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Started by Jonnoj, May 28, 2018, 12:34:36 PM

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MJG

Quote from: Take Me Home MAF on May 29, 2018, 03:53:27 PM

At what point did I say it made people less of a true supporter.
...........

I think the truth of the matter is that was there was lots of people there for the day, who don't support Fulham at all,
you said it just then
Just the views of a long term fan

Take Me Home MAF

Quote from: MJG on May 29, 2018, 04:00:14 PM
Quote from: Take Me Home MAF on May 29, 2018, 03:53:27 PM

At what point did I say it made people less of a true supporter.
...........

I think the truth of the matter is that was there was lots of people there for the day, who don't support Fulham at all,
you said it just then

That is correct - lots of people were there who do not support Fulham at all. This was bound to happen when the club needed to make the efforts to sell the allocation and give 5 tickets per sth. You can't argue with that.

I had two people next to me who were with their mate and did not support Fulham.

What I said there is correct.

Southcoastffc

Take Me Home MAF - you say you are not judging people's reasons for leaving then you say you think it's bad form [that they left].  Therefore, you are judging those people and in my opinion that is wrong of you.
The world is made up of electrons, protons, neurons, possibly muons and, definitely, morons.


MJG

Quote from: Take Me Home MAF on May 29, 2018, 04:02:48 PM
Quote from: MJG on May 29, 2018, 04:00:14 PM
Quote from: Take Me Home MAF on May 29, 2018, 03:53:27 PM

At what point did I say it made people less of a true supporter.
...........

I think the truth of the matter is that was there was lots of people there for the day, who don't support Fulham at all,
you said it just then

That is correct - lots of people were there who do not support Fulham at all. This was bound to happen when the club needed to make the efforts to sell the allocation and give 5 tickets per sth. You can't argue with that.

I had two people next to me who were with their mate and did not support Fulham.

What I said there is correct.
so a true supporter who left say as the cup was lifted is no less a fan. So I don't get what or even who you are moaning at leaving early for.
Just the views of a long term fan

MJG

Out of interest what time did you leave the ground TMHMAF?
Just the views of a long term fan

Holders

This is one of several threads moaning about aspects of the day. I say let's just savour the moment for once.
Non sumus statione ferriviaria


Fulhamfan666

Oh bugger off.

I left "early" (about 10-15 min after the trophy was lifted in the air) because I wanted to and because I thought it was over.

Don't really understand the purpose of this thread tho?  :022: People can do as they please amiright.



MJG

Quote from: Holders on May 29, 2018, 04:14:52 PM
This is one of several threads moaning about aspects of the day. I say let's just savour the moment for once.
get it right... I'm moaning at someone moaning.
Agree very little to be negative about following Saturday.
Just the views of a long term fan

bwamy

#48
I would've stayed for the 'slide' if I had known it was going to take place. Stayed for a good twenty minutes after the team had lifted the trophy. Thought it was winding down and the players were sort of drifting off for their dressing room celebration. The celebrations continued on Fulham High Street into the night, until the electrical storm and downpour. God must be a Villa supporter!


Take Me Home MAF

MJG - I left the ground at 19:40. I'm also not moaning, I'm commenting on the initial post. You tried to misconstrue what I have been posting which I stick by - a surprising large % of people left early prior to the players finishing their celebrations on the pitch.

Holders - could not agree more. But I also don't see why we can't comment of what was initially posted and aspects of the day - that a lot of people left while the players were still on the pitch.

Fulhamfan666 - Of course fans can do what they want. Just think there was a high % who left while the players were still on the pitch celebrating, as per the persons opinion who initially made this thread.

snarks

As I said I left because of outside responsibilities, one of the people with me left because they were fasting and had to get home to prepare for the evening meal, and the other one with me left as I was taking him home to see his mum for her birthday the following day. As it was it was an hour and 30 mins after the final whistle when I got into the car in Ickenham.

A day to savour for me in any event and to be blunt with the result I really don't care about what I saw or missed. I sat and watched the full 4 hr 4 minute sky recording after I got home so don't think I missed
much

Holders

#51
Quote from: MJG on May 29, 2018, 04:15:51 PM
Quote from: Holders on May 29, 2018, 04:14:52 PM
This is one of several threads moaning about aspects of the day. I say let's just savour the moment for once.
get it right... I'm moaning at someone moaning.
Agree very little to be negative about following Saturday.

MJG. I know you were and I was NOT getting at you - my post went on just 2 seconds after yours! I was commenting on the fact that a post like this, the Fredericks one and the moans about the stadium were all unnecessary detraction from what should have been an untainted memorable occasion.
Non sumus statione ferriviaria


Holders

Quote from: bwamy on May 29, 2018, 04:24:36 PM
I would've stayed for the 'slide' if I had known it was going to take place. Stayed for a good twenty minutes after the team had lifted the trophy. Thought it was winding down and the players were sort of drifting off for their dressing room celebration. The celebrations continued on Fulham High Street into the night, until the electrical storm and downpour. God must be a Villa supporter!


They had floods in Birmingham. Biblical or what?
Non sumus statione ferriviaria

Take Me Home MAF

Quote from: Holders on May 29, 2018, 04:31:08 PM
Quote from: MJG on May 29, 2018, 04:15:51 PM
Quote from: Holders on May 29, 2018, 04:14:52 PM
This is one of several threads moaning about aspects of the day. I say let's just savour the moment for once.
get it right... I'm moaning at someone moaning.
Agree very little to be negative about following Saturday.

MJG. I know you were and I was NOT getting at you - my post went on just 2 seconds after yours! I was commenting on the fact that a post like this, the Fredericks one and the moans about the stadium were all unnecessary detraction from what should have been an untainted memorable occasion.

It was an untainted day - but why can't people discuss aspects of it. The Fredericks incident was a massive point in the game.

Woolly Mammoth

#54
As far as I can see there is nothing to be negative about. From the moment I woke up on Saturday right through the morning afternoon pre match, and evening post match. Apart from the glorious victory and the heroic performances by the players, as well as the magnificent support visually and the sound, before and after the match. From the sea of white heading up Wembley way, the open top double decker buses with hordes of our supporters on board making their way to the Torch pub.
The Great Wall of white in the Stadium, with black and white flags, all that was impressive.
The celebrations on and off the pitch was something we all have dreamt about let alone the way we won it.
Plus the majority of fans did stay to the bitter end, but as some have already explained, there were trains to catch, work commitments and with their hands full with young children.
The only real spaces I noticed was a section in the second tier below where i was sitting in the front row of the top tier, the second tier I believe held some Villa supporters who were in plain clothes in disguise and neutrals.
When you think of the thousands of Fulham Supporters who were there to celebrate as long as they could with the players, I thought it was a magnificent festival and spectacle for all long suffering Fulham Supporters, who have been to the abyss and back.
Let's also recognise the cover by the media who flashed that huge wall of white, that enormous sea of white across the land and overseas, and let's remember all those beaming Fulham faces wherever you went, whether it's before or after the match. 
What a great advert for Fulham FC on top of the footballing display by our team.
So for me it was faultless right up until my head rested on my pillow.
Marks for me 100 out of 100.
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Jonnoj

Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on May 29, 2018, 04:45:05 PM
As far as I can see there is nothing to be negative about. From the moment I woke up on Saturday right through the morning afternoon pre match, and evening post match. Apart from the glorious victory and the heroic performances by the players, as well as the magnificent support visually and the sound, before and after the match. From the sea of white heading up Wembley way, the open top double decker buses with hordes of our supporters on board making their way to the Torch pub.
The Great Wall of white in the Stadium, with black and white flags, all that was impressive.
The celebrations on and off the pitch was something we all have dreamt about let alone the way we won it.
Plus the majority of fans did stay to the bitter end, but as some have already explained, there were trains to catch, work commitments and with their hands full with young children.
The only real spaces I noticed was a section in the second tier below where i was sitting in the front row of the top tier, the second tier I believe held some Villa supporters who were in plain clothes in disguise and neutrals.
When you think of the thousands of Fulham Supporters who were there to celebrate as long as they could with the players, I thought it was a magnificent festival and spectacle for all long suffering Fulham Supporters, who have been to the abyss and back.
Let's also recognise the cover by the media who flashed that huge wall of white, that enormous sea of white across the land and overseas, and let's remember all those beaming Fulham faces wherever you went, whether it's before or after the match. 
What a great advert for Fulham FC on top of the footballing display by our team.
So for me it was faultless right up until my head rested on my pillow.
Marks for me 100 out of 100.

Since I started this, and wish I hadn't, can I just say I agree with every word you say.
I had a brilliant day I'll never forget.

Mitch

I'm on TMHMAF on this - you can ask a question about what a large group of people did without it being a negative assumption on one or two people. Many on here get VERY defensive. TMHMAF isn't questioning YOUR support or situation re leaving, but something he noticed amongst a large group of fans that he found odd. It's a messageboard, a place for discussion.

MJG

Quote from: Statto on May 29, 2018, 05:01:49 PM
Quote from: Take Me Home MAF on May 29, 2018, 03:53:27 PM
I think the truth of the matter is that was there was lots of people there for the day, who don't support Fulham at all

I don't agree with the pedantic criticism of some people leaving after 30-45 mins of celebrations instead of staying the full 50 minutes to see the slide as well...

HOWEVER... The above statement is correct IMO

Of 38,000 there on the day, I'd wager half of them only get to 1 or 2 games per season and a good 5,000+ weren't even Fulham supporters, just neutrals and tourists.

I am astounded we sounded so loud on the day and can only assume that was attributable to the Wembley acoustics, because the level of shouting and singing in the stands was around the level you'd get in the Riverside Stand for a 2-0 win over Burton
can't agree with that last paragraph. Not sure where you were sat but in lower tier area around 121 it was almost non stop.
Just the views of a long term fan


Mitch

Was in the second tier and was yelling at people in the last ten to stand up and sing. Got some response eventually, but it wasn't exactly brilliant considering the numbers there. The acoustics generally did seem pretty good, but you can always be louder in support of the team, can't you?! Was thankful for the noise from the lower tier helping the team over the line. It is easy to get lost in the game and stop singing, especially as nerves set in.

Fulhamfan666

Quote from: MJG on May 29, 2018, 05:14:32 PM
Quote from: Statto on May 29, 2018, 05:01:49 PM
Quote from: Take Me Home MAF on May 29, 2018, 03:53:27 PM
I think the truth of the matter is that was there was lots of people there for the day, who don't support Fulham at all

I don't agree with the pedantic criticism of some people leaving after 30-45 mins of celebrations instead of staying the full 50 minutes to see the slide as well...

HOWEVER... The above statement is correct IMO

Of 38,000 there on the day, I'd wager half of them only get to 1 or 2 games per season and a good 5,000+ weren't even Fulham supporters, just neutrals and tourists.

I am astounded we sounded so loud on the day and can only assume that was attributable to the Wembley acoustics, because the level of shouting and singing in the stands was around the level you'd get in the Riverside Stand for a 2-0 win over Burton
can't agree with that last paragraph. Not sure where you were sat but in lower tier area around 121 it was almost non stop.

Same for block 515 where I sat.