The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2018/19

[CottagersOnTour]

According to Polish sports journalist Mateusz Święcicki, APOEL Nicosia has rejected an offer from SC Freiburg of 4 million euros for his attacking midfielder Roland Sallai (21, photo). In addition to the Breisgauer should therefore also Fulham have thrown an eye on the Hungarian international, who scored nine goals in 29 games last.

Having been sad enough to youtube those young players - Sallai and Alioui -  both look really impressive. Sallai also gets to a really good level on footy manager  (for those who are interested in that type of thing).

I have signed him before on FM18 for Parma (in Serie B) and can confirm he is a good prospect for lower level prem teams  :dft011:

Replaced a couple of seasons after surviving in Serie A by Simone Lo Faso; a much better (and more expensive) prospect.

[FFC1987]

'No one is going to pay 20m' I beg to differ. I think a lot of clubs including some champions league clubs and championship clubs would pay for a proven goalscorer and international striker. Especially in current market.

[Roberty]

'No one is going to pay 20m' I beg to differ. I think a lot of clubs including some champions league clubs and championship clubs would pay for a proven goalscorer and international striker. Especially in current market.

So it must be a great surprise that Newcastle have received no huge offers for him ?

This is the third transfer window in which he's topped their for sale list and publicity generated by Newcastle about Rafa seeing no future for him at the club has seriously devalued their player

[colinwhite]

Most sides dont play with a target player type of striker. The preference is for mobile ,fast forwards who can quickly transition into attack and press in the opponents final third at times. These sides (Liverpool etc ) are not ball hoofers ,but not possession based ,like us either.

Mitro suits us perfectly,as his first touch under pressure is very good ,and he is also a huge asset for us in BOTH boxes at set-pieces (our achilees heel for years ).His hold up play has been great when we have had lots of possesion in the opponents half,but not many teams in the PL play this way, and the ones that do City ,Arsenal etc can afford better options than Mitro. Bennitez teams are more defensive and Counter -attacking/pressing ,not strengths of the big man. These points go a long way to explain why not too many big offers have come in for other clubs .
Is he worth 20 mill? I would suggest that the arguements above strengthen the case that ,for us he clearly is so important that he is worth that type of sum.

[FFC1987]

'No one is going to pay 20m' I beg to differ. I think a lot of clubs including some champions league clubs and championship clubs would pay for a proven goalscorer and international striker. Especially in current market.

So it must be a great surprise that Newcastle have received no huge offers for him ?

This is the third transfer window in which he's topped their for sale list and publicity generated by Newcastle about Rafa seeing no future for him at the club has seriously devalued their player

I think if it goes right down to the wire, you'll find clubs willing to  pay 20m for his services. Especially championship clubs.

[GJB]

Anyone know exactly when Newcastle fly out today? ... If Mitrovic goes with the squad abroad, do people think we should forget about him and move on to searching for another striker?

[Roberty]

'No one is going to pay 20m' I beg to differ. I think a lot of clubs including some champions league clubs and championship clubs would pay for a proven goalscorer and international striker. Especially in current market.

So it must be a great surprise that Newcastle have received no huge offers for him ?

This is the third transfer window in which he's topped their for sale list and publicity generated by Newcastle about Rafa seeing no future for him at the club has seriously devalued their player

I think if it goes right down to the wire, you'll find clubs willing to  pay 20m for his services. Especially championship clubs.

If there had been any interest Newcastle would have made sure that we and everyone else knew about it - I think a Championship club could afford to loan him but I doubt any have the FFP space to buy him for that price - there is also the issue of will he put pen to paper for any other club.

The ways forward is to find an alternative and make them a take it or leave it offer because his value is going to seriously tumble if he is not sold in this transfer window

[WhiteJC]

 
Daniel Caligiuri would be quite the coup for Fulham

Fulham's excellent business in the transfer window has given them an excellent chance at staying up next year.

The Cottagers finally returned to the Premier League after a four absence after defeating Aston Villa in the play-off final. Due to the strength of the promoted sides and the money available to Premier League teams, avoiding relegation will be harder than ever. Fulham have wasted no time in bolstering their ranks.

Slavisa Jokanovic secured the signature of Ivorian midfielder Jean Michael Seri despite interest from both Arsenal and Chelsea. The Serb also landed Fabri from Fenerbache and Maxime le Marchand from Nice. The Cottagers also pulled off a massive coup by securing the services of Andre Schurrle on loan from Borussia Dortmund.

Following Ryan Fredericks departure to West Ham, Jokanovic will be searching for a replacement.

To continue their great window, Fulham should make a move for Schalke wideman – Daniel Caligiuri. Valued at £6.75m by Transfermarkt, the 30-year-old was one of the top performers in the Bundesliga last season after arriving from Wolfsburg back in January 2017.  He scored six goals and registered ten assists with an average rating of 7.57 according to WhoScored – only James Rodriguez averaged higher in the entire division.

Compared to Fredericks, Caligiuri averaged significantly more interceptions and tackles per 90 minutes. Offensively, the Italian came out on top – averaging more key passes, crosses and successful dribbles per game than the Englishman (WhoScored).

His low value could see Fulham pick up the bargain of the summer.



https://www.footballtransfertavern.com/premier-league/fulham/daniel-caligiuri-would-be-quite-the-coup-for-fulham/

[Roberty]

Re. Mitro, if Newcastle have absolutely taken the pi$$ then of course there's a threshold where I understand us walking away.

However, ultimately good commercial sense involves working out what something is worth to you, what you can afford, and that's your limit for a deal. So if our limit on that basis is £20m, and newcastle initially agreed to sell for £16m but then said "oh you're clearly rich, so now we want £20m", good commercial sense involves putting the emotions to one side and doing the deal at that price because it's still within the limit you set yourself.

Obviously it sticks in the throat but you'd just try to avoid ever having to do business with Ashley and Charnley ever again and most other clubs will do the same, so it comes back to bite them eventually.

You need to take into account:-
1. Would anyone else make an offer for him because to date no one has or they would be crowing about it
2. Even if they found another club to make an offer, would that club pay him as much as we have agreed to pay him ?
3. If they did find another club, would Mitro agree to sign for them ?

On this one I think we are in the driving seat - so gently, gently catchee monkey

[FFC1987]

Re. Mitro, if Newcastle have absolutely taken the pi$$ then of course there's a threshold where I understand us walking away.

However, ultimately good commercial sense involves working out what something is worth to you, what you can afford, and that's your limit for a deal. So if our limit on that basis is £20m, and newcastle initially agreed to sell for £16m but then said "oh you're clearly rich, so now we want £20m", good commercial sense involves putting the emotions to one side and doing the deal at that price because it's still within the limit you set yourself.

Obviously it sticks in the throat but you'd just try to avoid ever having to do business with Ashley and Charnley ever again and most other clubs will do the same, so it comes back to bite them eventually.

You need to take into account:-
1. Would anyone else make an offer for him because to date no one has or they would be crowing about it
2. Even if they found another club to make an offer, would that club pay him as much as we have agreed to pay him ?
3. If they did find another club, would Mitro agree to sign for them ?

On this one I think we are in the driving seat - so gently, gently catchee monkey

Actually Rafa confirmed there's been multiple enquiries to Mitro's availability and they have had at least loan offers from abroad but he knows what Mitro wants and wants it resolved best for all parties. In regards to FFP and championship clubs, if the recent QPR/bournmouth segment has taught us anything, it's, you can flaunt these rules and worst case you'll get a 17m slap on the wrist and the odd embargo compared to the 100m+ windfall if you do go up. Clubs will find 20m for him, albeit I hear Newcastle want upfront rather than in instalments so thats the only rough spot for them if anything. I honestly can't believe considering how bizarre the current window is, that people don't think Mitro is worth 20m.

[b+w geezer]

Roberty's Q.1 is key, but if there were now another interested party it is unfortunately not inevitable that we would be hearing about it, and in the event that Newcastle were now asking for more, the arrival of competition would actually be the likeliest explanation.

Any such club would by defintion be in a top league here or elsewhere, so yes, if they really were interested then 2. they probably could match our personal terms and 3. they might appeal to the player, particularly in circumstances which had changed from his expectations.  Not saying any of that is nailed on, but it's hardly out the question.

[the nutflush]

Re. Mitro, if Newcastle have absolutely taken the pi$$ then of course there's a threshold where I understand us walking away.

However, ultimately good commercial sense involves working out what something is worth to you, what you can afford, and that's your limit for a deal. So if our limit on that basis is £20m, and newcastle initially agreed to sell for £16m but then said "oh you're clearly rich, so now we want £20m", good commercial sense involves putting the emotions to one side and doing the deal at that price because it's still within the limit you set yourself.

Obviously it sticks in the throat but you'd just try to avoid ever having to do business with Ashley and Charnley ever again and most other clubs will do the same, so it comes back to bite them eventually.

You need to take into account:-
1. Would anyone else make an offer for him because to date no one has or they would be crowing about it
2. Even if they found another club to make an offer, would that club pay him as much as we have agreed to pay him ?
3. If they did find another club, would Mitro agree to sign for them ?

On this one I think we are in the driving seat - so gently, gently catchee monkey

if we catch the monkey at some point in the next 13 days then fine but in the meantime i remain bloody worried!

Slowly slowly miss the boat.

[Roberty]

Roberty's Q.1 is key, but if there were now another interested party it is unfortunately not inevitable that we would be hearing about it, and in the event that Newcastle were now asking for more, the arrival of competition would actually be the likeliest explanation.

Given that everyone knows that we are interested - an offer from another club would be in the local newspaper like a flash

They are owned and run but so-called "London Wideboys" and they all know about the power of publicity - if you doubt it just look at any Sports Direct window

[Roberty]

if we catch the monkey at some point in the next 13 days then fine but in the meantime i remain bloody worried!

Slowly slowly miss the boat.

This boat has a departure date and time that Newcastle have to work with if they want him out before the new year

We on the other hand we can and should be looking at who else is available - our transfer business so far has been full of surprises, not only the quality of them but I also doubt that any of the new players was on anyone's list before they shipped up to Motspur Park for their medical. So I would expect the same with the other player that we still need.

[Skatzoffc]

Most sides dont play with a target player type of striker. The preference is for mobile ,fast forwards who can quickly transition into attack and press in the opponents final third at times. These sides (Liverpool etc ) are not ball hoofers ,but not possession based ,like us either.

Mitro suits us perfectly,as his first touch under pressure is very good ,and he is also a huge asset for us in BOTH boxes at set-pieces (our achilees heel for years ).His hold up play has been great when we have had lots of possesion in the opponents half,but not many teams in the PL play this way, and the ones that do City ,Arsenal etc can afford better options than Mitro. Bennitez teams are more defensive and Counter -attacking/pressing ,not strengths of the big man. These points go a long way to explain why not too many big offers have come in for other clubs .
Is he worth 20 mill? I would suggest that the arguements above strengthen the case that ,for us he clearly is so important that he is worth that type of sum.

Exactly Colin.
There are not many like him out there.

All the more reason to ensure we get him and not someone else.
Another who fits our system so well, will be hard to find.

Come Fulham, sort it out now!

[FFC1987]

if we catch the monkey at some point in the next 13 days then fine but in the meantime i remain bloody worried!

Slowly slowly miss the boat.

This boat has a departure date and time that Newcastle have to work with if they want him out before the new year

We on the other hand we can and should be looking at who else is available - our transfer business so far has been full of surprises, not only the quality of them but I also doubt that any of the new players was on anyone's list before they shipped up to Motspur Park for their medical. So I would expect the same with the other player that we still need.

As an FYI, I might seem like i'm super keen on Mitro but in all honesty, if it doesn't happen, it doesn't happen. I just think A) hes worth 20m in current window and B) someone will end up paying in that region unless they loan him and run down his contract (which is perfectly possible). if we don't get him and Slav gets a similar striker in record and potential then so be it. I just think he's 100% worth 20m in current market.

[b+w geezer]

Given that everyone knows that we are interested - an offer from another club would be in the local newspaper like a flash
They are owned and run but so-called "London Wideboys" and they all know about the power of publicity

Agreed as highly possible, but not as inevitable, because all clubs (even Newcastle) keep some things from public notice, for example at the insistence of the other party who has made it a condition. In the event Fulham had been spun that line (another offer exists but cofidentiality forbids divulging from whom) our guys would have to make a call as to the veracity.

I'm absolutely not affirming that has taken place, merely that it could do.

[Skatzoffc]

Re. Mitro, if Newcastle have absolutely taken the pi$$ then of course there's a threshold where I understand us walking away.

However, ultimately good commercial sense involves working out what something is worth to you, what you can afford, and that's your limit for a deal. So if our limit on that basis is £20m, and newcastle initially agreed to sell for £16m but then said "oh you're clearly rich, so now we want £20m", good commercial sense involves putting the emotions to one side and doing the deal at that price because it's still within the limit you set yourself.

Obviously it sticks in the throat but you'd just try to avoid ever having to do business with Ashley and Charnley ever again and most other clubs will do the same, so it comes back to bite them eventually.

You need to take into account:-
1. Would anyone else make an offer for him because to date no one has or they would be crowing about it
2. Even if they found another club to make an offer, would that club pay him as much as we have agreed to pay him ?
3. If they did find another club, would Mitro agree to sign for them ?

On this one I think we are in the driving seat - so gently, gently catchee monkey

But as we are direct competitors to Newcastle this season, they can sit on it to stop us getting him.
I don't believe they are as financially strapped as they make out. This is borne out by the 2 recent signings by them.

The difficulty we have finding a player that fits as well with us this late in the window is the problem imo.
We should pay the £20m and move onto defensive frailties in the squad.

To enter a 4th season without a No. 9 would be criminally inept from a recruitment pov.

[Two Ton Ted]

To enter a 4th season without a No. 9 would be criminally inept from a recruitment pov.

This. Completely and utterly correct.

[Nero]

Ashley has said that they have to sell to buy, he not putting in any more money,  loaning Mitro is no good to them they have to sell to raise additional funds for Transfers and Wages