "popular opinion" had any impact on Kit's appointment?

I really wish you hadn't asked that on a transfer thread. Not a dig but if you see this thread has a new page, if you're as sad as me, you think there may be some action. To then read about Kit Symons (bless him) would be a massive anti-climax. To put it mildly.

[cmg]

If they're good enough, they're tall enough.

Sanatamaria  5'10
Costacurta  5'11
Desailly   6'0
Cannavaro  5'10
Gamarra  5' 11
Puyol  5'10
Ramos 6'0

any of those would do for me.

The more sophisticated central defenders (liberos or sweepers) tend to come in even smaller packages,

Moore, McGrath, Silva all 6'0.  The greatest of all Koeman, Baresi, Scirea all shorter.

[ChesterTheTabby]

Unfortunately the player is about 4 inches too short for the kind of player Fulham may need to recruit I would have thought.

A player can be a maestro with his feet, and read the game intelligently, however, if he lacks the physical height of his opposition then one fairly placed cross, corner, or free kick become deadly. We have given up so many set piece goals from piss poor defending - to add a lack of height to the back and make it any easier would be crazy.

[cmg]

If they're good enough, they're tall enough.

Sanatamaria  5'10
Costacurta  5'11
Desailly   6'0
Cannavaro  5'10
Gamarra  5' 11
Puyol  5'10
Ramos 6'0

any of those would do for me.

The more sophisticated central defenders (liberos or sweepers) tend to come in even smaller packages,

Moore, McGrath, Silva all 6'0.  The greatest of all Koeman, Baresi, Scirea all shorter.

now stick two of them together and see how they are at defending lofted set pieces in the second tier of english football

I'm not actually seriously suggesting that we should get hold of any of these guys. All a bit past it now - except Ramos and we know he wouldn't do because he's a 'red card waiting to happen'.
Although as for the second tier of English football, I think they'd probably cope - even now!

[Porthogs FC]

I like the conversation, just that I get so disappointed when there's no transfer news for three pages straight! Or any rumors...

[westcliff white]

I like the conversation, just that I get so disappointed when there's no transfer news for three pages straight! Or any rumors...

For me I quite like that, it means to me no one knows who we are after and thus the price is unlikely to be driven up.

It could also mean we are not looking for anyone or the targets are not worth reporting, but in my mind I doubt those two reasons are a probability. I am a positive minded guy after all

[Huxley]

it doesn't matter how tall a player is as long as they are there abouts.What matters is being able to read the flight of the ball (intelligence), position yourself in the right spot (strength, intelligence) and being able to jump (height plus explosive power).  bet you those short guys mentioned above could jump and reach a similar height as the the two inches Dan Burn could jump.

[Holders]

I like the conversation, just that I get so disappointed when there's no transfer news for three pages straight! Or any rumors...

For me I quite like that, it means to me no one knows who we are after and thus the price is unlikely to be driven up.

It could also mean we are not looking for anyone or the targets are not worth reporting, but in my mind I doubt those two reasons are a probability. I am a positive minded guy after all

That's the way we seem to do business, most acquisitions seem to come from the blind side.

[twang]

Nothing concrete but I've heard some rumours here in Sweden that a few Championship clubs, one of them Fulham, along with Malmö FF and my local side IFK Norrköping are interested in signing the top scorer of Allsvenskan so far: Kalmar FF:s Marcus Antonsson, 25.

He's been on fire the last 1,5 years, scoring for fun and single-handedly carrying his club.

[westcliff white]

Nothing concrete but I've heard some rumours here in Sweden that a few Championship clubs, one of them Fulham, along with Malmö FF and my local side IFK Norrköping are interested in signing the top scorer of Allsvenskan so far: Kalmar FF:s Marcus Antonsson, 25.

He's been on fire the last 1,5 years, scoring for fun and single-handedly carrying his club.

looking at his stats he has 23 goals in his last 100 games (12 in 29 last season? not sure when the Swedish season runs compared to ours), not saying he isn't a decent player at all, but thinking we need to replace possibly 45 plus goals from Ross and Moussa so may need 3 players of his standard.

[twang]

Nothing concrete but I've heard some rumours here in Sweden that a few Championship clubs, one of them Fulham, along with Malmö FF and my local side IFK Norrköping are interested in signing the top scorer of Allsvenskan so far: Kalmar FF:s Marcus Antonsson, 25.

He's been on fire the last 1,5 years, scoring for fun and single-handedly carrying his club.

looking at his stats he has 23 goals in his last 100 games (12 in 29 last season? not sure when the Swedish season runs compared to ours), not saying he isn't a decent player at all, but thinking we need to replace possibly 45 plus goals from Ross and Moussa so may need 3 players of his standard.

The thing is though that Marcus went from being an average player in relegated Halmstad to totally exploding in a struggling Kalmar side.  So we're essentially talking about two different players in those 100 matches: The average player in Halmstad, and the free scoring player in Kalmar.

His stats the last year and a half (since he joined Kalmar): 47 matches, 25 goals.

[colinwhite]

Allsvenskan is nowhere near the championship in quality ,thats the problem .

[alexmur]

Adam rooney would not be a bad shout

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[EJL]

Adam rooney would not be a bad shout

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Has been poor at League 1 and Championship clubs in the past.

[zander]

HULL RELEASE ALUKO, TAYLOR

Sone Aluko and Ryan Taylor have been released by Hull City following the expiry of their contracts.

Eldin Jakupovic is set to remain at the KC Stadium with the club exercising its option to offer the goalkeeper a further one-year deal. Tom Huddlestone and Ahmed Elmohamady have also been offered new contracts with their current deals due to expire.


I remember there being some rumours about us being interested in Aluko a few months back.

A pretty good player on his day and fairy pacey but I haven't seen him play much recently.