this season

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It is down to expectations. Fans who think this is the worst season for ages forget that we had Felix in charge not that long ago. I would put that as recent contender. But we were in the Prem for one season and blew it because of mistakes by everybody. Yes the Son was at fault and made many errors in signings. But the worst thing about the season is that there wasn't anybody free of blame.

However the redeeming fact is we at least were in the best league in the World for one season.  We didn't like it and no doubt will feel less eager to make it back there too soon.

I have to disagree. first felix was hopeless and that season a shambles but intellectually one thought of it it as mega niavety of brand new owners.
But in management usually there is one overiding reason things go quite so spectaculalry wrong and we all know it was sonny boy fault. he assembeled an expensive but essentially third rate, lazy and injured squad far too late. He pulled the rug from under the manager and managed to totally demoralise the whole place. we all saw it it and we all knew that many were blameless in the grand scheme of things. maybe the manager, slav, could have done better earlier but in reality that squad was devisive, read what ream has said more than once.

To defend the culprit does us no favours and I am sure that in the vast majority of fans hearts they know if TK remains anywhere near team matters  next season and beyond, we are in for a very unpleasant ride. he simply does not learn from previous errors or listen to his very many betters.

what makes this season so bad, and worse than any other was the futility of what happened. every other season we were either broke or there was a major negative and unforseable reason for failure. this time it was just rank bad management by amateurs.

I like that you "speak your mind" and articulate what most fans are thinking, but disagree with everything highlighted in bold.

Firstly, you say there "one overiding reason things go quite so spectaculalry wrong", I completely disagree because to "blame one area" is to imply other areas are blameless. Recruitment maybe the reason we are relegated, but it is not the reason we lost to Cardiff and Huddersfield, plus it is not the reason last years players didn't play well.  Every area needs to take a look at themselves not just the DoF and managers, but also training coaches and players.

Secondly, you say "he pulled the rug from under the manager", which is true but after the Huddersfield Game most fans wanted Slavisa sacked (even if the Liverpool game changed most of our fans mind again). I would point out that Tony Khan was already really getting blamed at that point for his recruitment by Slavisa Fans. It seems Raneri after observing this squad for 12 games, thought that the recruitment was good enough to stay up. SK did what any sane person would do sack the person that said the squad is rubbish, and hire Raneri that thought he could keep the team up.

Thirdly, you say "many were blameless in the grand scheme of things", but apart from the tea lady who is blameless this season. Who at this club has improved their performance since last season? Anyone that thinks they are blameless are part of the problem.

Fourthly, you say "To defend the culprit does us no favours", but sometimes defending the culprit does help. Our four most inexperienced people at the club in their position are Tony Khan as DoF, Ryan Sessegnon as EPL player, Scott Parker as manager and Slavisa Jokanvoivc as EPL manager. I think it makes a lot of sense defending the culprit, if we think the culprit will learn from their mistakes, because blaming people destroys their confidence. I don't see the point in blaming TK, if he's isn't going to get sacked by his father and will be doing our recruitment going foward.

Fifth, you state "he [TK] simply does not learn from previous errors or listen to his very many betters" and you could be correct, but his father obviously doesn't think this is true and an owner backing the DoF with money for player wages is the biggest statistically determinate of success (around a 92% correlation in the premier league between wages and success). That is to say, success is mostly determined more "by the owner believing in the DoF" than the "DoF actually being brilliant". SK belief in the DoF is critical.

Lastly, you infer things wouldn't be so bad "if we were broke", I think being broke is much worse. The truth is apart from Left Back (with Bryan and MLM) this team had two international players in every position, and will still have more than 11 internationals next year.

Next Season, we can do great things, but we need to get away from a "blame culture" and into a "team culture". We have the players we have and we should just do the best we can with them. Norwich, Leeds and Sheffield United have done better this season, with squads much weaker than ours, if we can get our players to their level of fitness and team workout, no reason why we cannot be as good.

Tony Khan gave us a Championship XI capable of promotion in 16/17, Tony Khan spent another 100m and we will have Championship Squad of 18 capable of automatic promotion in 19/20. Things could be worse, a lot worse.

I am flattered you think it worth phorensically go through my comments. I am amazed you feel i am worth it, and i thank you so much for it.

I am so sorry i cannot reciprocate in kind but do feel you seem to be defending  TKband in book that is unforgiveable.

Worse yet you infer khan gave as top notch squads in  the previous two seasons and that is patenttly fantasy. Slav made a silk purse out of a sows ear. We had barely enough players to hold the seasons together, slava's outburst through all that time were proof of that , i am sure you remember.  I am very glad you think your good friend tony will give us a top notch squad of 18 next season, i have no such faith. This season we had no full backs worthy of the name, not a fit center half, a proper forward line, a captain, what makes ypu think your mate that managed to squander £100m can mend his second rate ways. Will we get full backs?or afit center half, we will lose the underwhelming squad that he purchased and loaned. I think history suggests he will not, things are dreadful and he will more likely lead us to league one. I am the one, purely based on the evidenc, that is the rational fan.

[Twig]

It is down to expectations. Fans who think this is the worst season for ages forget that we had Felix in charge not that long ago. I would put that as recent contender. But we were in the Prem for one season and blew it because of mistakes by everybody. Yes the Son was at fault and made many errors in signings. But the worst thing about the season is that there wasn't anybody free of blame.

However the redeeming fact is we at least were in the best league in the World for one season.  We didn't like it and no doubt will feel less eager to make it back there too soon.

I have to disagree. first felix was hopeless and that season a shambles but intellectually one thought of it it as mega niavety of brand new owners.
But in management usually there is one overiding reason things go quite so spectaculalry wrong and we all know it was sonny boy fault. he assembeled an expensive but essentially third rate, lazy and injured squad far too late. He pulled the rug from under the manager and managed to totally demoralise the whole place. we all saw it it and we all knew that many were blameless in the grand scheme of things. maybe the manager, slav, could have done better earlier but in reality that squad was devisive, read what ream has said more than once.

To defend the culprit does us no favours and I am sure that in the vast majority of fans hearts they know if TK remains anywhere near team matters  next season and beyond, we are in for a very unpleasant ride. he simply does not learn from previous errors or listen to his very many betters.

what makes this season so bad, and worse than any other was the futility of what happened. every other season we were either broke or there was a major negative and unforseable reason for failure. this time it was just rank bad management by amateurs.

I like that you "speak your mind" and articulate what most fans are thinking, but disagree with everything highlighted in bold.

Firstly, you say there "one overiding reason things go quite so spectaculalry wrong", I completely disagree because to "blame one area" is to imply other areas are blameless. Recruitment maybe the reason we are relegated, but it is not the reason we lost to Cardiff and Huddersfield, plus it is not the reason last years players didn't play well.  Every area needs to take a look at themselves not just the DoF and managers, but also training coaches and players.

Secondly, you say "he pulled the rug from under the manager", which is true but after the Huddersfield Game most fans wanted Slavisa sacked (even if the Liverpool game changed most of our fans mind again). I would point out that Tony Khan was already really getting blamed at that point for his recruitment by Slavisa Fans. It seems Raneri after observing this squad for 12 games, thought that the recruitment was good enough to stay up. SK did what any sane person would do sack the person that said the squad is rubbish, and hire Raneri that thought he could keep the team up.

Thirdly, you say "many were blameless in the grand scheme of things", but apart from the tea lady who is blameless this season. Who at this club has improved their performance since last season? Anyone that thinks they are blameless are part of the problem.

Fourthly, you say "To defend the culprit does us no favours", but sometimes defending the culprit does help. Our four most inexperienced people at the club in their position are Tony Khan as DoF, Ryan Sessegnon as EPL player, Scott Parker as manager and Slavisa Jokanvoivc as EPL manager. I think it makes a lot of sense defending the culprit, if we think the culprit will learn from their mistakes, because blaming people destroys their confidence. I don't see the point in blaming TK, if he's isn't going to get sacked by his father and will be doing our recruitment going foward.

Fifth, you state "he [TK] simply does not learn from previous errors or listen to his very many betters" and you could be correct, but his father obviously doesn't think this is true and an owner backing the DoF with money for player wages is the biggest statistically determinate of success (around a 92% correlation in the premier league between wages and success). That is to say, success is mostly determined more "by the owner believing in the DoF" than the "DoF actually being brilliant". SK belief in the DoF is critical.

Lastly, you infer things wouldn't be so bad "if we were broke", I think being broke is much worse. The truth is apart from Left Back (with Bryan and MLM) this team had two international players in every position, and will still have more than 11 internationals next year.

Next Season, we can do great things, but we need to get away from a "blame culture" and into a "team culture". We have the players we have and we should just do the best we can with them. Norwich, Leeds and Sheffield United have done better this season, with squads much weaker than ours, if we can get our players to their level of fitness and team workout, no reason why we cannot be as good.

Tony Khan gave us a Championship XI capable of promotion in 16/17, Tony Khan spent another 100m and we will have Championship Squad of 18 capable of automatic promotion in 19/20. Things could be worse, a lot worse.

I couldn't care less that TK is inexperienced but I do care a lot that he is unqualified. The others; Ryan, Scott and SJ are at least highly qualified if inexperienced and I am fine with them.  To include TK in this list is appalling obfuscation.  I know you are a TK apologist but frankly this is an insult to some fine footballing people.