The 64 Million Dollar question that must be answered .

[Riversider]

When (Not If anymore) Jokanovic departs, there's one thing that needs addressing before Fulham Football Club can move forward and that's this,
Will we be employing a Coach or a Manager ?
If it's a coach that has to work under the same restraints as Jokanovic is working under, then I'd say we are in real trouble,
Look at Villa, Sheff Utd, Cardiff City or even the likes of Arsenal, City, United and Spurs etc etc all of them employing managers , now why is that ?
Let's say (just for arguments sake) that we were to employ the likes of Pardew, Allardyce or Nigel Pearson, they would want total control of the running of the club, from top to bottom, the problem there though is that makes the owners son virtually redundant !
So in reality how likely is that to happen ?
At the start I said "When" Jokanovic goes, not "If" that's because two of his most senior pros have stopped playing for him, Johansen and Kalas were massive players for Jokanovic last season , this season they have appeared uninterested and awful, when your senior pros stop playing for you it's just the start of a slippery slope,
Lots wrong at the Club , especially the way it's currently being run but the coach must shoulder some of the blame.

[Arthur]

Rather than speculate that Johansen and Kalas have suffered a dip in form, it clearly suits your argument - that the end is in sight for Jokanovic - to ignore this possibility.

There is, in my view, a far stronger likelihood that Johansen and Kalas are no less committed, but are simply struggling to repeat last years' performance levels.

Anyone who has witnessed Johansen's recent goal celebrations following his strikes against Forest, QPR and Villa could easily tell how delighted he was to have found the back of the net for us at what were difficult stages in all three games. He endured a similar problem, moreover, at his previous club, Celtic, where he won 'Player of the Year' in his first season, only to lose form and fall completely out of favour in his second season there (a situation which culminated in his transfer to us).

In the case of Kalas, it was widely reported that he fought a protracted battle to secure his return to us (when his parent club wanted to sell him to Hull). It begs the question as to why he did so if he didn't like playing for Jokanovic.

That this is your main reason for asserting 'when' Jokanovic leaves, may I suggest that, were you to revise your assessment to 'if', you are more accurately describing the probability of his departure.

[Lighthouse]

The system is in place. It makes more sense to keep the system and change the coach. Than employ a manager like Felix who was in control of everything and nothing and then have to replace a system when he and it fails. Or replace an MD or one stats chap. In other words replace a cog is easier than having to change the system.

[Riversider]

Anyway, don't think anybody would disagree that they have been awful these last two or three games, Slavisa must agree or he wouldn't have hauled Kalas off at half time against Bristol City would he ?

[toshes mate]

The 'when' and 'if' of Jokanovic's departure are the same moment in time, always were and always will be, and the OP is just trying to up the ante, a regular pressure tactic.

The FFC situation is dysfunctional because the upper echelons of the Club are failing to support, nourish, and inspire the other parts of the Club and it is that simple.  If you do not listen to a shop floor worker telling you that sales are down and theft up, do you deserve to lose business?  That same underling may have told you exactly why things are going wrong had you been a good boss and discussed the issues.   The problem at FFC is not the nomenclature of the person in charge of the team it is pig ignorance from the people in the Boardroom who really do not know a good football player from a bad or indifferent one and really don't have the time to discuss it with anyone who might be able to tell them.

[Lyle from Hangeland]

Why does it have to be so binary - coach or manager?

I think most on here recognise that stats are a useful tool in transfer selection, and also that transfers these days won't be at the exclusive discretion of the "coach".

But it's still a big leap from that to our situation (up to this week) where the manager appears to have little or no invovlement in a process dominated by stats and run by unqualified nepotists. That was always too extreme. 

The circumstances of Kline's departure demonstrate what type of person he was and vindicate Jokanovic for all his public outbursts. (In fact there a few on here who dismissed those comments by saying Jokanovic "likes to complain" or "did the same thing at Watford" and they've got egg on their faces now, well and truly.)

Just by replacing Kline with Lovell (someone more qualified, and likely, much easier to get on with) the club has made a big, positive change, and it didn't have to completely abandon stats or turn over total control of transfers to Jokanovic.

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[aaronmcguigan]

Exactly. Reading reports of Kline having complete control, keeping methodology and results confidential etc.. if that model has any chance of success , especially where Slav has no experience of statistical recruitment, and the 'mericans having no experience of soccerball, surely the key here is open dialogue, sharing ideas and methods, sharing information to come to a decision that suits everyone. Slav/Talbot/Lovell could be a great dynamic if they have the clubs development at the heart of every decision they make , and not the actual stats machine being the dictator of everything

[Twig]

Why does it have to be so binary - coach or manager?

I think most on here recognise that stats are a useful tool in transfer selection, and also that transfers these days won't be at the exclusive discretion of the "coach".

But it's still a big leap from that to our situation (up to this week) where the manager appears to have little or no invovlement in a process dominated by stats and run by unqualified nepotists. That was always too extreme. 

The circumstances of Kline's departure demonstrate what type of person he was and vindicate Jokanovic for all his public outbursts. (In fact there were a few on here who dismissed those comments by saying Jokanovic "likes to complain" or "did the same thing at Watford" and they've got egg on their faces now, well and truly.)

Just by replacing Kline with Lovell (someone more qualified, and likely, much easier to get on with) the club has made a big, positive change, and it didn't have to completely abandon stats or turn over total control of transfers to Jokanovic. 

Exactly

[deadcowboys]

Don't agree with you Riversider that Johanson has seemed disinterested. I recall him saying before the last International break that he has had problems all season with his groin & it was being "managed". Not seen anything from him to suggest he is 100%.

Trying to play his game of box to box chasing everything like last year would be almost impossible with a dodgy groin.