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Did we go up a season too early?

Started by Robbie, February 06, 2019, 03:32:14 PM

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Woolly Mammoth

Quote from: Baszab on February 06, 2019, 04:46:21 PM
We never had a squad after Wembley

It was up to the a management to prepare from 26/5/18 to build a team - but they did FA and scrabbled around at the last minute

As usual, totally incompetent.
Its not the man in the fight, it's the fight in the man.  🐘

Never forget your Roots.

Woolly Mammoth

Quote from: toshes mate on February 06, 2019, 05:04:45 PM
Out of the actual squad that gained promotion only Fredericks was already beyond recovery, and even he was arguably retainable had the huge cash amount which was to be squandered in the summer of 2018 been carved up into more useful ideas as to team building in a serious challenge for success over two years or so.   Crucial mistakes were being made well before Wembley.
The truth is the Khans never really did back their coach of choice because he wasn't obsequious enough for the likes of some in the Board Room, far too sure of himself, his ability and his style.  He was a straight up professional who needed a straight up professional recruitment specialist in the mould of a 'Rigg' perhaps.   He wasn't the malleable type who could be manipulated as the Khans are no doubt used to and would prefer.   Like CK such types are so reliable until they are not.

With such a shambles it really doesn't matter where FFC are because that outfit is going to make a dog's dinner out of anything and everything.


Perfect analysis.
Its not the man in the fight, it's the fight in the man.  🐘

Never forget your Roots.

Camel Club

I thought we went up at the perfect time. If we had been promoted the previous season, when Reading beat us in the playoffs, I think it would have been too early and we'd have come straight back down.

That's why this season has been so especially disappointing. The club should have been in a similar position to Wolves but instead we find ourselves looking at almost certain relegation because the lessons of the past have not been learned.


Woolly Mammoth

Quote from: Camel Club on February 07, 2019, 01:41:05 PM
I thought we went up at the perfect time. If we had been promoted the previous season, when Reading beat us in the playoffs, I think it would have been too early and we'd have come straight back down.

That's why this season has been so especially disappointing. The club should have been in a similar position to Wolves but instead we find ourselves looking at almost certain relegation because the lessons of the past have not been learned.

I feel a lack of foresight and vision has had a lot to do with it unfortunately.
Its not the man in the fight, it's the fight in the man.  🐘

Never forget your Roots.

filham

Not at all, one of our good managers from the past, like Tigana, Roy, McDonald or Alec Stock given a free hand and £100million to spend on players of his choice would have worked wonders with the remains of that Wembley squad.

The timing was ok just the management that was adrift.

In the Enclosure

We were over committed with the big picture trying to buy Wembley after the play off finals, looking at the riverside development. Then thought that throwing big money at the playing side would solve it late in the day. Players and manager seemed to be given the summer off instead of working like hell from May to build and drill a new defence.


Statto

Quote from: In the Enclosure on February 07, 2019, 09:54:54 PM
Players and manager seemed to be given the summer off instead of working like hell from May to build and drill a new defence.


Very true. For all TK's tweets about working hard just after Christmas, the real work should have been done in May/early June as you say. Instead i can still recall all those photos of him in Las Vegas with the lads.

Riversider

Quote from: Statto on February 07, 2019, 10:17:14 PM
Quote from: In the Enclosure on February 07, 2019, 09:54:54 PM
Players and manager seemed to be given the summer off instead of working like hell from May to build and drill a new defence.


Very true. For all TK's tweets about working hard just after Christmas, the real work should have been done in May/early June as you say. Instead i can still recall all those photos of him in Las Vegas with the lads.

Good grief what utter nonsense !
How many games did we play last season, 45 ? 46? More ?
And you are suggesting that they should have had no break and go straight in to pre season ! FFS

The Rational Fan

#28
Quote from: Riversider on February 07, 2019, 10:22:07 PM
Quote from: Statto on February 07, 2019, 10:17:14 PM
Quote from: In the Enclosure on February 07, 2019, 09:54:54 PM
Players and manager seemed to be given the summer off instead of working like hell from May to build and drill a new defence.


Very true. For all TK's tweets about working hard just after Christmas, the real work should have been done in May/early June as you say. Instead i can still recall all those photos of him in Las Vegas with the lads.

Good grief what utter nonsense !
How many games did we play last season, 45 ? 46? More ?
And you are suggesting that they should have had no break and go straight in to pre season ! FFS

Players should have trained harder in May, except of course those that may have trained too hard in May and got injuried during the season (including Betts, TFM, Fossey, Bryan, Mawson, Ream, McDonald, Anguissa, Cairney, Schullre, Ryan Sessegnon, Atiye and Kebano).

If only Rico, Odoi, MLM, Chambers, Seri and Mitro trained harder in May, things would be different.  049:gif


Statto

#29
Quote from: Riversider on February 07, 2019, 10:22:07 PM
Quote from: Statto on February 07, 2019, 10:17:14 PM
Quote from: In the Enclosure on February 07, 2019, 09:54:54 PM
Players and manager seemed to be given the summer off instead of working like hell from May to build and drill a new defence.


Very true. For all TK's tweets about working hard just after Christmas, the real work should have been done in May/early June as you say. Instead i can still recall all those photos of him in Las Vegas with the lads.

Good grief what utter nonsense !
How many games did we play last season, 45 ? 46? More ?
And you are suggesting that they should have had no break and go straight in to pre season ! FFS


If anyone wanted to impersonate you on here Riversider, it would be bloody easy. All your posts consist of the same 3 ingredients:
(1) fundamental misunderstanding of the post you're replying to
(2) exclamation marks
(3) expletives and/or insults

To illustrate what I mean, here is an example of (2) and (3):

"Not quite mate!!!!! I'm talking about Tony Khan! Not the players. Are you suggesting Tony Khan played 46 games last season??!?!? Good grief what utter nonsense FFS!!!!!"

The Rational Fan

Tony Khans gets scouting reports, here is a comedy scouting report on Pele. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4fzeK3SQa4

SP

Definitely not too early.  Can't stomach the thought of Terry & Grealish holding hands as they skip over the hallowed turf with the trophy.