We only want players with Prem experience in Jan .....

[Neutral Zone Ultra]

While I agree to an extent with this sentiment, I would say be careful what you wish for. When we went for 'Championship experience' in 15/16 we ended up making our squad worse.

[Statto]

While I agree to an extent with this sentiment, I would say be careful what you wish for. When we went for 'Championship experience' in 15/16 we ended up making our squad worse.

Or did we just have a poor manager in Symons?
We signed Ream, Fredericks, Cairney and tried to sign Mcdonald that summer as well. All at cheap prices.
Under a better manager that was turned into the spine of a great team.
With hindsight I think summer 15/16 was our best window under Khan

[sunburywhite]

Budgie Byrne has the eqivalent of Prem experience when we signed him

[@jolslover]

While I agree to an extent with this sentiment, I would say be careful what you wish for. When we went for 'Championship experience' in 15/16 we ended up making our squad worse.

Or did we just have a poor manager in Symons?
We signed Ream, Fredericks, Cairney and tried to sign Mcdonald that summer as well. All at cheap prices.
Under a better manager that was turned into the spine of a great team.
With hindsight I think summer 15/16 was our best window under Khan

No it wasn't. The only signing that performed within the first 8 months was Cairney. That is a terrible success rate. Come Jan we were fighting relegation.

[Woolly Mammoth]

Budgie Byrne has the eqivalent of Prem experience when we signed him

His experience was Division One, and he was as fat as butter.

[Statto]

While I agree to an extent with this sentiment, I would say be careful what you wish for. When we went for 'Championship experience' in 15/16 we ended up making our squad worse.

Or did we just have a poor manager in Symons?
We signed Ream, Fredericks, Cairney and tried to sign Mcdonald that summer as well. All at cheap prices.
Under a better manager that was turned into the spine of a great team.
With hindsight I think summer 15/16 was our best window under Khan

No it wasn't. The only signing that performed within the first 8 months was Cairney. That is a terrible success rate. Come Jan we were fighting relegation.

So if Ranieri gets Seri and Anguissa playing world class football in a few months time can we still call them crap signings because it was only a new manager and several months' training that got them playing well?

[@jolslover]

While I agree to an extent with this sentiment, I would say be careful what you wish for. When we went for 'Championship experience' in 15/16 we ended up making our squad worse.

Or did we just have a poor manager in Symons?
We signed Ream, Fredericks, Cairney and tried to sign Mcdonald that summer as well. All at cheap prices.
Under a better manager that was turned into the spine of a great team.
With hindsight I think summer 15/16 was our best window under Khan

No it wasn't. The only signing that performed within the first 8 months was Cairney. That is a terrible success rate. Come Jan we were fighting relegation.

So if Ranieri gets Seri and Anguissa playing world class football in a few months time can we still call them crap signings because it was only a new manager and several months' training that got them playing well?

Ok fair enough point. So we signed 3 good footballers that year, That improved and showed that once they had better players around them. I think a lot of this years signings would also show / will go onto show they are good footballers if they had better players around them. More than 3. Would you say this window was a success then?

[Neutral Zone Ultra]

While I agree to an extent with this sentiment, I would say be careful what you wish for. When we went for 'Championship experience' in 15/16 we ended up making our squad worse.

Or did we just have a poor manager in Symons?
We signed Ream, Fredericks, Cairney and tried to sign Mcdonald that summer as well. All at cheap prices.
Under a better manager that was turned into the spine of a great team.
With hindsight I think summer 15/16 was our best window under Khan

I'm sorry, but Lonergan, Pringle, Stearman, Richards, Garbutt, Husband, Ince and Baird were all crap under Symons, and then when Slaviša came in they were still crap and we were very lucky not to get relegated. 16/17 summer was 100% our best summer window under Khan, because we replaced that lot with actual decent players.

[Neutral Zone Ultra]

While I agree to an extent with this sentiment, I would say be careful what you wish for. When we went for 'Championship experience' in 15/16 we ended up making our squad worse.

Or did we just have a poor manager in Symons?
We signed Ream, Fredericks, Cairney and tried to sign Mcdonald that summer as well. All at cheap prices.
Under a better manager that was turned into the spine of a great team.
With hindsight I think summer 15/16 was our best window under Khan

No it wasn't. The only signing that performed within the first 8 months was Cairney. That is a terrible success rate. Come Jan we were fighting relegation.

So if Ranieri gets Seri and Anguissa playing world class football in a few months time can we still call them crap signings because it was only a new manager and several months' training that got them playing well?

Ok fair enough point. So we signed 3 good footballers that year, That improved and showed that once they had better players around them. I think a lot of this years signings would also show / will go onto show they are good footballers if they had better players around them. More than 3. Would you say this window was a success then?

Good point, and I would like to bring up Tim Ream as an example. 15/16 he was one of our worst players, genuinely dreadful defender, I remember him getting A LOT of criticism, including being deemed not fit to wear the shirt at Brentford away, similar to Anguissa and Seri at the moment. Fast forward 3 years, and he's a cult hero and was an integral member of our promotion squad. Obviously this doesn't mean it's gospel that the same will happen with our new signings, I just think our fans do like a convenient scapegoat if they can find one.

[@jolslover]

While I agree to an extent with this sentiment, I would say be careful what you wish for. When we went for 'Championship experience' in 15/16 we ended up making our squad worse.

Or did we just have a poor manager in Symons?
We signed Ream, Fredericks, Cairney and tried to sign Mcdonald that summer as well. All at cheap prices.
Under a better manager that was turned into the spine of a great team.
With hindsight I think summer 15/16 was our best window under Khan

No it wasn't. The only signing that performed within the first 8 months was Cairney. That is a terrible success rate. Come Jan we were fighting relegation.

So if Ranieri gets Seri and Anguissa playing world class football in a few months time can we still call them crap signings because it was only a new manager and several months' training that got them playing well?

Ok fair enough point. So we signed 3 good footballers that year, That improved and showed that once they had better players around them. I think a lot of this years signings would also show / will go onto show they are good footballers if they had better players around them. More than 3. Would you say this window was a success then?

Good point, and I would like to bring up Tim Ream as an example. 15/16 he was one of our worst players, genuinely dreadful defender, I remember him getting A LOT of criticism, including being deemed not fit to wear the shirt at Brentford away, similar to Anguissa and Seri at the moment. Fast forward 3 years, and he's a cult hero and was an integral member of our promotion squad. Obviously this doesn't mean it's gospel that the same will happen with our new signings, I just think our fans do like a convenient scapegoat if they can find one.

Very true.

[Classic94]

Could be worth raiding Liverpool for Clyne, Matip and Origi. Drinkwater would be a good signing too. 

[@jolslover]

Clyne would be good, means we can send TFM back and get another prem loan. Maybe RLC

[Jims Dentist]

Budgie Byrne has the eqivalent of Prem experience when we signed him

His experience was Division One, and he was as fat as butter.

And then WHU really stitched us up by sending us Brian Dear who was a barrel of lard 🐷

[Woolly Mammoth]

Budgie Byrne has the eqivalent of Prem experience when we signed him

His experience was Division One, and he was as fat as butter.

And then WHU really stitched us up by sending us Brian Dear who was a barrel of lard 🐷

Hmm yes Brian Dear, blimey if I remember correctly he was signed on the same day as Stan Horne from Man City, and Wilf Tranter from Man Utd.

[GJB]

Drinkwater has played 520 minutes (less than 6 full games) of Premier league football since the beginning of last season (no minutes of Premier league football this season). I'd be wary of placing huge reliance and desire to sign him, because for me, there's a chance it will take him a while to get back to how good he was when he was playing regular first team football.

Wouldn't people want to sign somebody in January that's been playing first team football regularly, at a good standard, who can slot in immediately?

[Denver Fulham]

Not sure who they are or how we are going to get them but we only need players whose CV says they are proven Prem players and fairly recently ...
List to begin with, please add accordingly :-
Jermain Defoe - Bournemouth
Victor Moses - Chelsea
Cahill - Chelsea
Drinkwater - Chelsea
Hudson Odoi - Chelsea (allow me 1)
Jagielka - EVerton
Okazaki - Leicester
King - Leicester
Clyne - Liverpool
Mangala - Man City
Valancia - Man Utd

admittedly not many midfielders there help me out

Yes.  Please no more French lightweights/dwarfs.  Cahill, Clyne, Okazaki, Drinkwater.

N'Golo Kante is 5-feet-6 and 150 lbs (under 70 kgs) and is incredible. Where you're from and what size you are doesn't determine whether you're good enough or care enough to be good in the Premier League. The effort level of some of our key players -- including sacred cows like Cairney -- has been below standard.

[Matt10]

Not sure who they are or how we are going to get them but we only need players whose CV says they are proven Prem players and fairly recently ...
List to begin with, please add accordingly :-
Jermain Defoe - Bournemouth
Victor Moses - Chelsea
Cahill - Chelsea
Drinkwater - Chelsea
Hudson Odoi - Chelsea (allow me 1)
Jagielka - EVerton
Okazaki - Leicester
King - Leicester
Clyne - Liverpool
Mangala - Man City
Valancia - Man Utd

admittedly not many midfielders there help me out

Yes.  Please no more French lightweights/dwarfs.  Cahill, Clyne, Okazaki, Drinkwater.

N'Golo Kante is 5-feet-6 and 150 lbs (under 70 kgs) and is incredible. Where you're from and what size you are doesn't determine whether you're good enough or care enough to be good in the Premier League. The effort level of some of our key players -- including sacred cows like Cairney -- has been below standard.

Which matches under Ranieri has the effort level from Cairney been below standards?

[Denver Fulham]

Not sure who they are or how we are going to get them but we only need players whose CV says they are proven Prem players and fairly recently ...
List to begin with, please add accordingly :-
Jermain Defoe - Bournemouth
Victor Moses - Chelsea
Cahill - Chelsea
Drinkwater - Chelsea
Hudson Odoi - Chelsea (allow me 1)
Jagielka - EVerton
Okazaki - Leicester
King - Leicester
Clyne - Liverpool
Mangala - Man City
Valancia - Man Utd

admittedly not many midfielders there help me out

Yes.  Please no more French lightweights/dwarfs.  Cahill, Clyne, Okazaki, Drinkwater.

N'Golo Kante is 5-feet-6 and 150 lbs (under 70 kgs) and is incredible. Where you're from and what size you are doesn't determine whether you're good enough or care enough to be good in the Premier League. The effort level of some of our key players -- including sacred cows like Cairney -- has been below standard.

Which matches under Ranieri has the effort level from Cairney been below standards?

Well, he got yanked after 45 ineffective minutes on Saturday after being benched against Leicester, so I suggest Ranieri thinks there are concerns.

[Sting of the North]

Not sure who they are or how we are going to get them but we only need players whose CV says they are proven Prem players and fairly recently ...
List to begin with, please add accordingly :-
Jermain Defoe - Bournemouth
Victor Moses - Chelsea
Cahill - Chelsea
Drinkwater - Chelsea
Hudson Odoi - Chelsea (allow me 1)
Jagielka - EVerton
Okazaki - Leicester
King - Leicester
Clyne - Liverpool
Mangala - Man City
Valancia - Man Utd

admittedly not many midfielders there help me out

Yes.  Please no more French lightweights/dwarfs.  Cahill, Clyne, Okazaki, Drinkwater.

N'Golo Kante is 5-feet-6 and 150 lbs (under 70 kgs) and is incredible. Where you're from and what size you are doesn't determine whether you're good enough or care enough to be good in the Premier League. The effort level of some of our key players -- including sacred cows like Cairney -- has been below standard.

Which matches under Ranieri has the effort level from Cairney been below standards?

Well, he got yanked after 45 ineffective minutes on Saturday after being benched against Leicester, so I suggest Ranieri thinks there are concerns.

But surely a lack of effort from Cairney is in any case not the only reasonable explanation for him not playing 90 minutes?

[alfie]

The owners will not buy those players, it is to obvious a selection of them would help. What we will get is a few more lightweight unknown midfielders, rather too late in january. Unfortunately TK is way out of hiis depth and it is such a shame he doesn't havve rhe experience tovrealise we need to change. He has cost us a brilliant manager a d will cost us our place in the prem.

Well until we can actually bring players in, you have no idea who will be coming or for that matter going, why make statements of what the Khans or anybody will do when you have no idea.