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Bryan comment sums it up for me ....

Started by howitis, August 05, 2019, 10:00:04 PM

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Jim©

Quote from: AnotherVicHalomLoveChild on August 05, 2019, 11:01:27 PM

No where near good enough, no where trying hard enough, no pride, no effort, no where even near good enough to complete 90 minutes
Forget "not even turning up" a truly disgraceful pathetic performance that any decent, honourable player would have dnated their wages on the day to charity



I think that wins the post with the most hyperbole/ overreaction/ panic that I've seen yet.
OK, so we weren't great, but we created chances that we should have put away. Barnsley were feisty, in our faces (and didn't lose at home for a whole season) and I think the wake up call he refers to is the difference playing against teams that will fly in like that compared to a team that will dissect you as per Man City.

Andy S

Strange that the only goal we conceded was down to Bryan yet he should criticise others...

MJG

Quote from: Andy S on August 06, 2019, 11:21:12 AM
Strange that the only goal we conceded was down to Bryan yet he should criticise others...
You mean from apart from a rash jump by MLM, Mawson not going to the man and Betts not keeping his legs shut
Just the views of a long term fan


Whitesideup

Quote from: Skatzoffc on August 06, 2019, 08:37:40 AM
I find it extraordinary that people are having a go at Jo Bryan. He's the only player with the Cajones to stand up and say the team performance was shameful and he gets lambasted on here for stating exactly what all on this message board have been saying since the game finished.

Talk about shooting the messenger.
The mind boggles.

I agree. What was Jo supposed to say? By the sound of it, there were few excuses to be made, so a confession that the team need to be more determined and more focussed (that's how I read his comment) is in fact totally appropriate.

This division is tough. All three relegated teams lost. It just shows. Superior skill (well, that may not apply to Cardiff) and better players can win you games, but firstly you have to win the battle. I haven't been able to watch the game yet (see separate thread on FFCTV !!!) but it sounds simply as if we weren't up for it. Personally I am finding this hard to believe and want to watch it to see for myself. Also, maybe, just maybe, Barnsley deserve a bit of credit themselves? We always focus on ourselves, but what were the oppo like?

Dr Quinzel

Quote from: Andy S on August 06, 2019, 11:21:12 AM
Strange that the only goal we conceded was down to Bryan yet he should criticise others...

Yet he was still our best defender by some way on the day.

FFC1987

Quote from: MJG on August 06, 2019, 11:52:53 AM
Quote from: Andy S on August 06, 2019, 11:21:12 AM
Strange that the only goal we conceded was down to Bryan yet he should criticise others...
You mean from apart from a rash jump by MLM, Mawson not going to the man and Betts not keeping his legs shut

Having watched it quite a few times, I don't think Betts was at fault here. He has to spread himself big here. that's not to say he had a good game, just I wouldn't blame him. MLM was pathetic, and Bryan was out muscled, there were a lot of errors for that goal but Bryan was also at fault. 


MJG

Quote from: FFC1987 on August 06, 2019, 12:12:47 PM
Quote from: MJG on August 06, 2019, 11:52:53 AM
Quote from: Andy S on August 06, 2019, 11:21:12 AM
Strange that the only goal we conceded was down to Bryan yet he should criticise others...
You mean from apart from a rash jump by MLM, Mawson not going to the man and Betts not keeping his legs shut

Having watched it quite a few times, I don't think Betts was at fault here. He has to spread himself big here. that's not to say he had a good game, just I wouldn't blame him. MLM was pathetic, and Bryan was out muscled, there were a lot of errors for that goal but Bryan was also at fault.
Of course he was, but he's not alone in the whole segment of play
Just the views of a long term fan

FFC1987

Quote from: MJG on August 06, 2019, 12:16:52 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 06, 2019, 12:12:47 PM
Quote from: MJG on August 06, 2019, 11:52:53 AM
Quote from: Andy S on August 06, 2019, 11:21:12 AM
Strange that the only goal we conceded was down to Bryan yet he should criticise others...
You mean from apart from a rash jump by MLM, Mawson not going to the man and Betts not keeping his legs shut

Having watched it quite a few times, I don't think Betts was at fault here. He has to spread himself big here. that's not to say he had a good game, just I wouldn't blame him. MLM was pathetic, and Bryan was out muscled, there were a lot of errors for that goal but Bryan was also at fault.
Of course he was, but he's not alone in the whole segment of play

No arguments there. regarding Betts role, maybe he was a bit at fault, didn't he lose the ball with poor distribution or am I misremembering?

MJG

Quote from: FFC1987 on August 06, 2019, 12:18:30 PM
Quote from: MJG on August 06, 2019, 12:16:52 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 06, 2019, 12:12:47 PM
Quote from: MJG on August 06, 2019, 11:52:53 AM
Quote from: Andy S on August 06, 2019, 11:21:12 AM
Strange that the only goal we conceded was down to Bryan yet he should criticise others...
You mean from apart from a rash jump by MLM, Mawson not going to the man and Betts not keeping his legs shut

Having watched it quite a few times, I don't think Betts was at fault here. He has to spread himself big here. that's not to say he had a good game, just I wouldn't blame him. MLM was pathetic, and Bryan was out muscled, there were a lot of errors for that goal but Bryan was also at fault.
Of course he was, but he's not alone in the whole segment of play

No arguments there. regarding Betts role, maybe he was a bit at fault, didn't he lose the ball with poor distribution or am I misremembering?
Was a goal kick that was then headed by a couple of players and then MLM went full on at it and went over the top of the player.
Just the views of a long term fan


Jim©

Quote from: MJG on August 06, 2019, 12:35:34 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 06, 2019, 12:18:30 PM
Quote from: MJG on August 06, 2019, 12:16:52 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 06, 2019, 12:12:47 PM
Quote from: MJG on August 06, 2019, 11:52:53 AM
Quote from: Andy S on August 06, 2019, 11:21:12 AM
Strange that the only goal we conceded was down to Bryan yet he should criticise others...
You mean from apart from a rash jump by MLM, Mawson not going to the man and Betts not keeping his legs shut

Having watched it quite a few times, I don't think Betts was at fault here. He has to spread himself big here. that's not to say he had a good game, just I wouldn't blame him. MLM was pathetic, and Bryan was out muscled, there were a lot of errors for that goal but Bryan was also at fault.
Of course he was, but he's not alone in the whole segment of play

No arguments there. regarding Betts role, maybe he was a bit at fault, didn't he lose the ball with poor distribution or am I misremembering?
Was a goal kick that was then headed by a couple of players and then MLM went full on at it and went over the top of the player.

I do also find it odd that no one at all thought it was a foul by Woodrow on MLM. He backed in without any seeming intention to jump and took MLM out. About 3 or 4 of the same thing was given against Mitro on the very same day.

toshes mate

I didn't think Bryan was anything to shout about over the ninety minutes and neither flank produced pressure on Barnsley from good old fashioned possession and passing of the football.  We didn't ever run the game and play it our way.   We were way too predictable at times too except for Kamara who did try a few different tricks one of which should have resulted in an easy goal for Mitro.

As for the Woodrow v MLM incident/challenge I thought it was a foul all day long.  Woodrow clearly first obstructs and then ducks away from MLM's midair flight causing to latter to fall awkwardly and injure his back.  In the good old days that was always given as dangerous play.