If we reach the playoffs...

[Chutney]

Given our squad, making the play offs would be over achieving, like last season, credit to the manager.

[MJG]

Given our squad, making the play offs would be over achieving, like last season, credit to the manager.

This overachieving is lasting a long time seeing as since Jan 1st 2017 we have 86 points from 50 games. Long may it last

[MikeW]

If we reach the play off's and don't go up it will surely suggest continued lack of investment in the squad by the owners and those supposedly advising them.

I think we've been here before!

[flyingfish]

Given our squad, making the play offs would be over achieving, like last season, credit to the manager.

This overachieving is lasting a long time seeing as since Jan 1st 2017 we have 86 points from 50 games. Long may it last

Yeah on the one hand we have the best midfield in the championship, and one of the best players in Sess, on the other hand our squad is rubbish and overachieving.

On the one hand Slav is no good, on the other hand he is overacheiving with his squad of players. Isn't thta what we want him to do?

[flyingfish]

If we reach the play off's and don't go up it will surely suggest continued lack of investment in the squad by the owners and those supposedly advising them.

I think we've been here before!

Or, like many football games since the stat of history, the outcome is determined by a bit of random chance, an odd bounce of the ball, an injury, poor decision from ref (like vs Reading last year), deflection into the goal...

I'm not sure that successive play off appearances is evidence of 'under investment'. All the teams below 6th place would gladly swap with those above.

[Woolly Mammoth]

If the club are genuinely serious about the ambition to achieve promotion.
Then we shouldn't have to rely on a bounce or a referee decision or anything random. If the club prepares properly and the team are organised and fit. Plus the Owner backs his managers qualified requests for team strengthening by bringing in the necessary players to strengthen our weaknesses, Then that increases our chances of going up no matter what else happens.
For example. If we are capable of taking our chances and score enough goals, then any contentious referees decision or bounce of the ball will not or should not effect the result.
But whist we are on the edge with regards to sustaining injuries we cannot cover, and continue to rely on over performing and worrying about keeping clean sheets.
Then If that is ignored again in this window, then our chances will be severely reduced and we may have to rely on pot luck on the day, like last year,, and we know what happened there.

[flyingfish]

If the club are genuinely serious about the ambition to achieve promotion.
Then we shouldn't have to rely on a bounce or a referee decision or anything random. If the club prepares properly and the team are organised and fit. Plus the Owner backs his managers qualified requests for team strengthening by bringing in the necessary players to strengthen our weaknesses, Then that increases our chances of going up no matter what else happens.
For example. If we are capable of taking our chances and score enough goals, then any contentious referees decision or bounce of the ball will not or should not effect the result.
But whist we are on the edge with regards to sustaining injuries we cannot cover, and continue to rely on over performing and worrying about keeping clean sheets.
Then If that is ignored again in this window, then our chances will be severely reduced and we may have to rely on pot luck on the day, like last year,, and we know what happened there.

But they do. An enormous number of games are determined by chance and random events. A better team will mitigate against that, fair enough, but this cannot be eliminated. But for the handball decision last season, perhaps we were good enough to go up. We had already smashed Huddersfield twice, so it would suggest so. But one cannot mitigate against all random events and the owners cannot be held responsible for lack of investment when it was a dodgy penalty that cost us the playoffs.

[Woolly Mammoth]

If the club are genuinely serious about the ambition to achieve promotion.
Then we shouldn't have to rely on a bounce or a referee decision or anything random. If the club prepares properly and the team are organised and fit. Plus the Owner backs his managers qualified requests for team strengthening by bringing in the necessary players to strengthen our weaknesses, Then that increases our chances of going up no matter what else happens.
For example. If we are capable of taking our chances and score enough goals, then any contentious referees decision or bounce of the ball will not or should not effect the result.
But whist we are on the edge with regards to sustaining injuries we cannot cover, and continue to rely on over performing and worrying about keeping clean sheets.
Then If that is ignored again in this window, then our chances will be severely reduced and we may have to rely on pot luck on the day, like last year,, and we know what happened there.

But they do. An enormous number of games are determined by chance and random events. A better team will mitigate against that, fair enough, but this cannot be eliminated. But for the handball decision last season, perhaps we were good enough to go up. We had already smashed Huddersfield twice, so it would suggest so. But one cannot mitigate against all random events and the owners cannot be held responsible for lack of investment when it was a dodgy penalty that cost us the playoffs.

The owner did not Back the Manager last January when he needed it, and so far, unless something, anything, develops of significance, before the end of the month. it appears that a similar situation is occurring, which is in danger of culminating in the same ending.
So if that is the case once again, the moral of this story is "they never learn".

[toshes mate]

That's not the question. We go for top 2.
My bet is on finishing runnners up to Wolves.

With you all the way and it is still possible, although it may not be Wolves.....  :-)

[Twig]

If the club are genuinely serious about the ambition to achieve promotion.
Then we shouldn't have to rely on a bounce or a referee decision or anything random. If the club prepares properly and the team are organised and fit. Plus the Owner backs his managers qualified requests for team strengthening by bringing in the necessary players to strengthen our weaknesses, Then that increases our chances of going up no matter what else happens.
For example. If we are capable of taking our chances and score enough goals, then any contentious referees decision or bounce of the ball will not or should not effect the result.
But whist we are on the edge with regards to sustaining injuries we cannot cover, and continue to rely on over performing and worrying about keeping clean sheets.
Then If that is ignored again in this window, then our chances will be severely reduced and we may have to rely on pot luck on the day, like last year,, and we know what happened there.

But they do. An enormous number of games are determined by chance and random events. A better team will mitigate against that, fair enough, but this cannot be eliminated. But for the handball decision last season, perhaps we were good enough to go up. We had already smashed Huddersfield twice, so it would suggest so. But one cannot mitigate against all random events and the owners cannot be held responsible for lack of investment when it was a dodgy penalty that cost us the playoffs.

The owner did not Back the Manager last January when he needed it, and so far, unless something, anything, develops of significance, before the end of the month. it appears that a similar situation is occurring, which is in danger of culminating in the same ending.
So if that is the case once again, the moral of this story is "they never learn".

Woolly you are so right.

[Jims Dentist]

Woolly for D.O.F.
He would be so much better than Khan.